Roehm Fires Back at Wal-Mart

I don’t have the same resources as the world’s largest company. They outman me with private investigators, computer hackers, ex-CIA operatives, former FBI men, and an army of public relations operatives. My family is eating through savings intended for our son’s college tuition, as we try to navigate a legal dispute with one of America’s most successful corporations.

OK, Julie, here’s my armchair quaterback advice:

• Abandon your “I did not publicize it” stance and go for broke.  Use your advertising connections to bring as much attention to this situation as possible.

• Pose for Playboy and use the money to send your child to college and continue the fight with the Beast of Bentonville.

You can’t make them honor their contractual agreement with you, Julie, but you can make them wish they had!

“My family and I want to move forward. We have reason to fear, I know, from a company that thinks nothing of publicly destroying families. I want to continue my career in marketing. I know I have a lot to offer, and I don’t want to waste time looking backward.”

She may be right and she may be wrong, very few people know all of the details.  What strikes me as being odd is

1) why are you wasting your hard earned “kids college money” on fighting them (although I suspect your salary was HUGE compared to most americans so saying you are struggling with this taking college fund money sounds stupid).  By the time your are done legal fees may have eaten you and any severance alive.

2) Just MOVE ON and chalk this up to “sometimes life sucks”!!!!

“My family is eating through savings intended for our son’s college tuition, “

My question: If Ms. Roehm is such a great worker, with many contacts, where is she working now?  You mean it has been MONTHS and she still hasn’t been snapped up by some other company, wonder why?  Why go through her son’s college tuition, trying to hit the jackpot!!!

“As in other cases, Wal-Mart has attacked the victim.”

Play the victim card!!!  She should just accept the fact that she made some ‘bad’ choices, and screwed-up, in having an affair with a married co-worker (which is against Wal-Mart’s company policy for executives) and go on with her life.

“We have reason to fear, I know, from a company that thinks nothing of publicly destroying families. I want to continue my career in marketing.”

What does she have to FEAR from Wal-Mart, according to people on this site, nobody likes Wal-Mart anyhow!!!

“I want to continue my career in marketing. I know I have a lot to offer, and I don’t want to waste time looking backward.”

Then, why is she doing just THAT (wasting time looking backwards and not using her contacts to get a new job)?  She was the one that filed the suit, did she think it would not be publicized, I thought she was a great marketer, even I know that this suit would hit the headlines, why didn’t she?

She is not a victim, she is a golddigger!!

Ken your remarks are totally out of line.  Bob how do you know if she is a golddigger?

Several points puzzle me—why wasn’t she completely investigated by WM to be sure she fit into their company?
Who made the decision at the top—I had heard it was John Fleming, and if that is correct, I would be suspect for I don’t have much respect for him.

Okay let’s get to the lawsuit—I have not read and understand there might be a couple of them.

Yes WM has some shrewd attorneys and will try to get all they can.  However if Roehm has a solid case, I believe many attorneys will take on a percentage.  Good publicity, etc plus money if you win.

Depending upon the severance contract and its wording, she might have a very good case.  We surely don’t know on here.  I did not like her style however that has nothing to do with the merits of justice in this case.

Yes many questions are unanswered, what she is doing now, did she receive any severance, how the e-mails came about, etc.  If it were me I would not say a lot in public, but get all my facts together and sue the pants off WM.  Noiw you have to be sure you are in the right and have been wronged.

I would just say, I am not commenting and it will all come out in the lawsuit with a jury deciding the outcome.  I am puzzled as to why she went to Las Vegas?  Also of interest is
where are the spouses of either and are they behind there marriage partners in the above matter?  Too many questions and we don’t have enough info to intelligently comment.

Ken your remarks are totally out of line.

Which line is that, Sage?  You right wing nuts (and Libertarians) are living in a dream world. This is advertising not Sunday School.

What better way to garner all the attention in the world than posing for Playboy?  I can see the tag line now.....

Julie and the Beast

She is not a victim, she is a golddigger!!

Why do people constantly try to make Wal-Mart live up to contracts they sign? Julie filed suit to get what was legally coming to her.  How unfair can she be?

I wonder what the chances are that the same clown drew up Julie’s employment contract that sat back while Tom Coughlin slipped his infamous “known or unknown” clause into his contract?

Not only are the Bentonvillians incompetent, but untrainable as well.

Sage,

“Bob how do you know if she is a golddigger?”

It’s just a matter of deduction, even you have said you have many questions as to why she did this and why she did that!!

Here’s a few of mine:

1.) She stated, “I left a successful career in Detroit”, if it was so successful, why did she leave?

