Our Unofficial Wal-Mart Logo Redesign Contest Winner!

Congratulations,Chris! You surely received inspiration from the ACTUAL flag of China. How appropriate.

will you be selling the T-Shirts, I would buy one,

I agree with Peggy. T-Shirts? I’d by one too.

definitely need to make this into a t-shirt!

i think that the unoffical logo that chris made was… genius!!! wal-mart should definately take a look at it and will think twice about it’s “friendship” with people in china.

I’m not a bumper sticker kind of person, but this I would certainly place on my car (and every other car in the lot!).  Very well stated & well done.  Congratulations.

You think you could get Clinton to sell these to help retire her campaign debt?

Great job all.  I would love a t-shirt with winning logo.  The t-shirt with the runner up, happy face with fangs, on the back of the t-shirt would go great with the red color!  Any chance of a t-shirt encompassing both designs?

I also love the runner up design with the unhappy face in the official sun symbol with “cheap crap” at the bottom.  How about two t-shirt?  I would buy both and give some to friends.

These are all excellent. I think I’d have chosen the one that says our employees always work for less. I’d love a tee shirt too.

All of these logos are great!!  I would definitely buy one of these t-shirts if they were for sale!!!  The cost of the shirts would be a great way to raise money to help the fight against unwanted Walmarts in our communities.

PLEASE MAKE CERTAIN THE TEE SHIRTS ARE NOT MADE OR PRINTED IN CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’d like to see the"Wal-Mart,Our employees always work for Less, Always"logo on a Tee Shirt. I’d surely purchase it, then wear it when shopping at my local Wal-Mart! 

I’m sure, it would get lots of attention!

I would love those t shirts please consider selling them

Is Wal-Mart that bad? I think the entire world is poisoning. How about the pharmaceutical industry poisoning people with medication thats supposed to help us. How about the food industry selling products containing aspartame that effects the heart. Or the shampoo that we use contains ethyl ether that causes depression in women. Did you know flouride does the same to women? How about the lotions that contain parabens that are linked to cancer. The entire world is harming us!! Not only Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart is just the tip of the iceberg. It’s an epidemic! We feed our children these packaged foods, do we really know whats in them? No!! They’re poisoning our children! How about the antibiotics in the milk?? Or the hormones they feed our fruits and veggies to make them more perfect, the pesticides!!!! Doesn’t this anger you?? Or the chemical they put in the water bottles. Don’t let your water bottle sit in the sun!! We need a rude awakening. It’s a shame our children don’t stand a chance in this poisioned world.

Arthur in Belton,Texas, the idea is NOT to shop at your “local Wal-Mart!” Make available tee shirts of all the finalists.  They are all good!  The winner, though, is very clever and right on target.  Great job, Chris!!!

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Well Wal-Mart only gives people what they want.  This is the USA and you can not shop there and you can not work there its all up to you.  But if you get over yourself wal-mart has helped out alot of people in this country.  They have put food on the table for many house holds.  There are companys out there that have paid there employees a great wage when the union has got that for them.  Know they have no jobs because the company had to go out of business.  I love and hate Wal-Mart.  I hate Wal-Mart because they buy so much from other countries but I love Wal-Mart because they do take care of there employees as much as the next american company.  American employees think they are worth a large pay check but go into any store that pays there employees what is considered a fare wage.  You still get the same service as you do at Wal-Mart and the emploeeys stand around talking about drinking, sex and other non work related thing.  I have been to the high end retail stores and heard this go on.  So shut your mouths about this company that feeds families every day because the unionized suppermarkets do not even make shure there employees are taken care of.  I have worked at a unionized suppermarket and i work for wal-mart know and its different as night and day.  I say the union sucks and Wal-Mart has given this country what they want.  If Wal-Mart was not giving this countrie or its employees what it wanted they would be out of business.

The problem is not with this company it is with the amarican people.  We think we are better than any one in the world and every one owes us something.  Wake up and if you do not like Wal-Mart then do not shop there and do not work there its that simple.

Dale

A proud Wal-Mart employee

You can put my name on the list for about a dozen of tee’s. But what about the others? They are great as well, what’s going to be done about them? Around here I could sell a stack or ten and drum up the money for another comerical.

I would LOVE to get the “Wal-mart Our Employees always for less. Always!” sticker and slap them on every wal-mart basket left sitting out in the parking lot not far from my house. That or slap stickers of all the designs on the light poles near by.

Maria is right, we, all of us, are doing the poisoning...Still, since Walmart is the tip of the iceberg, it is a great starting point.  That iceberg is enormous and noticeable. We can and must chip away at it. Bringing attention to the immoral and unthinkable business practices of Walmart is what this is about.  We don’t have to buy there, but we do. Change can only come from within the ranks. We need to stay with it - let WalMart know how much we disapprove of its disregard of anything that might cut into its profits.  Perhaps the rest of us will begin thinking, as well.  It is our own survival we are talking about.

I can’t wait to see those tees in Canada.  My children and I will be sporting them proudly.  Congrats to Chris!

Dale: Hey Dale, how do you feel that the Chinese WalMart workers have MORE say in WalMart’s employee practices than American associates do?Does that make YOU proud?

Walmart is a symptom of a disease and its called “consumerism”. Notice how many people’s first instinct was to want to buy something with the winning logo on it.

This mindset is why Walmart does so well, Dale is right - Walmart wouldn’t sell stuff if people didn’t buy it.

If you really want to help then take the money you were planning on spending on yet another tee shirt and send it to a worthwhile charity - preferably one that helps people in the developed world that Walmart is exploiting.

I suggest the Red Cross or Oxfam or Doctor’s without Borders or any other of a number of similar organizations. You don’t need the tee and they need the money.

ddrb in

Yes it does.  Because we the amarican people keep letting everything get bout out by other countries.  If you do not invest in companies in this countrie then you suport the Chines as well.  Nothing is amarican made or amarican owned anymore.  It can say made in amarica but many times it was not even made here.

Dale IN

Dale - Maybe if you knew how to spell you could get a better job than Wal-Mart.

I have a great job that makes great money.  I am just pissed off at people who run there mouth about the company.  Just shut up and shop some place thats not a wal-mart store.

Dale

A proud Wal-Mart employee

How long have you been with Wal-Mart, Dale?

There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse, and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man’s lawful prey. ~ John Ruskin

AMEN Tricia!

Heck...I ‘ll buy 1-2 of each...To add to my collection

great job.....

if you stop and think about it we are walking billboards…
what a better way to get the message out there…

plus some business cards...for more info…

i have been with wal-mart for 5 years and make over $18.00 an hour.  I have great health insurence and work with a great group of people.  I have worked in many stores through out the USA.  I have not been treated bad.  Ya I may not be a great speller but thats not a wal-mart thing thats public education for you.

Dale

I buy, wear and sell, as well as buy for family direct from Mfg.’s/Wholesalers in Taiwan/Mainland China and underwear from Honduras! I wish I could do the same here! But...I am
disgusted at the way the second Sam was cool the Employee
used ads, Made in, by,sold to and by for Americans. I am Disabled and cannot afforda 2 tee-shirts forwhat we can get 36 for! I found one case where I had to buy if 2 tee-shirts for 15.98 my whlsler was 4.62 Wal-Marts Wholesale was $.89
a fair retail for an $.89 shirt would be 1.99-2.99
The wholesaler had 36 wonderful colors ...but another
.05 off for sticking to 4-6 colors only WE DO NOT LIKE THEM.
The $.89 shirt was selling from 7.99 in the 4 colors too
$9.99 in any of 3-4 other colors (1st shipment only)!
My entire family in-laws daughter, nephews and wives and brother and sister ALL like the warmth in winter of lined leather! Wal-Mart does not carry any 2-3 wholesalers do so! at 69-100.00 we get the same name brand for 12-22.00! Our
Combined gross incom for 2007 was 21,000.00 Cannot live on it unless buying wholesale ...please be honest bout it though and if cost was 20.00 retail a mark @ 39.99 we’d buy
American! Good ol’ Sam and “Made in America,” gone? say it isn’t so Al Heinzeroth Rockford Ilinoins 175,000 pop and a 5th superstore being built!
WARING DANGER!! I asked for the produce mgr a ladycameand I shwed her the foam and molds and 1000’s of fruit flies in and over 4 watermelon pallets! A boy came out and before a word could be said spoke “You should see the produce in back, started with melons and isin hi-priced berries,apples, citruce, grapes everything” I said"Looksas if your prouce fruits are a total loss?” She swore and told the boys too show her! We soon departed! Always go around the back as a shortcut and saves a gallon of gas! Too our surprise ALL produce fruits wer being selectedfo looks & small things were being hosed w/a arden hose all those pallot boxes ofvarious melons were under high presure and
but into new pallet boxes and we went back two hours later all filled and doing busineses (prices had been lowered) this
is a sad reflection on groceries! A business un-suited for Wal-Mart (Danger here sherrie!) the produce, boxes all hours clutterring aisles so as to build up “Point of Sale” haltings!
also I founf “Mock tenders” a flank cut that if run through a
tenderizer twice melts in your mouth better than tough cube-
steak also makes a dandy burger! Pushed the asst. button got a high school kid! “Sorry! Wal-Mart has no butchers, all
our meats come in pre-priced and frozen!Never Wally meat again! No service but no warnings either that if you are freezing any it will be a second freeze and ANY butcher will tell you a no-no posible salmonella as well as otherdiseases if frozen twice before use. Same goes for their fowl and ham much frozen twice before you eat! Also “Price-Fixing”? look to the meat dept! Alls priced with scanner before shipping and various items sell for variouse prices in various areas of U.S.A. Not Wally!! thanks for letting me rant!  AL Heinzeroth
335 dawn ave. #6 Rockford, Illinois 61107 ph# 1-815-708-
7636 E-MAIL purple.hippo123@comcast.net Al Heinzeroth

i have been with wal-mart for 5 years and make over $18.00 an hour.

I wouldn’t get too comfortable, Dale. 5 years/$18 an hour must put you near the top of Susan Chamber’s list of tenured employees they’d just as soon un-tenure.

If none of the recent changes (open availability, wage caps, etc.) have affected you, one can only wonder why. Perhaps you have other ingratiating habits besides your spelling.

I must admit, however, I am a little skeptical that anyone, even someone who blames his shortcomings on the public education system, could live in this day and age and not know how to spell A-M-E-R-I-C-A.

I wish I knew what Dale meant to say because of the spelling errors. Maybe it’s from breathing all those toxic fumes from all the plastic crap at Mal-Wart.
This so called mega-store is the worst example of greed. It moves into areas with mom and pop stores that have been there for years and then these businesses go out of business because they can’t compete with the cheap crap from Mal-Wart. Then their track record on employee relations and them not treating women equally to men is a total disgrace.
I wouldn’t step foot in that store if they were GIVING away free stuff. Or Sam’s Club either. Both of these stores are a pimple on the ass of life.
Dale, it’s admirable that you are proud of where you work. But until you see what a truly despicable company it is that you work for, you are hopeless. The way they treated that woman who was injured on the job and almost died then to lose a son in Iraq and then have to pay for her medical treatments that your company was suppose to have paid,is unconscionable.
Excellent logo. As long as those t-shirts are not made in China, sign me up for one. And a bumper sticker.

Oh Dale let me tell you about that “great company” my teenage son works for walmart and he got injured unloading a truck they were going just to send him home no incident report or anything.WRONG.. after about an hours fight a incident report was filled out and he was sent to the doctor AFTER they had to pull the video and watch it repeatedly to make sure he did not do anything wrong.Great company my fanny! They do not care about thier workers,My son has since returned to work on light duty to a hostile work enviroment in fact just recently they put all thier workers on part time status know what that means Dale? NO BENEFITS!.
The only thing that walmart cares about is profit not people.
Just look what they did to that poor woman who was injured and brain damaged,they sued her...Great company!

Lisa

I think it should be mandatory on all web sites that spell and grammar check be implemented.

Well Dale, let me tell you something, I was with the company for 15 years and guess what !! they just let me go for doing what a Co-manager told me to do...take addtional prices on clearance items. The company sucks as far as I am concern, they dont care about the value of families, they only care about making that big bonus at the end of the year. I have a 7 year old daugther that has a rare genetic skin disorder and since January of this year she has lost half of her mouth from the cancer that it causes, so guess what Walmart paid out alot of money for her surgeries and she still has more reconstructions to go, but now I now longer have the insurance THANKS to the caring people at WALMART!. They are doing everything and anything to get the long term associates out the door. Oh another Dale you are not Amercian or you would know how to spell no matter how upset you are. Just give Walmart time, 5 mores year with the company and you will be out the door too.

By the way Chris...Great job on the logo’s. Would buy 2 t-shirts myself and proudly wear them to show how bad of a company WalMart really is.

I do not see any reason to be jumping Dale, it’s Walmart we all hate. Good job Chris. Have a good day Dale.

Johanna-

Walmart paid out alot of money for her surgeries

Thank you for pointing out the value of the company’s insurance. How much did they pay?

Dale,
I have had a lot of friends and family work at Wal*Mart.  I agree that Wal*Mart has helped a lot of people, but they have harmed a lot more. And they treat their employees a lot worse. I have also heard Wal*Mart employees stand around talking about drinking, sex and other non work related topics.
Wal*Mart obviously is not “Proud To Be an American”.
Are they offering you some sort of reward to sing their praises?  Because other wise I think you must not know your own self worth. Maybe you think you don’t deserve to be treated any better.?

Congratulations Chris, your design is by far the most perfect. I would proudly sport a t-shirt with your design.

Dale:  I retired from Wal~Mart and I hope you realize that discussing your rate of pay can lead to your being let go.  You have not only discussed this on-line but with the millions who read this........There is an old saying “you are the master of the unspoken word, once it is out of your mouth, you are it’s slave”.  You might consider it.

I thought mine was pretty good, it had a third world child and said ruining third world countries one a time, always. Oh well, this website seems to not really care about the third world and only about walmart outsourcing, if walmart or any other company didn’t outsource I doubt people would even give a crap about human rights in the third world. Hey as long as those “filthy third worlders” don’t have your money right?

Great T-shirt designs! My family avoids Wal-Mart as much as possible and if you ask eployees who work there, 99% of them will say they hate their jobs. Sometimes I’ll go into a Wal-Mart just to ask that question and maybe once a year will buy something. It is true that they are just the tip of the iceberg, though, and excess consumerism in Ameeerica is mainly what drives them.  Just stop shopping so much!

The designs are great!  If you make t-shirts, be sure to put “MADE IN USA” on them.  I like the idea of using the money for communities to fight Walmart coming into small towns.  Oklahoma is full of the darn stores.

I would buy a couple but only at a good price and quality.  I figure WM is about the only place who can meet that criteria.

Good morning,

This is a really sad story I want to share with all of you and excuse me to bother with this letter because I am completely sure you have more important things to do and worry about, but what happen to me and my wife is something that really impact and affect our family life. We were buying at Wal-Mart 4444 W Vine St Kissimmee, Fl 34741. My wife was trying on a blouse when mysteriously her purse disappeared with $6.600,00 in cash, you will say why we were carrying that amount of money in cash with us, and the reason is that we arrived Saturday night from Venezuela so the banks were already closed to make a deposit, all of this happen Sunday night and destroyed our illusions of an wonderful vacation in your country, leaving us without one US dollar to afford not even for a bottle of water. Imaging two foreigners on their second day out of five of what we thought was going to be a relaxing and enjoyable vacation; it became the worse nightmare of my whole life.
Good people are not out of reach of bad ones, but I really have confidence and trust in the US system, because I have been flying to the US since 1995 and work for the Department of State (US Embassy in Caracas-Venezuela) since 1999 and these two big experiences made me understand and love the US system.
The purpose of this letter is to inform you the situation that occur at some Wal-Mart stores that maybe do not pass to your attention, these kind of situation will damage your reputation and image that cost you too much sacrifices to build, on the other hand, I will encourage you to hide a better qualified personal. I know this is a delicate matter what I am going to say, but we are almost sure it was an employee who was next to us who took my wife purse, pull out just the money and hide the purse, after five minutes she “SUPPOSEDLY” found it already open and handle it to customer services (a customer will not waste time looking what is inside the purse running the risk of been seen, He/She takes the purse and disappears) The manager in charge of the store Mr. Carlos Cardona did not collaborate with us, said the only thing he could do was to call the police. He did not call the internal security personal (by the way, they never appeared) giving time the thief to run out of the store or to hide the money He did not gave any opportunity to see any camera or a security video?

