First Photos of Wal-Mart’s New “Marketside” Stores
The Financial Times brings news that the Building Dept. of the City of Mesa, AZ. has posted on its website some of the first photos of Wal-Mart’s new “Marketside” stores. The stores signal a departure for Wal-Mart, as they are significantly smaller than the retailer’s traditional format and designed to compete head-to-head with UK retailer Tesco’s “Fresh and Easy” markets.
Marketside’s small format isn’t the only thing that distinguishes the pilot program from other Wal-Mart stores. Marketsides have completely independent design elements and don’t mention the word “Wal-Mart.” From the Financial Times:
The design includes a natural wood finish around the entrance, and deep-purple awnings - the same colour that will be used on the aprons of the staff, and on its website, http://www.marketplace.com. The Marketside name appears in lower case green lettering, with no reference to its parent company.
As Wal-Mart nears the U.S. saturation point for its traditional stores, the company has been forced to evolve into alternate formats. But Marketside’s distinct branding implies the company is worried customers have had enough not only of Supercenters, but of Wal-Mart itself.
Posted by Alex Goldschmidt on Tuesday, August 26, 2008







COMMENTS
First it was the BIG NASTY BOILS & Now we’ve got to deal with an ANNOYING RASH!!!??? Wal*Mart is like some wierd Opedius Complex story: When it comes to small and family run businesses they want to KILL the POPS & F**K the MOMS..
Shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 03:56 PM
I’d be curious if this is a different corporate entity,altogether? This could allow for a different tax structure and criteria for corporate welfare and tax avoidance plans-not to mention local and state and federal tax incentives and grants for “smaller” businesses.
ddrb in
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:26 PM
ddrb in
I’m getting a stomach ache! America is going to be a vast landscape of these things and Dunkin Donuts. I have to leave the Country just to go on vacation and feel like I’m not in the same city (Anywhere USA).
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:31 PM
Bobby: The homogenization of the landscape is the first hurdle.
ddrb in
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:38 PM
This is really getting to be like a bad science fiction movie. Plan 666 from Bentonville. In fact did you know that if you count the letters in Sam Walton’s Fathers name” Thomas Gibson Walton” you get 666.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:38 PM
Bobby: i think Ken did a link on something similar not too long ago. You can check it out in the search engine here. It may be in there.
ddrb in
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:40 PM
Darn that Ken! Beat me Again! Isn’t there something in revelations about chopping off the monsters head and 100 more grow back? Ken? I know your out there. Once Again, this is election season. Deafeating the Wal*Mart Beast, strts on the Local Level. Blighted Cities, Boarded up Businesses, High Crime Areas? Traffic Jams, High Gas Prices? Stop Urban Sprawl! Demand that your local politicians take a stand or vote them out.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:48 PM
Oh I left out Low Home Values. This is also a product of bad City Planning and Urban Sprawl. Wal*Mart LOVES Urban Sprawl!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:51 PM
Bobby: There needs to be a WalMart Watch wrestling team.The WMW World Federation. Whatcha think?
ddrb in
Tuesday, August 26 at 04:59 PM
Hey, Bobby, come and visit where I live. It is NOT anytown USA. The only Wal-Mart in the Adirondacks is currently in Ticonderoga about 1 and a half hours away.
Wal-Mart tried to get into Lake Placid in 1993. Lake Placid is abut 10 miles away from me. They fought hard, but in January of 1996 the vote went down, and Wal-Mart was denied a building permit. They fought that decision in court and LOST NOT ONCE BUT TWICE!!
Ten years later they came looking at our little village. But opposition FORMED IMMEDIATELY. Wal-Mart needed a 10 acre sand lot to be rezoned. Well, our newly elected politicians STOPPED THE REZONING that had been started by the previous politicians.
We all watched the Wal-Mart real estate guy leave immediately when the vote went down. It was 2 votes to continue rezoning the property commercial, and 3 votes to stop the rezoning. The Wal-Mart representative LEFT IMMEDIATELY WITH A CELL PHONE GLUED TO HIS EAR.
Currently, we are redoing our master land use plan for the village. And we are in the process of also putting in a retail size cap here too. Just last week we put in a temporary 1 year cap which will become permanent once the land use plan is adopted.
We are one of the few villages left with a small business district. The only fast food we have here presently is a Pizza Hut, and McDonalds. Our little village consistently gets voted cool mountain town, great vacation spot, great place to live, etc. And in 1998 we got voted All America City.