2.) You talk about being, “investigated by WM to be sure she fit into their company?, well, what about her, didn’t she investigate the company to see if she would fit in?

3.) Shortly after arriving at her new job, she starts making waves, by repainting her office against the wishes of her superiors.

4.) How long did she work there?  Yet, it was long enough to start a relationship with a married male co-worker, that his wife thought to be more than just friendly, enough so as to turn over e-mails to Wal-Mart.

5.) It has been months now since she lost her job, but is complaining about “eating into her son’s college tuition”, that would appear that she hasn’t found employment yet!!

6.) The company says she was dismissed for infractions of company policy, and she was the one who initiated the suit, but says she didn’t want publicity, give me a break, an expert in publicity, who didn’t know this suit would do just that!!!

You can blame Wal-Mart all you want, but, so far the allegations point against her.  But, like you said, it will all shake out in court!!

Ken V,

“Julie filed suit to get what was legally coming to her.”

And, you know this how?  Do you have inside information as to what the terms of her contract was?

“Not only are the Bentonvillians incompetent, but untrainable as well.”

Yeah, these are the same ‘incompetent’ people who took a small 5 & 10 cent store in downtown Bentonville and built it into the giant it is today!!  Real Bumpkins, I would say!!!

Until we read the actual employment agreement and the details of the lawsuit, this is really a non-issue. Noone can comment on this issue in an intelligent and logical manner. Whether you like Ms. Roehm or not is irrelevant. What did her contract say and why was she fired? Was her termination a violation of her employment agreement? Did she violate her employment agreement? Until we see the evidence, we should withhold judgement.

I will say this: Mrs. Roehm’s marketing did nothing to rescue the poor sales of Chrysler and she is doing nothing to attract new employers by going public. One of the first rules of thumb is that you never bad mouth a previous employer to a prospective employer. The prospective employer will wonder if you are a troublemaker and will generate a mental picture of you bad mouthing them after you have left their employment. It’s human nature. Do not bad mouth past employer to prospective or future employer. MAJOR RULE.

Yeah, these are the same ‘incompetent’ people who took a small 5 & 10 cent store in downtown Bentonville and built it into the giant it is today!!

They are not the same people. Sam’s gone and David Glass is forced to sit in the corner with a dunce hat on.

Here’s another part of Sam’s Dream that has turned into a nightmare:

I’d hate to see any descendants of mine fall into the category of what I call “idle rich”...I hope they’ll feel compelled to do something productive and useful and challenging...working on cures for cancer, or figuring out ways to bring culture and education to the underprivilieged, or becoming missionaries for free enterprise in the Third World. Or maybe - and this is strictly my idea - there’s another Walton merchant lurking in the wings somewhere down the line.

And, you know this how?

I know this because I’m not suffering short-term memory loss, Bob.  The preceding thread about this included:

Ms. Roehm sued Wal-Mart for firing her shortly after her dismissal, asserting that the company had not given a valid reason and owed her money under her contract with Wal-Mart.

I just happened to notice this part from Ken’s post-

“Here’s another part of Sam’s Dream that has turned into a nightmare:”

“...working on cures for cancer,...”

Now that just caught my interest. I wonder what Sam Walton’s descendants could do to possibly help in this work on cures for cancer. I wonder…

Bob McAdam: Let’s see now...ahhhh well… something that might help in cures for cancer. A cure for cancer...Huh. Gee, anybody have any ideas? Anything? Anybody...anything at all. Don’t be embarrassed… this is idea time and no matter how wild someone else might think your idea is or how stupid they think it is… just speak up. Don’t worry what others might think...Yes, young lady over there… you have your hand raised.

Young lady: Yes Mr. McAdam. I have one idea. Maybe WalMart could stop selling cigarettes. They kill 438,000 Americans every year by causing cancer. I was just thinking that if WalMart was not the world leader in selling this product that has only one purpose...well that maybe we could help some people not get sick from…

Bob McAdam: Stop right there missy! I said ideas!… not insanity! Somebody call Threat Assessment and tell them we’ve got a real loon on our hands… now missy… I want you to sit there and think about what you have suggested and what that means to WalMart revenues. When Threat Assessment gets here they will escort you out of the building and probably through the Fat Bastard Tom Coughlin Memorial Hallway. When they throw you out the door and down onto the pavement, just remember that WalMart .... means business!!

WalMart- From our people at the ‘war room’ to all of America on the next ‘Smoke Out’ or ‘Run for a Cure’ marathon, you can all go to hell.

SDV—as usual your posts make no sense, have no literary value and are like the WM open door policy --in one ear and out the other.  To me your posts are sickening.

