9th Circuit Reaffirms Dukes Class Action Status

...could exclude between 75,000 and 250,000 former employees...

A drop in the bucket.

Ken V in Texas: Perhaps these women who have been recently excluded could file a different action-if the time of prescription doesn’t prohibit it.

Does anyone believe these women in or now out of the lawsuit really understand this class action?  I doubt it and I believe down the road more will be excluded and I also believe this suit will be dismissed at some level or at a minimum a great portion of the pleadings will be changed.

After all remember it has not even came to the trial stage and I doubt if any jury could comprehend it.  I have read most (almost all) of the orginal pleading and it would be very difficult to prosecute and defend so that a jury could intelligently decide.

Time will play it out.  My prediction is that it will be greatly reduced or dismissed.

Time will play it out.

Win, lose, or draw, the meter is running and the Beast is bleeding.

“If you care about a local economy, you will hate Wal-Mart,” ~ Rosemary Atkinson

FY2007 Net Income of 11.2B..... Yep, their bleeding alright

Ken V in Texas: Do you really believe that there is ANY possibility of the” hundreth monkey “ re: WalMart??

hey ken and ddrb how about the monkeys at target,costco,k-mart,kohls and etc?

FY2007 Net Income of 11.2B.....

Imagine what it would have been without all the legal expenses and should they lose Dukes, or a host of other suits,...well, I’ll let the Bentonvilliams themselves tell you:

“The Company (Wal-Mart) is involved in a number of legal proceedings, including antitrust, consumer, employment, tort, and other litigation. The lawsuits discussed below, which are among the matters pending against the Company, if decided adversely, may result in liability material to the Company’s consolidated financial statements.” ~ Wal-Mart Annual Report

Bleeding, indeed.

“My prediction is that it will be greatly reduced or dismissed.” ~The Sage

This, from the same person who predicts Ron Paul will be the next president of the U.S.

Screwedby,

There is a difference between saying who you would LIKE to see be the next president and who WILL be the next president!!  But, I guess that people like you, can’t tell the difference, because you are so used to twisting things out of proportion!!

“twisting things out of proportion!!” ~RDS

No...this would be your field of “expertise” RDS.

I’m a realist.  You, on the other hand, are back-peddling already, just to save face and cover your bets.  You’re a big Ron Paul supporter and “card carrying” self-proclaimed Libertarian like The Sage, aren’t you?  If Ron Paul was leading the race, you’d be the first person to spout off and say, “I told you so.”

OK, while we’re at it, who does Mr. Screwed support?

Screwedby : May I share my premonition? The next,impending incarnation on RDS’s personality parade will be...Tah Dah....Mr. Twister!

mv: The” hundreth monkey” is not really about monkeys.

Screwed by --
1- I never did “predict” that Dr. Ron Paul would be the next president of the US. Yes I do support him and RDS was correct in that he stated I was supporting Dr. Paul

2.  I still predict this lawsuit will be dismissed or greatly changed in some fashion.  Yes, time will tell.

3.  You accused me of being a member of the Liberterian Party and once again I will tell you that you are a liar in this regard (and I told you this in many other posts that you chose to ignore).  I am a member of the CONSTITUTION PARTY and have been for years.  Whether RDS is a member of the Libertarian Party or not, I have no knowledge, that is his choice as well as anyone to belong to the party of “their” choice.

You were asked a question as to whom you support for President, would you care to answer or not?  I would be curious or do you fear many might criticize you for your choice as you have elected to do to the Sage!

anyone but george bush in th white house would be great.

mv; Matt, there’s hope for you yet! Finally,something we can agree on!!

Make sure you throw Hillary on that list as well.

Mary in : I couldn’t agree with you more-I still don’t trust her ties to WalMart!

WOW! Some “Sage” You Are

<i>"greatly changed in some fashion."</b>

That’s real precise of you.  Maybe I’ll become a “Sage” too, and become a meteorologist!  The weather tomorrow will be greatly changed in some fashion. It may, or it may not be sunny, and if it’s not dry, there may, or may not be some type of precipitation.

dd, matt, and mary, I’m glad to see you kids getting along.

COST OF WAR

hillary dont thrill me either.universal health care?thats a train wreck waiting to happen.how can anyone tell me that the govt can afford to and has the money to pay every americans medical and dental bills?i dont see it.