Our problem lately, is that Tupper Lake, about 15 minutes away if courting Wal-Mart. A plastics factory went out of business and Nigro Developers out of Albany is looking to purchase and put in a large retail development. Tupper’s Mayor wants Wal-Mart, and has written them a letter, so we’ll see. I’m not holding my breath.
But at any rate we’re NOT ANYTOWN USA!!!
Jane in N.Y. in
Tuesday, August 26 at 05:11 PM
Jane in N.Y. in
I think I may have started my Family at lake George… Love it up there! I went to Cape Cod a couple of months back and was totally disheartened. One of the best places in America Blighted With Dunkin Donuts a Wal*Mart. We had actually switched to Cape Cod a few years back from the Adirondacks. Now I’ve been to Fort Ticonderoga, Please don’t tell me that they put a Wal*Mart there? Are they out to destroy our History as Well as Our Heritage?
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 05:27 PM
ddrb in
I’d get my ass wooped! I’d do as well in a Wal*Mart Watch Wrestling Match as a WMW Spelling Bee… WMW does have a nice ring to it though. We need a Logo. I would be the opposite of the one on the T-Shirt, With Stars and Stripes!
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 05:32 PM
Jane in N.Y. in
“Our problem lately, is that Tupper Lake, about 15 minutes away if courting Wal-Mart. A plastics factory went out of business and Nigro Developers out of Albany is looking to purchase and put in a large retail development. Tupper’s Mayor wants Wal-Mart, and has written them a letter, so we’ll see. I’m not holding my breath. “
Tupper? Plastics? Tupperware? Did the plastics factory close because of Chinese competition? The Idea of putting a Wal*Mart there would be Ironic. Can you drag the Mayor out and put him in one of those Pillory Things?- this framework had holes for the criminal’s head and hands to stick through while they stood up. Once locked in they might get rotten fruit or other items thrown at them. The wrongdoer was condemned to carry out his punishment in rain or shine or freezing weather. I’m sure the out of work factory people would have their spirits lifted. This Mayor sounds like he’s on the political fastrack to nowhere. What’s his name? I’ll put in a good word for him.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 05:41 PM
I think Ken did a link on something similar not too long ago.
http://www.geocities.com/weezus/antichrist.html
Actually, if you Google Sam Walton antichrist you will get over 4,000 results. :o)
We’re going to quit breaking the law. ~ Wal-Mart Regional VP, Larry Williams
Ken V in Texas
Tuesday, August 26 at 06:12 PM
Well Ken,
I’m certainly not suprized! One thing’s for sure Wal*Mart certainly is a Beast! And their PR Team are a bunch of false prophets. Sam Walton Antichrist would be a great name for a Broadway Musical! Sort of like Jesus Christ Superstar, only different. Judas would be the hero and the people in the chorus would be obese and stand around with dumb looks on their faces debating political issues that they don’t understand. Oh and they would be nude except for wooden barrels w/straps for suspenders.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Tuesday, August 26 at 06:46 PM
I see it more as Walton’s Inferno with millions of Borg-like lost souls hauling an infinite pile of cheap Chinese crap from one circle of Hell to the next.
I fell in to a burning ring of fire! ~ Johnny Cash
Ken V in Texas
Wednesday, August 27 at 05:03 AM
When it comes to small and family run businesses they want to KILL the POPS & F**K the MOMS..
Not exactly—it’s more like WM doing that to the “Tescos” of the world (assuming the UFCW hasn’t done it to them, already with their “Fresh & Queasy” web campaign).
Face it Bobby, you’re not really “all that"…
bbrd in
Wednesday, August 27 at 08:37 AM
Love it up there! I went to Cape Cod a couple of months back and was totally disheartened.
I can imagine why ;-)
bbrd in
Wednesday, August 27 at 08:38 AM
Actually, if you Google Sam Walton antichrist you will get over 4,000 results.
I can top that.
Google Ken V Texas antichrist and you’ll get 20,400 results!
bbrd in
Wednesday, August 27 at 08:41 AM
“we are in the process of also putting in a retail size cap here too.” ~Jane in N.Y
It sounds like your community is doing everything right, Jane. The communities that don’t probably wish they had!