We reported the case to the Kissimmee police department and the case number is 1-08-004821.

We’ll appreciate all your support on this matter, and thank you very much for your attention, And as Mr. Sam Walton said: Saving people money so they can live better was not true for us into one of his stores, an employee stole our money and we have not at least received any e-mail saying that they sorry about the situation into a WalMart store.

Mayson Heredia
011-58-412-9852007 Mayson_heredia@yahoo.es

Elsy Avendaño
011-58-412-9016488 Aelsy262@hotmail.com

I hope the T shirts you print will be organic & made in the U.S.  I’ll print the same message on my grown & sewn in US organic cotton bags! (www.SustainableBags.Net)

copy the logo you want into your photo editor. Enlarge it if necessary. Print it out on transfer paper, and iron it onto the T-shirt of your chose!!!

Congrdts to Chris and the finalists.. I also hope you will sell t-shirts with this logo, I’d wear it

What denial some people have! When I saw the Documentary called, Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price,
I was infuriated...especially seeing how Walmart treats their
own employees!!!!!!!!!! I was shocked. So if any Walmart employees get mad at this website, then I would suspect
you have not seen this Documentary...It is dated back to
2005, and I just watched it a few days ago. It shocked me.
To think that Walmart’s employees make ends meet because the taxpayer’s dollar in each state foots the bill
for food stamps and Medicaid/ health care...to think the bosses at Walmart encouraged them to get help from the State???? to think that Walmart’s employees gave more money to charity than The entire Walton family
combined in 2005!!!!! To think the CEO of Walmart makes close (or more now) to $14,000.00 an hour????????????? Please get informed people....this is sooo shameful....need I go on?????? I have great respect for Walmart Employees,
but obviously Walmart doesn’t!!!!! And being the billion
dollar empire they are, why won’t they take care of their workers?????? SHAME ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was thinking…
no wonder China wants to poison us!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes
sense, seeing how these people make such little money
and are treated like dirt over there!!! It is embarassing!
As “Rainman” once said about K-mart, I have to say it
about Walmart: WAL-MART SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a good Slogan for a T-Shirt....

Crawl-Mart...where employees are abused and seldom
able to get back on their feet!

Thanks for letting me share with you :)

Pedro (above) and others:  Everyone ALL OVER the world deserves fair pay for the work they do.  For myself, I don’t want any one exploited for me to save me a little money- not people, not the environment.  Sweatshops should not exist, children should not have to do labor - and they do because others are willing to buy items from Sweatshop/child labor so that we can save a little money.

If you’ve ever used a sewing machine, you know for yourself how much time and effort it takes to make garments and other items.  We are clearly NOT paying a fair amount of money to people who do this work!

Our government used to have laws that protected for manufacturers in the US, but Reagan, and other supply-side politicians (McCain, et al. as well) have gotten rid of that, so that corporations will buy wholesale from the cheapest place in the world. It’s become a giant race to the bottom - and ALL People - all over the world lose.  Barbara Ehrenright’s book “Nickel and Dimed” said it best:  If you’re getting a bargain - then someone else is paying for it! 

The only way things will change is when people REFUSE to buy things that are made by people in sweatshops - no matter where they live! EVERYONE deserves to be treated fairly. 

It’s up to us all with the way you spend your money.  If people don’t buy sweatshop made items, then companies won’t be able to sell them, and they will go out of business.  When that happens, the rest of the world will stop hating the U.S.  and begin to start respecting US again.  DON’T BUY IN WALMART!!

While this was an exercise in creativity, I can’t help but think that it is negative. Here’s what I do that’s positive:
1) I shop at Goodwill & Salvation Army stores for nice used pre-shrunk clothes that I can dry clean to look new.
2) I shop at friendly neighborhood Mom & Pop groceries that I can walk or ride my bike to.
3) I smile and make sure my cashier knows how important they are to me, and if it’s a friendly teenager, they get treated like royalty, since they’re dealing with the public at such a tender age.
4) When I can’t find something and some kid is stocking shelves I ask, “Pardon me--I know you’re busy: can you show me where batteries are?” They never turn me down when I recognize they’re working. They’re glad to talk to a human being for a break.
Conclusion: I would like to wear one of these logos on a t-shirt, but I wouldn’t want to even adorn myself with the name, “WalMart” even in protest. I loved the circular letter W with the red ban sign through it. It stood for “No Dubya Bush,” as well as “No Walmart”
As far as the colorful creative logos from this contest, let’s make bumper stickers and fliers out of them and post them everywhere we can. That way we won’t have to wear the W-word on our bodies.
Thank you for listening.
--Michael
P.S. I wasn’t sure what you wanted in the homepage box.

I want a t-shirt AND bumper stick!!!

Terre Haute, Indiana

former Hell-Mart employee…

To someone in USA:
It doesnt matter how much they paid out , I paid into the insurance company for 15 years, This is the first major time I have had to use the insurance. But since I was let go now and I was the only person working in our family, I have to try and get her on Medicaid to pay for the reconstructions on her face so that she can lead a normal life. I was paying my part into the insurance and was working to do it and not wanting someone else to do it for me, but now everybody else is going to be paying for it once I get her on medicaid...is this really saving us money so we can live better?  NOT! They did me wrong and that is not fair to you and everyone else out there trying to make an honest living. I did alot of prices changes for this company and I will tell you in the past 4 months I seen nothing but prices going up, so where is that saving you money to live better! Wake up people, WalMart is not all out to what they want you to think they are. They are slave drivers and they brain wash you to think that they are the best company to work for...NOT...I will never step foot into another WALMART ever again!

At least Sam Walton would get the stuff from Mexico or Brasilia or some other Norht or South American source… maybe a few things from Taiwan, but none of this Maoist-approved economic attack on our nation. Nor would he have treated the employees like some Chinatown sweatshop workers. Since he died, Wally World has really gone down the loo…

BOYCOTT CHINA OLYMPIAD until those bastard Maoists pull out of Tibet - and ABDICATE in favour of the Taiwanese government!

I think it is very sad what Walmart has done to Sam Walton’s ideals.  It is equally sad that a nation of poor people have little choice but to shop there.  It is even sadder that so many jobs in the USA have been out-sourced and one is hard pressed to find something actually made in the USA. 

We have no jobs, no insurance - there is little difference in the US today and third-world countries.

I don’t like other things they do in China either. Voice4Dogs.  After skinning them alive they make pretty little stuffed toys that they sell at Walmart and other places.  It is illegal but the labeling laws just don’t get it.

Oh for Heaven’s sake get off the spelling thing.  I am a writer and I can’t spell worth a flip. 

The last time I checked, we still had a right to speak our own mind.

Who are you to judge Dale or anyone for what they write?

Yes, most of the comments here are well thought out and most of us do not like Walmart.  Walmart is not the only sorry company in the US.  All companies want to make large profits, look at Exxon.  They do that by whatever means they can.  Until the government stops them, they will continue to do in the little guy.

BTW, Michael in Toledo, OH - Bravo!  those are very positive things we all can do!

I have to agree with the vote with your money suggestions.  We have choices of where to shop.  It’s not a matter of adorning a t-shirt and being anti-Wal*Mart.  It is better to be pro-some other store.

Michael from Toledo has the right idea.  Treating people with respect and shopping elsewhere is a good positive message. 

As Americans ,on the whole, we have become lazy.  We don’t want to do the work to become aware of who we are buying from, so we simply buy the cheapest things.  I think it is important to get the message out about Wal*Mart and other companies that are hurting our world, but I also think it is important to be aware of the positive alternatives to steer people towards a better choice.

I have banned Wal*Mart for 4 years now and mention to people why I ban in my conversations, if the topic comes up.  I also tell people where I am shopping instead.  Now there is a powerful message. To help the employees, maybe we need to suggest other places for them to work when you see openings for them.

The only way a capital company like Wal*Mart will go down is to hit them in their wallets by buying from their competition.

i need one of theese shirts. i actually would buy all of the finalists.

This is still a free country.  If people do not want to shop or work
there, go somewhere else.  Just about everyone has foreign
merchandise for sale.  Get a life and off the back of WalMart. Some
less fortunate people like their prices and need them to survive. It’s
a free country so shop and work where you want.  People have
enough trouble controlling their own lives, much less WalMart’s.
Acturally, if those who put down the company would channel all
that negativity towards something that would really make a difference
in this world, like working for Habitity for Humanity etc.  would
be worthwhile. Do something positive with your life. Putting
down WalMart is just not worth your energy.

These people..do you really think WalMart has ANYTHING that anybody really wants to buy in the first place? I want to buy one of these shirts to help SAVE THE WORLD..!!!

Wal-Mart is sending the wrong message, I prefer to buy local, fair trade, or union made stuff, because my preference is American Made Products.

I’m sorry, I’m a teacher and poor spelling and grammar is one of my pet peeves.  As a writer you would never publish a piece of writing (which is essentially what you do when you write on a blog) without spell checking.

Soon to be an ex-employee at Wal-Mart.  Just but in my two weeks notice in about 4 hours ago.  Worked there for about 1 year.  It’s almost one of the worst employers I ever had.  It was not my job I did not like but the way management ran things.  The waste of food is disgusting.  Hundreds of dollars worth of food thrown away daily, because they will not give it away, not even to the local food pantries like other stores do.  I have also seen hot food such a roteriesse chicken, lunch meat, and sandwhiches sit out in the open for hours because of lazyiness or lack of help.  As far as shopping or working any where eles Wal-Mart is the only major store around for miles and miles.  Wal-Mart can and they are very unfair to the workers.  They also have very low standards and poor customer service.  Wal-Mart at the present time seems to be letting go of the long-term, high paid employees.  Do you know why that is?  So they don’t have to pay for benefits.  In to receive benefit one has to work at least 35 hours a week. That’s almost full-time.  How shaddy.

You know what? I will say it again. I. DON’T. CARE!!!!

I was thinking of submitting a picture that was like an actual logo… but then I realized that it wouldn’t stand a chance.

I feel offended by the winning logo’s play on the Chinese flag. It’s like using the American flag, it’s not respectful. I have a little sister from China, and she is a great person. I have stuff from my parent’s trip to pick her up. China is a place full of rich history. China exports. It is how it get’s money. Like America exports.

Also, every store had problems with the lead problem. Not just Wal-Mart

-Skeptical Teenager

Yo Dave,
don’t go around bad mouthing public education, I am 14 years and I’ve been public schooled my whole life except for the previous school term and I spell just fine, thank you verry much.  They’ve gotten much better, immensely so, in the past 10 years.

As for the t-shirts, i thnink that the folks a walmart watch should make tees out of all the aforementioned logos and that 1/2 of the profits should go toward spreading the word about the evils of Walmart.  These shirts and stickers and buttons ad whatever else they are made into would sell A LOT and in turn could provide all the neccecary capitol for advertrisinfg on the internet, local radio, maybe even get the attention of a few local newspapers. 
I will be purchasing one of these as soon as they’re out. =)

Dear Dale, A proud Wal-Mart employee,

I too am a Walmart employee, I was injured 11 months ago by equipment that was bad because the management didn’t want to spend money to replace because it would take away from their bonus! To date I go to therapy 3 times a week, have had 2 MRI’s, have to use my gas to get to the doctors plus missed work, so far I have NOT been reimbursed for anything! including mileage, lost wages, etc. not a dime! The store manager won’t even look at me, let alone talk to me, She already tried to fire me.

You have the attitude that ALL the managers have at walmart, I bet that you ARE a manager or are Aspiring to be one, but let me tell you, Walmart doesn’t treat their employees right at all! The second MRI was because after complaining to upper management about a manager that was harasing me a week later while at the door greeting customers a cart pusher decided to shove a whole row of carts into my back, he didn’t see me standing there. How convenient.

I will be making a bumper sticker of some of these (If it is ok with walmartwatch of course) and proudly displaying them on my van so when I go to work they will know how I feel (what kind of accidents will happen then I wonder?)

This is such a great site!!!
Terry

I am a former Wal*mart employee. After 4.6 years, I was terminated 1 week before scheduled surgery. Wal*Mart tried to fight me on unemployment benefits. Wal*Mart made up all sorts of stuff. When the employment commission came to check on my claim, Wal*Mart couldn’t prove anything. So I received my unemployment. The real reason I was let go is that I used my heath benefits and I was earning a wage higher than anyone else in my dept. The only reason I worked at Wal*Mart was to earn some job stability.

Marie in Oak Park, IL.,

“The way they treated that woman who was injured on the job and almost died then to lose a son in Iraq and then have to pay for her medical treatments that your company was suppose to have paid,is unconscionable.”

This is another good example of how the anti people get things wrong, just because they are willing to BELIEVE almost everything they hear!!  First, the woman was NOT injured ‘on the job’, she was in an auto accident and hit by a truck, that she pulled out in front of (and it was NOT a Wal-Mart truck)!!  Second, they DID pay her medical bills for her medical treatments, the flap came from the insurance wanting to get subrogation from her $1 million lawsuit settlement from the trucking company!!  But, I guess your version sounds more anti Wal-Mart, than the truth!!

As most of the comments here, seem to always be the same, it is like people are quoting things from one of those so-called documentaries, like Victoria R in Sunrise, Florida mentioned, “Wal-Mart: The High cost of Low prices”, which if she had checked further, was a union ‘slam Wal-Mart’ movie, not an actual documentary, (a real documentary, will show both sides of an issue)!!  A lot of what was in that movie, has been proven to be false, twisted or slanted!!

But, like I said, some people will believe almost anything!!

Donna T in Fallon, NV,

“I have also seen hot food such a roteriesse chicken, lunch meat, and sandwhiches sit out in the open for hours because of lazyiness”

Are you saying that SOME of Wal-Mart’s employees are LAZY?  I thought they were all hard working people who needed a raise?

hey could someone buy me one of those t-shirts, see I’m a current employee of Walmart and don’t make enought to get myself or family members any!!

GabbieRox;

[don’t go around bad mouthing public education, I am 14 years and I’ve been public schooled my whole life except for the previous school term and I spell just fine]

Well, I can tell by your post, that your education is doing you well and you sure do know how to spell just fine.  But, I found a few mistakes, first off, The first word of a sentence needs to be capitalized: See ‘don’t’ above.

Next: How about these?

[thank you verry much.]
[i thnink that] ‘also, the word ‘I’ is usually capitalized’.
[the neccecary capitol]
[for advertrisinfg on]

Nice job of spelling.

I like Wal-Mart.  My wife and I have shopped Wal-Mart since the first store moved into our neighborhood about 10 years ago.  Now, we both work full-time at a Wal-Mart store and find our work enjoyable.

People can knock Wal-Mart but I dare say the company will be around as the largest retailer beyond our lifetimes.  Why? Because it outperforms competitors.