Unlike YOU, matt!

“a train wreck waiting to happen.”

Unlike yourself, huh matt?  You’re a train wreck that’s already happened!

Can You Hear Us Now, Matt?

“can anyone tell me that the govt can afford to and has the money to pay every americans medical and dental bills?”

Apparently you didn’t take the time yet to check out Ken’s link on the cost of the war.

Sage-

Where is the hundred dollars you owe for the bet you lost? I noticed you weaseled out for a couple of weeks after you lost the bet on the facts about Ron Paul wanting to legalize currently illegal narcotics. Do we have to bring back the dialogue and all of the Ron Paul quotes and post them here again for you to man up? I told you that you could donate it to the fund for Shank. Did you? I already know you are not a person of your word, perhaps now is the time for you to stop being a fraud. After all we now have vantress to sing and dance the WalMart tunes with his lies.

what have i lied about sdv?a i asked you that and you refused to answer me and like a typical liberal and wm hater you ran and hid and could not give me a straight answer.you are a bald face liar sdv.you still cant answer me why there are so many more grocery workers in ufcw union grocers on food stamps and govt assistance than at wm.whats wrong the truth hurt?is that why you run and hide so much and are afraid to be honest?you area real fraud sdv.

Matthew you never give any source for your claims! When are you going to provide evidence to support your statements? SDV usually gives a documented resource and has strong credentials in researching his stuff. You never do and just make wild statements and claims!

Your questions Matthew were answered many times before but you seem to think that every article or university study is a lie. Are you stupid or just paranoid? Where is your proof that all these union people are on govt assistance? Everyone knows that Walmart leads the country in welfare abuse for the employees they have. That is documented many times over for many years and why don’t you accept proven documented facts and provide none of your own? Where is your proof that all these university studies and state government accountings and reports and newspaper articles and online information are all lies?

Truth is, you are the one who lies and never answers real questions or cites any sources!

richard govt resources and state lie all the time and are never accurate.are you stupid enough to believe richard that the govt is always honest with you and never lies?full of bs richard the govt is brainwashing you big time and so is the ufcw union.i worked in union grocery richard unlike you and retail as well and know what the hell i am talking about.my sister in law works for the state of oregon and handles paperwork for govt assistance and food stamps and guess what the highest level of workers on food stamps and welfare in oregon is union grocery workers and other cheap places like fast food joints.walmart is not even close to the top according to the paperwork that my sister in law showed me and wm is at the very bottom and has few on welfare.its not even close to the level richard that you are led to believe by the full of crap govt and ufcw union.i dont need to put proof on here i have already seen it with my own eyes.i could care less if you believe me or not.i saw richard when i worked in union grocery workers filling out food stamp and welfare paperwork in the breakroom.i dont accept anything the govt says as truth.why should i?the govt bald face lies all the time about their budgets.they only tell you the general fund numbers not the all funds numbers which are always significantly higher.that tells you right there why you should never believe anything the govt says or any of their stats especially when they cant be honest with you about what they really have for money.got that richard?richard you have no clue how union grocery operates and how badly they mistreat their workers.i work now with a former high level manager in the union grocery kroger chain and he confirmed evertything i have ever said on here is 110&#xac;curate.governments lie all the time richard wake up.

...my sister in law...

Oh, well then, that’s different.

Well he said his sis-in-law works for the government and he also said the government lies about everything.  Also interesting is that Oregon is one state that doesn’t even track this info yet.  So therefore, Matt is the one that is “bald face lying”....lol!

SDV --- again you are twisting the exact post and its challenge to you.  You do this all of this time Please go back to the orginal post of Tuesday, November 27, at 04:58 pm and re-read it again in entirety and then again post on here.
(as you know it was on a different thread)

really sucks?sorry my sis in law is honest and very truthful and a wonderful person.you need to go to www.supermarketswindle.com and then come back on here and tell me how stupid,dumb and misinformed and how bald face lying i am.the govt sucks lies all the time its a fact and they distort their facts if they dont like something to manipulate the public and people like yourself.

hey richard www.supermarketswindle.com.look at it and then come back on here and tell me how stupid i am.

Richard,

“Everyone knows that Walmart leads the country in welfare abuse for the employees they have.”

