Bridging The Political Divide

You people make me sick. You wouldn’t know what it’s like to work at Wal-Mart, or even to have to shop there. I do, and this is a disgrace. Take your anti American political agenda elsewhere and leave my country alone. Shameful. This is the cause you’re devoted to? Ungrateful rich brats.

Actually there’s a lot on this site--some of which is very interesting. There’s been way too much power at the federal level for far too long. And this needs to change. The voice(s) of the multi-nationals roar like a lion and the voice(s) of the people squeak like a mouse. So the voices of the multi-nationals and big business wind up speaking as if they were us--the people. Too many politicians in both major parties are corrupt. The federal govt. wields power over local and state govt. by feeding or withholding on tax subsidies going back to these areas in dribs and drabs. For the balance between local, state and federal to right itself we are going to have to look first at correcting the income tax.

In any case I like the idea of conservative and also progressive minded people working for solutions together at the local level--empowering themselves and their communities.

This is a thoughtful and interesting article.  I wouldn’t have known about this group.  Thank you.

Some may think this is a stupid article.  I would like to tell everyone I am witnessing it in real life!!!  We are fighting to keep a WM out of Murphysboro IL and the people that have come togather are from both sides of the political spectrum.  This is a fight to save our neighborhood and what is left of the small town down the road.  So I for one believe this movement will continue, until the home town America we knew or maybe a little different version makes a come back.

How do you know your community really does not want the Wal-Mart? Is “the community” really against it, or is the oppsitioon entirely from a small minority group that wants to deny choices to others?

Go ahead and let it open. If you are so sure the community does not want it, the Wal-Mart will close within a month because noone from Murphysboro wanted to work or shop in it.

I agree.  Let the store open.  If nobody shows up to shop there, then the store will have to close.

I think we need to get rid of both Walmart and America.  Seriously, wouldn’t we be better off if we just scraped capitalism?  I think so.  Look how good health care is in China.  Walmart doesn’t even provide health care even unless you are an owner.  I really don’t like walmart.

They take everyones money and don’t pay their slave workers anything.  I would rather pledge my allegience to a union then a flag.

I work in a union shop now since I left walmart and it is great.  If I don’t want to do something I make the non-union morons do it.  They cannot do anything about it because they are so dumb they don’t pay union dues.

Lets see the town has orginized a group to work on getting the downtown up and going again headed by our State Rep Mike Bost’s brother.  Yet the Leadrership and Mike Bost sister is doing all they can to get a Supercenter in for the tax money, none of this seems right.  Our county is not growing so were is this money going to come from?  Lets see 3 gas stations will close, 1 or both of the grocery stors will close the eye glass shop will close H&R;block will close 1 or 2 of the tire centers will close thats were it is coming from.  There is no good for a small town when WM comes in.  The Mayor says we can’t afford to lose the WM now, it is only 30% of tax base what happens when they are 70%?  If Wm was such a great thing for small town America why is it being run out town more and more?

Hey Farmer, you may want to check out WakeupWalMart.com in the forum area under Illinois and join the talk.

John Walton Showed You the Way.

This is to Walmart Management - Specifically - and S. Rob.

Though worth Billions - self actualization meant to your brother, after Vietnam - something he created with his own hands.  A relearning experience.  Your mother is still alive, one brother runs the company and is pissed off (sorry) at the stock price.  Two shorted, one got caught on the highway (dui), one neice got busted for cheating at college (25k for the roommate) and renaming the center.  One is divorced twice over, and one probably I’ll guess is happy.

Lee Scott runs the company, (H. Lee); Thomas Couglin did after Glass, and all are rich and fighting eachother and Walstreet.  You worry about the stock (2 of you shorted it).

A simple question -

Can you take it with you?

And I’m not dumb.

I’m not missing anything (if you read this - perhaps).

I question if John Walton ran the company.  I question if S. Rob Walton runs the company.  I don’t know how many boxes each lifted up those stairs at a young age.  Is profit better than giving away the store, and would there ever have been any profit.

Here’s my main question:

Isn’t there a happy medium?

Yes anonymous there is a happy medium.  It is called socialism.  We need to get rid of walmart and all the other capitalist pigs and take over all industry.  Lets start with walmart!

I am going to stoop to a lower level.  I rarely do that, but then again - I work at Walmart.  This is really a thought on a different thread - about spinmeisters - action alley in Bentonville - and the real action alley - the store.

To number crunchers and spinmeisters - at home office:

From: a walmart associate in a walmart store and an ex-number crunchers.

Action alley is really a term used in the store.  One of 3800 or so stores - the two lanes stemming from the two doors - on in general merchandise - and one door in grocery.

