Hillary Clinton Takes Heat for Past Wal-Mart Support

Hey, mud wrestling with Hillary and the ultimate WalMart stigmata against her from a ‘republican’ nominee. If the ‘Huckster’ makes it, this could be the WalMart bashing demolition derby of all time. The great god of television amusements might smile upon us yet.

WalMart- We even make politicians need aroma stink therapy.

The only thing Hillary has going for herself is she is better than what we’ve got now. Enough of the Bushs, enough of the Clintons, enough of Arkansas!

No mas!

“Our free market was never meant to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it.” ~ Barack Obama

who cares big deal.

A Blast From the Past… Now More True Than Ever

Time for me to dig up some comments I made as far back as February 2006.

“Don’t forget that it was Bill Clinton who layed the foundation for the mess we are in today, by vigorously championing NAFTA and supporting permanent normal trade relations with China. I think more than anything else, NAFTA was the opening of “Pandora’s Box” when it comes to trade policy in this country.

And Hillary Clinton? For God’s sake! If that woman gets the nod as the Democratic candidate in 2008… It’s OVER! She IS NOT electable! Then I believe the Dems are in a more pathetic and despearte state of mind than I previously imagined. All the Dems have to do is find someone with half a brain to beat George Bush. But better still, why can’t we find that rare Independent candidate, who can talk some sense into both the Democrats and the Republicans and shake up the status quo in Washington?”

Edwards still has a very tiny window especially if this bickering between Clinton and Obama continue.  I agree with you Ken, much better options than what we have in there now!

I hope some of the idiots my husband works with are not registered to vote.  They are so misinformed they actually believe Romney is from Utah and Obama is Muslim.

“Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.”
Shaw

And What If He Was...?

To anyone that would have a problem with it, I gotta ask… what if Obama said he was a Muslim?

In certain parts of this world, when the United States invades a country or flexes it’s military might around the world and couples it with the phrase “God Bless America,” it sounds about the same to a Muslim as “Allahu Akbar,” sounds to most Americans.

Screwedby:"I gotta ask...what if Obama said he was a Muslim?” I gotta say that I seriously doubt he would be a presidential candidate in this election cycle.

They are so misinformed...

Sounds like the same bunch that wouldn’t vote for Gore because he was going to “take away our guns”.

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. ~ Adolph Hitler

Yes Ken, those would be the same guys...lol!

Both my husband and my father love their guns but not enough to ever vote Republican!

ddrb, you can bet that if Obama does get the nomination the swiftboaters will be working overtime to make the Muslim connection.  Republican groups like the one in Clark County, WA is already falsely reporting that he is Muslim.

Screwedby,

“Then I believe the Dems are in a more pathetic and despearte state of mind than I previously imagined”

So, you are starting to see the light, hey?  Fact is, the Dems went off track about 30 years ago!!

“what if Obama said he was a Muslim?”

He did say he was, but has changed to Christian, but, then again, can a religious leopard ‘really’ change his spots?

“All the Dems have to do is find someone with half a brain”

But, they are still looking!!  Maybe YOU should have run!!

And, I loved Mitt Romney’s comment, “Think what it would be like if Bill Clinton were back in the White House, with nothing to do”, watch out interns!!

RDS: “But then again,can a religious leopard ‘really’ change his spots? Uh,er,um,isn’t that EXACTLY the Christian Evangelical message of being being “born again “in the Spirit? The central theology of Christianity is redemption through Jesus Christ,correct? As axn in Big City said to you yesterday,RDS, your view of life is so small, so very ,very small and self-righteous.

Obama has never stated he was once a Muslim.  This is the stuff of urban legends.  Check out this link if you really want to know more about it.  His birth father was Muslim and his mom was actually an Atheist.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Also find it interesting you would quote Romney in the same post where you speak about leopards changing their spots...LOL!  How many times has he flipped on some key issues.  Why one day he supports choice and marches in gay pride parades and then the next?

