A Company In Need Of Change
This article originally appeared on the Huffington Post.
Wal-Mart’s dirty laundry is getting more global exposure today just a week after the Debbie Shank story. It has not been a good month for Wal-Mart public relations. To use a sports term, these are turnovers, and they expose the weaknesses of Wal-Mart’s high priced image.
When Wal-Mart Watch started we promised to tell a new more truthful story about the company. In doing so, we have often been critical of Wal-Mart but we have also been willing to applaud when they took steps in the right direction.
Undeniably, over the past three years Wal-Mart has gotten better at hiding the truth from us and from the media usually by obfuscating rather than clarifying the real issues. Their so-called health care reform is just one example. And thanks to the millions they are spending on Edelman Public Relations, they have received some good coverage in the media.
Occasionally though, they fumble the ball and we get to see clearly what is behind the façade. The video of Wal-Mart managers dressed in drag aired on NBC Nightly News last night (April 9, 2008) is a great example.
From Dukes v. Wal-Mart, the largest class-action employment discrimination case in American history, we know that at Wal-Mart, women make up only 37% of Assistant Managers, 21% of Co-Managers, and 15% of Store Managers. In 2001, those women who did become salaried Wal-Mart managers earned about $14,500 less than men per year. So it is no surprise that a gathering of Wal-Mart managers would be rife with sexist undertones.
Wal-Mart might suggest that the performances featured in the footage from this 1995 meeting intended to be funny, but either they value women or they do not and discriminating against women is no joking matter.
http://action.walmartwatch.com/DoAsWeSay
Debbie Shank is another good example of why public relations is not enough to fix Wal-Mart’s fundamental problems. Every day Wal-Mart refuses to put enough money forward to adequately fund their employees health care, and associates pay the price. Obviously Debbie Shank is a particularly tragic story but if you talk to Wal-Mart employees, as we do every day, you realize that there are many sad stories of people who have not received the medical care they need because the plan that they can afford from Wal-Mart provides minimalist coverage and the better plans are just too expensive.
At Wal-Mart Watch we work hard to encourage Wal-Mart to change its business practices because we believe it is in the best interest of its employees, its customers, its bottom line and our country. Wal-Mart has pushed back suggesting that our critiques are at best unnecessary and at worst unfair. The videos and the Debbie Shank story have exposed better than we ever could what we have been saying all along, that the leadership of Wal-Mart allows and even encourages a corporate culture of negligence and discrimination. It is not in anyone’s best interests for such a culture to continue. Wal-Mart needs to change.
Posted by David Nassar, Executive Director on Friday, April 11, 2008
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COMMENTS
Go car insurance!
Um, wait. Nevermind.
Hey, so you guys have 15,000 videos to pillage through. Good job. So if Wal-Mart is so terrible, why is the worst thing you’ve found a few people dressing up in drag? It’s childish, and it’s irrellevant to, well, anything.
Also, David, you wrote: “Wal-Mart but we have also been willing to applaud when they took steps in the right direction” and then “In 2001, those women who did become salaried Wal-Mart managers earned about $14,500 less than men per year.”
Not sure about those numbers, but even if, that was seven years ago. Do you have the guts to report on current starting pay practices for managers?
Scott in
Friday, April 11 at 11:53 PM
"Wal-Mart but we have also been willing to applaud when they took steps in the right direction”
I found that quote quite interesting too. I haven’t been looking on here all that long, but I have yet to see them applaud Walmart for anything. Even when Wlamart let the Shanks keep the money they still had nothing positive to say.
Dave in
Saturday, April 12 at 07:50 AM
You two are looking for love in all the wrong places. Go to walmart.com, turn on your TV, or read your junk mail if you want the ‘positive’ side of Wal-Mart.
Come on, Scott. Not having a contract with Flagler establishing proprietary rights of the videotapes is not only a PR blunder but a stupid business decision. In yet another demonstration of Bentonville’s willingness to spend a dollar to save a dime, their decision to only offer Flagler $500,000 for the tapes will probably come back to haunt them tenfold!
“Our size causes us, when we do something inappropriate, which is usually done out of stupidity, to come across as being done out of arrogance.” ~ H. Lee Scott
Ken V in Texas
Saturday, April 12 at 08:12 AM
Ken V,
Yeah, bad business decision, but so far WMW is forced to try to equate a few people dressing in drag 13 years ago as the root of sex discrimination. That’s grasping at straws.