FACT: The filmmaker behind “Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices” wanted desperately to feature both sides to the story, but the higher-ups at Wal-Mart shut the door on them time and time again. They were left with a one-sided movie, which still presented TRUTH. Yes, a documentary film presents both sides to a story. But what makes a documentary film even more effective, is it’s TRUTH-TELLING.

Great designs, I also would buy one of each and wear them proudly!  Dale, there are always two sides to every story, and in your case it would seem that Walmart did well by you.  I do, however, disagree strongly with your statement as regards the public school system.  It IS NOT the school system that is at fault, you make the decisions as to whether or not you are going to apply yourself and learn everything that the school system has to teach!  I also attended public school, and I don’t seem to have any problem spelling correctly!  If Walmart is as good as you claim, then why are there so many negative remarks when compared to a few positive ones?

I would LOVE one of those t-shirts! The finalists were all FANTASTIC, love the smiley face with the fangs! How appropriate for the walmart world! I too, was fired from walmart, right after Christmas, many years ago, due to the fact that I was a full time employee with “benefits”, they only wanted part-timers with no benefits after the holidays were over. Yes, I too, collected unemployment against them after a fight. I don’t shop walmart to this day. I think they have brain-washed the public into thinking they have lower prices, on some items, they may be, but item was made and/or purchased from foreign country CHEAP! We need to go back to the “Made in U.S.A.” purchase of goods only. I think they have put many Mom & Pop stores out of business. I will shop ANY specialty shop I need, to find an item, other than walmart, regardless how far I have to drive. Thats how much I despise walmart tactics & upper management. One thing I noticed while working at walmart was the fact that they hired MANY blacks & people that weren’t to bright, they could manipulate that type of people easily. And these type people bend over backwards to please upper management, upper management does not like anyone who bucks their system, or they will get rid of them, for whatever reason. I SAY: PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.....GET SMART........STAY AWAY FROM WALMART....SHOP ELSEWHERE! LETS SHUT THEM DOWN, BRING BACK SMALL BUSINESSES.....AND ALLOW THEM TO GROW!

I love the design and would love to own a T-shirt

Hey Dale,

So how long have you worked for the Propaganda Department at Wal-Mart?

File this one in the Debbie Shank file for “How Low Can You Go’?I will be ordering several Tees shirts .I HOPE they become available before WalMart rolls out the WalMart moms political campaign this fall.The only WalMart moms who count are the ones who shop there. NOT the WalMart moms who work there.China is NOT the only one found guilty of Human Rights violations.PLEASE read this.

By H.J. CUMMINS, Star Tribune

Last update: July 1, 2008 - 9:11 PM

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. broke Minnesota labor law more than 2 million times over six years, routinely forcing some employees to work off the clock through lunch and rest breaks, a Dakota County judge has ruled.

The violations were willful, said District Judge Robert King in a ruling Monday in Hastings. They could bring a penalty of up to $1,000 per violation, which could mean a $2 billion fine for the world’s largest retailer. A jury will decide the size of the penalty during the second phase of the trial, expected to begin Oct. 20.

Nancy Braun, one of four named plaintiffs on the suit, said Tuesday that she was “ecstatic” about the judge’s decision. Braun, who worked in an Apple Valley store for about 14 months beginning in March 1998, said the store repeatedly didn’t find people to give her breaks when she was the sole cook and waitress at the store’s grill.

In several instances no one came in time for her to go to the bathroom. “I would end up soiling myself,” said Braun, now 53 and living in Rochester. “Sometimes I’d have other clothes with me in my locker, or they would say to me, ‘We have clothes in the store you can buy.’”

Braun said she kept complaining, “and they kept promising to get me help, but they never did it.”

In his ruling, King especially noted Braun’s treatment and a similar episode with a menstruating employee, calling it “dehumanizing and reprehensible” but also an “aberration.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Loved the comments from Michael in Toledo!  Thank you for walking the high road in the middle of such a low topic.
Dale… why are you on this website?
English teacher… I now remember why I hated high school so much.
To all the creative hearts who designed these logos- Marvleous! All of them are priceless. Thank you for your effort and time.

tee shirt i would buy several!!!!!

Lori,

“but the higher-ups at Wal-Mart shut the door on them time and time again.”

Why do you think they did that?  They didn’t do it to CNBC and their documentary “The Age of Wal-Mart”!!

“They were left with a one-sided movie, which still presented TRUTH.”

What about the part, where they claimed Wal-Mart put a hardware store ‘out of business’ and later it was revealed that the business was going out, before Wal-Mart came to town?  Was what the movie said, the truth?

Carol,

“If Walmart is as good as you claim, then why are there so many negative remarks when compared to a few positive ones?”

Probably, because this is an ANTI Wal-Mart site, run by the SEIU union!!  And, they want to make Wal-Mart LOOK bad, to get a union into Wal-Mart, to tap into all that DUES money!!  Just think, if the union only charged $1.00 a month in dues, it would take in $1.5 million a month or $18 million a year, and you know it will be MORE than $1.00 a month!!

You may notice, every time someone says something ‘good’ about Wal-Mart, they get tagged as a paid Wal-Mart shill or troll!!  Think about it, if Wal-Mart was as ‘bad’ as portrayed here, why do millions of people shop there and work there?  Why do they remain the #1 retailer?  If Wal-Mart is so ‘bad’, why do people keep coming back again, week after week, why don’t they go to some other ‘better’ store?  And, why is it that some people work there for YEARS?

RDS: Why do people shoot heroin,smoke crack, drink alcohol,smoke cancer sticks? ADDICTION! .............Addicted to cheap,Chinese junk ? Gives a whole new meaning to the term “Junkie”. Guess who’s the pusher?

RDS:Why do you think they did that?  They didn’t do it to CNBC and their documentary “The Age of Wal-Mart”!! RDS~~~~~~~Umm, maybe because NBC owns G.E. (General Electric) who has a huge interest in WalMart,since G.E. Capital(a division of G.E.) handles all of the billings and collections on WalMart credit cards?

I love them all, but I particularly laughed at the “Bang Head Here” poster, the vampire smiley face (shades of Lord Waldemart), and the *Cheap Crap. Can you make the runners-up all available for download? Or, hey, bumper stickers would be cool.

“RDS: Why do people shoot heroin,smoke crack, drink alcohol,smoke cancer sticks? ADDICTION! .............Addicted to cheap,Chinese junk ? Gives a whole new meaning to the term “Junkie”. Guess who’s the pusher? “

Wow so now all Walmart shoppers are on the same level as heroin junkies.  I never knew so many MILLIONS of shoppers are considered such low life by the anti-walmart crowd.  Talk about elitism.  ddrb takes the cake, and all because she wasn’t smart enough to find a home that wasn’t right next door to a Walmart and she feels vindictive of anything and anyone associated with the name Walmart.  So who’s the really dummy here?...... I thought so.

Mary: You really shouoldn’t refer to yourself in such dispaparging terms. However, WalMart shoppers would no doubt be interested in the terms used by WalMart themselves,when referring to their OWN customers. I wonder what demographic you fit into Mary?

Yay!  I love them all. Always.

BTW: Reread my post-“RDS: Why do people shoot heroin,smoke crack, drink alcohol,smoke cancer sticks? ADDICTION! .............Addicted to cheap,Chinese junk ? Gives a whole new meaning to the term “Junkie”. Guess who’s the pusher? “

Mary, WHERE do I use the term,WalMart?

WoW !!! You people really are as stupid as I have heard you were !!! You are seriously spending your time banging a GREAT company !!! I have heard about you and this web-site but never dreamed that you were really this hard up for attention !!! WoW !!!! The AMAZING thing is that you sit here and bash Walmart* then get up and go shop it ---- don’t lie, you know you do !!! Post your pictures next to your name and I bet they can find you on their security cameras .. Do you “REALLY” know this company? Have you ever worked (and I mean work - not just recieve a paycheck) for this company? Have you every used their benifits? Have you spoken to the former associates that have retired from this company?
Heres’ my thinking on you folks ---
Fist off --- you should be over in Iraq because you are acting just like the rebels our troops are working so hard to eliminate !!! You have an agenda to run Walmart* out of business (don’t lie - that’s what you want to do) and you dont even know the consequences that would cause the United States - remember that Walmart* is the largest employeer…
Second --- this site is run by the Unions.. You folks are like a bad case of disease carrying mesquitos infesting a neighborhood - bloodsucking and not concerned with who you harm (ie: Women, CHILDREN, and Famalies)… You want in there so bad so YOU can take EVEN more money, that you claim the associates don’t make, from their mouths and put in your pockets… Why not go get a real job and break away from the Unions - they are the PAST - let the Unions die with dignity, afterall, they were good for the people 100 years ago… Things have changed, move on !!!
Third --- ever heard the old saying “Don’t judge a man till you’ve walked a mile in his shoes”?  Practice that !!! You might just be suprised !!! I don’t like to shop at Harvest Foods because I’ve heard the manager there talk to his associates like they were dirt --- but I sure havn’e created this type of fuss !!! People have a choice—if a Walmart* associate chooses not to work for that company, guess what, THEY CAN QUIT !!! It’s AMERICA remember --- The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave !!!!

I’ve read on here that Walmart* should stop buying from China ?? I wish they could - however, we have but one issue ---- The American people are too freaking lazy to do the work here so that we would not have to look outward to buy from a country “willing to work” ... Ever looked at our unemployment rate? Every stood in a Walmart* store in their “long lines” and watched the countless people buying things that I can’t even afford using OUR GOVERNMENT MONEY ??? Now there’s a fight you should go after !!! Ever see a white man working on a highway crew? Mexicans mow my neighbors yards - India Indians run every convienence store and gas station in the D/FW area and they all live in upscale homes that I could never afford - why> because the Governmant is paying for them to live there ---- Imagine if you put half the effort that you put into bashing Walmart* into stopping the Governmental abuse that our own people are causing --- just imagine what you could do for our country !!!
The Center for Community and Corporate Ethics ?? Ha Ha !! That’s a GREAT mask to use considering Halloween is fast approaching !!! See my piont? Call a Spade a Spade --- be like the great gangs of New York and tell folks who you really are? Who you really work for? What your agenda really is !!! Tell the truth !!!!!
I am so ashamed of you, this site, and what you all are doing here !!! There are millions of Americans dying everyday from poverty, get up from your computer and go fix and deliver a meal to a homeless family, see how that makes you feel? There are true battles that need to be fought to make this a better Nation, battles much more important than the one you are fighting here.. Utilize your time and resources to “do your work” where you are needed.. Walmart* doesn’t need you - nor do they want you.. My local Walmart* truly hates the Unions !!! How can a union be respected when it has to hide behind a mask, delivers mis-leading materials and “drops them off in the employee bathroom” (WoW!!)—tell’s bold face lies and claims they can make things better for a company that is already GREAT !!!!
This is only but a few minutes of my thoughts --- I will choose to fight against you - but better yet, I will choose to put my time, money, and GODs given effort into helping those that really need the help…
Praying on the weak, misleading folks, and living in your SIN, are all things that I choose not to be a part of !!! Instead, I choose to fight against you ...
Today, I will go apply at my local Walmart*—Today I will start a site that is Anti-WalmartWatch.com—Today I will announce that I will stand up againt you and fight the true enemy --- the unions of Five Stones and the Center for Community and Corporate Ethics !!!
On GUARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great Work! I’ll happily buy a shrt or two. I’d like to address a couple of comments by a few posters:
1)Maria in Burlington,nj: Hi Maria! Yes Wal$Mart really is that bad! The business model is to use their size to put all competition out of business and as they dominate one market, toys for example, they then go after, Groceries, Record Stores, Drug Stores, etc. Since Wal/Marts meteoric rize the decline in good paying service sector jobs has been staggering and has all but killed the American Middle Class. But the overall economic effect is 2 fold. Not only have they eliminated the service sector jobs, Wal666Mart was completely behing the moves of manufacturing of many of America great companies like Mattell. Rubbermaid and the list goes on. They twist the concept of a free market economy and have been waging economic warfare on the American Economy since Bill Clinton took office (His Wife was on the board of directors untill the start of his campaign). Look at how many American Jobs went to Communist China from 1993 to 2000. Can you imagine the outrage if Ronald Reagan had done a simmilar trade deal with the USSR? I’m affraid the debate is about to settle itself shortly in the form of a major reccession. Wal*Marts stock is doing well because they make more money the more missery index climbs. I would be very happy to discuss and debate these issues with anyone who wants. I’ve got the inside scoop. Loose lips sink ships!
2)Daryl G in D/FW, TX: Hi Daryl, In the 70’s and 80’s the government and corporations blamed our Nations financial woes on the “Lazy American Workers” Wal-Mart picks on unions. Unions never would have existed if it wasn’t for Wal*Mart’s forefathers and their ilk. You should read a book titled the “Capitalist Philosophers” It is required reading for Wal`Mart management. You should also read anything you can get your hands on regarding the Nazi, Amaerican and British Propaganda Campaigns leading up to and durring the second world war. Sound-bites and Slogans are for Morons. You’re not a Moron are you Daryl?
To everybody else including private citizens, equity funds, and Government pension plans. You don’t REALLY need all that Wal*Mart stock in your portfolio. I say dump it and find something that is going to help America. Sam Walton and good ole Lee Scott love to say America Votes With it’s Wallet! Well America, Look at all the foreclosures, bank failures and the automobile industry. This is what you have been voting for.
God Bless (Help) us All,
Bobby

ddrb, how dare you ask me any questions.  Do you think I am supposed to answer you?  I thought that was the motto of the anti-walmart crowd around here.... don’t answer the questions because the truth will come back around to smack you in the head.

Now if you would like to enlighten everyone how you ended up living “a few footsteps away” from a Walmart (that being a primary reason why you hate Walmart so much) then I will be more than happy answer your questions and to point out the error in your ways.

Bobby:~~~ America Votes With it’s Wallet! Well America, Look at all the foreclosures, bank failures and the automobile industry. This is what you have been voting for."~~~Bobby,you shoulda entered the tee shirt contest-THAT"S A WINNER!!!

BTW: Wallet Mart?

ddrb in
Thanks for the kind words. I started on a logo but have been way too busy to finish before deadline. I did want to add a few after-thoughts to my last post and your response has given me an excuse, so again, I thank you.
1) American Workers Rock and deserve a big pat on the back! (But they need to stop shopping at W-mart)!
2) Wal*Mart simply sucks. Money, Resources, Lives and Souls. It sucks them all.
3) The best cure for our Nation’s ills would be a giant enema. Where to shove the nozzle? Bentonville Arkansas!!