RDS: BTW, Wasn’t changing “one’s spots” the frontispiece in George W. Bush’s courting of the Religious Right back in 2000? That he was a changed man ,born again? Why is the idea of a “conversion” more acceptable from Bush,yet not Obama?

“Also find it interesting you would quote Romney...”

RDS is quoting Romney because “his man,” Ron Paul isn’t on the radar and hasn’t said anything worth quoting!

Cori, you’ve been here long enough to know that if there is an authority on “leopards changing their spots,” it would be RDS himself.

He sees only what’s convenient for himself and what will fit his narrow view of the world.  Notice how he’s evaded the topic of Wal-Mart forcing its major suppliers to adopt RFID technology.  He doesn’t have a problem with that, but he DOES have a problem if anyone wants to “force” Wal-Mart to lead the way when it comes to recycling.

Corgi and Screwed:” We have just enough religion to make us hate,but not enough to make us love, one another.” Jonathan Swift.

Screwedby,

When did you ever hear me say that Ron Paul was “My Man”?  I know I did say that I agreed with some of the things he says!!  Just because I mention someone’s name, doesn’t equate to “He’s my man”!!

“Notice how he’s evaded the topic of Wal-Mart forcing its major suppliers to adopt RFID technology.”

You had better learn to read, I said, that Wal-Mart cannot ‘Force’ anyone to do anything they don’t want to do, they can always walk away, like Toro did, I evaded nothing!!  The suppliers who sign on, just know that this will be good for business!!

From the Daily Tech article:

“RFID already has a bad rap largely due to the unsavory prospects of human implantation, possibly by employer coercion.  There is a significant public wariness to the technology, which largely stems from these issues, which unfortunately causes people to often overlook its practical business uses.

By using RFID tags during shipping, pallets of goods can easily be located, identified and tracked as they move across the country.  This can lead to great cost savings while enhancing the supply chain.”

As for Obama, you showed my point, a polititian will say anything you want to hear, to get elected!!

Corgi,

Check out Obama’s church site, Trinity United Church of Christ, which states that it’s allegiance is to, “We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, is a person who’s allegiance is to Africa, really the person you want as President of the United States?

RDS: Speaking of History Channel,I recently saw a program about the origins of the human race,by tracing DNA. They deduced that we ALL originated from the mother continent of Africa-eons ago.

He doesn’t have a problem with that, but he DOES have a problem if anyone wants to “force” Wal-Mart to lead the way when it comes to recycling.

Guess what?

I just returned from my local WM and guess what?  They are not only selling these reusable shopping bags for a buck, but they also have a recycling bin for the plastic bags.

Sorry, Mr. Screwed—you keep flapping your gums, but noone’s listening to you—AGAIN!!

Your Point Was What, bbrd?

Are the blog comments moving too fast for you, bbrd?

The only person gumming us to death has been RDS.  You’re gaining on him fast though.

It was RDS who was complaining about Wal-Mart having to be in the “recycling business.”

“Hello, Wal-Mart is a Retail Chain, now you want them to become a Reclaimation Center and Recycling Center!!  What’s next, Trash Collection?  Sounds like a better job for the recycling centers already in existence!!”
RDS in
Thursday, January 24 at 05:39 PM

Screwedby,

Can’t you understand the difference between, doing something ‘voluntarily’ and being ‘forced’ to something?  Wal-Mart is not being ‘forced’ to recycle the plastic bags, they ‘choose’ to and maybe they might ‘choose’ to recycle the bulbs too, some day!!  But, you think that Wal-Mart should say to itself, “Screwedby said we need to do something, so we had better hop to it, after all, he’s in charge of the world, isn’t he?”!!

BTW:  Does Target or Costco recycle these bulbs?

“Does Target or Costco recycle these bulbs?”

Like with almost everything else, they soon would if Wal-Mart was leading the way!

When are you and people like matt v going to get over using your famous “defenses of Wal-Mart"-- “nobody else is doing it”, or “everybody else is doing it too?”