I really don’t expect positive spin from this site. I was pointing out that David Nassar shouldn’t lie by saying they point out the good and the bad. WMW is an attack site, and they have a specific adjenda. They shouldn’t try to pass themselves off as fair and balanced.
So far most attacks I’ve seen fit into the mold of that quote you provided. It comes down to merely pointing out that in an organization of over a million people, there are some rotten apples and some poor communication. So what? That would be true of ANY organization.
Scott in
Saturday, April 12 at 01:27 PM
I don’t expect to find positive stories here, but they shouldn’t say that they “applaud when they took steps in the right direction” when they don’t. Some people would consider that to be lying which takes away your credibility. It does make them eligible to go into politics though so at least they have that going for them.
Dave in
Saturday, April 12 at 07:19 PM
They shouldn’t try to pass themselves off as fair and balanced.
I think you’ve confused WMW with Fox News. As pro Wal-Marters, your ability to post here is more ‘balance’ than I’d give you.
As far as applauding Wal-Mart “when they took steps in the right direction”, I seem to remember an instance or two. The problem is many of the ‘positive’ steps Wal-Mart claims to be taking are nothing more than PR fluff.
Token environmental platitudes so boastfully touted (by Wal-Mart) won’t cut it. ~ Advertising Age
Ken V in Texas
Sunday, April 13 at 04:50 AM
Ken. You said “I seem to remember an instance or two. “ That pretty well covers it.
WM has certainly done more for poor people, etc than the SEIU has. I can remember nothing that the SEIU has done to benefit anyone except themselves. If this is not true, enlighten me.
Johnston in OKC
Sunday, April 13 at 06:05 AM
Johnston in OKC: I really don’t know that much about SEIU,so I copied this from their homepage. It seems these members do a LOT for their communities:-------------------The Service Employees International Union is 1.9 million working people and 50,000 retirees united to improve services and our communities throughout North America.
SEIU members are winning better wages, health care, and more secure jobs at home, while uniting their strength with their counterparts around the world to help ensure that workers, not just corporations and CEOs, benefit from today’s global economy.
SEIU is the fastest-growing union in North America. Focused on uniting workers in three sectors to improve their lives and the services they provide, SEIU is:
» The largest health care union, with 900,000 members in the field, including nurses, LPNs, doctors, lab technicians, nursing home workers, home care workers
» The largest property services union, with 225,000 members in the building cleaning and security industries, including janitors, door men and women
» The second largest public services union, with 850,000 local and state government workers, public school employees, bus drivers, and child care providers
ddrb in
Sunday, April 13 at 11:43 AM
Pipe down “Johnston in OKC!”
Johnston? Is that the more formal version of John in OKC, or were you banned from this website again?
It seems to me that bbrd commented not long ago how he was banned from this site using several different posting names. Come clean “Someone in USA!” You’re beginning to rack up more aliases than RDS. We know you’ve been stalking this website for at least a year.
A Nose For Trolls in USA
Sunday, April 13 at 01:59 PM
ddrb,
Isn’t it just like you, to think that everything on the Wal-Mart site, must be pure PR, but the SEIU tells nothing but the TRUTH!!
A Nose For Trolls,
“You’re beginning to rack up more aliases than RDS.”
And, what was the last one of your many aliases? Screwedby?
RDS in
Sunday, April 13 at 11:03 PM
Come on A Nose For Trolls in USA.... what other aliases have you used in your posts? If you’ve been around this website “for at least a year” and know the name “Someone in USA” then you’ve obviously been a regular.
mary in
Monday, April 14 at 06:04 AM
It seems to me that bbrd commented not long ago how he was banned from this site using several different posting names.
Really??? When did bbrd say that???
Obviously, “A Nose for Trolls” is the latest in a long line of aliases of your own—care to tell everyone else who you are?
bbrd in no reason to be banned...