HOWEVER, I would like to add this relative to cancer.  We all have seen how devasting it is, however I have read on cancer for years and from various aspects.

Remember in a post where I questioned the “unenlightened one, Alex” about Renee Caisse, the Canadian “Cancer” Nurse.  He knew nothing about her.

If any of you have a member of your family with cancer, please, I beg you, to get the original “Essiac Tea” (the original 4 herb formula) and have them take it.  It has
worked in thousands of cases and did for my brother-in-law. Don’t buy the non original.  Goggle; Essiac Tea, Renee Caisse, or www.reperin.com and do your own research.

Yes most Doctors will not agree, and that is because they have never studied this aspect.  Good Health.

SDV,

That’s “RACE for THE Cure”.  My family and I are involved with it, every year (now, doesn’t THAT surprise you!).

For those who may not know, the piece KenV quoted was from the eiplogue of Sam Walton’s autobiography, “Made in America”.  Mr. Sam died in 1992 of a melanoma-type cancer. 

Futhermore, though Bob McAdam works for WM in the Bentonville HQ, he is not a Walton descendant.

Here’s some free advice—best that you get your facts straight before you attempt to engage others, otherwise, you just keep end-up looking-like the slob you are.

JB

SDV

Your last post was so ridiculous, I don’t know where to start. I will focus on your propaganda. Before I do this, let me say that I despise cigarettes. I hate the smell and the stains and the coughing and the second hand smoke. I hate the fact that my tax dollars subsidize what I know to be a disgusting, unhealthy habit.

THAT SAID, I also despise trial lawyers and state Attorneys for filing ridiculous lawsuits against Big Tobacco. Our tax dollars fund tobacco. We collect billions in taxes from Big Tobacco. We have hundreds of thousands of Americans employed in good paying jobs with Big Tobacco. THEN, after all the economic benefit, we sue a company over a product we know to be smelly and unhealthy. Lawyers get billions and the “victims” get $10. I will go even further. We have known that cigarettes are unhealthy for decades. If you smoke, you deserve what you get. Don’t blame Altria Group for your stupidity. Do you blame McDonald’s when you clog your heart? Do you blame Honda when you wreck your car? Do you sue Anheiser-Busch when you get drunk and have unprotected sex with a stranger? Where is the personal responsibility in this country? In West Virginia, smokers tried to go even further. They claimed that, even though they were presently healthy, the tobacco industry should pay for medical monitoring for them for life, though they insisted that they would continue to smoke (blaming the industry for addicting them). If you know something is unhealthy and do it anyway and then expect someone else to pay for your choice, you are less than human. You are a lowlife piece of scum and you don’t deserve a quick death.

Finally, your number about “smoke related deaths” (438,000 per year) is extremely inflated. Counted among these 438,000 deaths are people who have never smoked or been around smoke, but died of lung cancer or emphysema. If you are 105 years old, die of natural causes and were a lifelong smoker, you are counted as a smoke related death. Basically, if you die of a disease that affects smokers, though you are not a smoker, or if you die of any cause (car accident included) and you smoke, you are counted as a smoke related death. These numbers were inflated by trial lawyers because 438,000 sounds so much more impressive than 40,000. Get your facts straight.

For those who may not know, the piece KenV quoted was from the eiplogue of Sam Walton’s autobiography, “Made in America”.

Jim is right on the money with this one.

A few years back the internet was awash with Sam Walton quotes.  Unfortunately many of the quotes flew directly in the face of the current bunch in Bentonville. Quotes like, (paraphrasing here) take good care of your employees and you won’t have to spend all your money on lawyers to keep the unions out.

Anyway, the vast majority of Sam Walton quotes have disappeared. If you go to any of the quote sites you will find the same ten or twelve quotes, all labeled “business inspirational”.  To find the rest you have to go to Sam’s book Made in America.

Sorry, that link doesn’t work.  Try this one:  Link

“Remember in a post where I questioned the “unenlightened one, Alex” about Renee Caisse, the Canadian “Cancer” Nurse.  He knew nothing about her.”

Sorry Sage but I have never heard of Renee Caisse.
What I don’t understand is why you would call me unenlightened one?  Do you know everything about every person in the U.S.A?

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SanDiegoView,

“Maybe WalMart could stop selling cigarettes.”

I think you are on to something here, think about it, a person walks into Wal-Mart and tries to buy a pack of cigarettes and is told, “We don’t sell them here”, then the person says to themselves, “If Wal-Mart doesn’t sell cigarettes, they must not be good for you, so I think I will stop smoking, right here and now”!!  Soon, everybody who shops at Wal-Mart, will be smoke and cancer free!!!  But, what about those who DON"T shop at Wal-Mart, they would remain smokers and all die of cancer, because they would get their smokes somewhere else and not get the Wal-Mart message!!  And, of course, a Wal-Mart shopper, would never go somewhere else to get their smokes, now would they?