You’re just not convincing, RDS.

This link goes on further from CSM’s post about Obama not being Muslim and includes falsehoods about his Church.  See RDS trying to spin on about Obama’s church now that Muslim myth has been debunked.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

Better Observer:Here,here-give that person a cigar!But to refer back to the original thread,I was trying to remember about Hillary and a returned WalMart campaign contributions. According to an AP (Associated Press) story,Mrs.Clinton’s Senate campaign returned $5000 to a W/M pac while citing differences with the company. But, a blind trust held jointly by the Clintons included WalMart holdings up until 2007,when the contents of this blind trust wer liquidated. Ostensibly,because these investments could pose conflicts of interest or prove embarrassing,according to the AP writer,Nedra Pickles. So, depending upon one’s mindset, it could be argued that the differences between Hillary Clinton and WalMart policies weren’t offensive enough to distance or divulge themselves from the $ profits until it was politically expedient to do so.

P.S. The $5000 Senate contribution ,that was returned, was in 2006.

Looks like South Carolina LOVES Obama!

I think that Obama is going to make a GREAT president and Edward will make a GREAT VP, and in 8 years Edwards will make a GREAT President himself.

Screwedby in: “ Can’t you understand the difference between doing something “voluntarily”,and being “forced” to do something?"RDS Screwed,wasn’t that YOUR point exactly,about the suppliers ??

Big D: Heard that the New York Times will publish,in tomorrow’s edition,Caroline Kennedy Schlosser’s endorsement of Obama.(That’s JFK’ daughter.)

Screwedby,

“Like with almost everything else, they soon would if Wal-Mart was leading the way!”

So, you are saying that the others are like sheep, afraid to do something BEFORE Wal-Mart does, right?  No wonder they can’t compete!!  To compete, you have to be ahead of the game, not following!!

ddrb,

“Screwed,wasn’t that YOUR point exactly,about the suppliers ??”

Guess you don’t understand either!!  Screwedby said Wal-Mart was ‘forcing’ their suppliers to do things, my point was that Wal-Mart ‘forces’ no one to do anything, because suppliers can always say “NO” and sell only to Wal-Mart’s competitors!!  Think about it, if half of Wal-Mart’s suppliers left Wal-Mart and sold ONLY to the others, how much Wal-Mart’s business would diminish and the other’s would flourish!!  That’s known as true competition (Capitalism)!!

“my point was that Wal-Mart ‘forces’ no one to do anything” ~RDS

Oh Really?

If suppliers can “voluntarily choose” to use RFID tagging, how come words like “mandate” and “comply” are being used?  According to Websters, a mandate is “an authoritative command.” If Wal-Mart isn’t forcing its suppliers, why the $3.00 pallet charge for companies that “don’t comply?”

Oh Screwed, how simple minded you can be (again).  “Mandate” and “Comply” won’t be in a supplier’s vocabulary if they just say NO I will not do it and Walmart accepts it or they say SEE YA and just walk away from Walmart as a purchaser of their goods.  Can’t be any easier than that.  I think RDS is on to something.  Get 50% of suppliers to say they won’t do business with Walmart but only with their competitors and it would put a real hurting on Walmart.

“Think about it, if half of Wal-Mart’s suppliers left Wal-Mart and sold ONLY to the others, how much Wal-Mart’s business would diminish and the other’s would flourish!!  That’s known as true competition (Capitalism)!!”

Having trouble saying that in Chinese huh RDS?

It is not difficult for the WalMart worship crowd to quickly forget that 80% of WalMart’s junk comes from China. With all the prison labor and indentured servitude going on over there they are no doubt eager to say ‘no’ to WalMart funding the Chinese Communist Party.
That’s known as true exploitation opportunism (Monopolism)!!

“I think RDS is on to something.”
mary, the other WalMart worship imbecile

Translation: Fantasyland with RDS is the economic wet dream of my junkie fix WalMart polluted propaganda life in materialistic/consumerism addiction world.