ScrewedbyWal-Mart in Anytown, America
Wednesday, August 27 at 09:43 AM
bbrd in
All that wut? Didn’t you like my ode to Jim Morrison?
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Wednesday, August 27 at 11:41 AM
Google Ken V Texas antichrist and you’ll get 20,400 results!
Humility prevents me from Googling myself but I’ll take your word for it.
So according to Mary’s interpretation of search engine results I must be the ANTICHRIST! In which case I’d tread lightly around me or I’ll suck your soul out through your nostrils!!*
*note the plagiarized use of RDS’s double exclamation points. Is nothing sacred?
Ken V in Texas
Wednesday, August 27 at 11:50 AM
Bobby--Ticonderoga has a Wal-Mart. It is just outside the business district, or what is left of the business district. It is a supercenter. The Ticonderoga business district now is mostly empty stores, restaurants, and service businesses. The Ticonderoga politicians actually COURTED WAL-MART!! They wanted them to come. Ticonderoga didn’t have much of a business district before Wal-Mart, but now they really have nothing. And what gets me is how the local politicians and Chamber of Commerce are THRILLED at what has happened since Wal-Mart has come!! Will someone please tell me what is so great about an empty business district? Naturally, Wal-Mart built outside of the business district, so they could become a destination store--which they have. So much for progress.
Tupper Lake is another story. There the Jarden Plastics Factory closed in March. They manufactured plastic silverware such as forks, spoons, etc. By closing 67 people were put out of work. And do you know why they closed? The Jarden folks said they WERE GETTING TOO MUCH COMPETITION FROM OVERSEAS!!
The plastics factory sits on about 15 acres. Nigro Developers out of Albany is interested in purchasing the property. The sale has not gone through yet. Nigro wants to build a large retail development. It is rumored that Wal-Mart is interested in coming. Tupper’s Mayor has already sent Wal-Mart a letter WELCOMING THEM TO TUPPER LAKE! The Mayor feels everyone will benefit. People will shop Wal-Mart and also shop independent stores. The problem is that just never happens as we all know. And isn’t it ironic that one of the companies that probably put Jarden out of business is BEING WELCOMED INTO TOWN?!
A few months ago this site had an article on the Tupper Lake store and it was the site fight of the week. People e-mailed Tupper Lake’s mayor advising him NOT TO BRING WAL-MART TO TOWN. The problem is the approximately 2,500 e-mails were from folks OUT OF TOWN. The major said so in a recent newpaper article and he was NOT SWAYED. He still thinks Wal-Mart would be great for Tupper.
The problem in Tupper Lake is you have to drive over 1 hour away to do any serious shopping. Tupper doesn’t have much in the way of a business district. They do have a Hackett’s Department store--but it is too high priced for many who live there. And unlike our little village where opposition rose immediately--folks in Tupper Lake have remained pretty quiet on this issue. So again, I’m not holding my breath.
In our little village we recently put through a 1 year temporary retail cap. It is 60,000 square feet for one store, and 90,000 square feet for a shopping center. In another year our master land use plan will be ready and it will have a permament retail cap in it. Some folks were pushing for a 40,000 square foot cap for 1 store and 68,000 for a shopping plaza, but those numbers didn’t go through. At any rate, any figure is better than nothing.
Wal-Mart has destroyed Ticonderoga as far as I’m concerned. And they will destroy Tupper Lake if they are allowed to come. Time will tell if they get to come about 15 minutes away from me.
Jane in N.Y. in
Wednesday, August 27 at 12:06 PM
By the way when the retail cap went through it was a 3 to 1 vote. Our Democrats voted for it and the one Republican voted against. And one village board member was absent, but he is Republican so he probably would have voted against it. The one Republican who voted against it felt we were limiting the businesses that could come here. Well, itsn’t that the idea? We want to limit big box stores so we are not anytown USA!
Jane in N.Y. in
Wednesday, August 27 at 12:15 PM
Well Jane,
If we do make it up that way, we won’t be doing any shopping at Wal*Mart. My daughter was interested in Ft. Ticonderoga. We let her stay up late and watch John Adams on HBO and told her all about the place and that we had been there. These comunities need to realize that it is their local charm that will bring tourism and tourist dollars. Nobody want’s to drive 6 hours to see a Wal*Mart. I would suggest a much more creative solution to the retail development that a Wal*Mart for Tupper Lake. I hope that the Mayor is up for re-election soon.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Wednesday, August 27 at 12:52 PM
I don’t know when Mickey Desmarais (I think I spelled his name right) is up for re-election in Tupper Lake,but I don’t think it’s soon.