Just an aside, what is going to happen, if we figure out how to prevent all deaths and people start dying of starvation, because the world is overpopulated and we can’t feed everybody?  Just a thought!!

...and not get the Wal-Mart message!!

But people do get the Wal-Mart message, Bob:

We’ll sell you anything for a profit.

Well, let us take the liars club in reverse order.

Bob aka imbeclie number 1-

You are making an argument on behalf of self destruction and of course attempting to apply immoral rat crap crazy reasoning to any suckers still willing to shop at the Whorehouse aka WalMart for smokes. One day Bob, on your deathbed perhaps, you may think for a moment just how important it was to help people to do the right thing. Then after a meal of Soylent Green you can lapse into permanent and eternal psychosis with the haunting words of-
“And who is my neighbor?”

Nick aka EllisW? aka imbecile numbers -0 and 2-

If you want to lie and be stupid in public again then disavow cancer numbers from;

John Kirkwood
President and CEO
American Lung Association

“Tobacco-related diseases are the leading preventable cause of death in the United States, causing more than 438,000 deaths each year.  Each day, more than 1,140 kids become regular smokers – and one-third of them will ultimately die from their habit.  The tobacco companies spend more than $15.15 billion a year marketing their deadly products – preying on our children, who make up the “replacement generation” of smokers.”

http://www.lungusa.org/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=40406&ct=3558971

Or perhaps you want to lie about court findings and responsibility of tobacco companies as follows-

On September 22, 1999, the United States Department of Justice filed a racketeering lawsuit against Philip Morris (now a division of Altria) and other major cigarette manufacturers. Almost 7 years later, on August 17, 2006 U.S. District Court Judge Gladys Kessler found that the Government had proven its case and that the tobacco company defendants had violated the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). Specifically, Judge Kessler found that PM and other tobacco companies had:

· conspired to minimize, distort and confuse the public about the health hazards of smoking;
· concealed and suppressed research data showing nicotine is addictive;
· denied that they can and do control the levels of nicotine in cigarettes to keep smokers addicted;
· marketed “light” and “low tar” brands to mislead people about their relative harmfulness compared to “full flavored” cigarettes;
· purposely marketed to young people under 21 to recruit “replacement smokers” and preserve the industry’s financial future;
· publicly denied, while internally acknowledging, that secondhand tobacco smoke is harmful to nonsmokers, and
· destroyed documents relevant to litigation[1]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Philip_Morris

Nick/EllisW?, your insane rants leave everyone wondering what you stand for? You claim to hate…( Before I do this, let me say that I despise cigarettes. I hate the smell and the stains and the coughing and the second hand smoke. I hate the fact that my tax dollars subsidize what I know to be a disgusting, unhealthy habit) … yet still advocate that the WalMart/Bentonville slobs pimp for tobacco.

And then this- “ We have hundreds of thousands of Americans employed in good paying jobs with Big Tobacco.” Nick/EllisW?, you display the ‘love of money’ conscience that is a dog that won’t hunt. But then again you have friends with Jim Bunch and Sage as indifferent Americans with the moral accountability of Panamanian swamp weasels.

Nick/EllisW?, you are a confused morally empty schizophrenic Edelman blogger that needs to “Get your facts straight.” and personalities.

When you state- “If you know something is unhealthy and do it anyway and then expect someone else to pay for your choice, you are less than human.” -what more could be said about WalMart and all the subsidies you pay them with your taxes Nick/EllisW? Tobacco whoredom is one thing, but to equally deny application to WalMart as a business practice this very principle seems rather like schizoid double-standard drivel denial syndrome. Or more accurately something that the Edelman ‘war room’ clowns would construct.

Nick/EllisW started with- “I will focus on your propaganda. Before I do this, let me say that I despise cigarettes.” Apparently not enough to do anything about it.
And to use your own phrase for your own moral identification-
“You are a lowlife piece of scum and you don’t deserve a quick death.”

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Jim Bunch in St. Louis Metro, MO aka imbecile number 3-

“Futhermore, though Bob McAdam works for WM in the Bentonville HQ, he is not a Walton descendant.”

Whoever said he was? But clearly you are wanting to avoid what Bob McAdam is really all about so we will take a moment and explain it to you, whether you like it or not Jim.