Monday, April 14 at 08:15 AM
"The largest health care union, with 900,000 members in the field, including nurses, LPNs, doctors, lab technicians, nursing home workers, home care workers
» The largest property services union, with 225,000 members in the building cleaning and security industries, including janitors, door men and women
» The second largest public services union, with 850,000 local and state government workers, public school employees, bus drivers, and child care providers “
So basically they are “helping” the unionized professions that were the best paid of the unionized fields (other than entertainers) and have the best bargaining power since they are the hardest to replace. Since a lot of them already make six figures or close to it I can really see the public service SEIU is providing.
dave in
Monday, April 14 at 09:03 AM
Do janitors and nursing home workers earn six figures? Whoa,where do I sign up?
ddrb in
Monday, April 14 at 10:43 AM
"The largest health care union, with 900,000 members in the field, including nurses, LPNs, doctors, lab technicians, nursing home workers, home care workers”
Don’t we have some kind of a Healthcare COST crisis in this country? Wonder if those high wages in this area might have something to do with that?
“The second largest public services union, with 850,000 local and state government workers, public school employees, bus drivers, and child care providers “
Seems that taxes are going higher and strapping the finances of everybody. Wonder if that has anything to do with why people have a hard time getting ahead?
All the SEIU union is doing, is to HELP make it harder on the ‘little guy’, who isn’t a professional.
Charles in Brighton, Tn.
Monday, April 14 at 10:51 AM
Charles: Why are YOU so fearful of unions? What’s it to YOU? I don’t believe that the unions are the bogeyman-they are a red herring to divert attention from the fact that WalMart ,in it’s OWN arrogance,is it’s OWN worst enemy!
ddrb in
Monday, April 14 at 12:56 PM
Wow! 3 posts in succession from none other than RDS, mary in, and bbrd. It figures! I must have been a little closer to the truth than I thought.
The truth is bbrd, it’s not surprising why the readers of this blog get you and RDS and John in OKC and Nick and Someone in USA all confused. If you read enough of your comments, you all sound the same. Even newcomers to this blog can figure this out quickly!
For example, one poster who used the name “Richard in MSU,” referred to bbrd as “the top nominee for Walmart ass kissing lackey of the year.”
I don’t know about that. You might have to fight RDS or Someone in USA for that “honor.” But then again bbrd, maybe you and Someone in USA are one in the same. It seems that not long after Someone in USA stopped coming around here, you showed up on the scene, bbrd.
For those that don’t remember, “Someone in USA” used to work in customer service for Wal-Mart. I guess it’s only logical that somebody like that would be accustomed to defending Wal-Mart. “Someone in USA”, like Nick (another departed poster here), would always pride themselves on their “superior” reasoning and use of logic.
RDS: You’re a troll. I wouldn’t expect you to understand how or why trolls act or behave because you have no insight into your condition. Here’s the thing, Trolls say the same kinds of things. For example: The poster calling himself, “Previously Banned in Several Places” once said, “I have been blocked from this site under several different names in the past. I never once posted a bad word. The closest I came to personal attacks was when I proved that WMW both lied and exaggerated their claims. To say you only ban for bad language, etc is a bald faced lie.”
Since I believe that “Previously Banned” and “Someone in USA” and quite possibly “John in OKC” to be all one in the same, consider this, RDS: I’ve only seen two other posters on this blog besides “Previously Banned” use the term “bald faced lie.” One would be “Nick,” and the other would be “Matthew Vantress.” You don’t suppose....
Now another curious thing that “Previously Banned” (now bbrd) has said is this: “ Since I no longer reguarly participate in this forum, I cannot vouch for everything that Nick wrote. However, I never saw him posting anything offensive unless WMW considers the truth to be offensive.”
The question is, why would anyone defend anything “Nick” wrote?
Lastly RDS, I do remember “Screwedby” as well! I miss that dude, and I appreciate that you think I am him. I loved the way he seemed to be able to get under your skin. The fact is, you’ll never know for sure who I am!
A Nose for Trolls in USA
Monday, April 14 at 01:50 PM
If anything…
...your post was certainly more entertaining than anything ddrb has posted in the past couple of months!
Now, I am going to have to ask you to back-up your claims that I am any of these people…
bbrd in
Monday, April 14 at 02:19 PM
..”.your post was certainly more entertaining than anything ddrb has posted in the past couple of months!"bbrd________________________________________BB,mon cher, at least I HAVE been amusing,on occasion,which is more than can be said for you. Is it not apparent that the only identity you have is to exist as a shadow to others’ thoughts and identities? Rather like a vampire?
ddrb in
Monday, April 14 at 02:37 PM
ddrb: You are exactly right!
“bbrd” is “a shadow to others’ thoughts and identities?”