Speaking of Wal-Mart’s we are beginning to be surrounded by them. The one in Plattsburgh a larger city also has a Sam’s Club, but it has been there for a few years. Recently, they expanded into a supercenter. But Plattsburgh is not in the Adirondacks. Wal-Mart JUST WENT into Potsdam about 1 hour away. I haven’t been there to see it yet. ( I go in to see them, but obviously NOT TO SPEND MONEY.) Potsdam folks did form opposition and had a web site--but they were not successful, unfortunately. Potsdam opposition took the decision to court but they lost. Postdam though is not in the Adirondacks but just outside.
About a year ago Malone got a Wal-Mart. Malone is the county seat here. Malone doesn’t have much for a business district, and it if weren’t for Flemings Fine Furniture there would be NO business district. Everything else is either restaurants, accountants, service businesses, etc. When I made a comment about the Malone Wal-Mart, someone from Malone was on this site reading my comments. They disagreed with me and said since Wal-Mart had arrived in Malone, sixteen businesses had also come. My argument is what kind of businesses did they get?
Malone presently is drowning in fast food, and other kinds of sprawl. Everything and I mean everything is being built outside of the business district. We were there recently, and we considered Malone dead as far as business goes. Friends of mine live there, and they also agree that if it weren’t for Flemmings Furniture store--Malone would have nothing. Getting 16 businesses may be progress to one person but my argument is WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES DID YOU GET? K-Mart, Wal-Mart, MdDonald’s, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts, KFC, Taco Bell and the like is NOT PROGRESS. They make your town anytown USA.
Fortunately, we have people where I live who are out to protect our little village. We are small in number, but we do exist. When Wal-Mart wanted to build a 121,000 square foot store here our opposition formed immediately, and we were successful. We elected 3 Democrats who stopped the rezoning process--and as a result Wal-Mart currently has no place to land here.
The problem we have is that we have no department store here amymore. Ames closed in 2002 if I got my year correct. We do have pro Wal-Mart people here who cry every day that they have no place to shop and have to drive 1 hour away to Plattsburgh. The scuttle butt here is that there is no place to “buy underwear.” We are working on improving shopping here, but unfortunately, it is not fast enough to suit the pro Wal-Mart folks who live here.
People and tourists who come to our little village cannot believe how great we have it. Most have never seen a business district filled with independent stores that are doing well. Unfortunately, this means little to our pro Wal-Mart folks who cry almost every day that they can’t afford to shop here.
At any rate I am thrilled that so far we are not anytown USA!
Jane in N.Y. in
Wednesday, August 27 at 01:27 PM
Bobby--We have tons of small town charm here. It draws tourists from all over. Unfortunately, those who want Wal-Mart complain that they can’t afford to live and shop here. Wal-Mart according to them would have at least made the shopping affordable. My argument to that is “If you want better shopping, and a Wal-Mart, why don’t you move?” Small town charm to these people MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Many who come to visit here are pretty amazed at our little shopping district and village. In many places what we STILL HAVE IS LONG GONE. And once that way of life is gone you can never get it back.
Wal-Mart unfortunately, divided our village. Discussions soon arose between the “have’s” and the “have nots.” But it had nothing to do with that. These folks couldn’t realize that Wal-Mart would have destroyed our current way of life. And then when they discovered that we didn’t have the millions of dollars they were looking for--Wal-Mart would have been gone. I was predicting they would have closed up shop in less than 5 years. And then we would have been left with REALLY NOTHING as many independent businesses here would also have been long gone.
Ken V from Texas has got it right when he signs “What is good for Wal-Mart is bad for America!”
Jane in N.Y. in
Wednesday, August 27 at 03:04 PM
Yeah, It Looks Like a Real Mandate to Me!
According to the vote count in the election last November, it seems Mickey Desmarais has a real mandate to speak for what the residents of Tupper Lake Want. With that many people voting for the other guy, he should be watching his back instead of inviting Wal-Mart into the community!