McAdam, Robert S. (Bob) Philip Morris Vice President, Special Projects; Tobacco Institute.

Formerly Philip Morris, Altria brand names include cigarette brands Marlboro, Basic, Chesterfield, Lark, L&M;, Parliament and Virginia Slims.

Robert McAdam, Wal-Mart’s vice president for Government Relations, oversees Wal-Mart’s corporate communications and was a vice president of special projects for the Tobacco Institute.

McAdam was still lobbying for the Tobacco Institute in 1998 well after Berman’s organization received over $2 million in funding from tobacco giant, Phillip Morris. [New York Times, November 2, 2005 and http://tobaccodocuments.org/nysa_ti_m2/TI12650086.html, http://www.consumerdeception.com/append4.html]

McAdam’s tenure at the Tobacco Institute overlapped from at least 1995-1998 with Berman’s major donations from Philip Morris and work in support of tobacco. [http://tobaccodocuments.org]
http://abunchofgreedyrightwingliarswhoworkforwalmart.com/berman/

Real facts about one of WalMart/Bentonville’s tobacco slobs that continue to poison Americans with the blogging assistance of Jim Bunch and his ‘indifference defense’ for WalMart and its love affair with big tobacco.

Here’s some free advice—best that you get your facts and morality straight before you attempt to engage others, otherwise, you just keep ending-up looking-like the slob propagandist you are.

Sage aka imbecile number 4-

I’m still waiting for you to post something significant. While you are working on it you can at least respect Alex and the rest of Canada for preventing WalMart from selling cigarettes in its stores there since 1994.

Wal-Mart ‘butts out.’ - no tobacco sales for Canadian Wal-Mart Stores, Inc
Discount Store News, Nov 21, 1994

TORONTO—On the eve of the grand reopenings of 100 of its stores, Wal-Mart Canada drew praise from the Canadian Minister of Health for “butting out” of the tobacco business.
In response to federal and provincial government moves to curb the sale of tobacco in stores that operate pharmacies, Wal-Mart announced it will stop selling all forms of tobacco in its 122 stores in Canada.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3092/is_n22_v33/ai_15886636

Collectively you 4 Edelman imbeciles should be able to identify which ‘WalMart’ website the Bentonville tobacco slobs post this hypocrisy-

“Tobacco use, particularly cigarette smoking, is the single most preventable cause of death in the United States. Ask any doctor and they will tell you, the single most important thing you can do to improve your health is to stop smoking!
Five Common Myths
Myth: Smoking is just a bad habit.
Fact: Tobacco use is an addiction. For some people, it can be as addictive as heroin or cocaine.”

WalMart- We are the cigarettes, the lies, and the death. The imbeciles don’t care enough to even object.

SDV-

I remember not long ago when Wal-Mart didn’t stock Plan B. Among other things, it was accused of forcing its morality on women. Then it started carrying the pill, and suddenly, the company was selling an agent of murder and encouraging adultery. Interesting, don’t you think.

I’m not sure what side of the issue you took - for or against the company carrying the drug - but you are so fanatically anti-Wal-Mart, you probably argued both positions I listed above.

Now I don’t know if you are just trying to be stupid with your little cigarette rant or if you really are that delusional. Frankly, I don’t care about cigarettes one way or the other on this site. For the record, I’ve tried smoking one and I can’t see how anyone could or would even want to do it. People who smoke around me piss me off, too. However, that has nothing to do with Wal-Mart.

Like it or not, cigarettes are a legal product that people have the right to use and retailers have the right to sell. Your efforts to demonize Wal-Mart over the issue are misguided (then if they somehow stopped selling them, you would be one of those attacking them for depriving people of their right to give themselves cancer, correct?). I recommend that you take your assinine crap here where you can “do something about it” because no one here gives a damn. Then you can go here and here, and maybe here. Now go, SanDiegoView, the people need you to protect them from themselves.

Someone in USA-

Your half-baked immoral insanity is noted.

“Frankly, I don’t care about cigarettes one way or the other on this site.”

As is your WalMart love drivel for posting on this site.

“Your efforts to demonize Wal-Mart over the issue are misguided (then if they somehow stopped selling them, you would be one of those attacking them for depriving people of their right to give themselves cancer, correct?).”

Not correct again imbecile number 5. No doubt WalMart stumbling into the gravity of doing the right thing would meet with your disapproval. You’re a real hero, we should post your stuff at the hospital. What is it, your ‘love of money’ psychopathology singing the ‘legal product’ tune (Like it or not, cigarettes are a legal product that people have the right to use and retailers have the right to sell.) I suppose that you couldn’t find the right thing to do if it fell on you or burnt down the Edelman ‘war room’.