: )

Bobby

Congradulations to the winner and the runnerups.  Would be great to have T shirts and Bumper Stickers of all the fine pieces of art.  I would buy them all and spend a day at my ‘Adopted’ Wal-Mart in Pecos.  where I spent sveral days of my time conducting a Candy Sale for the Wal-Mart Emplooyees, and just passing out imflamatory stuff i printed on my own printer and used my own resources to get across the point that Wal-Mart in the death of America.  Sure there are other companies just as bad but let’s get one place at a time.  There are not enough people in the world to start going after all the corporations who peddle bad medicine, insufficient insurance to cover legitate losses, world wide banking institutions that peddle loans and then forclose on homes and cars the minute you miss a payment because the job they had was shipped overseas so that Wal-Mart san buy its products for pennies and sell it back to its cuntomers for dollars. 
Do any of you who love to work at Wal-Mart and love to shop at Wal-Mart think you are getting the best bang for your buck?  NOT ME.  I have necer shopped at th place because the first thing I learned many years ago was that even Ol” Sam was a damn liar.  He claimed to buy American and sell American Products and the very first time, over 40 years ago that I went to a WM, lo and behold I wasted a half day looking for something from an American Manufacturer.  So I never went back.  Screw ‘em they are lousy corporate deserters of America who may have an office in the US but extend their crap all over the world. 
In any event, if I spell good or bad, if I am one of those Union Members who are thought badly of or what ever you think of me I will spend my life, what is left of it, to do andy harm I can to Wal-Mart even if it is only keeping one shopper out of its stores
I’m only in my eighties now but If I live to be 100 I just may have to be carried off from raising hell in from of my adopted store.

to Dale in
Friday, July 18 at 11:43 AM

So what you are saying is that as a Wal*Mart employee, you believe that Wal*Mart is great and the American People Suck?!!!!!!!! Good Gosh!!! They really do brainwash you people :(
Wal*Mart has never helped any body put food on their table. Americans had food on their table long before Wal*Mart! The big question is will they have food on their table AFTER Wal*Mart. Use your head brother! WAL*MART CREATES NOTHING! Except for the destruction of the middle class.
Good Luck, I hope you make it to greeter some day.

Wow Dale....wow. You must be kidding me. Do you want to know why Wal-Mart is one of the nations biggest employers? It is because they go into just about every small town in this country build some big ass box known as a Wal-Mart. Which in turn forces small family owned businesses that have been around for generations to close. Where else are these people going to work?? Wal-Mart. Good ole Wal-Mart. The guy who use to own the grocery store? They put him in the produce department. The guy who owned the hardware store? He is mixing paint at your local Wal-Mart. They go into these small towns with the INTENTION of closing these small family owned businesses! Good for America?? I think not! Now since all the family owned businesses are closed where is everyone going to shop at?? You got it...Wal-Mart were we are foced to buy products from China. Ever seen a empty Wal-Mart building that the city can do nothing with?? Why would they go a mile down the road a build a new box?? Weird huh??? You want to know why your local Wal-Mart is so against Unions?? Because if Wal-Mart had a union they would be forced to pay there employees a fair wage. I have not shopped at Wal-Mart in a long long long time. I choose to give my money to a company that is not out to ruin America. Wal-Mart has sure done a good job on you Dale. I think you have watched to many of their propaganda videos.....

Congrats to the winner by the way! If someone does make them into T-Shirts let me know.

WOW!  I Bet Wal-Mart is Quaking With Fear Now!

This website has become something less than a parody!

Now that the “official” Unofficial Logo Redesign Contest is history, I’m sure this will motivate Wal-Mart to change its ways.

And then there’s “mary.” Is she serious?  I’m sure her question to ddrb is purely rhetorical: “Do you think I am supposed to answer you?”

I’ve been asking that question for years of people like “Someone in USA,” RDS, and the long-departed “Whats His Name” from Pennsylvania when there were “demands” that I debate them or refute their “logic.”

And speaking of asking questions and not getting answers… we never did find out where WMW isimporting all these new postings from.  Where were all of these “concerned commenters” during the Wal-Mart ILC controversey, the Susan Chambers Memo incident, the Shank case commentary, and let’s not forget the “Deadly and Toxic” flip-flop scandal!

PLEASE MAKE CERTAIN THE TEE SHIRTS ARE NOT MADE OR PRINTED IN CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ddrb in
Friday, July 18 at 11:26 AM

DAMN

ddrb in is totally right!

otherwise, that would be ironic,

i love all logos! good job!

And speaking of asking questions and not getting answers… we never did find out where WMW isimporting all these new postings from.  Where were all of these “concerned commenters” during the Wal-Mart ILC controversey, the Susan Chambers Memo incident, the Shank case commentary, and let’s not forget the “Deadly and Toxic” flip-flop scandal!

Though I may not agree with you (ideologically speaking) on many things, you hit the nail on the head with this one, Mr. S…

Now if you would like to enlighten everyone how you ended up living “a few footsteps away” from a Walmart...

Funny how old “what’s her name” completely dodged your request, Mary, which is not all that surprising.

I’m convinced that WM’s “next door neighbor” may be about as “real” as the 90 or so others who commented on this thread…

Tabitha,

“Do you want to know why Wal-Mart is one of the nations biggest employers? It is because they go into just about every small town in this country build some big ass box known as a Wal-Mart. Which in turn forces small family owned businesses that have been around for generations to close”

Could you please explain to us all here, just how Wal-Mart forces “small family owned businesses that have been around for generations”, to close?

In order for those small businesses to close, the customers would have to ‘leave’ those stores and ‘go’ to Wal-Mart, right?  But, WHY would they do that?  What is it that makes a ‘loyal’ customer stop patronizing their ‘old’ store to go to a ‘new’ store?  If people ‘Liked’ their ‘old’ store in the first place, they would never set foot in the ‘new’ store, but, to do so, shows that they were unhappy with their ‘old’ store, and it deserved to close!!  Wal-Mart cannot FORCE people to shop there, it is the customers CHOICE!!

Go see who this guy is that keeps putting down Wal-Mart. He owns stock in other companies like Macy’s, Sears, Target ETC. They sell you ( us ) all the same made in China merchandise but for a lot higher price. So, he makes more profit from stupid people. All the other retailers also get their products from the same sources for the most part. Other employers don’t have any insurance available quite often,and many employers pay less than Wal-Mart,unless they have to pay State minimum wage.Sure, a good union store may ( or may not !) take better care of their employees,but most stores nowadays unfortunately don’t.And where does most everyone shop ? who ALWAYS has a full parking lot ? Who ALWAYS (almost ) has the best prices ? Wal-Mart.And no,I don’t work there,but I know people who do.They get paid just fine in comparison to lots of other jobs,and they at least have insurance,lots of places don’t even offer insurance. My friends who work for WalMart are happy there. So, why pay more for the same items from somewhere else ? And I like your new logo-T-Shirts ETC. It may put down a fine company, but hey,your still advertising their name !! lol !!

Walmart blows they are trying to put a 4th one up in my town by 2010. they just opened another supersuk center here last week. This is not sams waltons walmart. just because it say made in america is that north central or south? We never shop there my wife is Taiwanese (US citizen this Oct) and considers shopping walmart aiding the enemy a terrorist act. Me born and raised a USA citizen in springfield il. I feel the shame when my union brothers and sisters shop there and spams club. Pay to shop NEVER! Keep shopping there and soon you’ll speak chinese or some form of spanish, your jobs will disappear, and your doctors diploma will bear the big yellow smile. Since when does a made in china product last a year? Enjoy your poisened discount drugs, your really kewl lead painted toys, you’ll need to buy more to keep the 3 eyed kids from crying because you fed poor fluffy or sparky some of that great discount pet food. Move a company outside USA borders take your family with you. TRAITORS

People talk of how wal-mart prices keep going up and up, and yet, they still have the most affordable prices. so wouldn’t that mean that everyone else was as evil as they are claiming wal-mart is? And don’t you find it funny how most of the people trashing wal-mart on this e-mail, and everywhere else shops there at least once a week?

Sorry Chis but not everyone is shopping at walmart once a week, because I know that I will never step foot into that business ever again. Walmarts logo is Save You Money, So You can live better is far from the truth. So if you have never worked for Walmart you have no clue about the pricing. I for one did work there for 15 years and I know that their markup on items was very high and they would only pay pennies on a dollar, so they are getting richer and richer by the second everytime someone buys something from them. I dont find anything funny about trashing Walmart when in fact it is the truth about them. Go work for them and see how you are treated after putting 15 years into a company.

Jo,

“I for one did work there for 15 years and I know that their markup on items was very high and they would only pay pennies on a dollar”

So, you only worked for that terrible company for 15 years, isn’t that quite a long time to put up with being treated like a slave and being underpaid?  And, if their markups are so high, why is it that they only have a 3.5% profit margin?  Don’t forget, part of that markup went to pay YOUR wages and benefits, plus the overhead (remember, ‘markup’ does not equal profit)!!  Also, if Wal-Mart marks up their prices so high, just imagine how much the higher priced stores are marking up their’s!!

Since People Have Already Chimed in About Dale’s Spelling...

Does that “fabulous” wage you’re making at Wal-Mart soothe your conconscience and somehow make everything right?  How’s it feel to be a part of the problem instead of the solution?  If scumbags like you wouldn’t whore their labor to The Beast, websites like this wouldn’t be necessary!

Now, as far as your spelling.  Most of us here have decided a long time ago, to let occasional “typos” slide.  It happens to the best of us.  I can certainly understand why someone working for Wal-Mart would be challenged when it comes to spelling A-M-E-R-I-C-A.

But dude!  “Chines"? You really ought to know how to spell C-H-I-N-E-S-E or C-H-I-N-A!  Wal-Mart may some day soon be a wholly owned Chinese company.

And then there’s RDS with his ration of Ridiculous Daily Shit!  “just imagine how much the higher priced stores are marking up their’s!!”

Yeah...I was telling myself just yesterday as I was shopping at Target.  “Just imagine how a store can afford to actually put fixtures over it’s overhead store lighting---unlike the bare exposed flourescent bulb look of your average Wal-Mart.  Just imagine how a store could actually have shiny tiled floors instead of the sealed concrete look of your typical WM Supercenter.  Just imagine how I had no problem checking out in under 5 minutes.  Just imagine… I didn’t see a “customer service” department cluttered with about 10-12 fully loaded shopping carts with crap that was abandoned by shoppers looking for a bargain, and which some poor slave like Dale has to now restock.  I wonder if Wal-Mart could supply us with a figure of what it costs to constantly restock merchandise that is strewn about the store? 

Yeah, RDS.... just imagine what you all get when you’re willing to spend a little more!

For your information RDS Walmart wasnt that bad of a place to work for back starting in 1993. I enjoyed what I did, plus I had to support my family at the time too....unlike many others living off the goverment. Walmart started changing really bad about 3 years ago and they are just getting worst and worst as they go. You tell me , was it right for a Co-Manager of the store to come to me and tell me to take markdowns on clearance items and then 7 days later get fired for it, because he nows says that he didnt tell me to do it, I have now lost my only income for my family, not to mention the insurance too. Its not fair how that treat and get rid of their long term associates.
SCREWEDBYWALMART: you hit it right on the money about people leaving carts full of Merch. because Walmart wont hire enough cashiers to ring them out and yes I was one of those departments that had to put it back...cant blame the customers for what Walmart does but we had to take the heat for it while management sat on their asses back in the offices. Have you ever noticed how FAT alot of those managers are....lol.....thats because they do nothing but sit and eat!

You guys, some people just can’t spell. It’s not their fault and doesn’t mean that they are stupid. I know it’s easy to pick on something obvious like that but please remember it’s not totally indicative of their intelligence. My 2 cents—which wouldn’t buy a goddamn thing at any store, much less Wal-Mart :)

Dale said: “I have been with wal-mart for 5 years and make over $18.00 an hour.”

I’ve been there for 20 yrs and make $14/hr. Maybe the rate of pay is because I’m female????? I’ve also been cut back to P/T work since returning from medical leave a few yrs ago. I’m ready, willing, and able to work F/T, but they won’t because I my availablity is between 7-6pm. Surely they could put me into something F/T during those hours! Honestly, I’m *NOW READY* to start a career somewhere, anywhere else!!!!!!!!!!!

Current worker,have you read about the Dukes vs.WalMArt lawsuit? Sounds like an echo of the situation you describe:~~~~~~Wal-Mart Loses Bid to Block Group Bias Suit
Appeals Court Allows 2 Million Women to Seek Compensation Over Discrimination in Pay, Promotions

By Amy Joyce
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 7, 2007

A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that the largest sex discrimination lawsuit in U.S. history could proceed as a class action against Wal-Mart, which is accused of paying female workers less than men and giving them fewer promotions.

The ruling will allow about 2 million women who have worked for Wal-Mart since 1998 to seek compensation for
. A federal appeals court ruled Tuesday, Feb. 6, 2007, that Wal-Mart Stores Inc., must face a class-action lawsuit alleging Dukes and other female employees, including some of her fellow plaintiffs were discriminated against in pay and promotions. 

With nearly 2 million women, the lawsuit is the nation’s largest sex discrimination case filed against a business. Most large discrimination cases are settled out of court. The suit claims that Wal-Mart’s female employees receive lower pay and fewer promotions than male employees. But Wal-Mart’s lawyers argued that there is no pattern of discrimination.

“No amount of PR or spin is going to allow Wal-Mart to avoid facing its legacy of discrimination,” Brad Seligman, a lawyer and executive director of the Impact Fund, said in an interview. “Now two courts have ruled this trial should go forward. I expect they will attempt to further appeal, but I have great confidence the women will get their day.”

A class-action lawsuit allows a small number of plaintiffs to sue on behalf of a much larger group in a similar situation.

The judge in the original case ruled that the attorneys for the six named women presented SUFFICIENT evidence for a class-action suit, calling it “largely uncontested descriptive statistics which show that women working in Wal-Mart stores are paid less than men in every region, that pay disparities exist in most job categories, that the salary gap widens over time even for men and women hired into the same jobs at the same time, that women take longer to enter into management positions, and that the higher one looks in the corporate management,the less women one sees.

Richard Drogin, a statistician at California State University at East Bay hired by the plaintiffs, said that it took women an average of 4.38 years from the date of hire to be promoted to assistant manager, while it took men 2.86 years. It took 10.12 years, on average, for women to become managers compared with 8.64 years for men. He also found that female managers made an average salary of $89,280 a year, while men in the same position earned an average of $105,682 a year. The results for hourly workers show that women were paid 6.7 percent less than men in comparable positions.~~~~~~~~WaPo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yeah...I was telling myself just yesterday as I was shopping at Target.

Did you look beyond the buffed floors and drop ceilings at the bigger picture while you were there, Mr. Screwed?

While there is no doubt Target is an extremely well-run chain, it is certainly no “high-priced store”. 

Target, like WM and Kmart, is a discount store, plain and simple—one of the “big three”.

The only major difference for the shopper is Target has a tendancy to focus more on home and fashion, than, say hardware/garden, and auto parts.

Oh, and one other thing—it has been documented around the web that Target’s starting pay for part-timers is lower than WM.  Plus, Target does not offer health benefits to the large number of part-timers on the payroll.

I guess I should add that Target, like WM, is also on the UFCW’s radar, which is made evident at that company’s annual shareholder meetings near their Minnesota HQ.

Speaking of the BIGGER picture, maybe a BIGGER frame of refernce is in order regarding Minnesota, which has been at the forefront of much activity by WalMart and its minions of late. There’s the Katherine Kersten article where Edelman PR talking ppoints are inserted verbatim in a news article praising the viabilty of WalMart jobs. Then there’s the revelation by a local TV team that WalMart was behind an ad using Mafia type characters to dispel unionization.(Crooks and Liars website has video.). Lastly, the Senatorial campaign between Al Franken (D)and Norm Coleman (R),is highlighting two candidates whose philosophies of politics are diametrically opposed.Target Corporation,W/M’s premier rival is based in Minnesota-that no doubt is a thorn in Bentonville’s side.From the land of Minnehaha-think they’re laughing ?

BTW: For a touch of “gilding “on that bigger frame of reference,re: Katherine Kersten article:~~~~"According to a marketing executive, an Edelman executive providing media training to his firm said:

Sometimes, you just have to stand up there and lie. Make the audience or the reporter believe that everything is ok. How many times have you heard a CEO stand up and say “No, I’m not leaving the company” and then - days later - he’s gone. Reporters understand that you “had” to do it and they won’t hold it against you in your next job when you deal with them again. “~~~~~~Sourcewatch~~~~~~~

Target Corporation,W/M’s premier rival is based in Minnesota-that no doubt is a thorn in Bentonville’s side.From the land of Minnehaha-think they’re laughing ?