MAYOR TUPPER LAKE
TIMOTHY J. LARKIN...........405 votes
MICKEY DESMARAIS.........410 votes
ScrewedbyWalMart in Anytown, America
Wednesday, August 27 at 03:15 PM
ScrewedbyWalMart in Anytown, America
& Jane in N.Y
So Wal*Mart would have access to 815 new customers/employees?… I’m sorry but I just don’t see their business model remaining relavant. Greed and Market Saturation… Soon we will have Wal*Mart employees taking turns buying stuff from each other (lol). So they go for a smaller footprint. At that point if a town wanted to compete and get tax dollars there are a million better sollutions. I certainly wouldn’t buy something that I would ingest from them. You might start growing extra limbs or somthing.
Attention Wal*Mart Stock Holders! A Saturated Marketplace with Pissed off consumers = a bad investment. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Wednesday, August 27 at 03:55 PM
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
I’m commenting on my own posts now…
“I certainly wouldn’t buy something that I would ingest from them. You might start growing extra limbs or somthing”. Jane if you go in to Wal-Mart take a look at what walks up and down the isles in the Grocery Dept. I think it may be too late.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Wednesday, August 27 at 03:59 PM
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com)—As things in the economy have gotten worse, the number of people and businesses heading to bankruptcy court has spiked.
Bankruptcy filings surged 29% in the 12 months that ended June 30, according to government figures released Wednesday.
Total filings rose to 967,831 from 751,056 a year earlier.
Business filings jumped more than 41% to 33,822 from 23,889 in the year-ago period. Personal filings totaled 934,009, up 28% from last year.
“As we continue to hear more bad economic news, we will continue to see bankruptcies spiral upwards,” said Jack Williams, resident scholar at the American Bankruptcy Institute.
The bankruptcy group expects filings to reach 1.2 million this year, as problems in the housing market have “reverberated throughout the economy,” he added.
The data also showed that filings for Chapter 7 rose 36% to 615,748 in the 12 months that ended June 30.
Chapter 7 bankruptcy is designed to give individual debtors a “fresh start” by discharging many of their debts. Under Chapter 7 a filer’s assets minus those exempted by his home state are liquidated and given to creditors first in line for repayment, while the rest of his debts are cancelled.
Another type of individual bankruptcy - Chapter 13 - requires debtors to pay back their debts over time. Total Chapter 13 filings rose 17% to 344,421 from 294,693 a year earlier.
Filings for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which is aimed at assisting struggling corporations or partnerships, rose more than 30% to 7,293.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Wednesday, August 27 at 04:43 PM
“I’m commenting on my own posts now…
“I certainly wouldn’t buy something that I would ingest from them. You might start growing extra limbs or somthing”. Bobby~~~~~~~~~ Bobby,you’re a treasure! ROFLMAO!
ddrb in
Wednesday, August 27 at 08:58 PM
ddrb in
ROFLMAO!
Pronounced phonetically that is roughly the sound that your body will make after eating “fresh” Wal*Mart produce, meats, etc.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Wednesday, August 27 at 11:30 PM
Soon we will have Wal*Mart employees taking turns buying stuff from each other. ~ Bobby
KEEPER!
but as we all remember from the Stan Cox article:
Wal-Mart Wages Don’t Support Wal-Mart Workers
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/16111/wal-mart_wages_dont_support_wal-mart_workers/
I don’t think someone getting a good deal on toilet paper at Walmart is, through their purchase, endorsing Walmart’s business practices. ~ Greg Spotts
Ken V in Texas
Thursday, August 28 at 06:10 AM
“Wal-Mart Wages Don’t Support Wal-Mart Workers”
2008 HHS Poverty Guidelines
Persons in Family or Household 48 Contiguous
States and D.C.
1 - $10,400
2 - $14,000
3 - $17,600
4 - $21,200
5 - $24,800
6 - $28,400
7 - $32,000
8 - $35,600
For each additional person, add $3,600
SOURCE: Federal Register, Vol. 73, No. 15, January 23, 2008, pp. 3971–3972
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/08poverty.shtml
Seems by these government figures, Wal-Mart employees make more than “poverty wages”!!
RDS in
Thursday, August 28 at 11:48 PM
If you read the Cox column, RDS, you’ll see he wasn’t talking about abstracts like ‘poverty’ or ‘living wage’. Instead a single mother with two children tried to get by on Wal-Mart wages.
Could one person afford to live in one of your rent houses with an annual income of $10,400?
“I found myself laughing as I groveled along the floor from shelf-case to shelf-case looking for a useable size.” ~ Richard, Wal-Mart shopper and PFB letter writer.