WalMart- Cigarettes have only one purpose, cancer and then death. We are the world’s largest retailer of this health care product. If only we could legally sell Afghani heroin to kids. Someone in the USA wouldn’t ‘legally’ mind that either.

SDV-

I’d have thought an upstanding Christian like yourself would be at church right now. Then again, how devout can you be when you can’t even post without insulting those to whom you are responding? Maybe Jesus isn looking the other way. You are in California. He gave up on that state long ago.

Let me ask you this: What are you doing to make smoking illegal? That’s what you want, right? Based on your posts here and the other site, I’m not so sure. You seem disingenuous (and I know you’re a hypocrite). I don’t think it’s smoking you oppose. Rather you hate the businesses involved because you hate capitalism. You don’t think businesses should be able to function without the constant interference of big brother. You believe that the public is too stupid to exercise the freedom allowed in this country. They need the state to wipe their asses for them. Personal responsibility has no place in your deluded little mind. Does that sum up your views or did I leave something out?

SanDiegoView- I don’t have any legitimate complaints against Wal-Mart, so I’ll go on a rant about selling cigarettes. I’m all style and no substance. Hopefully no one will be able to tell.

SanDiegoView,

First, I am not advocating the use of tobacco products and I tell all young people that cigarettes are bad for their health.  But, some things have always confused me, one is the claim that cigarettes are responsible for 438,000 deaths each year, how can this be proved?  When, people who never smoked, can get cancer too, how can you tell which smokers would have died even if they had never smoked?  Then, there is this fact, how come some smokers can live to ripe old ages?  My grandfather smoked most of his life and died at age 93, but, not from cancer and my dad has smoked most of his life, about 2 to 3 packs a day, (mostly non-filter), and he is now 86, he recently had a physical and the doctor told him his lungs were fine, but, still told him if he didn’t quit smoking he could get cancer, why hasn’t he got it already, if smoking causes it?  Then, there are the people who have never smoked and have got cancer, how do you explain that?  As for John Kirkwood, President and CEO, American Lung Association, what do you expect him to say?  After all, he’s always looking for more cash to try to find a cure, but, somehow, they still haven’t, even though they seem to know the cause (cigarettes).  And, why are cigarettes still legal, if they have been PROVED to kill so many people?  Lastly, PBS had a program and a doctor that they claimed was the leading lung specialist in the world, said that the tests that are used to prove cigarettes cause cancer, are bogus, because they don’t accurately portray actual conditions and they exaggerate the conditions.

Here’s my point, a business is in business to give their customers legal products that they demand.  It is up to the customer to decide whether or not they want to purchase that product.  I happen to think that cell phones, used while driving, cause accidents, by distracting the drivers, so, in my opinion, stores should not sell those dangerous products, but, does that make them wrong, because they don’t listen to me and still sell them!!!

San Diego View --

I am quite angry with you post of me “ The Great Sage” as being imbecile number 4.  I resent that.

You posted:
Bob as embecile number l
Nick/Ellis as imbecile 0 & 2 ( don’t know why he got two ratings even if one is a zero.
Jim Bunch as imbecile number 3
The Sage as number 4
Someone as imbecile number 5 (this is okay because he
is under me)

I should be rated at number l (one)!!!! Those others should be below or behind me, I could care less in what order you list them.  However “The Sage” (the wise knowledgeable and intelligent one) IS NUMBER ONE!!!

I will make one exception SDV—if you wish to list Alex as
number one, I will willingly step down and take number 2. You can put the others in any order you want.

Insanity for WalMart cigarette sales continues with-

“I don’t think it’s smoking you oppose. Rather you hate the businesses involved because you hate capitalism.” Someone in USA aka imbecile number 5
Sunday, April 01 at 01:16 PM

Capitalism is best when it behaves itself. “Someone in USA aka imbecile number 5”- You have lost your dignity by way of playing stupid about cigarette sales at WalMart and egregiously immoral with your defense of WalMart. You are not a defender of capitalism or even good business practices. Unless of course somewhere in your lunacy you stop protecting the exercise of killing one’s customers with the ‘its legal’ chin drivel. You are trying to defend WalMart remember, and the idea that capitalism has no moral responsibilty. Your another little pissant blogger fraud who won’t bring himself to call upon WalMart to STOP SELLING CIGARETTES for the benefit and health of Americans and others. Instead your death oriented ‘love of money’ view of capitalism won’t allow you any moral gravisphere at all.

You should officially join Bob aka imbecile number 1 and Judas in their duet and make it a tobacco trio tragedy.

