Do Women Have Issues?

Isn’t it nice that the contributors of content to this site are so color and gender blinded they put a picture of a black man next to a headline about women? 

Next time if you have a story titled, “DO WOMEN HAVE ISSUES?,” perhaps the picture next to it should be a woman.  Just a thought.  I know it’s a mind blowing idea to make the headline and picture match.  Keep working on it I’m sure you’ll get it.

Peace

What’s wrong with this headline and picture?  That’s one good looking woman.  Next time maybe the headline and picture should match up.

Peace

Tony

Are you locked up? If so how many year have you been down? Must bee a long sentence for him to start looking good as a woman to you. Or do you just like heavy bald women with mustaches?

DAVE SMITH
PROUD UNION IRONWORKER

Shucks I would have thought this paid WMW preacher would have had an article praising Wal-Mart.  Since WM just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars (co-sponsoring with Colgate) on a several page folder extolling the “Black History Month” (when ever that is).

They had all kinds of artistis included.  If they would have had George Washington Carver in there (even though not an artist) it would not have been so bad.

Now like a lot of bloggers on here wanting justice from WM, please send Lee Scott a letter demanding a “White History Month” (I don’t care which month it is)

Another problem I have with this is why is it calle Black History and not African American History Month?  Why in the world am I so inquisitive??

knowledgeable, how long do you think it will be befor someone calls you a racist or a Nazi for those remarks?

WMW, you might as well erase these two comments, too.

It is a shame that this site only wants their opinion expressed as much as possible.  That is why I posted many times, we don’t learn unless one can express an opinion.
That is free speech.  I have had many posts deleted such as this one. Unfortunately much truth will never reach the readers on here.  However I don’t intend to change just to get my post from becoming deleted.

Someone—To be fair they also took off two other posts of Tony and Ironhead (though they were not very nice in speaking of the Reverend)

It is also ironic that in the different business that I had trusted employees who were black with keys to everything including the money.  In the construction specialty installtion company 50 per cent of the installers were black.  When I was in the bar business a black preacher and I used to sit and have a few beers and discuss different subjects, including various aspects of the racial problems I might add he and I prayed together on several occasions.

Equal work does mean equal pay. Take two men, one black and one white. Both have law degrees and 10 years experience in corporate law at the same law firm. Will the firm pay the white guy more?

Or take two people, one male and one female. Both have medical degrees, both did their internships and residencies at Johns Hopkins, both have been published 5 times, both are the same age and both started at the same time in the exact same specialty. Will the man earn more money than the woman?

Your answer, in case you are at Forest Gump’s IQ level, is NO on both counts.

You have to compare Apples to Apples, not Apples to Oranges. People like to compare an Investment Banker with 15 years experience to an Investment Banker with 3 years experience. They are both investment bankers and both do the same thing at the same firm yet the man with 15 years experience earns more. This is discrimination? Could it be that he has more EXPERIENCE?

Two people with the exact same qualifications, working the same job and having the same experience at the same company will more than likely earn exactly the same amount of money. Now, performance and incentive bonuses might change this but that is purely a results based incentive.

The only case where women earn less than men in similar jobs is when it is time for salary negotiations. Studies have shown that women are more willing to settle for less of a raise and are often afraid to ask for higher salaries. If there are any disparities in the salaries of equally matched women, it is due to the above factor.

Compare all the factors and then tell me that any company discriminates in such an obvious fashion. Aside from being bad business and a potentially huge financial liability, it is also horrible PR. It doesn’t make sense. No half intelligent management would ever encourage or even tolerate such discrimination.

I think that Walmart is an equal opportunity abusive employer. They will screw anyone when it comes to them getting the biggest chunk of the pie.

