The Night Before Christmas at Wal-Mart

how about the shit wages and benefits all the other retailers and union grocery stores pay?those are the real grinches not walmart.

mv: A grinch by the inch is a cinch-a grinch by the yard,is hard!

matt i think we got to come up with a new game plan.we ain’t getting too far cause we just spewing the same ol same ol.people aren’t even lookin cause we don’t have much material to work from.later matt.

YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE WAL-MART HAS ITS OWN FISHER PRICE, OR MATTEL FACTORY. THEY GET THE SAME TOYS THAT TOYS R US, K-MART AND ANY OTHER RETAILERS PURCHASE .  BLAME THE UNIONS FOR WANTING 15 WEEKS PAID VACATION AT $25 AN HOUR THATS WHY WE’RE HAVING TO GET THE STUFF MADE IN CHINA . SOME UNIONS WORKED THEMSELVES OUT OF A JOB. YEAH I’D LIKE TO MAKE A TON OF MONEY TOO BUT I HAVE ENOUGH COMON SENSE TO KNOW THAT A BUSINESS CAN’T RUN LIKE THAT. ALL THIS PROPAGANDA IS PUT OUT BY THE GROCERS UNION AGAINST WAL-MART AND NO-ONE ELSE ONLY BECAUSE IF THEY COULD GET WAL-MART UNIONIZED SOMEONE WOULD BE POCKETING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. ITS NOT HAPPENING SO GET OVER IT!!!  HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY

Sue:Would you mind sharing exactly what part of Alabama you’re from? Southern or Northern?

I agree that walmart is at faulty for alot of what is going on in the retail trade. I used to work for a supplier for walmart and they would send a letter to use informing us in order for us to be able to renew the contract with them we had to give back a percentage of the money we had made from our sales to them and every year the percentage would get higher. To Be Able to do this we had to start finding cheaper products to manufacture our product. This kept happening until we had to close our doors due to not being able to cut costs or downsize employees any further

Tod : Thats amazing that WalMart would actually put those demands on paper.

ddrb,

What’s really amazing, is how you fell for that load of crap from Tod.

BUT I HAVE ENOUGH COMON SENSE...

...to stop screaming?

Common sense is that layer of prejudices which we acquire before we are sixteen. ~ Albert Einstein

kickbacks like tod mentions happen all the time between retailers and their suppliers. I know this because I was a victim of them myself

hey tod how about the other retailers refusal to lower their prices to walmarts level to attract more customers?thats whats wrong in retail the other retailers arrogant refusal to lower their assinine prices to compete with wm.the other retailers do the same things you bitch that wm does so shut up i dont want to hear it.

Why Should This Blog Thread Be Any Different?

As usual, another blog thread gets started.  Everyone starts to throw in their “2 cents,” but rarely does it have anything to do with the “original” topic.

If there is anything I can’t stand, it’s hyperbole and gross exaggeration.  For people like RDS, this comes naturally.

With this said, I’d like to add that I don’t like to see this on the anti Wal-Mart side of the fence either.  There’s no need to exaggerate when it comes to Wal-Mart.  When it comes to “The Beast,” reality is stranger than anything you can make up!

I suppose this explains this “cute” little poem.  I can’t blame Alex Goldschmidt for not wanting to post his 500th thread on toxic toys (ooops!  Was that hyperbole?), and I can’t blame him for not wanting to put his name on some cliche re-write of “Twas the Night Before Christmas,” so no wonder this thread was brought to us by “The Media Team.”

It’s nice to see that the “media team” knows how to prioritize its day.  Instead of monitoring this blog and “cleaning it up” a little, they’d rather sit around the office sipping their favorite flavor of the holiday from Starbucks, while they collaborate on some insipid re-write of a famous poem for their own amusement.  I’m sure this is going to convince a lot of Wal-Mart shoppers to park their carts for good at Wal-Mart!

OK… back to the hyperbole.  “fruitcake infested with bugs?” I’ve never known fruitcake to become infested with bugs.  Of course I’ve never met anyone that claimed to like fruitcake either!  Was there actually one reported instance of this at any Wal-Mart?

How about...“most businesses had shut down” and “ghost town.” If there is such a place in America, I wish WMW would post the name of this town, so I could go see it for myself.

Does Wal-Mart have a negative impact on most local economies?  YES… in various insidous ways!  Does Wal-Mart cause some people to lose good paying jobs?  YES!  This has been well documented.  Does Wal-Mart bully and squeeze suppliers just to make an extra penny or two?  Again, YES… this has been well documented.  Is Wal-Mart’s health care plan for its associates abysmal, and does Wal-Mart dump associates who need insurance but don’t “qualify” onto state/federal public programs.  YES!  It’s a matter of public record.