There is no horseshit - or bullshit - lies that will fly from home office - or those in home office - that will not be felt at the store level.

George Bush even learned that recently - on a flyover.  Every once in a while - it will behove you - to come down to earth.

So - simply stop lying - simply stop spinning.  It will benefit you in the long run - if it isn’t too late.

P.S.

Fuck you.

(sorry).

James in Bentonville - Specifically.

Communism?  Hrmpphh!

And I always thought myself an American.  My family fought for America (I couldn’t - hip problem).  Did any of yours?

Wow.

Right back at ya -

Fuck you you elitist let em eat cake self-centered bastard.

Every day I go to work - at Walmart as an associate.

Try this on for size - I didn’t vote in the last election.

I am going to vote this year.

James in Bentonville, AR

Do you suppose they allow labor unions in China?  I, probably all of us, would like to know.

The “too much stuff from China” criticism is the only valid one I have heard against Wal-Mart. China is a socialist country, and because of this the workers have no rights.

The United States, however, should not complain. In most states, workers are forced to join unions against their will. Being forced into unions is as bad as being barred from joining them.

If Wal-Mart stopped importing from China, the well-funded special interests that are making a career of bashing it (through venues such as this web site) would still cry wolf over and over: the real issue for them is that Wal-Mart does not force its workers to give union dues.

The “We Hate Wal-Mart” campaign would vanish overnight if Wal-Mart forced all its workers to join unions. Even if Wal-Mart decided to import only goods made in North Korean child rape camps, they would be in the unions’ “good list” for forcing its workers to hand over union dues.

The unions have no concern for Chinese workers. Look at the quasi-racist anti-free-trade bashing the unions engage in when the workers are from foreign, but free, countries like Mexico.

Okay, before everyone gets pissed off at me - listen.  I used to work for walmart and I got fired for things I didn’t really do.  There was this one lady who got talked her friend into both saying I sexually harrassed them.  I hardly even said anything sexual to them at all.  But that didn’t matter.  The pigs at walmart fired me anyway.  I could barely make my truck payments.  Anyway, now I work for a union company and life is a lot better.  I don’t have to worry about sexual harrasment charges.  I can pretty much say what I want because I am in tight with the union boss.

Anyway, what I was saying about socialism and China is that it is like a giant union.  It would be a good thing for workers.  No more corporate fat cats.  Plus free health care for everyone.  And we would all have job security.  I havn’t fought for any wars because wars are for blood thirsty Republicans only.

I showed up a half an hour late for work last night and I made the non-union guy stay late so he could catch up my work.  That is how great the union is for its workers.  That is why that saying about living better by working union is so true.

David, I know what you are getting at.  I have read a bunch of your stupid posts.  I bet that if you took a factory from china and walmart and compared the work it would be a lot easier to work in a factory in china then walmart.  Now, that is a fact.  So, what do you say about that?  Huh?  That is why we need to elect Hillary Clinton so she can nationalize all industry.  It would be much better if we didnt’ have any private business owners - period.

James.  I won’t compare stupid posts.  I will just quote you without comment: “I bet that if you took a factory from china and walmart and compared the work it would be a lot easier to work in a factory in china then walmart.  Now, that is a fact. “

James.  I should have thrown in this these while comparing stupidity:

“I hardly even said anything sexual to them at all.”

“I don’t have to worry about sexual harrasment charges.  I can pretty much say what I want because I am in tight with the union boss.”

I would say that the combination of those two statements is a pretty good indictment of your attitude.

Hey - it’s the weekend.

Sales count on a month to month basis - period - and a quarterly basis.

Not on a daily basis - up 5% - down 7% - and last years friday is this day’s thursday (foodstamps aside).

Be careful about posting - those above me.

It is a slow day - but everything will be read.

Here’s the real post - you’re talking about China and Unions.  Facts in if not an historical sense - an unforgotten news item of recent - may catch up with you.

David, are you telling me I am guilty of sexual harrassment without even hearing what happened?  This is what I did.  I was stalking in the pharmacy with this lady.  She was stocking the condoms and stuff.  I was totally kidding and I said why don’t you try opening one of those with your mouth and putting it on a bannana.  Then when you get good at it I will let you try it on me.  Anyway, she didn’t even say anything then.  She just told the supervisor about a week later.

I have talked to a few of my buddies and they said they have all said worse things then that at work and were never fired.  I think it is Walmart BS that I was fired.  I guarentee I could say that at work now and no one would have a problem because they are more relaxed and progressive toward sexual things.  That is another reason republicans piss me off and why I am glad I work union.