“Money swore an oath that nobody that did not love it should not have it.”
Irish Proverb

Screwed by : In relation to the required vs. voluntary discussion,I was under the impression that many suppliers and vendors have contracts for their goods with W/M-walking away may not be an option. This entire exercise in just walking away,just saying no seems silly to me. Most of these vendors fight like hell to get these accounts,and keep them,or go broke. The one with the take it or leave it attitude is WalMart,who has no such reservation about not honoring contracts(Remember Sick of WAlMart’s friend with the jackets?) SDV:According to what I recently read, effective January1 of this year,China began demanding higher wages and better working conditions and benefits for its workers- which will result in higher costt of goods- Vietnam is predicted to be the next hotspot for low wage ,low cost goods.(The Chinese and WalMart have already formed a partnership re:  RFID, I posted about it in the RFID thread.)

Looks like Obama has picked up even more momentum, it seems that Sen. Ted Kennedy and PRESIDENT Gore are throwing their support to Obama.

“PRESIDENT Gore”

Still living in FantasyLand I see Big D.  And by all means keep “worshiping” Big Al and his fleecing of the “green” world as he laughs all the way to the bank.  The stupidity continues.

“Most of these vendors fight like hell to get these accounts,and keep them,or go broke”

If it is so bad and not cost effective to deal with Walmart then why do it?  You can’t have it both ways ddrb.  And bringing into the conversation a post from months ago about SickofWalmart’s friend and Walmart not honering his contract..... we still never did get to the bottom on that one because there were so many holes in his story.  The only mark SickofWalmart left on this site was the profanity laced posts when questioned.

Mary:Where did I say it was so bad and not cost effective to deal with WalMArt in my post? I mentioned the possibility of contractual obligations that could determine “choice” vs. requirement. WalMart’s dictatorship regarding vendors has a long and documented history.Remember Vlasic pickles-WalMart’s demand that they be sold in huge ,enormous jars-thereby rendering no profit to Vlasic at all? What about Tupperware?  What about the recent dictum that all bottles of cleaning supplies be shrunk-even if you don’t shop WalMart,the mark is there. Many vendor horror stories on the Internet. BTW_If you want to talk about “Green Fleece”,how about the $1.6 Golden Fleece award to the citizens of N.W. Arkansas where WalMart,Tyson’s and J.B.Hunt are requesting eminent domain and taxing authority to build bypasses atPUBLIC expense(no private citizens requesting this) to benefit THEIR profit margins?Didn’t “libertarian” post a while back that the less taxes a government takes,the better? It seems to me the one who wants it both ways is you,Mary.The Free Market sure will get a lot more costlier for those folks up in N.W.Arkansa!(Go to page one of blogroll-"Want to help poor people-Don’t build WalMarts"thread.)

P.S. : THAT’S A $1.6 BILLION DOLLAR “GOLDEN FLEECE “AWARD!

Let’s Talk About Being “Simpleton-Minded,” mary...

You’re more naive than Nancy “just say no” Reagan, mary!  You see how easy it is to “just say no”.  The drug problem is alive and well in America.

Of course words like “mandate” and “comply” aren’t in the vocabulary of suppliers to Wal-Mart.  That’s because it’s in Wal-Mart’s lexicon.

You’re a disappointment mary. (again) I was giving you a little more credit than this…

“I think RDS is on to something.”

RDS couldn’t be “onto” his own rear end even if he used both hands and a full length mirror!

And to make it worse, you add:

“Get 50% of suppliers to say they won’t do business with Walmart...”

Oh...you mean like a “boycott of Wal-Mart” by suppliers?  I like that!  OK, I’ll throw you a bone and give you some bonus points, however....

it would NEVER happen.  The love of money and the insatiable capitalistic drive for ever-increasing profits would dictate otherwise.  There are far too many big suppliers to Wal-Mart that fundamentally are not much different than the Beast itself.  For this to happen, it would require some kind of spontaneous and collective conversion of all those “good capitalists.” They would have to develop some semblance of a social conscience.