It may be true, that Wal-Mart’s employees on welfare, may exceed other retail companies, but, it is also true, that no other retail company even comes close in number of employees.  The falsehood in your statement, is in claiming that “Wal-Mart leads the country in welfare abuse”, this infers that Wal-Mart has come required obligation to provide benefits that are being shifted to the countries welfare systems, SINCE THEY HAVE NO SUCH OBLIGATION TO DO SO, therefore, they cannot be accused of shifting anything.  Example, I cannot accuse you of failing to cut your neighbors lawn, if you have no responsibility to keep it cut, using the theory that they are your neighbor.  Just because someone is an employee of a company, doesn’t mean the company is responsible for everything that employee does, including taking advantage of the countries welfare programs.

SINCE THEY HAVE NO SUCH OBLIGATION TO DO SO

My knowledge of the US Consitution is a little rusty, Tommy, so perhaps you can refer me to the article that makes it the government’s responsibility to provide business with a cheap healthy workforce?

If you work in Wal-Mart you are exposed to every communicable disease known to man. The millions of ‘visitors’ are sneezing and coughing and otherwise depositing germs all over the place.

When you get sick, whose ‘responsibility’ is it?

Ken V in Texas: I’m probably rustier than anyone on constitutional mandates or obligations,but, which article refers to government’s responsibilty to provide corporate welfare to WalMart?

Sage-

Running out on the truth again, no doubt embarrassed by the proofs that came back to shame you-

“Another bet if you want to make it—show me one quote of Dr. Ron Paul (running for president) that states what you quoted “Ron Paul wants to legalize currently illegal narcotics to the U.S. population”.”

“Back up what you post. I will thank you in advance if you will or can.’
Sage

“Paul wants to legalize the sale of narcotics, contending that prohibition of drugs is ineffective. “Prohibition doesn’t work. Prohibition causes crime.” He believes that drug abuse should be treated as a medical problem, “We treat alcoholism now as a medical problem and I, as a physician, think we should treat drug addiction as a medical problem and not as a crime.” The Constitution does not enumerate or delegate to Congress the authority to ban or regulate drugs in general.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
Make American more Christian. Get high with Dr. Ron Paul and ‘Sage’. Lawlessness, Libertarian and lost.

“Now for once please, please explain how I have been found to be a fraud (even by you). Give me one example. I will make a bet with you, if you can I will donate $l00.00 to WMW...”
Sage

Pay up.

SanDiegoView in Ron Paul wants to legalize narcotics
Wednesday, November 28 at 04:31 AM

“Prove what I orginally posted and I will pay up. Actually I think you should pay up for you didn’t answer the main point in my post. How did you ever learn in school how not to answer something, then twist it. “Shall we all do the Twist””
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:22 AM

Hey ‘Sage’, where is the hundred you owe?

The Case for Drug Legalization
by Ron Paul, MD
www.totse.com/en/drugs/legal_issues_of_drug_use/ron_paul.html

“Urban street crime, which terrorizes millions of Americans, is largely the creation of the U.S. drug laws. That alone is reason enough for legalization.”
Dr. Ron Paul

“Another bet if you want to make it—show me one quote of Dr. Ron Paul (running for president) that states what you quoted “Ron Paul wants to legalize currently illegal narcotics to the U.S. population”.”

“Back up what you post. I will thank you in advance if you will or can.”

The Sage in
Tuesday, November 27 at 04:58 PM

“Now for once please, please explain how I have been found to be a fraud (even by you). Give me one example. I will make a bet with you, if you can I will donate $l00.00 to WMW...”
Sage

“SDV (11/28 4:21AM) Again you do a spin on the subject. Wikipedia does not quote exactly what Ron Paul says in its entirety. This is what a poster wrote on their. Go to his library and read exactly then you “might” comprehend.”
“You have once again proved SDV that you are the fraudelent character as you only answer that which you want and give it an excellent spin to fit into your perception.”
“Prove what I orginally posted and I will pay up.’
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:22 AM

Does being a Panamanian swamp weasel also make you a little welcher ‘Sage’?

From Romans 13: 13-14
13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Let us make provision for getting America loaded with Ron Paul. After all it was “Dr.” Timothy Leary as another earlier Libertarian clown.