He has served as the perfect “foil,” an “apologist,” or someone running interference for others. He’s here to create doubt, cast dispersions on WMW or anyone who finds fault with Wal-Mart, and like “RDS”, “Charles in Brighton,” “dave in, and “mary in,” “bbrd” will defend Wal-Mart, even if it means suspending common sense and good reason. A trip back through the comments archive, will show that “bbrd” was never far outside of the shadows of “RDS” and “Nick.”
My claims are backed up as far as you are concerned bbrd. You’re a fraud! You’re also a Troll!
A Nose For Trolls in USA
Monday, April 14 at 03:42 PM
Sockpuppet (Internet)
Wikipedia:Sock puppetry.
A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. In its earliest usage, a sockpuppet was a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet.[1]
In current usage, the perception of the term has been extended beyond second identities of people who already post in a forum to include other uses of misleading online identities. For example, a NY Times article claims that “sock-puppeting” is defined as “the act of creating a fake online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company."[2]
The key difference between a sockpuppet and a regular pseudonym (sometimes termed an “alt") is the pretense that the puppet is a third party who is not affiliated with the puppeteer
ddrb in
Monday, April 14 at 04:02 PM
Thanks ddrb!
It sounds as though “Trolls” and “sockpuppets” may be “kissing cousins”, or at the very least, two different manifestations of the same phenomenon. I will update my internet lexicon accordingly.
A Nose For Trolls in USA
Monday, April 14 at 04:24 PM
Nose: As disturbing as the visual may be,it might be closer than just kissing!
ddrb in
Monday, April 14 at 04:41 PM
A Nose,
“will defend Wal-Mart, even if it means suspending common sense and good reason.”
And, you people will “criticize Wal-Mart even if it means suspending common sense and good reason”, so what’s your point? You take what the unions want you to believe, and support it ‘full blast’, even if it is only SPIN to make Wal-Mart look bad and the union look good!! Also, you blame management for things like lack of ‘customer service’, when it is the employees that provide the ‘customer service’!! Employees have even admitted that they give poor service, but does that register with you, no, it is always the managements fault!! Somehow management took the company to the number 1 retail slot, but you won’t even give them credit for that, to you it was the cart pushers and shelf stockers that did it!! You can’t even bring yourselves to admit that without management, those people wouldn’t even have a job at all!! You want everyone to believe that (as A Trucker said), the “undesirable and uneducated” ‘associates’ are the ones that made Wal-Mart what it is, against all of the stupid mis-steps made by management!! And, you claim that we are the ones who are “suspending common sense and good reason”, what a joke!! To even think that the ‘associates’ could build that chain of stores, is not only nonsense, but totally obsurd!! If they had the ability to do such a thing, why are they just “low income” workers? To claim that a janitor is responsible for the fact that there are bathrooms in a store, or that there would be no merchandise in a store if the stocker didn’t get it to the store, is just plain stupid!! Associates are just ‘support’ to management, not the key players, ‘associates’ are as they say, “A dime a dozen”!!
RDS in
Monday, April 14 at 11:24 PM
After reading some of the ranting by A Nose For Trolls in USA
it just hit me. Welcome back Screwed-by-Walmart!
mary in
Tuesday, April 15 at 04:11 AM
Well “mary in” I’ve got just one thing to say to you before I get to RDS. Whatever “hit you” must have also hit RDS--on the head!
Now for you RDS, you slimeball, I think I just went from merely disliking or disagreeing with you to downright hating just about everything about you! I’ve been reading not only your comments for some time, but also the comments of others who seem to hold the same low opinion of you that I now have. You seem to believe everything Wal-Mart puts out and seem to have this jones for unions, “even if it is only SPIN.” So what is your point exactly?
I’m so tempted to find out. I’m tempted swing by Springdale, Arkansas one of these days, park my rig in front of your house, stand toe-to-toe with you, and see if your intellect comes anywhere near matching your big mouth. I think I already know the answer to that one! Besides being a total waste of my time, it would be a big waste of precious and expensive fuel.
I challenge you or “mary in” or anyone else to produce my post where I called Wal-Mart associates “undesirable and uneducated.” I’ve never held that view. If I did make such a statement, I was no doubt referring to the views you and your posting “buddies” here like Charles in Brighton or Dave in hold of the typical Wal-Mart worker.
You revealed your true contempt for Wal-Mart Associates RDS when you stated: “ To even think that the ‘associates’ could build that chain of stores, is not only nonsense, but totally obsurd!!” You go on to say, “… ‘associates’ are as they say, “A dime a dozen”!!