Ken V in Texas
Friday, August 29 at 06:21 AM
Today marks three Anniversaries that may be worth noting:
Aug 29 1994
The Orange County Register breaks the story that China has been harvesting organs from executed prisoners prior to their executions. What’s more, executions are scheduled according to organ transplant priorities.
Aug 29 1996
Dick Morris, the top political adviser to President Bill Clinton and also a married man, resigns abruptly after the Star reveals his long-term relationship with a Washington prostitute. Morris had divulged secret White House information to Sherry Rowlands, even allowing the hooker to secretly listen in on some of his telephone conversations with the President.
Aug 29 2005
Category 3 storm Hurricane Katrina attacks the Gulf coast with 145-mph winds. Cities in Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi are declared disaster areas. Parts of New Orleans are submerged, some residents are left to scramble to their rooftops awaiting rescue. News organizations report widespread panic and looting, crowds abandoned on elevated freeways, and rumors of rape in the Superdome.
Bobby in New York, Kentucky, Los Angeles
Friday, August 29 at 09:50 AM
“Could one person afford to live in one of your rent houses with an annual income of $10,400?”
I have 1 apartment, that rents for $3600.00 a year ($300.00 a month), utilities paid, so I believe that a single person could live on $6400.00 a year, after rent and utilities, they may not be able to live like a high income person, but I believe they could get by, if they watched their spending!! Is $10,000.00 what an average Wal-Mart worker makes? Low end, full time - ($7.00 x 35 x 52 = $12,740.00)!!
RDS in
Friday, August 29 at 11:36 AM
..full time..
That’s the trick now, isn’t it?
What’s good for Wal-Mart is BAD for America!
Ken V in Texas
Friday, August 29 at 01:52 PM
Ken V:"That’s the trick now, isn’t it?~~~~~~~ An EASY trick,for a “master illusionist “.
ddrb in
Saturday, August 30 at 10:12 AM
Actually, it’s a lot easier at Walmart than it is at most of its union couterparts, and if you’re only part time no one says that you can’t get a second part time job if you need the money.
Dave in
Monday, September 01 at 09:52 AM
“ but I believe they could get by, if they watched their spending!!"~Bob(RDS)
If one could get by if they watched their spending then why does Lee Scott not live by the same principles as he makes his subjects live by?
R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
R E M E M B E R
J A C K S O N V I L L E
T E X A S
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
Alex in Ontario, Canada
Monday, September 01 at 12:13 PM
Alex,
“If one could get by if they watched their spending then why does Lee Scott not live by the same principles as he makes his subjects live by?”
First, they are not “his subjects”, they are Wal-Mart’s employees and they are FREE to move on any time they choose!! Second, is the fact that Lee Scott’s job is at a different LEVEL to the other employees!! I would bet, that Lee could on any given day push carts from the parking lot, but on that same day, a cart pusher couldn’t run the Company!! Your arguement falls short, just as if you asked why a ‘heart surgeon’ makes so much more money than a hospital laundry worker!! Lee Scott makes more money than the common associate, because he can do things at the management level, that the common associate can’t and those things could be 1,000 times more important to the health of the company, than retreiving carts from the parking lot or putting cans on a shelf!!
All one has to do, is look at other companies, for example: Aldi’s doesn’t have cart retrievers and they don’t stock shelves there, they just haul out a pallet and put it into place, therefore, they need less employees to provide the same level of service!! It’s just as easy for a customer to pull a can from a box, as it is to take it off a shelf!! Wal-Mart employees should be glad that the company creates as many jobs as they do, because they don’t really have to!!
RDS in
Monday, September 01 at 12:52 PM
RDS: Wal-Mart employees should be glad that the company creates as many jobs as they do, because they don’t really have to!!
RDS in~~~~~~~~~~~~~~RDS, why is it that WalMart HASN’T followed Aldi’s example of LESS employees, unLESS the FACT is WalMart NEEDS the employees as much or more than the WalMart employees need the jobs?
ddrb in
Monday, September 01 at 02:48 PM
So why should anyone on the SS Walmart boat have to live like they are going to drown any second when captain Lee sits on his decadent wealth?
It is a sick world Bob and you help keep it that way.