“Good laws have their origins in bad morals.”
Ambrosius Macrobius

SanDiegoView in ‘Sage’ owes WMW a C note
Friday, November 30 at 06:01 AM

You were given the quotes from Ron Paul himself and then you ran and hid for 2 weeks -

The Case for Drug Legalization
by Ron Paul, MD
www.totse.com/en/drugs/legal_issues_of_drug_use/ron_paul.html

“Urban street crime, which terrorizes millions of Americans, is largely the creation of the U.S. drug laws. That alone is reason enough for legalization.”
Dr. Ron Paul

Pay up Sage. Or run out again like the little welsher and fraud you are.

Ken,

I checked out the Constitution myself and could find NOWHERE, where it says that an employer is responsible for their workers health insurance.  As for the government being responsible for the citizens healthcare, they did that long before Wal-Mart started, when they created government sponcered WELFARE.  If they didn’t want to be responsible, they should never have passed the laws mandating them to do it.  If you don’t like it, I suggest you have them change the laws and stop saying it’s Wal-Mart’s responsibility, IT"S NOT.

its companies own decision whether to offer benefits or not.

DAMN, “Tommy”!  Get Current!

If we have to keep reading your tripe, would you at least get current.  “The Constitution,” what it “says” and what it “doesn’t say,” was beat to death with a club over a year ago on this blog.

hey richard www.supermarketswindle.com.look at it and then come back on here and tell me how stupid i am.

Amazing, Mr. Greenwald is now pouncing on “big grocery” - thanks, Matthew.

What does this mean for our very own Mr. Screwed?  Will we see him roaming the Kroger parking lots, next?

God, I hope not.

Don’t the grocery stores have to be competitive with Wal-Mart?  NO – Wal-Mart has a tiny 1% of the Southern California grocery market.~Robert Greenwald

So, what’s the big deal, SanDiegoView????????

“It may be true, that Wal-Mart’s employees on welfare, may exceed other retail companies, but, it is also true, that no other retail company even comes close in number of employees”

Tommy, actually in many of the states that track this info Walmart isn’t the biggest employer but still has more employees on welfare.  And in states like Washington where there are just as many Safeway employees you will see Walmart has twice as many employees on public assistance.

I looked at the Supermarket Swindle site and 20,000 children of the grocery workers in Southern California being without healthcare is somewhat impressive.  But once you see more Walmarts infest that area you will likely see that number multiply quite a few times over.  One need only look to the state of California as a whole to see the writing on the wall.

To quote facts from Robert Greenwald’s other documentary.

“In 2004, a study released the UC Berkeley Labor Center found that “reliance by Wal-Mart workers on public assistance programs in California comes at a cost to taxpayers of an estimated $86 million annually; this is comprised of $32 million in health related expenses and $54 million in other assistance.”

corgi 20,000 without health insurance that is impressive which should encourage you folks not to buy one word of the propaganda that the ufcw union sells you on wm.hell they cant even get decent benefits for workers and their kids when at the same time they bitch about walmarts benefits.corgi what you dont get is walmart dont dictate to union grocers by moving into their area what the union grocers pay their workers and what benefits they get.that is solely the union grocers decision not wms.the people on food stamps and welfare at union grocers is the fault of the union grocers and the ufcw union for not paying and fighting for living wages and benefits not walmart.no one forces walmart employees to stay there corgi.obviously most of them are very happy with wages and benefits otherwise they would have quit a long time ago and found or at least made a thorough effort to find a better job thats what you wm haters fail to understand.govt stat scorgi lie all the time.the last person in the world i will believe on anything is the govt.

So let me get this straight?  Robert Greenwald’s stats are correct in the supermarketswindle doc, but according to you he is lying in his other film about Walmart?  Jeez, you are so damn narrow minded.  Believe it or not, I know it’s a hard pill for you to swallow, but there are more WM employees on welfare in the state of California.

You can cherry pick the info all you want and even go county by county if you want WM to come out smelling like a rose.  Sure, the stats will be in their favor when you look at areas where they are only 1% of the competition...lol!

And yes, it is a sad state of affairs when only 53% of those Union grocery employees in southern California have health insurance.  But even sadder is that is still a bigger percentage than the amount of WM employees that have healthcare.  Which according to Walmart’s own website is 46%.

You’re doing excellent research, Corgishepmom. ^5!