With idiots like you running loose in this country, I suppose it shouldn’t be a big surprise that out military commanders and Generals in the Pentagon no doubt think like you as well. I suppose to them a soldier or marine is just “a dime a dozen.” I suppose it’s all the General’s like Petraeus who deserve all the “credit” for what we’re “accomplishing” in Iraq.
So RDS… put up or shut up! It’s that simple.
A Trucker in America's Heartland
Tuesday, April 15 at 07:41 AM
A Trucker,
“Now for you RDS, you slimeball, I think I just went from merely disliking or disagreeing with you to downright hating just about everything about you!”
Oh, I’m so hurt, that you don’t like me anymore, I’m just so sad about that!!
“You seem to believe everything Wal-Mart puts out and seem to have this jones for unions,”
And, you seem to believe everything that the union puts out, so what’s your point? Other than the fact that the Teamsters ‘ripped me off’ of my pension, I have little against unions!! I am just setting the record straight on how unions affect the economy and how they treat their members, if you don’t like that, well, too bad!!
“So what is your point exactly?”
Questions: Can a union guarantee ANYTHING? Can a union guarantee higher wages and better benefits?
“I’m tempted swing by Springdale, Arkansas one of these days, park my rig in front of your house, stand toe-to-toe with you, and see if your intellect comes anywhere near matching your big mouth.”
That sounds like a threat, doesn’t this site BAN people who threaten others? First, I’d call the cops and you would get a ticket for parking a truck on my street, and I’d have you arrested for assult if you laid one finger on me!! It would be YOUR big mouth that would be hurting!! Truckers tend to think they are so smart and strong!! How much smarts does it take to drive a truck, it doesn’t take a ‘rocket scientist’? Besides, your intellect couldn’t comprehend what my intellect would be telling you, unless I drew you pictures!!
“I challenge you or “mary in” or anyone else to produce my post where I called Wal-Mart associates “undesirable and uneducated.” I’ve never held that view.”
I appologize if it wasn’t you that made that statement!!
“You revealed your true contempt for Wal-Mart Associates RDS when you stated: “ To even think that the ‘associates’ could build that chain of stores, is not only nonsense, but totally obsurd!!” You go on to say, “… ‘associates’ are as they say, “A dime a dozen””
I have NO COMTEMPT for Wal-Mart ‘associates’, I think they are just workers trying to make a living just like you are, I’m just stating “Facts”, why do you have such a problem with that? How many Wal-Mart ‘associates’ do you know that have started successful retail chains? When Wal-Mart has openings for 200 people, is it not true that they usually get thousands of applications for those 200 - $7.00 an hour jobs? I would call that “A Dime a Dozen”, what would you call it?
If you have a problem with my FACTS, show FACTS that dispute them, not just ranting and raving some nonsense!!
RDS in
Tuesday, April 15 at 11:00 AM
"Truckers tend to think they are so smart and strong!! How much smarts does it take to drive a truck, it doesn’t take a ‘rocket scientist’? Besides, your intellect couldn’t comprehend....RDS"_________________________________________Rds,didn’t YOU drive a truck,as a union member for eleven years? And yes,you have been taken to task in the past for your condescending remarks. YOU sure sound like an elitist to me.
ddrb in
Tuesday, April 15 at 11:05 AM
"I appologize if it wasn’t you that made that statement!!”
That’s just like you, RDS. You shoot your big mouth off, hoping nobody will catch you. Then when you’re called on it, you apologize. The fact is, you DID say that I said something I never did!
“I’m just so sad...” --RDS
You’re sad in more ways than you’ll ever know!
A Trucker still in America's Heartland
Tuesday, April 15 at 12:26 PM
ddrb,
“Rds,didn’t YOU drive a truck,as a union member for eleven years?”
Yes, and my dad was a truck driver all his life and my brother-in-law is a truck driver, that is how I know that truck drivers are 75% B.S.!! My brother-in-law thinks he is a big ‘know-it-all’ too and would ‘kick butt’ to anyone who messed with him!!
A Trucker,
“Then when you’re called on it, you apologize.”
That just shows that I am man enough to admit when I’m wrong, and apologize for my mistake!! And, how could I know I was wrong, unless someone tells me about it?