What corporation or company would be willing to make the first move and potentially lose business to a competitor? There will always going to be businesses out there that are willing to whore their wares to Wal-Mart to make another buck or two.

I can see now why you thought RDS “was onto something,” mary.  You’re almost as obtuse as he is.  Notice how I’m still giving you the benefit of the doubt?

Screwedby:"For this to happen would require some kind of spontaneous and collective conversion...” The world is anxiously awaiting for the ‘Free Market hundreth monkey”.

Screwed

It looks like the individual companies need to unionize against Wal-Mart.

They need to start the UCDWWM (united companies dealing with Wal-Mart) union. It may have to come to that to deal with the Beast and still make a profit.

Mary: For all you do,this one’s for you."The Wall Street Journal reported that in the mid 1990’s the athletic shoemaker L.A. Gear took a nasty sales hit when WalMart cheaped out on a vendor contract. WalMart had made an agreement to buy at least $80 million worth of merchandise from L.A.Gear.Instead,the Journal reported that W/M bought only $45 million worth.”

ddrb, you rant and rave about how bad it can be to be a supplier to Walmart but the in same breath say “Most of these vendors fight like hell to get these accounts,and keep them,or go broke.” So do companies want to supply Walmart or don’t they?

As for your post on L.A. Gear.... and your telling me what?.... that Walmart reneged on a legal contract?  I’ll ask the same questions that I asked of SickOfWalmart.  Was there a contractual relationship?  Did Walmart violate that agreement?  Did LA. Gear process any type of legal action against Walmart for violating a contract?  Was there no legal agreement but instead some type of projection from Walmart that they wanted to purchase $80m in shoes but instead purchased only $45m?  Where’s the rest of the story?

Mary:What’s it to you ? Why are you so intent on defending WalMart ? It was reported in the Wall Street Journal. You wanna know more,oursue it yourself. This is not a deposition,and you sure as hell aren’t my interrogator.As for vendors motivations ,that is subjective,I would suggest that they be well apprised that “You don’t dance with the devil and expect to pick the tune.” And ,incidentally,ou would be far more effective if you learned to finesse your questions,than to so ungraciously DEMAND answers.

ddrb,

“What about Tupperware?”

What about Tupperware?  When did they start selling through Wal-Mart?  Just an example of a company that doesn’t have to deal with Wal-Mart to exist, I’ve heard they aren’t doing all that bad either!!

“If you want to talk about “Green Fleece”,how about the $1.6 Golden Fleece award to the citizens of N.W. Arkansas where WalMart,Tyson’s and J.B.Hunt are requesting eminent domain and taxing authority to build bypasses atPUBLIC expense(no private citizens requesting this) to benefit THEIR profit margins?”

Gee, what are you talking about, I live in NW Arkansas and somehow I missed hearing about how this bypass is for Tyson, Wal-Mart, and J.B. Hunt, guess us citizens are the last to know!!  This bypass you are talking about was NEEDED, as the traffic situation has increased in the area, because of population increase!!  Besides, the only unit of Tyson’s that will benefit from this, is the International Headquarters traffic, as they are tripling in size, but, I see no benefit to their profit margins, only a benefit to the citizens in better traffic flow on Johnson Road, 71B, and Hwy 412!!

mary,

True anti Wal-Mart tactics, ddrb, makes a statement and when you ask her to defend it, she asks, “What’s it to you ?” and tells you to defend it for her!!  All Fluff, but short on FACTS!!

Mary:  If you want an inventory of unaddresed issues,how about answering my question about the tax writeoffs WalMart would get off the health policies they’ve been touting.You and I went round and round on another thread,and you never did address that. What I simply cannot reconcile is 1.) the FACT that you consider yourself so superior-said so yourself-,No union could afford to ever pay me what I’m worth,you said2.) You are so much a capitalist ,yet you waste valuable time,that you could be making money, on this blog-arguing with those whom you call imbeciles and simpletons. Now ,logically,who is the simpleton?If you are so smart,and ambitious ,why are you here?Well,some of us may or may not be dumb,but why do you care what simpletons think about WalMart?