When it comes to the unions, I doubt it.

Though it often gets overlooked by you people, Target, like Wal-Mart is a non-union shop (and prefers to remain that way). 

Check it out…

Pretty smart of Target to sit back and let their rival ,WalMart , do the “dirty” work and take the PR hit in the press -and the pocketbook- if a non-union shop is what Target actually wants .

Screwedby,

“fixtures over it’s overhead store lighting”

Can I take them home with me?

“shiny tiled floors”

Can I take them home with me?

“checking out in under 5 minutes.”

Am I really that much in a hurry?

“a “customer service” department cluttered with about 10-12 fully loaded shopping carts”

I didn’t leave them there!!  They were probably left by people who can’t wait more than 5 minutes to check out or by those anti Wal-Mart groups that fill carts and then walk out of the store!!

“which some poor slave like Dale has to now restock”

In the case of the anti Wal-Mart groups, they are the ones making poor Dale work so hard!!

“Yeah, RDS.... just imagine what you all get when you’re willing to spend a little more!”

Like I said, which of those things do I GET to take home with me?  Why should I care about what I can’t take home with me?  But, the things I DO get to take home with me, are, the products I went to buy and my wallet with more money in it, then if I went to Target!!

BTW:  Care to tell everyone how it is that you know about all those things that Wal-Mart has, if you don’t go there!!

Jo,

“For your information RDS Walmart wasnt that bad of a place to work for back starting in 1993. I enjoyed what I did, plus I had to support my family at the time too”

And, how did you manage to support your family, being underpaid, with non-livable wages, for 15 years?

“Walmart started changing really bad about 3 years ago”

How can that be?  According to Ken V., Wal-Mart started changing really bad, when Lee Scott took over about 8 years ago!!

“Its not fair how that treat and get rid of their long term associates.”

Here’s where I have a problem, ‘Current SC Worker in OK’ has been with Wal-Mart for 20 years and is still working there, how come she is still working there, if they get rid of long term associates like you, after 15 years?  It has been my experience, that the longer an employee works ‘anywhere’, some of them think that they are entitled to work LESS and let the ‘newbies’ take on the brunt of the work, maybe, some people get ‘let go’ sooner, because of the fact that they are slacking off!! They are those LAZY people many associates talk about and customers see and can’t get any help from!!

Screwedby,

“fixtures over it’s overhead store lighting”

Can I take them home with me?

“shiny tiled floors”

Can I take them home with me?

“checking out in under 5 minutes.”

Am I really that much in a hurry?

“a “customer service” department cluttered with about 10-12 fully loaded shopping carts”

I didn’t leave them there!!  They were probably left by people who can’t wait more than 5 minutes to check out or by those anti Wal-Mart groups that fill carts and then walk out of the store!!

“which some poor slave like Dale has to now restock”

In the case of the anti Wal-Mart groups, they are the ones making poor Dale work so hard!!

“Yeah, RDS.... just imagine what you all get when you’re willing to spend a little more!”

Like I said, which of those things do I GET to take home with me?  Why should I care about what I can’t take home with me?  But, the things I DO get to take home with me, are, the products I went to buy and my wallet with more money in it, then if I went to Target!!

BTW:  Care to tell everyone how it is that you know about all those things that Wal-Mart has, if you don’t go there!!

Jo,

“For your information RDS Walmart wasnt that bad of a place to work for back starting in 1993. I enjoyed what I did, plus I had to support my family at the time too”

And, how did you manage to support your family, being underpaid, with non-livable wages, for 15 years?

“Walmart started changing really bad about 3 years ago”

How can that be?  According to Ken V., Wal-Mart started changing really bad, when Lee Scott took over about 8 years ago!!

“Its not fair how that treat and get rid of their long term associates.”

Here’s where I have a problem, ‘Current SC Worker in OK’ has been with Wal-Mart for 20 years and is still working there, how come she is still working there, if they get rid of long term associates like you, after 15 years?  It has been my experience, that the longer an employee works ‘anywhere’, some of them think that they are entitled to work LESS and let the ‘newbies’ take on the brunt of the work, maybe, some people get ‘let go’ sooner, because of the fact that they are slacking off!! They are those LAZY people many associates talk about and customers see and can’t get any help from!!

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Hmmm!!! RDS you are so full of shit! When did I ever say that I was underpaid? I stayed with the company because the pay I earned after 15 years was good for me to live off of. So since you have all the answers you tell me why they let me go? I never had a write-ups, coachings, or decision making days in the whole 15 years, plus I received above about standard yearly raises....hmmm does that sound like someone that has been lazy after 15 years of service...NOT!
I think the real reason they let me go because it was costing them so much in medical bills on my 7 year old daugther and we still have more surgeries to go this year. My daugther did nothing to this company and now we have to get the goverment and the rest of the working people out there to pay for these surgeries, how fair is that. I was a very hard worker, done my job very well and did other peoples jobs too. So dont you ever call me lazy, you piece of shit that you are!

RDS you are so full of shit!

Don’t let RDS get under your skin, Jo. He’s an old, disabled, dry-drunk, living out his quiet desperation in an obscure corner of Arkansas.

You worked for Wal-Mart and know what you’re talking about, something RDS has no experience with.

Thank you Ken V. .....He is far from getting under my skin and you are right I did work for Walmart and I am not ashame to admit to that either. God knows that I was let go unfairly but he is here and he wil take care of me and my family. So RDS you might want to look into letting God into your life, he does answer prayers!

Jo,

“RDS you are so full of shit! When did I ever say that I was underpaid?”

It isn’t me who says you were underpaid, I was just repeating what the other anti Wal-Mart people say!!

“I stayed with the company because the pay I earned after 15 years was good for me to live off of.”

Again, I was just repeating what the anti Wal-Mart people and this site say, According to people like SDV, ALL Wal-Mart workers ‘sleep in their junkie old cars out in the Wal-Mart parking lot’!!  Now, you say that your pay was ‘good enough to live off of’, catching them in another lie!!

“So dont you ever call me lazy”

I didn’t call YOU ‘lazy’, I was just expaining why SOME long term people get fired!!  What makes you think that I was talking about YOU when I said that?  I can’t say why you were fired, but, the person who has worked there 20 years and wasn’t fired, makes one wonder if it is really getting rid of long term workers or something else!!

Ken V.,

“You worked for Wal-Mart and know what you’re talking about”

Yes, and she said “I stayed with the company because the pay I earned after 15 years was good for me to live off of.”, just the opposite of what you and other anti Wal-Marters say!!

“He’s an old, disabled, dry-drunk, living out his quiet desperation in an obscure corner of Arkansas.”

And, you are a typical “I wish I were a ‘big shot’”, trying to impress everyone with your “I’m willing to spend more paying for ‘frills’”, “Everything is ‘bigger & better’ in Texas”, crusading for ‘the little guy’ and he’s not YOU, Texan!!

They say, ‘if you are not a part of the solution, you are part of the problem’, well, you are part of the group of people that push for a “Higher Standard of Living” and that is what got us to where families now need 2 incomes!!  People in the past, didn’t have to pay for T.V. (cable or satellite), didn’t have to have 2 cars and pay high gasoline bills, didn’t have to have a ‘cellphone’, with bills over $100.00 a month, didn’t have to pay for childcare, didn’t have to pay high prices for per-prepared foods (they cooked from scratch with healthy foods) and they didn’t care about ‘fancy’ signs or what was above the lighting at the store, they cared about taking care of their families and made ‘good’ use of the money they had!!  And, they also were able to have savings accounts, they didn’t have maxed out credit cards, to support their excessive ‘paying for frills’ buying habits, and they paid their bills without borrowing money against their houses or filing for bankruptsy!!  In other words they “lived within their means”!!  Lastly, there was someone at home to take care of the kids and keep them out of trouble!!

“obscure corner of Arkansas.”

Yeah, obscure with names like Wal-Mart, Tyson Foods and J.B. Hunt, names nobody ever heard of, right?

Don’t let RDS get under your skin, Jo. He’s an old, disabled, dry-drunk, living out his quiet desperation in an obscure corner of Arkansas.

And I suppose you’re just “perfect”, huh?

Why not tell us about your Arkansan excursion…

They say, ‘if you are not a part of the solution, you are part of the problem’, well, you are part of the group of people that push for a “Higher Standard of Living” and that is what got us to where families now need 2 incomes!!  People in the past, didn’t have to pay for T.V. (cable or satellite), didn’t have to have 2 cars and pay high gasoline bills, didn’t have to have a ‘cellphone’, with bills over $100.00 a month, didn’t have to pay for childcare, didn’t have to pay high prices for per-prepared foods (they cooked from scratch with healthy foods) and they didn’t care about ‘fancy’ signs or what was above the lighting at the store, they cared about taking care of their families and made ‘good’ use of the money they had!!  And, they also were able to have savings accounts, they didn’t have maxed out credit cards, to support their excessive ‘paying for frills’ buying habits, and they paid their bills without borrowing money against their houses or filing for bankruptsy!!  In other words they “lived within their means”!!  Lastly, there was someone at home to take care of the kids and keep them out of trouble!! ~~~~~~~RDS~~~~~~~~~Note: People in the past didn’t have WalMart ,either. Or the dollar and the American economy collapsing under the weight of Chinese imports,foreign investors ,or deregulated “free trade” policies like NAFTA,CAFTA, SHAFTA,.Isn’t hyperconsumerism the basis for WalMart’s existence and expansion?Seems you’re veering from the company’s talking points,arent you,RDS?By longing for the good ole days before WalMart.-when need ,not greed, reigned supreme?

“They say, ‘if you are not a part of the solution, you are part of the problem’, well, you are part of the group of people that push for a “Higher Standard of Living~"~~~~~~RDS : I agree with you. WalMart is NOT part of the solution. It is a MAJOR part of the problem.

Jo in: If you have reason to believe you were wrongfully discharged,you may want to type in” wrongful termination “into the search engine here,in the upper right corner of this page. Ofcourse, you can research the term “WalMart wrongful termination” on ANY search engine of your choice,Good luck!

Thank you Ken V.

You’re more than welcome, jo. Just because I advised you not to let RDS get under your skin doesn’t mean I won’t get under his (and his comic sidekick ‘bb’).

My description of RDS may seem a little harsh to some of you but it is taken from information supplied by RDS himself. His description of me, however, is pure speculation.
First of all I am a big shot!

:o)

HOME WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, for anyone who wants to make a real difference and raise the standard of living for about 80% of the US population, please educate yourselves about the following:
1) Right to work laws.
2) Urban Sprawl and the Cost to the US Taxpayer
3) Fuel Consumtion related to Urban Sprawl.
4) Urban Sprawl and the Credit/Foreclosure Crisis.
5) The Hisory of Pension Plans and 401K/IRA and the Vast Movement of American Wealth to the top 2% of individuals.
6) The Ratio of Personal Savings Accounts VS. Debt.

Just a few points:
1) Wal*Mart perfected the perversion of the right to work laws and have trained hundreds of US companies on how to hire enough employees to keep business growing and fire enough employees to keep benefit payments low. This is what Wal*Mart has “exported” for the American Employees.

2) Wal*Mart has consistantly used its political clout to encourage Urban Sprawl. In the next few years Poor City Planning is going to cost Tax Payer’s a lot more than the Iraq War, Illegal Aliens, Welfare and The Space Program Combined*.
*Fuel Consumption, Foreclosures, Lost Wages, Increased Crime, etc.

3) See Above

4) See Above

5) Remember Pension Plans? American’s even into the late 1980’s still had savings accounts, excellent medical coverage, and guaranteed retirement benefits. In the “Wal*Mart Millionair” America people are having trouble remembering those days. They take a chunk of your pay and invest it in their own stock. Hilarious!

6) We’re Broke! 88-95% af American Households owe more money than they have in liquid assets. The so called “Service Economy” is a great sham. Before the Great Depression it was called a “Paper Economy”.

Extra Credit!!!!!!!!
See if you can connect the dots and predict where we will be in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years and 40 years. Write your predictions and if you don’t jump out the window, I’ll give you a Gold Star!

You are talking sense, Bobby, unfortunately I believe things are going to have to get worse before the majority of people will listen.

...predict where we will be...

Soylent Green!

What’s good for Wal-Mart is BAD for America!

Ken V,

“but it is taken from information supplied by RDS himself.”

Sorry Ken, but I never said I was disabled, Screwedby said that when I said I was not draftable!!  He, on the other hand, was ready to run to Canada, if he received a draft notice!!  His point, was to make me look like a ‘draft dodger’, like he intended to be!!

RDS: Not all disabilities are physical.

“Again, I was just repeating what the anti Wal-Mart people and this site say, According to people like SDV, ALL Wal-Mart workers ‘sleep in their junkie old cars out in the Wal-Mart parking lot’!!  Now, you say that your pay was ‘good enough to live off of’, catching them in another lie!!”

RDS caught in another lie-
Tuesday, July 22 at 11:21 AM

Another total lie from RDS attempting to cast a false view. A few articles have appeared about homeless people sleeping in their cars at WalMart parking lots that I have used to illustrate the problems of poverty and the obvious connection to WalMart and the economic downturn in the lives of individuals and the nation in considerable part because of WalMart. I have never said or implied “ALL Wal-Mart workers ‘sleep in their junkie old cars out in the Wal-Mart parking lot” as RDS (aka imbecile #1!!) would have you believe while he carefully lies about it. However it probably just seems like “ALL Wal-Mart workers ‘sleep in their junkie old cars out in the Wal-Mart parking lot” to RDS because of the Jerkwater USA neighborhood he lives in and therefore he did not mean it as an exaggeration.

Report: In U.S., record numbers are plunged into poverty
Posted 2/25/2007 2:43 AM ET
Excerpts include-

“The McClatchy analysis found that the number of severely poor Americans grew by 26% from 2000 to 2005,” the U.S. newspaper chain reported.

“That’s 56% faster than the overall poverty population grew in the same period,” it noted.

The surge in poverty comes alongside an unusual economic expansion.

“Worker productivity has increased dramatically since the brief recession of 2001, but wages and job growth have lagged behind. At the same time, the share of national income going to corporate profits has dwarfed the amount going to wages and salaries,” the study found.

“We’re not seeing as much moderate poverty as a proportion of the population. What we’re seeing is a dramatic growth of severe poverty.”

RDS, You have a moral disability. You are a burden on the nation and society morally, just like WalMart. Lying is but just one symptom of the total problem/disease that WalMart has become. You RDS, are the typical propaganda cockroach that comes from the economic dumpster that WalMart is to the United States.

WalMart- ‘Living wage’? “Family wage’? ‘Health care benefits’? We don’t understand. And we don’t want to either. The Walton family multi-billionaires thank you for your poverty and the billions in public subsidies given to WalMart from the taxpayer suckers!

Ken V in Texas!!!
You have been awarded a Gold Star!!

I still have a few more to go arround!

Also, It’s easy to point out the problems. I’d love to hear some solutions! I’ll start things off, but please keep in mind that I may mention certain political figures, I am a registered Democrat and vote Independent. This being said, here goes.

1) Revoke the “Right to Work Laws. (these were bi-partisan).

2) When Christie Todd Whitman was Governor of New Jersey, She cut off all Government incentives for delelopment of “Urban Sprawl” and implemented a moratorium on New Contruction, Severly hampering Attempts by Companies like Wal*Mart from expanding outward. Now Christie isn’t perfect, she also told all the Workers at Ground Zero in Manhattan that the air was fine…

3) Encourage local governments to end all Tax Incentives for developers who want to expand Urban Sprawl. Let these Tax Benifits go to people who want to build up our current neighborhoods and infrastructure.