R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
We will never forget what you did Walmart.
Never.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a long time.  At one time in our history women were not allowed to vote or work , we were property.  African Americans were slaves only considered 2/3rds a person.  Even after we got the right to vote and slaves were freed (slaves were freed before women got the vote) discrimination still took and takes place.  Wealthy white men did not want to lose power.  Even in our modern times there are those whom do not want things to change.  They are conservative in their views and believe that women have a place at home and blacks have a place in subordinate careers.  This has prompted legislation and organizations to fight for a more leveled playing field.  The majority of wealth in this country is not owned by women or minorities.  It still is owned by white men who have no desire to give any of it up.  Fortunately the U.S. census (can be found on their site) has all the numbers showing that many women are now in the work force but lag behind men doing comparable jobs with comparable experience.  There is really good numbers on living conditions , minority information , and lack of health care for millions of Americans and children.  For you, Ellis to say and believe that there is no discrimination, even though it has been proved in court many times throughout modern history, so much so that some companies have whole teams or divisions that monitor and train employees against various forms of discrimination.  When compaines have no posting of management positons and a high percentage of management is all male and are responsible for all promotions, red flags go up.  If there is a huge labor force of women who have time accrued, experience and education but who are repeatedly passed over for promotion by newly incoming men-This is discrimination.  It happens still alot.  Costco got caught with their pants down on this and walmart will also.  There is a underlying belief left over from pre WWII era that men must be paid more and be promoted as they have families to support.  Sadly enough, single mothers have families to support also.  Dead beat dads often leave moms to try to fend off wolves by working two jobs or by putting in for better positions and longer hours.  Data can be found on numerous sites produed by federal government including the census site of 2000.  It is hard for me to believe there are people who believe that the world is peachy and that everyone starts out the same with the same opportunities and education.  Of course we do not!  I am saddened by some of the spin I read from some of you.  Shame on you!

Right on Alex.  Been enjoying your posts for awhile though blogging is not really my cup of tea as it is David’s, I do occassionally read posted comments and think there is some really hard people with warped ideas of reality.  I maybe a young liberal with passionate views but I still like to think I can play devil’s advocate and see both sides.  Some bloggers on this site are so infuriating and ignorant that I do not even feign trying to be fair.  Hope you keep up your blogs…

Michelle Smith
wife of blockhead,ironheaded,
Davey

For years Wal-Mart more or less openly told their female associates they were paid less because they weren’t prinicple breadwinners and their jobs were hobbies.

MICHELLE,

“The majority of wealth in this country is not owned by women or minorities.  It still is owned by white men who have no desire to give any of it up.”

This is a statement that can easily be seen as false, to someone who wants to really look at it.  Are you trying to say that all of the black rap stars, football players, baseball players, actors and actresses, congressmen and women, etc., etc., are not wealthy?  As for NOT WANTING TO GIVE IT UP, why would they?  Would you want your husband or yourself, to give up your jobs, just so a minority person could have it?  Also, wealth, is not finite, there are not only so many dollars and if you have wealth, that means someone else is denied wealth, everyone could become wealthy, if they put forth the effort to do so.  But, sadly, there are many who think sitting at home drinking beer and having kids they can’t afford to support is an easier way to live, than going out there and putting their noses to the grindstone or living in the ‘rat race’.  And, then people like you and they want others to take over supporting them.

“Dead beat dads often leave moms to try to fend off wolves by working two jobs or by putting in for better positions and longer hours.”

I would agree with you more, if you put more effort into making laws to force those Dead Beat Dads pay to support the kids they father, instead of asking Wal-Mart to do it for them.  I have seen many women, who would have less problems, if they were getting the child support they are entitled to.  Why blame Wal-Mart for this, they aren’t making those fathers be Dead Beats, are they?

When you are wearing blinders and focusing on one narrow view, one tends not to see what the real problems are.  You need to spend more time looking at all sides of an issue, before you jump in head first.  A good example of this, is your husband, who has a certain view of things and to him, everything that goes against his thinking, MUST be some sort of radical propaganda, at least you sound somewhat reasonable.  He reminds me of my dad, to him, there were two ways to look at things, His Way or the Wrong Way, in other words he was always right and if you disagreed with him, you were always wrong.  To this date, he will still argue that we have never been out in space, to him, it’s all propaganda to say otherwise.