R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
R E M E M B E R
J A C K S O N V I L L E
T E X A S
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
Alex in Ontario, Canada
Alex in Ontario, Canada
Monday, September 01 at 07:07 PM
ddrb,
“RDS, why is it that WalMart HASN’T followed Aldi’s example of LESS employees, unLESS the FACT is WalMart NEEDS the employees as much or more than the WalMart employees need the jobs?”
You tell me!! If Aldi’s could do it, why couldn’t Wal-Mart? Think about that for a minute!! Does Wal-Mart REALLY need greeters? Other stores don’t have them!! Does Wal-Mart REALLY need people giving out samples? And, I’d bet, that if Wal-Mart ever becomes unionized, you would see many people losing their jobs!!
Alex,
“So why should anyone on the SS Walmart boat have to live like they are going to drown any second when captain Lee sits on his decadent wealth?”
It’s a fact, that anyone on the SS Wal-Mart boat, isn’t forced to be there, if they were afraid of drowning, they shouldn’t have signed up for the cruise, besides, have you ever heard, that the captain goes down with a sinking ship? Luckily, Wal-Mart isn’t sinking!!
RDS in
Monday, September 01 at 11:51 PM
“anyone on the SS Wal-Mart boat, isn’t forced to be there..."~Bob(RDS)
The old take it or leave it behaviour from Bob.
That belief system is why some workplaces MUST join a union. To have a say in their workplace.
It’s happening Bob. Walmart is NOT proud to be union free.
Walmart has unions in other countries now it is on your doorstep. No matter what it will keep happening.
R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
R E M E M B E R
J A C K S O N V I L L E
T E X A S
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse
Alex in Ontario, Canada
Tuesday, September 02 at 05:48 AM
Alex,
You still didn’t answer the question I posed, “What would Wal-Mart employees GAIN, by having a union”? If Wal-Mart has fought hard to keep unions out, do you think they are just going to ‘roll over and play dead’, if one gets in? I’m not against Wal-Mart employees getting a union, but, only if they really want one and they can GAIN something from it!! I would rather see them get a smaller union, that isn’t trying to ‘kill’ Wal-Mart like the UFCW is!!
And, do you really think a union can have any effect on Lee Scott’s pay? Any pay raises would come from ‘higher prices’ (which will affect sales) or ‘cutbacks’ in the employment level (elimination of some positions)!! Just look at what is going on at Ford and GM!!
RDS in
Tuesday, September 02 at 11:06 AM
“ Any pay raises would come from ‘higher prices’ (which will affect sales) or ‘cutbacks’ in the employment level (elimination of some positions)!! Just look at what is going on at Ford and GM!!"~Bob(RDS)
Give us the details Bob.
Thanks in advance.
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Alex in Ontario, Canada
Wednesday, September 03 at 07:17 PM
How about this question Bob(RDS)
“What would Wal-Mart executives GAIN, by NOT having a union”?
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Alex in Ontario, Canada
Wednesday, September 03 at 08:02 PM
“ Any pay raises would come from ‘higher prices’ (which will affect sales) or ‘cutbacks’ in the employment level (elimination of some positions)!!"~Bob(RDS)
So you are suggesting that the lower a workers pay, the better off they are?
Use your head for more than a hat rack Bob.
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Alex in Ontario, Canada
Thursday, September 04 at 04:27 AM
Alex,
“So you are suggesting that the lower a workers pay, the better off they are?”
Is that what I said? All I said, is that raises have consequences and have to come from somewhere!!
For example: Have you heard about the upcoming Boeing machinist strike? They are refusing a 5% raise the first year and 3% raises for the next two years!! By doing this, the company would lose about $100 million a day, and could possibly lose some of their Dreamliner orders and the Fueling tanker contract that is in the bidding process!! If they lost some of those contracts, how would that help retain jobs!! As these are already ‘high’ paying jobs, a 5% raise would probably be about $2.00+ an hour, but, somehow that isn’t ‘good’ enough for them!!
What is better, 10 people making $30.00 an hour and 30 people on unemployment or 40 people making $15.00 an hour? Isn’t it easier when there are four people doing a job, rather than one? Don’t forget, the more you are paid, the more work that is expected from you (why pay more, for the same amount of work?)!!
And, how much good, does it do, if your customers shop elsewhere, because your store’s prices are too high and jobs get cut because of it?
RDS in
Thursday, September 04 at 08:57 PM
...somehow that isn’t ‘good’ enough for them!!...
That’s why they call it bargaining.