4) Don’t shop at Wal*Mart and don’t own more than few shares of stock. It’s OK to keep a couple, this way you get their corporate reports, etc. Know Your Enemy!

5) Check all your funds for Wal*Mart stock and dump it or them.

Gols Stars for more solutions!

Bobby: How about this idea? Find out if your state has enacted legislation yet on the issue of combined tax reprting? This closes tax loopholes that allow corporations to avoid paying that individual state their fair share of tax revenue-monies that are needed to provide public services and maintain infrastructure. Closing these loopholes will save billions in precious tax dollars each year. It will also close the door on REITSand PICS and other tax dodge schemes. Much info is here on this site,already. Type in combined reporting in search engine. But beware, the fight doesn’t stop there. WalMart lobbyists are already at work with individual state legilators,as in Massachusetts, to insert wording that will neutralize or mollify the combined tax reporting to a degree. (WalMart is,IMHO, a publicly subsidized venture. Way past the time to cut off this Welfare King’s kingsize check.)

ddrb
GOLD STAR!!!!
I Knew you had superior intelligence from the first time you replied to my post!  : )

You are dead on with your suggestion! Corporate Welfare has got to go! I am also a big fan of taxing companies (like Wal*Mart) who take advantage of the system with regards to medicaid, food stamps, etc. These should be for the people who need them. Wal*Mart has signed on in support of a national healthcare plan. I too support a National Healthcare Plan. The difference is that while I want to help all Americans recieve the proper medical care they deserve and Wal*Mart just would preffer not to have to pay ANY medical coverage for their employees! Wolf in sheeps clothing? Another Hillary connection? Companies like Wal*Mart should foot the bill for a National Healthcare system. See if they still support it then.

Still More Gold Stars…
Anybody Else?

Bobby: You are very kind.Thank you.Would you happen to know if WalMart purchases all those Chinese imports in dollars,or do they convert the dollars to Chinese money and THEN buy it from China?.Seems the rate of exchange couold have an impact on the rate of exchange and the valuation of OUR dollar,since WalMart buys such vast quantities of goods from China. I have not ever heard this discussed here or anywhere else.Any idea?

Well now that is an interesting question. It’s no secret that the Chinese started pegging their currency against the US Dollar in an act of ecconomic warfare back in the Early 1990’s. This along with promisses of huge orders from Wal*Mart made it very lucrative for US manufacturer’s to move production to China. It was 1994 when mattell posted their bigest year ever. The entire company was celebrating. About a week later they informed their staff that they would be closing their US factories and moving to China. This was a test business model that Wal*Mart used with 100’s of US manufacturers. We’ll promise to buy this much stuff if you sell it to us at this low price. The US manufacturers say “but we can’t sell it that cheap, it’s below cost of production!” and Wal*Mart says “Sure you can and we will show you how...” I don’t know what kind of deal was set up between Wal*Mart, the Clinton administration and the Chinese. What we do know is that millions of US dolars were pooring into Arkansas (into a Chinese Restaurant no less!). At about the time the Government started investigating this, we all got distracted by someone named Monica Lewinsky and that was the last anybody was interested in the Chinese Pay-Offs in Arkansas… I would assume that one of the reasons that our Government has let the Dollar drop so low is to protect what few exports we have left. Otherwise our entire economy would collapse. I’m sure this isn’t good news for anybody using Chinese manufacturing because the cost after tarriffs, shipping, etc. actually make for a pretty even playing field. The Chinese however, can make their currency worth what ever they want and I can assure you that they have NO intention of losing this Economic War with the United States. Remember also that Wal*Marts World headquarters is no longer in Bentonville, it is in China. If I had to guess I would say they have a very complex currency exchange system that involves Currency Trading and 24hr interest turn-arround. Sorry if I couldn’t answer your question. Let’s open it up!
Can Anybody Answer ddrb’s question?
Gold Stars still available.

Bobby: Thanks for your reply- it is certainly informative and thought provoking,too.  It maybe wouldn’t be necessary for exchange rates now,if the world headquarters is in China-just buy it there with the existing Chinese currency and export here.( Perhaps Robert D. Feinman could give us some insight-he’s a real finance guru,who occasionally stops by). The scope and extent of the Clinton Administration’s many affiliations are well beyond my grasp,but World Net Daily website has an extensive, decade’s worth of history on the subject.You would find MUCH of interest in their archives . Just use the search engine on their site. Thanks again for the reply AND the star.

Just a Quick FYI:
I will be voting Democrat in the upcoming convention, UNLESS Hillary gets on as the VP… I never disliked Bill Clinton. I do get exasperated by the American public’s attention span (or lack there-of). What a bunch of sheep! The small business administration was run FAR better under The Clinton Administration than by Bush 1 or 2. I think it is time that we have seperation between Multi-National Corporations and State, Just Like we SHOULD have Seperation of Church and State. It was Mussollini who said he wasn’t Fascist, he and Adolf Hitler were simply Corporatist…
I’m no commie… But there has to be some kind of balance.

Bobby: “When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” Sinclair Lewis,"It Can’t Happen Here.”

BTW:Remember when anti-trust (RICO) was actually enforced?

Allas,
The Law, RICO, and all of the Anti Monopoly laws have been perverted and ingnored, First on the local political levels and then condoned and encouraged by the Federal Government. All in an effort to disguize the nature of the true state of our economy.
I wonder how many pro Wal*Mart people besides the poor un educated employees and the bone heads who have failed to equate their own fiscal health and the fact that things cost money and they are not, nor should they be free.
People want things cheap. They deserve things cheap, they have been ripped off, etc. As Homer Simpson say’s “DOH!!”
Guess What Wal*Mart shoppers?! You can’t afford to shop any place else because you shop at Wal*Mart! You are victims of your own self generated downward spiral!
I think that the Wal*Mart Question should be put to everyone seeking election to public office. I don’t want my tax dollars going to pay for food stamps and medicaid for people who work and shop at Wal*Mart! They are the problem and NOT the solution..
Wise up bone heads : )

ddrb you are due a Platinum Star!

GOLD STARS TO ANYONE WHO CAN DESCRIBE AN AMERICA WITHOUT WAL666MART!

I’ll start with 3 things:
An America that is sef sufficient.
A Growing MIDDLE CLASS.
A Secure Future For ALL AMERICANS (not just the ones with dual pass ports)

Anybody Else?

Bobby,

“GOLD STARS TO ANYONE WHO CAN DESCRIBE AN AMERICA WITHOUT WAL666MART!”

Here’s some:

1.5 million people added to the unemployment roles and government welfare!!

Target takes over No. 1 retail spot and keeps importing from China, filling the gap caused by the demise of Wal-Mart and they keep building more and more stores until they reach the size Wal-Mart is today!!

‘New’ blogs are started, by the SEIU called TargetWatch, and one by the UFCW, called WakeUpTarget and the only change, would be anti Target, instead of anti Wal-Mart!!  Target doen’t get a union in either!!

In the end, NOTHING will have changed, except the name!!  The U.S. is not going to go back to the “Industrial Age’, no more than they will go back to the ‘Agricultural Age”!!  Globalization is here to stay, get used to it!!  If you don’t move forward, you get left behind!!

Tip:  The only people who can win, are people who play the game!!

RDS,

Your analogy is spot-on—and it ties-in with the anti-thinking that if they can bring WM to their knees, Target and the rest will surely follow.

Wise up bone heads : )

Bobby - how far did you get in Kentucky talking like that?  Is that why you’re in NY/L.A., now?

ddrb you are due a Platinum Star!

Don’t humor her…

RDS in & bbrd in :
Wal*Mart created and/or perfected the business model used by Target and all of the “Big Box” stores. Since the model is based on cheap off shore goods and cheap in house labor all of those 1.5 million people at Wal*Mart and the Millions of others working for their “Spawn” would be no worse off working under a business model that was a little more “Pro American Citizen” and Pro America. I happen to consider myself a patriot. It hurts me when I see my fellow citizens who work their butts off, struggling to make ends meet. Destroying all the decent paying jobs and then hiring 1.5 million desperate people is not anything to be proud of… Unless you are sitting in the corporate board room (yes, I’ve been there too).
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. America was great before Wal*Mart and if it can survive it will be great after Wal*Mart.
God Bless Us Everyone! America Rocks!!!!
And a platinum Star to RDS in for having an opinion and expressing it well!

RDS: Congrats on getting a platinum,too!

RDS in & bbrd in :
Hi,
I was just watching the housing data come in.. Pretty grim.. Lot’s of worthless houses in neighborhoods that sprung up arround big box economic zones. We can do better.
If you own stock in ANY big box stores (especially Wal*Mart), move it to companies that want to create environmentally friendly manufacturing jobs in the US. Seek out the companies that depend least on petrolium based products. Oh, and Google Tesla Motors! This is a way cool company! This is the America of the future. Great business model. And last hears to all the athletes competing (choking) at the Bejing Olympics! One good thing about Wal*Mart is that they helped to send all of our pollution to China!

A question for Dale, What store do you work at and what is your position? I worked there for 7 years and never came close to 11.00 so whats your secret? And don’t tell me it’s doing a good job. Been there done that.

Bobby,

“Wal*Mart created and/or perfected the business model used by Target and all of the “Big Box” stores. Since the model is based on cheap off shore goods and cheap in house labor all of those 1.5 million people at Wal*Mart and the Millions of others working for their “Spawn” would be no worse off working under a business model that was a little more “Pro American Citizen” and Pro America.”

If the other ‘big boxes’ are following the Wal-Mart model, what makes you think that the others would ‘change’ that model (the one that took Wal-Mart to the top), to a more “Pro America” model?  It is my contention, that we Americans did this to ourselves, by demanding a ‘higher standard of living’, to the point where we priced our ‘labor’ out of the Global Market!!  Sam Walton, with his ‘Buy American’ program, said that he would buy American, as long as it was no more than 10% over competitive foreign prices, labor costs made this prohibitive, so the companies moved production overseas!!  In order to operate in the Global Market, labor costs have to be competitive, like it or not, and I contend, if you compare a ‘poor’ person in the U.S., with a ‘poor’ person in most other countries, the average U.S. ‘poor’ person has it pretty good!!

RDS
Hi,
I don’t believe American Labor priced itself out of the market. If you look at the US history in the global market you will see that America has always been an inovater and master of efficiency. I could go back to Henry Ford but I don’t have the time at the moment. The US Government had a trade deal with Japan that allowed them to “dump” product for decades into the US market in return for not selling high technology products to the USSR. This gave the Japanese a clearly unfair advantage over US Manufacturers and brought about the demise of the US electronics industry and made way for Toyota to become the dominant auto maker in the world. The American workers were told over and over that this was their fault and that they were lazy and over paid. At the end of the Cold War, Japan took in on the chin when we opened up trade with South Korea. When we forced them to play by the rules their economy almost collapsed. Then we get China… Korea (a Democracy) got about 3-4 years of economic gain with the US when we did something really off the Wall. We after spending billions (trillions?) of tax payer dollars fighting the Cold War (see Japan Dumping). Gave China a free hand right into Americans pocket books and our very National Security. Now if you want to be a globalist that’s fine. Just don’t expect America’s infrastructure to last another decade. Crumbling roads and bridges, Dangerous neighborhoods, no health care, no retirement, big increase in all crime violent and otherwise and a decline in education. This is what we call a self generating downward moving spiral. The way we stop this is to take a breath, stop all the nasty habits and admit we are lost and get back on the right road. America can have a bright future in the Global Market place with Fair not Free Trade. America votes with its wallet. The country is run out of the corporate board rooms. The true Globalist who are making a lot of money. Are going to squeeze every penny out of the American Citizens until there is nothing left to sqeeze. In a global economy the rich can just move to a new country. Where does that leave the rest of us?

Bobby: Do you not detect the stirrings of a strategy to begin indocrinating Americans into a “subservient” mentality?To substantiaally whitlle down not only our freedoms, but to indoctrinate us into submissive ,whimpering acceptance of” less” as the new standard where we are to submit to “less is more”.Less expectations, less education,less income,less independence,less food,-the list goes on. Less for most,but not for all.Where does that leave the rest of us? Left out ,more or less.

I worked there for 7 years and never came close to 11.00 so whats your secret~~~~~Patty in Minnesota~~~~~Just a guess. Maybe Dale is male?

Bottom line: going into any walmart is a totally unhuman, not to mention unAmerican, experience; if you want better wages, don’t go anywhere near them, don’t frequent them, shop in them, work in them, or else, that will be all that is left...you want to know why gas prices are so high, because walmart imports everything from across the globe, you want to know why wages are stagnant, because they are artificially low at walmart....quality of life is not a term used at walmart, and it is sad that sam walton meant something totally different and his heirs c r a p p e d all over his message......

Town boards need to wake up, limit sizes on retail, FORCE these bozos worth trillions, especially walmart, the largest company on the planet, to post a demolition bond, ensure walmart cannot undercut in prices, enforce the robinson-pitman act that our current govt. ignores, and ensure fairness for ALL companies....STOP giving out taxpayer dollars like candy for big-boxes who ruin our lives....ALWAYS!!!

I have seen the damage repeatedly when walmart gets a better offer or upgrades!!!! Towns can do their long-term own cost-benefit analysis....and see what they come up with....you want one surefire way to ruin quality of life in your town, and any unique aspects of your community, just allow these scum in.......and ignore your downtowns!!!!

All Americans need to fight right now......apathy will be the destruction of all of us!!!!!

America and being American will be redefined in the years ahead. Thanks to US, China has the fastest growing economy in the World. Now I like Sesami Chicken and Egg Rolls as much as anybody else. I have also run a company that based its manufacturing in Shenzhen. DHL made alot of money. Lots of container loads arriving in Oakland. I also was a manager at a company that hired Lee Scott and his cronies to help with our IPO and national expansion. Make no mistake, If you have a great idea for a product, I can have it manufactured and distributed so fast you would not believe it. We are thr richest country in the world. There is a reason that the gap between the haves and have-nots has been growing at a blinding pace. It has everything to mdo with population. See, while America has been a good world citizen and not multiplying like bunnies, Certain Countries, China not the worst but certainly a chief offender have been hard at work making (besides lots of cheap goods) New Chinese people. From a marketing standpoint this is a Gold Mine! Billions of people to sell stuff too!! Yee Hah!!! Never mind Tiananmen Square or the fact that people who need new organs can simply fly over for a vacation and wait for organs from a recently executed “Criminal” political or otherwise. Or the fact that right now there are tours of displays touring the world (maybe coming to your town) of dead Chinese people that have been plastisized. Hold on a second, I’m going to order some Broccoli and Chicken, Brown Rice and an Egg Roll, Fresh Mustard and Duck sauce. The reallity is that while the Chinese make some great food. They have a horrible record on Human Rights. This is ironic and makes the Chinese government a perfect partner for Wal*Mart. The Chinese government hates US. Please make no mistake. They would like your body on display with the skin ripped off. And if some of you Wankers don’t wake up, you may get your wish. I believe God gave us free will. I believe that America became the greatest country in the world for a reason. Tomorrow is a New Day… What are you going to do with it?

I Swear In just odered Chinese food!!!! Writing that last post gave me the munchies!!!! But after hanging up the phone I remembered 2 words of wisdom that my father left me with during my Boy Scout Days....
1) Don’t Sh*t where you eat!
2) Don’t P*ss Upstream
3) It’s all Pink on the inside (oh wait that’s not really relevent) SORRY…
God Bless America!

HILLARIOUS!!!
Please bare in mind I had to live through 9/11!