The above post says:
“I would agree with you more, if you put more effort into making laws to force those Dead Beat Dads pay to support the kids they father, instead of asking Wal-Mart to do it for them”

I think the real issue is a fair days wage for a fair days work.
Everyone has responsibilities that go far beyond a single issue.
By the way, how many kids is Lee Scott supporting that he needs 22 million in a year?

R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
We will never forget what you did Walmart.

Alex,

“I think the real issue is a fair days wage for a fair days work.”

You are right, and a fair days wage for a fair days work, is equal to what a person is willing to work for.  If I am willing to cut your lawn for $25.00 and you are willing to pay me $25.00, then that is a fair days pay for a fair days work.  The day that Wal-Mart can no longer get people to work for the wage Wal-Mart pays, they will have to re-evaluate their wage structure and decide whether or not they will be willing to pay more or change their job descriptions.  People are only worth, what they are willing to work for, if they were worth more, they would work where they could get paid more, get it?

So the people in China are worth pennies an hour?
Lets get real. You like to support a system that screws people while rewarding the few at the top.

R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse.

Alex,

“You like to support a system that screws people while rewarding the few at the top.”

And, you want to create a system that pays people more than their labor output is worth.  You want to judge a person’s labor worth, by what you think they are worth as a human being.  The worth of their labor output, can be way different than what their value is to society.  People get paid for the value of their labor output, not their worth.  I think I’m worth $30.00 an hour, because I have made the equivalent of that, therefore, according to you, if I went to work at Wal-Mart, they should pay me $30.00 an hour then, right?  How much do you think YOUR labor is worth and how much do you make an hour at your job?

It is unfortunate that some (knowledgeable, EllisW and Bob, Mark and someone etc.) are only capable of viewing the world through statistics (and usually false statistics) and the Christhating comparable monetary drivel of wolves with a sterile monotone diet of right-wing insanity. Every one of your posts show indifference to justice and hostility to a decent concerning manner towards WalMart employees.

Money in the hands of WalMart is like giving a cigarette to a monkey.

You defend a ‘money loving psychopathic attitude’ without end. WalMart and Edelman have aleady been caught for paying bloggers to come to these sites and defend WalMart’s illegal and irresponsible behaviors. It has become expected of you to be totally dead to the spirit of truth about subjects posted here. You are Christhaters, wolves and fools that are consumed with materialism and endless excuses for the behaviors of WalMart management and their business take on employees (see Susan chambers memo) that Americans have come to despise. Shoppers and ‘associates’ are often economically entrapped by WalMart in many ways, but you will not and cannot accept the simple truth about that. You suggest WalMart sales figures or the claims of numbers of shoppers as representing the views of Americans. WalMart is a store of last resort. Most people would not shop there if they did not have to. Most ‘associates’ would not work there if they actually had a ‘choice’ in this wage and benefit dwindling service economy.
The turnover rate alone (700,000 +/year) shows plain hostility to employees and living wage pay and health care etc.

You continue with WalMart talking point propaganda to respond to lawsuits and the posted observations here and elsewhere (WalMart now has over 5,000 lawsuits per year) about discrimination, forcing associates to work off the clock, COLIs (company owned life insurance policies on ‘dead peasant’ employees, where WalMart gets to collect the entire benefit of $300,000 when an $7/hr associate dies), back pay owed to associates etc etc. The destruction of good paying jobs, successful retailers like Costco with a union, killing people over shoplifting etc etc receives from you ‘love of money’ arrogance paid for blogging responses that again show total disregard for people. The WalMart line.

Your response to injustices (even when found guilty by the courts) is invariably that WalMart is making money or has the legal right to screw people over (Canada). Somehow being judged guilty must still be OK. Love of money psychopaths are written in stone.