“There are a lot of issues here, but what they add up to is the end of the age of Wal-Mart,” contends Richard Hastings, a senior analyst for the retail rating agency Bernard Sands. “The glory days are over.”
Ken V in Texas
Friday, September 05 at 06:52 AM
Wal-Mart is in the business of screwing the American people for their own benefit. They sell very few, if any, products made in USA. Most of their products are made in China. They operate for their own profit without regard for the American people. They are the definition of republican. It’s as simple as that. I refuse to shop there. PS. The Wal-Marts in China provide health insurance, but the Wal-Marts in America do not.
Rich Rau in Wen, WA
Friday, September 05 at 05:42 PM
Jane in NY,
I envy you & your town. We have a huge Wal-mart, but they want to make it a “mega” wal-mart. Yes, twice as big. Unfortunately the mayors for the east & west sides of town are greedy republicans and agreed to the expansion (possibly with a bonus?).
Rich Rau in Wen, WA
Friday, September 05 at 05:58 PM
hi
If everyone would BOYCOTT the stores and not give them our hard earned money maybe they will get the message but we keep shopping in Walmart so its us who are to blame
I think a BOYCOTT should be organized to happen in all the states as we can get to work this and we will be heard So lets think about that and come up with a plan to BOYCOTT WALMART ON THE SAME DAY WE COULD MAKE HISTORY PEOPLE LETS FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS
terresa in Stroudsburg PA
Saturday, September 06 at 08:57 AM
Thanks for heads-up. I haven’t shopped at mall wart and sam’s club for 11 years now, and will definitely watch for any sign of market wrecker, ehm, marketside, here in Pueblo CO. We are unfortunate to have two of the large supercenters here, where sheeple flock to save a dime per shopping session and spend $100 on the welfare and health care of the mall wart’s workers. The love of mall warts here is so big, they will joyously flock to the marketsides for their share of cheap chinese made plastic crap and poisonous edibles - nothing one can do, really. I already foresee marketsides running the few remaining mama n’papa’s type businesses out. Sad day for America.
BTW: which presidential candidate is showered with money by mall wart? Just curious…
Marge in Pueblo CO
Saturday, September 06 at 10:25 AM
You posted incorrect link, it should be: http://www.marketside.com
Kathleen Lawrence in Calif
Saturday, September 06 at 04:01 PM
“ Don’t forget, the more you are paid, the more work that is expected from you (why pay more, for the same amount of work?)!!~Bob (RDS)
So the work level must be very light at Walmart since they are paid so low to the absolute minimum?
Interesting Bob.
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Alex in Ontario, Canada
Saturday, September 06 at 11:19 PM
Argh!! Wal-Mart is over the top-- I don’t know what they think when they do this: Don’t they release that any some number of years they will ugly-ize our country and kill the soul of America?? I mean, here in Wintergarden there is charm. But when Wal-Mart came along a some years ago, it ‘ghettofied’ our pretty little community. Wal-Mart draws the ‘dregs’ of society into it’s slimy grasp… disgusting. And now with these sneaky little ‘Marketside’ stores what will we do? Luckily there still may be a chance for Wintergarden/Grovland/Casselberry. If you live in these areas, please help me in my dire quest to stop Wal-Mart! I can’t do much on my own, so email me!! I couldn’t stand to see another SuperCenter from Hell in my neighborhood.
Kiersten in Wintergarden, FL
Sunday, September 07 at 11:16 AM
But when Wal-Mart came along some years ago, it ‘ghettofied’ our pretty little community.
That, Kiersten in Wintergarden, FL, is what’s known around here as a Keeper! Thank you.
Here’s an example of another:
I don’t think someone getting a good deal on toilet paper at Walmart is, through their purchase, endorsing Walmart’s business practices. ~ Greg Spotts
Ken V in Texas
Sunday, September 07 at 11:28 AM
Wal*Mart is coming after our parents businesses. What a greedy bunch of *!!!!! I’m still waiting for their chain of funeral homes. Cosco is already selling coffins and the population is aging.... $10.00 says they start in the next 5 years.. anybody? Or should that be their new slogan “Any Body”?
Bring out your dead!!!!
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Monday, September 08 at 04:57 PM
Any*Body
Wal*Corpse
Grave*Mart
of course we all know that they’ll offer a special wher they pre-strip the bones at a rolled back rate, and make petfood out of the remains.
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Monday, September 08 at 05:01 PM
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