The original GSA estimate of $85 million should have been $18.5 million, according to figures released by GSA and FEMA. ...GSA officials were asked recently to reassess the total cost of donated items in what the agency called a routine audit. “In doing so, it was determined that some of the unit costs were ‘eaches’ and others were ‘for-case’ lots.
The final adjustments reveal there was a significant overstatement in the total asset valuation,” GSA officials reported to FEMA, which released the findings Monday. For example, each spork was assigned the value of an entire case, inflating the original estimated value of the supplies a thousandfold to $36 million from $36,000. Packs of toilet paper originally estimated to be worth $1.5 million dropped to about $18,000, and plastic cutlery kits, from $6.3 million to about $25,000.”

This of course begs that we ask the obvious question: Where the hell does one find individually-sold sporks, let alone generate a price listing for one? Where, I ask you?

No, the obvious question is actually, “The government thought they were sending Katrinians THIRTY SIX MILLION dollars’ worth of SPORKS? And no one saw this as odd?”

“Hey there, friend. We’re sorry your house blew away and/or flooded, not necessarily in that order; here, have some sporks. No, really, take as many as you want.”

No one found it odd that 42% of Katrina aid had apparently been spent on sporks? This goes beyond failure of oversight. Someone failed to oversee, undersee, or see anything outside the inside of their own ass. -Alex Brant-Zawadzki

Tags: Federal Emergency Management Administration, FEMA, General Services Administration, GSA, Katrina, overestimate, spork

Hello!
All No-it All’s! How does it feel?
Dunkin’ Donuts Got 310 Million of your tax dollrs after 9/11. Want to know how many Dunkin Donut’s were afected by 9/11? 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Below 14th street! Your tax dollars at work! I hope you choke on your Subway sandwhich! Wnakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry…
Too Much Spicy mustard…
I went with Sesami Chicken! Good Choice! I’m loking forward to seeing all of you pro-Wal*Mart bodies on display at the South Street Sea-Port! It was nice coresponding with you! I can hardly wait to see your guts!
Love,
B

A little too over the top…
I’m going to go find my happy place now.
As Edward R. Murrow used to say “Good Night and Good Luck”
Buy and Sell American! Love your Country, The People who live in it, and each other.

As a former employee, I would love to have one of the ...poverty, sweat shops, toxic toys… or Where Employees always work for less. Always… logos on a t-shirt.
I went to work for them because I needed a job and benefits, sadly I made more on unemployment and had better benefits!!!!  Fortunately my doctor did not charge me for office visits and got me as many medication samples as he could because even with generics, I could not afford them!! 
AND to Dale who loves working for Walmart because they are so fare to all there workers best of luck and I hope you stay in good health.

ddrb in,
Hi,
Sorry about my somewhat passionate post. I can tell everyone on this board that Chinese food goes great with a bottle of Chevis Regal. But moving on..."Do you not detect the stirrings of a strategy to begin indocrinating Americans into a “subservient” mentality?” This started at the end of the 70’s and became a full blown assault durring the Reagan administration. It was, and is a “strategy”. It is a part of someones “Business Plan” for America. The part that scares me is that any good business plan has what is called an “exit strategy”. The exit strategy is what the heads of the compamy exercise when theier model becomes irrelevant or un-sustainable. The American Citizens are slowly being bled dry. If you toof away the top 5% of our population we wouldn’t be the richest country in the world anymore. That means 95% of our population are a bunch of poor SOB’s! Since Reagan we have gone from the longest living socciety in the world to the 17th. Our middle class, who make up 80% of the population, have been kept at odds over every thing that can be thrown at them. Illegal Aliens, Gay Marrage, Wars, Monica Lewinski, OJ Simpson and the list goes on. What scares the top 2% of our Nations Citizens is that we start acting as a people again, put asside our differences (most of which are nothing more than marketing ploys) Sold to Americans, like giant bulk boxes of cheap toilet paper. Democracy is a great thing and it works, but there are some people who would prefer that we remain devided. They would rather that we be forced to vote with our pathetic wallets than as the greatest Democracy the World has even known.

RDS and all other Wal-Mart Supporters
Guys, I worked for this company for 17 years. I worked my way from a salesfloor associate to an assistant manager and it does nothing but get worse the further you go up the chain. This company is dirty, it treats it’s associates dirty and trains and expects the management to treat associates dirty in the “interest of the company”. This company gave a $10 million bonus to it’s CEO-CHIEF unEthical One!! while we
as taxpayers pick up their slack in providing foodstamps, medicare, WIC and other social services to thier associates.
In addition, this company makes their profit while breaking the backs of their associates. If you are hurt on the job or serve no further purpose to this company , then they kick you to the curve. We have Armco Steel and Marathon Oil in my town, which their employees receive great benefits-they pay significantyly less for much better coverage, and pay
$15-25/hour in wages and I believe our associates work
harder than theirs do, and they do not make $100 million in sales nor do their CEO’s get $10 million in a bonus. This is absurd.  In the future you really should look at the entire scope of a situation prior to taking a stance and become ridculing someone because they can not spell-who cares!! It does not and should not diminish someone’s opinion.  Grow up and get real..It is ignorance like yours that Wal-Mart looks for -I know, I was ignorant too until I wised up and moved on to better things like my life and my family. 

Just call me enlightened and no longer Ignorant!!
regarding this company.

Wal*Mart, China and the failure of our Democracy..
Nobody knows a Wolf better than another Wolf. China has only to look at the parasitic havoc run by Wal*Mart on it’s US host. And nobody knows Wal*Mart Better than the Communist Leadership which knows a thing or two about keeping their people in line. Even the communist have insisted on a union in Wal*Mart. What do they know that you don’t. And the workers are getting paid by our nations wealth going over there. I’m not a racist (see Chise food post) and I’m not really pro or con Unions. But blatant abuses of the public’s trust must be dealt with. If Wal*Mart doesn’t want a union, fine. But let’s overhaul or abolish all states “Right to Work” Laws.

Wal-Mart’s latest agreement with the Chinese government is proof that if you’re going to do business in China, you’ve got to play by the rules.

The U.S. retailer, the world’s largest, said Friday it had reached collective bargaining agreements with China’s official union, the All-China Federation of Trade Unions (ACFTU), in several cities. Wal-Mart (nyse: WMT - news - people ) operates more than 100 of its namesake stores throughout China and employs 48,589 people.

Dave Orlins, president of the National Committee of U.S. China Relations, said the agreement is crucial to Wal-Mart’s business. “To expand in China, one needs government support,” he says. “This is what you should be doing in China.”

And Wal-Mart knows as much.

“We support these efforts because of the valuable, mutually beneficial partnership the government-run union offers and because of their commitment to assisting businesses in our growth and development in China,” said Kevin Gardner, a Wal-Mart spokesman.

The famously anti-union Wal-Mart has been something of a poster child for the Chinese government’s drive to get all foreign-owned enterprises to recognize the ACFTU. The collective bargaining agreements come two years after the retailer yielded to sustained pressure to allow the union, the only one officially sanctioned in China, to organize at its local outlets.

Collective bargaining is a requirement of the Labor Contract Law that came into effect at the start of this year.

Wal-Mart made its first agreement in Shenyang, in the northeastern province of Liaoning, on July 14 to increase employees’ pay by 8% in both 2008 and 2009, a Wal-Mart spokeswoman told the AFP news network.

Dan Harris, a U.S. attorney who represents small businesses in foreign markets with his firm Harris & Moure and writes the widely respected China Law Blog, says an 8% pay increase this year made sense. But the same amount next year sounds “strange,” since there’s no telling what inflation will be a year from now, he adds.

Official figures show consumer prices rose by 7.1% in June, well above the government’s target of 4.8% for the year. Food prices have risen much faster, climbing at annual rates of 20%.

“Is this an admission by Wal-Mart that it wasn’t paying enough? I don’t know.” says Harris.

In addition, unions in Shenzhen, in the southern Guangdong province, and in Quanzhou, in the southeastern Fujian province, secured similar pay rises on Wednesday and Thursday, respectively, the Wal-Mart spokeswoman said

Mary in Ashland, Ky
Hello,
I was indoctrinated to Wal*Marts management techniques in the mid 1990’s. It was sickening and I wound up leaving the company that I was with for 6 years because the new management techniques were implemented. You use the term “dirty” describing the management. Were you ever asked to change someone’s schedule just to stress and freak them out? Funny but about half of our top managers were divorced within a year. And, you are right on the money. It gets much worse the higher you go.
Thanks for a well written post. And buy th way. I can spell but I chose not too : )
B
Platinum Star to Mary for a great post and for being from Ky!

Mary in Ashland, Ky,

“Guys, I worked for this company for 17 years. I worked my way from a salesfloor associate to an assistant manager and it does nothing but get worse the further you go up the chain. This company is dirty, it treats it’s associates dirty and trains and expects the management to treat associates dirty in the “interest of the company”.”

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Wal-Mart is as ‘bad’ as you say, why did it take you 17 years to figure that out?  Either you are not quite telling the truth, or you are not very observant!!  Chances are greater, that something happened that ticked you off and you are out for revenge!!

RDS in
RE:Mary in Ashland, Ky.
Maybe Mary, ans a lot of people working at Wal*Mart woul LOVE to quit and get another job. Maybe they stay there because in our “Wal*Mart economy” The options have become very limited. What do you suggest a worker at Wal*Mart worker do after putting in years lured by empty promises? Go out and become a Doctor or a Lawyer? An Exotic Dancer? A factory worker ? Heavy Machinery Operator? What are the other jobs in the American Work*Force That Wal*Mart prepares it’s workers for? Where do they go?
All Due Respect,

RDS in
RE:Mary in Ashland, Ky.
Oh, I left one out.. How about a Financial Analyst or Investment Banker? These jobs have flourished in our Wal*Mart economy!!! Bank of America, Wal*Mart, and Haliburton. Wal*Mart moved its main Headquarters to China. Haliburton moved it’s headquarters to Dubai. Bank of America is about to Fail, maybe they schould have moved to North Korea or Iran… Folks, if you lie down with dogs you might get fleas. Until Democracy is returned to the United States, you MUST vote with your wallet. Do the right thing.
Happy Sunday!

RDS in
RE:Mary in Ashland, Ky.
Oh wait! Scratch the Banking and Financial Sectors! These industries are floundering! No jobs there, just layoffs and failures. Welcome to America in the Global Economy! Are the chickens coming home to roost? Exotic Dancers still can make a pretty good living, especially in the “Service Sector” in the VIP room : ) Anybody got singles for a Twenty?

I like your zeal, Bobby. I hope after a few deep breaths you’ll continue to post.

“Our priorities are that we want to dominate North America first, then South America, and then Asia, and then Europe,” ~ Wal-Mart’s President and CEO David Glass told USA Today business reporter Lorrie Grant November 10, 1999.

Platinum Star Ken! I’m breaking out the oxygen tank right now! Oh wait that was NitrusssszzzzZZZZ....

Bobby and Mary in Ashland ,Kentucky,for all you do,this one’s for you!~~~~~~~~~In contradiction to the assumption that all WalMart employees should be “happy as clams” with the WalMart way here is contradictory evidence:~~~~~~~~The 401(k) suit against Wal-Mart—Braden v. Wal-Mart was filed in March and is currently seeking class-action status—claims that the company breached its duties as a fiduciary by allowing its 401(k) plan participants to be charged “unreasonably expensive” fees. In its answer, Wal-Mart said disclosures about such things as “how investments options were selected” or “revenue sharing arrangements” are “demonstrably immaterial to any investment decision faced by participants.”

In addition, Wal-Mart accused the suit of disregarding the relation of the fees to the overall costs of administering the plan and ignoring “the economics of participant directed individual account plans.” The company pointed out that the Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) does not call for plan fiduciaries to consider only price when selecting investment options or select the least expensive options.

The case was filed on March 27, 2008, against Wal-Mart on behalf of the Wal-Mart Profit Sharing and 401(k) Plan under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, or ERISA. Braden v. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., alleges that Wal-Mart and others, as fiduciaries of Wal-Mart’s retirement plan, failed to act solely in the interests of the participants and beneficiaries of the Plan, and failed to exercise the required skill, care, prudence, and diligence in administering the Plan’s assets from January 31, 2002, through the present.

The complaint claims Wal-Mart selected and offered to Plan participants unreasonably expensive retail funds, despite the ready availability of reasonably priced high-quality investment options. As a result, the plan squandered tens of millions of dollars of participants’ retirement savings in order to pay for overpriced mutual funds, which, on top of everything, significantly underperformed their benchmarks. This resulted in larger fees being spent on inferior products.

Based on conservative estimates, the Plaintiff in Braden estimated Wal-Mart’s actions have caused the plan to waste over $60 million of participants’ retirement savings on excessive fees and unreasonable expenses alone – and will continue to do so at the rate of $20 million per year if allowed to continue. In addition, the complaint describes at length what the Plan would have been worth had it made responsible investment choices – for example, at year end of 2007, the Plan Investment Options were worth $2.861 billion, while an investment in index funds would have been worth $3.002 billion, or $140 million more.

The suit is seeking Wal-Mart and defendants to “make good to such plan any losses to the plan,” as well as any other equitable or remedial relief as the court may deem appropriate. The plaintiff is seeking the Court to adopt the measure of loss most advantageous to the Plan, putting the participants in the position they would have been had the plan been properly administered. This could be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. It is believed this class action could number over 1,000,000 participants. ~~~~~~~~~WMW~~~~~~~~~~~~Note WalMart’s position:......"In its answer, Wal-Mart said disclosures about such things as “how investments options were selected” or “revenue sharing arrangements” are “demonstrably immaterial to any investment decision faced by participants.”. WHOA! What was that about arrogance again? And what about driving down costs,and driving a hard bargain?Seems like the 401k investors are the ones being squeezed instead of the vendors,in this case purveyors of high priced-low yield mutual funds, according to the legal complaint. You were right,Bob about which job sector is the TRUE growth industry.

ddrb in
This sucks because I look dreaful Naked!!!! Thanks for researching while I’ve been blathering.
A Diamond Encrusted Star to You. And too the rest of you, beware of retirement plans that heavily invest in your own company...If you are voting with your wallet then you should be given a choice. We’re not a Communist Province yet. Speaking of choice did you know that Wal*Mart plays a huge roll in what products companies like Mattel, etc. manufacture. With their huge buying power, Wal*Mart routinely kills new and inovative products just by telling the Manufacturers they don’t want them. This causes a huge problem with consumer’s choice in the market place. the monopoly laws don’t cover this and are antiquated. So we need to have the Right to work laws as well as the anti monopoly laws re-written. The problem here is we have a congress, Senate and President who are all globalist and owned by the corporations. So if they did re-write the laws, we’d be really screwed. Is ther a list of anti-Wal*Mart candidates?

Bobby, Have you availed yourself of any of the other threads here besides this one? If you go to WMW homepage and click on to “blog “in the top of the page-you’ll find lots of recent comments on current topics. Of particular interest may be the the posts about ports being built in Mexico to bypass American ports. (Its the thread about buying local produce,if I’m not mistaken).Please, take a look- there is much that would pique your interest,IMHO.( BTW,I"m hoarding the gold,platinum and diamond stars-I’ll NEED them,no doubt.LOL)

Taxation Without Representation…
We The People…
Of the People, For The People, By The People…

It is “By the People right? Did I read it wrong? Does it actually say “Buy The People”?

Do the Right to Work Laws circumvent The Emancipation Proclamation?

Did somebody write a separate US Constitution for Corporations?

Again I urge everyone to read the Capitalist Philosophers. I can assure you the top Wal*Mart management has.