Why don’t you just fold up your fake blogger tent like the other paidcritics.com frauds and save yourself from additional embarrassment?

A Bob aka imbeclie number 1 and Judas sing-along with-

“Here’s my point, a business is in business to give their customers legal products that they demand.  It is up to the customer to decide whether or not they want to purchase that product.” Bob aka imbeclie number 1

“It is up to the customer to decide…”

“The tobacco companies spend more than $15.15 billion a year marketing their deadly products – preying on our children, who make up the “replacement generation” of smokers.”
http://www.lungusa.org/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=40406&ct=3558971

Say, Bob aka imbecile number 1, why spend $15,150,000,000 each year if not to ‘influence’ people?

And now from WalMart’s own website of hypocrisy-

“Tobacco use, particularly cigarette smoking, is the single most preventable cause of death in the United States. Ask any doctor and they will tell you, the single most important thing you can do to improve your health is to stop smoking!”

Fact: Tobacco use is an addiction. For some people, it can be as addictive as heroin or cocaine.”
http://walmart.triaddigital.com/Content.aspx?c=Help+Yourself+Stop+Smoking&s=Wal-Mart

WalMart- We are the number one! seller in death products that cause preventable cancers. See your local WalMart dealertoday!! .  Each day, more than 1,140 kids become regular smokers – and one-third of them will ultimately die from their habit.  1,140 kids a day can’t be wrong!! Just ask Judas and imbeciles number 1 and 5 at WalMart.

SanDiegoView,

How do you feel about the Plan B contraceptive and Walmart selling that?

“How do you feel about the Plan B contraceptive and Walmart selling that?”

If you are addressing WalMart from an implied economics/ eugenics policy premise and a refusal to comply, I would applaud those who refuse to carry a product line intended to uphold such a policy. The ungodly and morally indifferent crowd would uphold a commercial interest alone, having gained nothing from recent eugenics history in the U.S. and Europe. Motive becomes observable.

Children are an heritage of the Lord. Psalm 127:3

SDV-

You never answered my question: What are you doing to see that smoking is made illegal?

All you did was throw around a few insults (guess you don’t have much else) and hypocritically quote from a book you don’t understand. All style and no substance.

Sage,

“Bob as embecile number 1”

“I should be rated at number l (one)!!!! Those others should be below or behind me, I could care less in what order you list them.  However “The Sage” (the wise knowledgeable and intelligent one) IS NUMBER ONE!!!”

Sorry Sage, but, I have been named Number Uno and I got out my big foam finger to celebrate.  Does being named number 1 embecile qualify me for any prize or social benefits?  Maybe I can now get those food stamps and a monthly check from the government welfare fund!!  Guess you just have to try harder and maybe next time you can get up to number 1!!!

SanDiegoView,

“Capitalism is best when it behaves itself.”

Have you ever heard the phrase, “It’s a dog eat dog world”, I don’t think this came from a business being ‘Mr. Nice Guy’!!!

“why spend $15,150,000,000 each year if not to ‘influence’ people?”

And, why does any business advertise?  Do you not get the concept of a business?  It is to get people to buy your product, not ‘influence’ them NOT to buy it!!!  Why does the liquior industry advertise their ‘deadly’ products, why do the auto makers advertise their ‘deadly’ products, remember, these products are only ‘deadly’ if misused.  Do you advocate banning ALL products that have led to someone’s death?  If advertising ‘influences’ you to do something, then you are embecile number 1, not me.  Advertising, has never caused me to buy anything!!!

SDV

Here is some information for you. If I assume that your figure of 400,000 + smoke related deaths is correct (and the deaths are all “premature"), the following numbers might help to explain why you are not telling the whole truth.

US Smoking Related Mortality By Cause & Age Of Death
1990-1994 averages

TOTAL: 427,743

Age/Number of deaths/percentage

Under 1: 1,610 (0.0376%)
1-34: 300 (0.00135%)
35-49: 21,994 (5.14%)
50-69: 149,222 (34.9%)
70-74: 62,250 (14.55%)
75-84: 120,670 (28.21%)
85+: 71,697 (16.76%)

SO, the percentage of smokers who will die of a smoke related death at age 70 or beyond is 59.52%. The percentage of people who die a smoke related death under the age of 50 is less than 5.5%. Is that what you call “premature” deaths?

Car accidents, suicide and murder kill roughly 97,000 people per year with an average death age of 39. With a life expectancy of 72 years, car accidents, suicide & murder take an average of 33 years off one’s life. This is “premature”. The average life expectancy of a smoker is about 72 years, at which age many of us will die of heart disease, diabetes, car accidents, murder, stroke or other issues.