WalMart- We pretend to care about ‘associates’ even though the truth continues to reveal what we really are. Frauds with a ‘war room’ group of Christhating propagandists.

SanDiegoView,

“WalMart is a store of last resort. Most people would not shop there if they did not have to. Most ‘associates’ would not work there if they actually had a ‘choice’ in this wage and benefit dwindling service economy.”

And, where is your proof of this?  You are saying that people have NO choice, therefore, there must be NO other retail businesses in America, right?  We live in a mobile society and it has been noted by people on your side, that Wal-Mart builds on the outskirts of towns and people have to drive to get to them, so, unless they are the only store in the county, people do have a choice, yet they still pick Wal-Mart to shop at!!  And, the fact that, as you say, Wal-Mart has a 700,000+ turnover rate a year, they must have a choice of where to work, unless these people are going totally jobless after working for Wal-Mart.  Your arguements sound nice, but, have no basis in fact.

Like I have said before, claiming that a company is SCREWING their employees, must show that they are treating their employees in a manner that is below the standards of other companies in the same sector.  To say they don’t pay enough or have good enough benefits, you have to compare that with what pay and benefits, the others in the sector are doing.  And, you can’t single out 1 business that is a warehouse club and compare it with a retail chain.

“ (WalMart now has over 5,000 lawsuits per year)”

Considering it’s size and it’s “deep pockets”, I think you might find that this many lawsuits is not out of the norm for large companies.  The more money a company makes, the more people want to take it away from them!!!

SanDiego post of 2/15 @ 8:55AM

Your first paragraph lists me as “...the Christhating comparable monetary drivel of wolves with a sterile monotone diet of right-wing insanity.”

Could you please explain to all and especially me, what this means??  Such inciteful but not insightful writing.

I have not had a chance to respond to your post (as I said I would) on the other thread “Can Corp Am Fix, etc.  Maybe I will do it on this thread as it is more current.  Surely you want to know how WM pays me as a blogger and my relationship with my “boyfriend Rush Limbaugh” (as you posted). 

I am also reading the Bible to understand it like you do.

“...the Christhating comparable monetary drivel of wolves with a sterile monotone diet of right-wing insanity.”

I’d hate to have to paraphrase it myself but it is a beautiful string of words. Almost....um....poetic!

Boob

“ (WalMart now has over 5,000 lawsuits per year)”

Considering it’s size and it’s “deep pockets”, I think you might find that this many lawsuits is not out of the norm for large companies.  The more money a company makes, the more people want to take it away from them!!!

Boob what you don’t conswidder is that those 5000 law suits are on the behalf millions of plaintifs, and THAT is, way out of the “NORM” for any company.

DAVE SMITH
PROUD UNION IRONWORKER

OOPS, that should have been “CONSIDER”

IRONHEADED,

“is that those 5000 law suits are on the behalf millions of plaintifs,”

So, you are saying that EVERY one of those 5000 lawsuits were on behalf of millions of people right?  What it really means, is that a bunch of people sued Wal-Mart to see what they could get out of it.  Most of the people in the class action suits, just jumped on the legal “Money Train”, looking for a free ride!!  Remember, no other retailer is as big as Wal-Mart, so you can’t say that others don’t get sued as much, in fact, didn’t Costco just get sued for much the same thing?

As for other companies, ever see warning labels, which may sound ‘stupid’, each one of them equals a lawsuit filed by some idiot, who was too stupid to use the product properly.  Example: the famous McDonalds “HOT” coffee incident.

And, I hate to tell you, but a lawsuit is not a judgement or finding of guilt.

Ken V

Your post is somewhat true, except that what SanDiego posted is far from poetic (if I understand the word correctly)
and surely no one can parse what he posted.

Now to SanDiego In

Would you please answer the question that I posed?  You raised it by your critizing of me so clarify yourself.  If you ever ask me a question I will honestly answer it.

OOPS, that should have been “CONSIDER”

I thought you were doing your Elmer Fudd impression.