Ken V,
You once said that Wal-Mart stock would not stay above $50.00 for very long, now, it is $56.27 a share, up $1.12 a share, just today!! Back in Oct, 2007, the price was $43.88 a share, now it is up over $12.00 a share in just 5 months, sure looks like your efforts to destroy Wal-Mart are paying off!!
RDS in
Tuesday, April 15 at 11:32 PM
RDS:
It sounds to me buddy, like you got some real dysfunctional relationships working for you!
“...my dad was a truck driver all his life and my brother-in-law is a truck driver, that is how I know that truck drivers are 75% B.S.!! My brother-in-law thinks he is a big ‘know-it-all’ too...” My guess is that you are the runt of the litter.
No doubt many in your family hold the same low opinion of you as many of the people who post comments here.
A Trucker in the middle of Iowa
Wednesday, April 16 at 07:04 AM
You once said that Wal-Mart stock would not stay above $50.00 for very long, now, it is $56.27 a share, up $1.12 a share, just today!! Back in Oct, 2007, the price was $43.88 a share, now it is up over $12.00 a share in just 5 months, sure looks like your efforts to destroy Wal-Mart are paying off!!
RDS - Ken and others, here enjoy thinking mere “perceptions”, alone will be the prime catalyst to Wal-Mart’s demise.
They also believe in the Tooth Fairy.
Based on the current economy (and WMT’s rising price), it is looking-like Wal-Mart (along with their chief discount and warehouse club competitor) are all enjoying record highs because of a new “perception”.
That perception being “when the going gets tough, people shop at discount stores”.
bbrd in
Wednesday, April 16 at 08:24 AM
bbrd,
“RDS - Ken and others, here enjoy thinking mere “perceptions”, alone will be the prime catalyst to Wal-Mart’s demise.”
Ken V. has said in the past, that he believes that “perception” is better than “reality”!! Guess that is why he still “perceives” that he is winning his war against Wal-Mart!! Did you notice that WM stock went over $57.00 a share today?
A Trucker,
“My guess is that you are the runt of the litter.”
No, I’m just smarter than the others!! I just didn’t like being away from my family for weeks at a time!! And, I can tell, that you have that “I’m the King of the Road” mentality!!
BTW: Are you a union or non-union truck driver or an independent (Owner Operator)?
RDS in
Wednesday, April 16 at 10:15 PM
Did you notice that WM stock went over $57.00 a share today?
Yes, I did notice, RDS—thanks to the little ticker in the right-hand column of this very webpage (really, WMW powers-that-be, a “successful” Wal-Mart isn’t exactly underscoring your cause, now is it?).
Hate to break the news to everyone, but WMT will probably break $60 within a couple of weeks (once those economic stimulus checks start hitting the bank).
Like I said, earlier, it’s all about perception…
My guess is that you are the runt of the litter.
While we’re on the subject of being unkind to others…
My guess is that you are the former loser, “Big D”, right?
bbrd in
Thursday, April 17 at 08:24 AM
Thank you, WalmartWatch,that is thanks to some of your msgs posted here, I was able to save a bunch on money on my car insurance. Great stuff!
Ronald in
Friday, April 18 at 10:58 AM
I appreciate you fellows ascribing things to me I’ve never said, and congratulate all of you that were wise enough to buy WMT when it bottomed.
“when the going gets tough, people shop at discount stores”.
That’s stage 1. I’m looking forward to Stage 2 when people demand quality for their hard earned money. The price of disposability is going up.
**Note to Trucker: RDS is an addled old man, only concerned with his own comfort and convenience. As we say in Texas: All hat and no cattle. Confronting him face-to-face would be pathetic.
Ken V in Texas
Saturday, April 19 at 06:05 AM
You’re absolutely right, Ken V.
“Confronting him face-to-face would be pathetic.”
Did you notice how RDS says I “threatened” him? I think there’s a big difference between saying “I’m tempted” to do something and actually doing it.
With record high fuel prices now, it would not only be pathetic, it would be a waste of money and time!
A Trucker in Indianapolis right now
Saturday, April 19 at 09:13 AM
A Trucker,
“Did you notice how RDS says I “threatened” him? I think there’s a big difference between saying “I’m tempted” to do something and actually doing it.”
Do you actually know what the word ‘threatened’ means? It doesn’t mean ‘actually doing it’ and does mean ‘I’m tempted to do something’!! If I were to say, “I’m tempted to hit you”, that is a ‘threat’!!
RDS in
Sunday, April 20 at 09:43 AM
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