Of course, as I said, a person who smokes two packs a day and lives to be 100, then dies of old age, is counted as a “smoke related death”. A lifelong smoker who dies in a plane crash at age 35 is considered a “smoke related death”.

I personally despise tobacco use and I hate to smell it but I feel that Americans should be permitted to kill themselves, so long as they don’t hurt anyone else and as long as my tax dollars don’t pay for it.

The average life expectancy of smokers is nearly 2 years longer than that of non-smokers.

All of these statistics can’t be wrong!

Bob in

Ok I will try harder to be imbecile number l, but I don’t like you having it whatsoever, and I will probably sulk about it.

I won’t gripe anymore about it as long as you agree to:
If SDV gives your #l spot to Alex, and makes him “imbecile number l” you will willingly relinquish the position as I firmly believe other than me, Alex is more deserving than you.

San Diege View—I notice several times you call yourself a Biblicist, however I challenged you on some areas of your knowledge of Scripture, plus you were asked by Mary and myself if you were a minister.  Are you?

My large living Webster Dictionary that is very old defines
a Biblicist as one who accepts the Bible literally and could also be a scholar.  I honestly don’t believe you fit the definition for you misquote the literal verbage in the Good Book and obviously by your remarks you are definitely not a Biblical scholar.

Sage,

“I won’t gripe anymore about it as long as you agree to:
If SDV gives your #l spot to Alex, and makes him “imbecile number l” you will willingly relinquish the position as I firmly believe other than me, Alex is more deserving than you.”

I guess that I would be willing to relinquish my #1 status to Alex, because he is by far more deserving!!!  Too bad, SDV doesn’t nominate himself for the list, he would rank up near the top too!!!

Sage, I don’t think SDV is a minister. Aside from his extremely unchristian remarks, he was commenting here on the morning of Palm Sunday. A minister would have been too busy to do that.

SDV likes to hide behind religious-sounding remarks because he believes it gives his words a sort of authority. He loves condemning others to make himself feel righteous (living in that den of iniquity must make him feel dirty). He believes that Wal-Mart supporters are going to burn in hell with Judas. I sure hope not; Satan might make me share a room with the faux reverend and I hear that suicide doesn’t work down there. I don’t think I could tolerate his incoherent rambling for the rest of eternity.

a contract is a contract is a contract this woman needs the money hey walmart has money. now break the bank because her kid can not get into an ivy leauge college.  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ give the money and settle it walmart bow out and write a check to her it is her dream!

Roger,

If Ms. Roehm is the marketing hotshot she wants everyone to believe she is, she shouldn’t have any trouble finding a good position, elsewhere—maybe even one of the anti-WM organizations could give her a job!

Either that, or she could work for a carpet chain in Milwaukee—at least she would be in back in the upper midwest and she wouldn’t have to worry about competing-with WM!

JB

...maybe even one of the anti-WM organizations could give her a job!

Jim, you just gave me an idea.

Near the beginning of his post:
“… won’t gripe anymore about it as long as you agree to:
If SDV gives your #l spot to Alex, and makes him “imbecile number l” you will willingly relinquish the position as I firmly believe other than me, Alex is more deserving than you.”
[The Sage]

Near the end of his post:
“you misquote the literal verbage in the Good Book and obviously by your remarks you are definitely not a Biblical scholar.”

The Sage in
Tuesday, April 03 at 01:45 AM

First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
[2 Peter 3:3 from the Good Book that Sage talks about]

R E M E M B E R
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Ales re: your post of 04/04 @3:23pm

.”......in the last days scoffers will come, ..... following their own evil desires.”

I don’t quite understand what this means and has to do with this thread???????????????

I’m sorry Alex, I just now got it, you were referring to yourself and SDV.  Good point, right on. You two should quit following your evil desires.  Once in awhile you might suggest this to Ken V, naturally at your convenience.
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You are truely a Christian phony Sage.
Have a great night.

R E M E M B E R
J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
Home of Walmart Worker Abuse

...maybe even one of the anti-WM organizations could give her a job!

That’s one of the things I love about you pro Wal-Marters. You are so naive.

Ken V,

“That’s one of the things I love about you pro Wal-Marters. You are so naive.”

So, are you saying thateven the anti Wal-Mart group wouldn’t want her?

No, Bob, that’s not what I’m saying at all.

hey jim you are very insightful----------------but i dont think she has the money to m-o-v-e lawer fees hello.  marketing hotshot where do these people come from i could learn from you

Roger,

No, I could learn from YOU (or I could go out on an all-nighter and type on the computer, when I come home—same effect).

Your pal,

JB