P.S. : Or about any other subject for that matter. Just come here to get a false sense of superiority?

“What’s it to you ? Why are you so intent on defending WalMart ?”

ddrb, and you’ve been posting here for how long and you STILL DON’T GET IT!  Let me set a couple of facts straight for you AGAIN.

1.  I COULD CARE LESS if Walmart sinks or swims.  I care about defending the free market system we have today.  On this site Walmart just happens to be the poster child for class envy.

2.  On this site and in many other areas in my life that I have experienced I’m sick and tired of the pure crap and outright deception, half-truths and lies that are put forward as being “fact”.  Your statement about L.A. Gear is a perfect example.  Where did you find that little tidbit of information?  Could it be from another anti-walmart book?  Could the author have some type of bias against Walmart?  Maybe the author only told half the story so it fit his agenda?  Did the author also mention that the agreement was voided because L.A. Gear failed to meet sales targets “that would ensure an ongoing purchase committment” from Walmart?  Bottom line, the shoes were not selling.  Walmart fullfilled its end of the agreement but somehow Walmart “WalMart cheaped out on a vendor contract”. 

There’s no need to “finesse” my questions.  I’ll call anyone out with hard line questions if what I see doesn’t add up.  I don’t ask for much… just the truth and the complete truth.  In this case you’re the one who gets called out for posting pure bunk!

Wow, getting testy again ddrb?

“answering my question about the tax writeoffs WalMart would get off the health policies they’ve been touting.You and I went round and round on another thread,and you never did address that”

I certainly don’t remember that thread but are you suggesting that Walmart gets tax writeoffs for health policies that other businesses don’t get?

“the FACT that you consider yourself so superior-said so yourself-,No union could afford to ever pay me what I’m worth,you said2.) You are so much a capitalist ,yet you waste valuable time,that you could be making money, on this blog-arguing with those whom you call imbeciles and simpletons”

If you take a look at what I said it’s that I DON’T NEED A UNION to tell me what my worth is and I’m worth a whole bunch more than what they offer.  And yes that statement still stands.  You said it yourself.  I am a capitalist.  Who says I’m not making money even while right in the middle of writing on this blog?  Maybe I am that good of a capitalist.  As for the “imbeciles and simpletons” comment… well there you go again making up statements.  Go ahead, tell me where I have called people those names.  You’re really getting good at the lies and half-truths now.

Mary: You can keep “calling out” till the cows come home!A smart capitalist will not sit here and debate with intellectually impoverished imbeciles unless there’s a $ payoff for them. BTW, I asked some questions,too,that have yet to be answered. But your arrogance dictates that others MUST submit to YOUR Inquisitionary tactics. You may be a legend in your own mind,in your deluded Ivory Tower, but I am most certainly not your serf or minion. Seems you don’t feel obligated to answer any questions put to you-oh,I forgot royalty makes its OWN rules!

Mary: WHY DO YOU CARE???

Mary: Robert Fineman says when we make the comments about ourselves,we’ve undermined our arguments. He’s right. But this tactic of yours to demean others(individuals) is not new. There are many references to simpleton and imbecile-Unless there’s more than one person writing under the name Mary,there was a post just yesterday on another thread. I do not believe your position that you are defending capitalism in general-you can go elsewhere to do that.I DO believe you’re making money while doing it,though,here on this blog.

ddrb, obviously you have realized in life that $ doesn’t always make the world go around.  So you’re pretty much of the mark as to why I’m here because it’s certainly not for $.

Here’s your shot again.... what questions did I not answer?  I’ve certainly been more of an open book than you.

Here we go again ddrb… please show me where I have ever used the words “simpleton” and “imbecile” to describe anyone.  I’d check with SDV because “imbecile” appears in his posts regularly.  And you call me arrogant?  HA

“I do not believe your position that you are defending capitalism in general”.  And in your own mind if that’s what you want to believe then so be it but I tell it like it is.  Sorry if the truth hurts.