James

Now that I have heard the story I am convinced you should have been fired.

It has been my experience that you can get fired for a whole lot less than that.  The fact that you are counting on the union to protect you from acts worse than that confirms my ealier suspisions.

It’s pretty clear that you asked her for oral sex.

If you like this new company so much, they probably have a policy where the women have to deliver and not complain about it.

Oh wait. Mr Clinton, is this you???? I was wondering what you were doing since you left 1600 Pa. Avenue. You can’t hide it. Your secret is out!

james said: “ showed up a half an hour late for work last night and I made the non-union guy stay late so he could catch up my work.  That is how great the union is for its workers”

And people wonder why companies end up outsourcing factories to Mexico just to get away from the unions.

David and Nick, I didn’t mean anything when I said that to her.  If she would have said okay, I probably wouldn’t have even let her.  So smoke on that!  Plus she is approaching fifty-years old.

I think you guys are just sexually repressed republicans.  You probably get all nervous when people talk about it and stuff.  Anyway, I have told the story to tons of people and you guys are the only ones who thinks it was a big deal.

As far as unions go, they provide good job security.  I don’t care if jobs go overseas as long as I still have a union job.  Here is the thing, if Hillary wins i think she will work hard to nationalize all industry.  If she succedes then all those corperate fat cats wont have anyone to boss around.  Then they will have to work for once in thier lives.  If jobs go overseas it is just one step easier for Clinton to nationalize all industry and we can get good health benefits and working hours like China.  So use your mouth to put that on a bananna!

James

It was offensive regardless of your intent and by definition sexual harassment.  I would have been fired or severely reprimanded by any organization I have ever worked for.  If I was not fired, it would have only taken one more very inoffensive statement or act and I would have been fired.

I am not a Hillary fan, but I can guarantee you that she will not nationlize all industry.  There are too many rational people in the US to allow that.

I am not one hundred percent sure whether you are genuine or not.  It is not an uncommon tactic for someone to pose as someone else to try to present as bad an image as possible for their opposition. 

As a minimum, I would like to hear some of the walmart watch advocates condemn your actions and statements.  I can’t believe that they would approve.  If they do not condemn, I can only assume that they approve.  How about it Larry?

At any rate, I strongly suspect that your statements will be removed by walmart watch.  They will not want you to represent their interests.

This is the REAL Nick in Wheeling. I did not post any previous replies to this thread. The person doing it in my name is a cowardly imposter-probably a closet homosexual. His posts were in line with something I would write but I did NOT write them and I rarely post on Sundays.

By the way, James, I cannot believe ANY company would hire someone like you. You give hardworking, decent men a bad name. People like you have made possible to new PC work environment we have to deal with. You have harassed and caused problems for your co-workers. I have no doubt that a stupid, lazy slob like yourself could get a union job. I have no doubt that you could keep it, despire your ridiculous behavior. Really, all you need to do to be in a union is hand over dues, look the other way at no-show jobs and pass the cash along to your real bosses-the ones who don’t have union titles, know what I mean?

People,
I really think James is just pulling your leg. He’s is demostrating how absurd the union is by being absurd.If he is being honest about his story, he is really a idiot. No one in today’s society would expect to keep a job after saying that stuff, unless you were in good with the union boss.

steve

I have some suspicions about James also, as I indicated in an earlier post.  However, I have known people like James.  So I think it is also possible that it is ligitimate.  Who knows, except James.

I would still like to hear some pro walmart watch condemnation.  Their silence does not speak well for their integrity.

Why don’t you guys try and twist my words some more?  That way you don’t have to listen to what I am saying.  You are the idiot Steve.  Are you some kind of internationalist with no loyalty to anyone?

David, all I am saying is that if we all worked union things would be a lot easier for everyone.  That’s all.  The whole sexual harrasment thing is a nothing anyway.

So called Nick, I like your most recent post the best.  You should join a union though because if you homo bash at walmart you will get fired.  They are so freaking sensitive.  You can see by the comment I said about the condom.  It got me fired for basically nothing. 

Anyway, I have read Nicks stuff and I doubt that last post is the real Nick.  He is such an uptight republican that he wouldn’t even say the word homosexual.  I think it is probably because he is totally repressed.  Also, I want everyone to know I work hard.  So what if I show up a little late and take long lunch breaks.  I usually get all my stuff done on time.  So piss off nick. or whoever you are.

James

We don’t have to twist your words.  Your views are strange enough.  You need no help from us.

To James in Bentonville - Specifically.

You have been triangulated.

Your words have been twisted, good David and Nick are patting themselves on one back, and the discussion has ended.

One more educated poster.