This country was well on it’s way to a soccialist revolution before the Unions got things in order. Keeping the American workers pacified has been the chief concern of Corporate America since before and after the World War. The Cold War was Great for the American Workers because there was a real threat that corporations could be done away with in a soccialist/communist America. So to great degree the American Workers owe a great deal to the USSR for keeping the people our Parents worked for in Order. It is no coincidence that the fall of the US middle class completely co-incides with the fall of the Soviet Union. The beauty of the Global Economy for Corporate America is that it doesn’t have to care squat about the average US Citizen anymore.

And too the rest of you, beware of retirement plans that heavily invest in your own company...Bobby~~~~~~~~~Do you remember when Enron executives were enthusiastically goading on their employees to buy as much stock as possible in Enron,while they were divesting themselves,simultaneously of said stock? (Now, I’m not comparing WalMart to Enron-so don’t get your feathers ruffled,RDS.)

ddrb in
I think that your analogy is entirelly appropriate. It’s just a really smart way to hold your employees hostage. Plus, who cares who’s feathers you ruffle. Enron like Wal*Mart are/were Both out to Screw America. These guys all watched wall street and think Michael Douglas’ character was a god-like figure. What was his line? Greed is God! er.. I mean Good! But God is Good right? These are the same mentalities that thought is was a good idea to harvest all the gold teeth out of the concentration camp victims.

Since it’s Sunday, I’ll write my mini sermon.

God is Good. God is Love. Greed is not Good. Greed is Not God.
Wal*Mart thrives when the misery index rises.
Miserery brings out the worst in people.
Who do you think Celebrates Misery the Most, God or the Devil? The People or Wal*Mart?
Anybody have any good Bible quotes to back me up?
No Gold, Platinum or Diamond Encrusted Stars for this, Just Blessings.
Amen!

Bobby, you evidently have not read any of San Diego Views post on other threads-he’s the MAN when it comes to Biblical exhortations against greed and exploitation of one’s fellow man. You MUST check them out! Here’s one of my favorites-although not Biblical--None of us stand taller when we stand upon the backs of our fellow man. A pygmy is still a pygmy-even if he is standing atop the Empire State building,he stands no taller, he’s still a pygmy-and fooling no one but himself.

ddrb in
Maybe Wal*Mart should replace their entire work force with 1.5 million Pygmies. When they get fed up with the low wages they can just eat the shoppers and thenhave the board of directors for desert?

Bobby: Gives new meaning to pyging out!

Or the obvious choise we can feed the Wal*mart stock holders to the people in need arround the world. We can help Americas work force and do our part to end world hunger.  My guess is that they taste like chickens or cockroaches.
.....why am I always thinking about food.....?
Anyway don’t forget to dump your Wal*Mart Stock this Week : ) And while we’re at it, let’s dump Mattell too! They were a leader in the drive to move our manufacturing base to China and rewarded us with Toxic Toys. We can start with these two. Oh and look out for ethanol! Overfarmed land is another quick solution, just like a cheap credit based “service economy” and this one leads to Famine....Any other suggestions?

.....why am I always thinking about food.....?

(((cough)))

Ken V in Texas
lol!!!
Well the stock market didn’t do too great today. What has the US govenment done to our economy? What have WE let the government do to our economy? In eight short years we have gone from a $128 billion dollar surplus to a $482 billion dollar deficit! What did we get for all that money? We all know Haliburton got a HUGE chunk of it, no bid contract and all. It’s good to be Dick Cheney! Let’s see here… I know some people out there are going to blame it on lazy people that are not working and getting Welfare. What? did we give them each $250K each? Did the government finally come up with a hydrogen fuel cell car, made in the US that can fit a family and retails for under $10 Grand? They could have! Did they at least fix our economy? Now for those of you still talking about Bill and Monica and supported Mr Clinton’s Impeachment, Do you feel at least a little guilty? Now just a quick FYI, I voted for Ross Perot twice. He’s the guy that warned us all about “that sucking sound”, and he wasn’t refering to the Oval Office Broom Closet! I’m still waiting for the candidate to re-utter those famous words “IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID!!!” So in the years and months ahead for all of our sake, please don’t be stupid!

So the stock market is tanking. There are going to be some good bargains popping up! Dump retail and look for the next Microsoft. It doesn’t have to be software driven! The next big thing is getting rid of our addiction to oil. We’ll always need oil for manufactured goods and since we have alot of oil in the US we should be able to compete well with the countries that have to import! See problem solved. A thriving manufacturing base, no air polution from cars, and a strong middle class. This could be our reallity. And pretty simple to accomplish. Who will stop it? The Big Oil Companies, And the Multi-nationals. Soon we will have the opportunity that Wal-Mart Smirks at. We will vote with our Great American Hearts, Souls and Minds. If you want to vote with your wallet send whatever you can to the Candidate with the least ties to Big Oil. I guess you all know that Condi Rice has an Oil Super Tanker Named in her Honor! TRUE! Look it up!

Bobby: Greetings! Here’s an excerpt from a SUPER article by Chalmers Johnson,"The Military Industial Complex_It’s Later than You Think."To wit:~~~~~~~~~~"Some critics were alarmed early on by the growing symbiotic relationship between government and corporate officials because each simultaneously sheltered and empowered the other, while greatly confusing the separation of powers. Since the activities of a corporation are less amenable to public or congressional scrutiny than those of a public institution, public-private collaborative relationships afford the private sector an added measure of security from such scrutiny. These concerns were ultimately swamped by enthusiasm for the war effort and the postwar era of prosperity that the war produced.

Beneath the surface, however, was a less well recognized movement by big business to replace democratic institutions with those representing the interests of capital. This movement is today ascendant. (See Thomas Frank’s new book, The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule, for a superb analysis of Ronald Reagan’s slogan “government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem.”) Its objectives have long been to discredit what it called “big government,” while capturing for private interests the tremendous sums invested by the public sector in national defense. It may be understood as a slow-burning reaction to what American conservatives believed to be the socialism of the New Deal .(continued)

Perhaps the country’s leading theorist of democracy, Sheldon S. Wolin, has written a new book, Democracy Incorporated, on what he calls “inverted totalitarianism” — the rise in the U.S. of totalitarian institutions of conformity and regimentation shorn of the police repression of the earlier German, Italian, and Soviet forms. He warns of “the expansion of private (i.e., mainly corporate) power and the selective abdication of governmental responsibility for the well-being of the citizenry.” He also decries the degree to which the so-called privatization of governmental activities has insidiously undercut our democracy, leaving us with the widespread belief that government is no longer needed and that, in any case, it is not capable of performing the functions we have entrusted to it.

Wolin writes:

“The privatization of public services and functions manifests the steady evolution of corporate power into a political form, into an integral, even dominant partner with the state. It marks the transformation of American politics and its political culture, from a system in which democratic practices and values were, if not defining, at least major contributory elements, to one where the remaining democratic elements of the state and its populist programs are being systematically dismantled.”~~~~~~~~~~Common Dreams~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Bobby, this article is DEFINITELY worth reading in its entirety-ANYTHING by Chalmers Johnson is first rate and worth a look. You won’t be disappointed. I’ll bet my platinum star on it!

ddrb in
Look out! Wal*Mart and inelligence is a volitile mixture!!!! Much like Chevis and Spicy Chinese Mustard!!! Congrats on a dead on piece of editorial research!!!

I feel a little bad because this blog is about the new Wal666Mart logo, and I feel we’ve gotten off track. However,comunication is great!! Now, I must tell you about my day. It was absolute Bliss! I was networking with a bunch of my Dem and Repub Political connections and was blown away!!! In a totally bipartisan and off the record response… They are 100% behind what I’ve been preaching!!! This goes from the local levels up to the Senate!! The politicians need our support! They have been kneecapped by the voting with wallets concept! It seems that when America votes with its Wallets as Wal*Mart preffers only the very rich get a vote! I am personally stunned yet happy at the resulsts of my research. It seems that Democracy still has a chance!

The Housing Bill:
Bush II has signed the housing bill. This is a HUGE taxpayer funded and unfortunatly NEEDED bill that will put off the inevitable. Wal*Mart stock will do well because like the ecconomic stimulous checks (More Money out of Taxpayer’s pockets), much of this windfall money will wind up being spent on retail goods. I recently read a report that a curiously large portion of stimulous money went to pornography. Your tax dollars at work! Or I could make the observation that the money was earmarked to “STIMULATE” the economy… Anyway, even tough Target and Kmart/Sears are not any better than Wal666Mart. I would recomend spending any surplus at ANY retailer except Wal*Mart. Plain and simple Wal*Mart is already getting enough of my money and I DON’T EVEN SHOP THERE!!! Demand an end to what RALPH NADER, Rightfully Calls CORPORATE WELFARE. The guy is dead on correct in his assesment of the situation. I’m not saying to run out and vote for Ralph (God Bless Him). But it is not hard to let your local, state and nation representatives know that you don’t want your, your children and grand kids, etc’s tax dollars going to Wal*Mart and ultimately to the Chinese Government. I’m I reaching anybody out there? I’m giving away Clean Burning, Biodegradable, Tax Free Stars to anybody who can actually take a half an hour (I know most of you can cut and paiste) Go to .gov and send all the elected officials to stop giving your tax dollar’s to the Chinese, and OPEC (Haliburon, Exon, etc.).
God Bless America and Americans. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?” (Jesus in Matthew 7:3, NIV).

A few more words from an earlier Chalmers Johnson article,"Managed Democracy”,Alternet, May 2008~~~~~"Wolin’s work is fully accessible. His analysis of the contemporary American crisis relies on a historical perspective going back to the original constitutional agreement of 1789 and includes particular attention to the advanced levels of social democracy attained during the New Deal and the contemporary mythology that the U.S., beginning during World War II, wields unprecedented world power.

Given this historical backdrop, Wolin introduces three new concepts to help analyze what we have lost as a nation. His master idea is “inverted totalitarianism,” which is reinforced by two subordinate notions that accompany and promote it—“managed democracy” and “Superpower” .

Wolin writes, “Democracy,” he writes, “is about the conditions that make it possible for ordinary people to better their lives by becoming political beings and by making power responsive to their hopes and needs.” It depends on the existence of a demos—“a politically engaged and empowered citizenry, one that voted, deliberated, and occupied all branches of public office.” Wolin argues that to the extent the United States on occasion came close to genuine democracy, it was because its citizens struggled against and momentarily defeated the elitism that was written into the Constitution.

“No working man or ordinary farmer or shopkeeper,” Wolin points out, “helped to write the Constitution.” He argues, “The American political system was not born a democracy, but born with a bias against democracy. It was constructed by those who were either skeptical about democracy or hostile to it. Democratic advance proved to be slow, uphill, forever incomplete. The republic existed for three-quarters of a century before formal slavery was ended; another hundred years before black Americans were assured of their voting rights. Only in the twentieth century were women guaranteed the vote and trade unions the right to bargain collectively. In none of these instances has victory been complete: women still lack full equality, racism persists, and the destruction of the remnants of trade unions remains a goal of corporate strategies. ~~~~~~~~~~~Bobby, this article in its entirety is available at Alternet. Its definitely worth a look,too. BTW, I am so pleased I get to keep my plainum star.And ,thanks for sharing about your inspiring day!

I don’t take stars back and you can earn as many as you want!

Ugh! A girl I used hang out with bought EVERYTHING from a Walmart! Clothes, food EVERYTHING! She dressed like a 6 year old as those clothes they sell do seem to look like.
We HATED her, her mom worked there! DEPRESSING!

Well the obvious question would be “was she a six year old?”.
Don’t be hatin’ here and watch your Karma or you’ll wind up a greeter! I bet your parents own Wal*Mart stock....
No stars for you!

Here’s another example of our tax dolars at work. To those who don’t already know Kellogg, Brown and Root is a spin-off company from Haliburton. Off Subject I know…

WASHINGTON (CNN)—An Army sergeant complained about faulty wiring in Iraq months before another soldier was fatally electrocuted in a shower in the same quarters, according to documents released Wednesday by a congressional committee.

Ryan Maseth, a 24-year-old Green Beret, died in his shower January 2.

1 of 2 Sgt. Justin Hummer filled out a work order in July 2007 that warned, “Pipes have voltage, get shocked in the shower.”

Hummer told investigators from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that at least once, he had to use a wooden stick to turn off the shower “because the electrical current was so strong.”

Army records show that electricians from contractor Kellogg, Brown and Root found “several safety issues concerning the improper grounding of electrical devices” in February 2007.

In January 2008, Staff Sgt. Ryan Maseth was electrocuted in a shower in the same quarters where Hummer lived the previous summer. A follow-up investigation “found nearly all of the same problems and deficiencies that had been reported one year previously,” a committee report states.

Maseth and Hummer had been based at a Saddam Hussein-era palace complex near the Baghdad airport. Hummer’s concerns were not shared with the Defense Department’s inspector-general’s office.

That office concluded that there was “no credible evidence” that KBR and the Pentagon agency that oversees defense contractors were aware of electrical problems at the facility, committee Chairman Henry Waxman said during a Wednesday hearing.

Haley in Boston, MA
I mean your post seems to come from a person still in grade school. It’s kind of depressing. But don’t worry some day you’ll get to be a big girl. And your old friend, God Willing, will be your boss.

Too All:
Exxon posts record $11.68 billion profit
World’s largest publicly traded oil firm makes $1,485.55 a second in the quarter, but misses forecasts.

First I know this Logo Blog might not reach the biggest audience and my post may not be appropriate and my smelling is bad.

I have decided to try to make my point and move on.

America’s best paying jobs are all being shipped overseas. I’m not talking about the $11-$18 dollar an hour jobs. I’m talking about the $25-$100 Dollar an hour jobs. We need to completely revamp our countries manufacturing base. We rebuilt Japan’s manufacturing base after WWII and they wound up with better equipped more advanced factories than we had in America. The American tax payers paid for it. There is amaizing new technology out there. Much of it developed right here in the good ole U.S. of A. Our government is spending our butts off and not addressing the core issues facing the Citizens and Tax Payers. Companies like Wal*Mart have built their business models arround the idea that our divided government will continue to make deals with the Devil while frantically sticking band-aids on our own problems at home. We must Demand from our Next Generation of Politians that They have a responsibility to be Leaders not band-aid stickers. America has lost it’s vision for the future. We have a re-active government instead of an active government. We knew Osama Bin Ladin was after us, but we didn’t do anything until after 9-11 (I know, Prez. Clinton tried) How much tax money has that cost us?  We knew that the levies in New Orleans needed to be upgraded for over 10 years before Huricane Katrina, but did nothing. How much did that cost us? We here special interst groups arguing about Government Waiste on petty things. Where are the Leaders with Vision? Where are the Americans with Vision. FEMA IS A Disaster. $310 Million Dollars in Money allocated to help rebuild NY small buisnesses after 9/11 went to Dunkin Donuts!!!! Only 10% of the money set aside to keep people employed and small businesses open in NYC and Washington DC after 9/11 actually went to businesses in NYC and Washington. WHY? Because the businesses were all in trouble because of the disaster and because they couldn’t prove that they could survive (because of 9/11) they were deamed UNQUALLIFIED for the Loans. Dunkin’ Donuts who also owns Subway Sandwich shops is thriving today off the now vacant store fronts all over Manhattan and the ghost of some of NY’s best loved companies, gone forever.

Ted Turner keeps a plack on his desk that reads “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way”. Well my fellow Americans, the question that I leave you with is, What’s it going to be? Is America going to Lead, Follow or Simply get pushed aside?

Love to you all, even Haley in Boston. We are all in this together. We don’t live in a bubble, we did, but it just popped.