Mary: Firstly,You are not in a position to PROVIDE me a “shot”,OK? I don’t require your permission as to when I may or may not CHOOSE to either answer a question or make a point. You are a book I can choose to pick up and lay down at will-some of the chapters aren’t even worth reading.

ddrb, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?  OK, OK… you can CHOOSE to answer that question or not and you certainly don’t need my permission to answer.  I know… I’m just a like a book that you can CHOOSE to lay down at will. 

Any questions I can answer for you because you seem to be searching (reaching) for answers?

Mary: No ,Mary, I woke up on the correct side of the bed this morning.

CATFIGHT!

Man I love a good catfight!

ddrb… don’t get too upset.  When you hear “mary” and RDS throwing around buzz words like “free market enterprise,” “global economy,” or “The American Way,” they are really talking about pure unrestrained unfettered Capitalism.

You should just except the fact that it would be easier talking to a rock.  Neither “mary” nor RDS have anything that resembles a conscience.

Screwed: Weren’t YOU calling out Mary yesterday about the use of simple and simpleton?(If I’m not mistaken,the thread about the cars?)

mary,

“yet you waste valuable time,that you could be making money,” ~ ddrb

Wonder how she can afford to ‘waste’ so much time on this blog, plus researching for her posts!!  Makes me wonder when she ‘works’, if in fact she does!!  She seems to pretend to be an authority on almost everything!!

“I asked some questions,too,that have yet to be answered.” ~ ddrb

That’s how it works here, they demand answers to their questions, but CHOOSE whether or not to answer yours!!  And, guess what, their sources are always better than yours!!  They quote Woodrow Wilson, we quote Ronald Reagan and theirs is from a ‘good’ president, and ours is from ‘the worst president’, oh wait, Woodrow Wilson was a Democrat, so he must automatically be ‘better’!!

BTW:  Remember SDV’s “imbecile” List?  I was #1, and the list kept growing.

“RDS shall now officially be added to the list as imbecile #7”

SanDiegoView in
Friday, June 22 at 01:07 PM

“They quote Woodrow Wilson, we quote Ronald Reagan and theirs is from a ‘good’ president, and ours is from ‘the worst president’, oh wait, Woodrow Wilson was a Democrat, so he must automatically be ‘better’!!”
RDS aka imbecile #7

“Republicans are for both the man and the dollar, but in case of conflict the man before the dollar.”
Abraham Lincoln

Being a nearsighted egoist till causes you difficulty remembering the truth about anything RDS, or is it just convenient oversight again?

SDV;Does he NOT qualify for #1 status,now,some months later?

SDV,

Two questions:

1.  Wasn’t Abraham Lincoln a Republican?

2.  Isn’t it said, that “Money makes the world go round”?

There is a difference between respecting the impact of money on lives and thinking that the ‘pursuit’ of money is ‘evil’!!  You sound like one of those who lauds the “starving artist” and deplores the “movers and shakers”!!

SDV,

“"RDS shall now officially be added to the list as imbecile #7”

SanDiegoView in
Friday, June 22 at 01:07 PM”

“My nomination for bullshit statement of the week comes from imbecile #7. Jake and RDS giving each other WalMart worship enemas won’t get them off the imbecile list. Bob at imbecile position #1 evaporated like EllisW in another Edelman identity makeover for blogger frauds. This happens periodically as the accumulation of embarrassments befall the ‘war room’ keyboard propaganda frauds in their ongoing assault on the American culture.

Who lies for you will lie against you- Bosnian Proverb

SanDiegoView in
Saturday, June 23 at 05:07 AM”

I got quite an upgrade, one day, I’m #7, next day I’m #1!!

RDS:Are you Bosnian?Who knew?Bobsnian?-Perhaps a hereditary trait?

“Isn’t it said, that “Money makes the world go round”? ~RDS

No… it’s not “said,” RDS!  I think you’ve either seen Cabaret one too many times, or you’re a big fan of R. Kelly. ( I have a hard time picturing that one though)

By now you should have read enough of SDV’s posts to understand that money is not evil… it’s the “love of money” that’s evil.  I can see why someone like you would be confused because there is a saying that “LOVE makes the world go round.”

So here’s some lyrics for you to sing as you sit around counting all your Benjamins.

Money,Money from the musical: Cabaret

A mark, a yen, a buck or a pound,
a buck or a pound, a buck or a pound,
Is all that makes the world go around,
that clinking clanking sound,
Can make the world go round.

Money Makes the World Go Round
R. Kelly

Feels so good, yeah, yeah
So good, this life I finally live
And feels so real
So real this freedom I finally feel
Show me the money

Money makes the world go round
(Go money, go money)
You believe it if you want to
Money makes the world go round

What a sad, pathetic, impotent little man you are, RDS.

Screwed, I think the Pink Floyd song sums it up rather well…

Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and your O.K.
Money it’s a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I’ll buy me a football team

Money get back
I’m all right Jack keep your hands off my stack.
Money it’s a hit
Don’t give me that do goody good bullshit
I’m in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet

Money it’s a crime
Share it fairly but don’t take a slice of my pie
Money so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for a rise it’s no surprise that they’re
giving none away

“I got quite an upgrade, one day, I’m #7, next day I’m #1!!”

RDS (Bob) in
Tuesday, January 29 at 01:02 PM

Admission of your identity crisis and internet schizophrenia may make you believe your a republican RDS (Bob and whoever else), but getting the meaning of Lincoln’s quote will never vest itself with a ‘love of money’ tunnel vision attitude as you aptly illustrate of yourself. Evasion is your natural ‘inner psychopath’ on any subject that involves people and the human condition. It is however in line with the WalMart/Bentonville business philosophy.

That One’s a Classic, Better Observer!

No doubt this is another listening favorite for RDS as he sits around counting his rent receipts.

Here is one of my favorites by PINK FLOYD.

The meaning of this song will be lost by the likes of Bob, but others on this site my get something from it.

“On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we wont understand
Dont accept that whats happening
Is just a case of others suffering
Or youll find that youre joining in
The turning away

No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
Its not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that therell be
No more turning away?”

Big D,Screwedby: Guys,how about “For the Love Of Money” by the O’Jays-You know..”.Money,money,money-some people got to have it,Some people really need it....Mean Green”....(It’s the theme song for The Apprentice with Donald Trump.Terrific song-oldie but a real goodie!!)

All great songs.  Just to add to the thread, here is an olde diddy from the Beatles.

Money (That’s What I Want)

The best things in life are free
But you can tell me ‘bout the birds and bees.
Now gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.
Money don’t get everything it’s true.
What it don’t get I can’t use.
So gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.
Yeh gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want THAT’S WHAT I WANT
So gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.
Your lovin’ give me a thrill
But your lovin’ don’t pay my bill.
Now gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.
Money don’t get everything it’s true.
What it don’t get I can’t use.
So gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.
Yeh gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want THAT’S WHAT I WANT
So gimme money THAT’S WHAT I WANT
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.

Corgi:Speaking of giving me money and LOTS of it,Sweet William(sometimes known as Big Bad BIll) has been raking in a WHOLE lot of moola while traveling the world as a diplomatic philanthropist.And some of his suitors don’t quite suit the public position of his missus. In todays New York Times is a story about Billy Boy,a wealthy Canadian miner, and a really sweet deal involving uranium and Khazakstan-a human rights violator of epic proportions-denounced by Mrs. Clinton on the Senate floor. No Matter,over $35 million has been donated to Clinton’s Foundation. This is a terrific story,and well worth reading!

PHIL COLLINS-ANOTHER DAY IN PARADISE.

GENESIS-JESUS KNOWS ME.