Maybe if Wal-Mart Watch got a little more focused and decided what they want their message to be… maybe if Wal-Mart Watch got rid of all the pro Wal-Mart Trolls… maybe if Wal-Mart Watch would get rid of the hyperbole and just stick to the FACTS, some readers might find this website to be a little more credible.

does wm have a negative impact on local economies with their low prices?no. does wm have a high amount of folks on welfare and govt assistance?no.does wm cause some people to lose good paying jobs?absolutely not.does wm bully suppliers?no.maybe screwed by if you got your head out of your ass and were not so dam brainwashed by the ufcw labor union and govt and internet bs and lies on wm this would be a better site.your postings are so full of bs and propaganda you cant think straight.screwed by there are more on welfare at other retailers and union grocers you shop at regularly than at wm.thats a proven fact.i have debunked all your bs claims in your postings.got a rebuttal on that one buddy?how does wms low prices cost others jobs you dumb moron?

how does wm screwed by cost other people that work in other retailers and other industries their good paying jobs?these other places lose their employees by their refusal to pay living wages and benefits bscrewed by not what walmart does or does not do.pull your head out of your rear end you dumb sob

This site blows me away - I can’t believe that a bunch of adults sit around and criticize a business for acting like a business. Every corporation on earth tries to increase profits, decrease labor costs, cut overtime for employees, decrease tax payments, etc. How is Walmart, in any way, an exception to what all businesses do to survive??? You guys are making it seem like an exception to the rule, when it’s not. Since the beginning of time, in every nation, humankind has operated on the principle that the less you have to pay for something, the better. Now along comes the smug anti-walmarters, who twist and skew logic and economics to the point where they would have us believe that we should be paying MORE for stuff. Wow. That is so stupid, I need to sit down and take five.

You accuse Walmart of greed, but I hope you all understand that your primary motivations are greedy too - you want more, better, higher-paying jobs for YOURSELVES. Don’t give me this “I really care about the poor Chinese worker and his sweatshop” crap - nobody with half a brain buys that - quit lying to me, and more importatnly, quit lying to yourselves. As it is now, those jobs are being done by Chinese because you and your sense of entitlement have priced yourselves out of the market, and that really gets your goat, doesn’t it???

Walmart makes kids unhappy on Christmas?? . . .  Are you joking??? Crappy jobs at Walmart???? If they’re so bad, and there are better jobs out there, then why don’t you quit and get a better one?? Are you being coerced into working there??? By Whom?? Explain that to me, cuz I’m not getting it.

You guys are thinking with your hearts so much, your brains have stopped working.

Santa’s Little helper,

What a great post, you hit the nail right square on the head!!  It’s just too bad that to most of the people here, it will fly right over their heads and they will probably comeback with the old “the ‘they all do it’ argument isn’t valid”!!  It’s sad that they can’t see the point, that you shouldn’t complain about people getting MORE, when you are asking for the SAME thing!!

Screwedby,

You were doing good, until you went back to the WMW playbook!!  You answered YES to questions that require a NO answer and use the “It’s been well documented” tag!!  Problem is, ‘Well documented’ by WHOM?  In order for those answers to be YES, the MAJORITY of people would have to allow it to happen, does not majority rule in this country?  If not, why not? 

I have still to understand, how Wal-Mart can build a store in an area where it is NOT WANTED and put other businesses out of business, how do they do that, explain please?  How do they get people to shop where they don’t want to?  How do they get people to leave higher paying jobs to work there?  How do they “DUMP” people into government healthcare, when they have NO obligation even to provide healthcare in the first place?  Why, if they don’t care about their employees, do they offer a wide variety of benefits, when they DON’T have to offer any?

I know ahead of time, that you will not answer these questions, because you can’t, without laughing to yourself while doing it!!

“Since the beginning of time, in every nation, humankind has operated on the principle that the less you have to pay for something, the better”

Please cite this.

Nice glossy presentation, Santa’s Little helper, but riddled with inaccuracies.

How is Wal-Mart different from any other business you ask. Name another business on earth that churns away at the level of Wal-Mart, ($346 billion in sales/1.8 million employees) for a paltry 3.6% profit?

Despite all the dazzling zeros, Wal-Mart is nothing more than a money grubbing retail strip miner, only able to process the lowest grade ore. Buying from slaves to sell to poor people.

...they would have us believe that we should be paying MORE for stuff.

Arguing quality with capitalists is a exercise in futility, so instead, try this one on. How about paying the same for better? You know, no lead, no ecoli, something that doesn’t linger in our hand only a moment between Wal-Mart and the landfill?

...skew logic and economics...

Your logic and economics are unsustainable. They are based on a narrow view which doesn’t include all the costs of Wal-Mart’s business model.

“Name another business on earth that churns away at the level of Wal-Mart, ($346 billion in sales/1.8 million employees) for a paltry 3.6% profit? “

“Wal-Mart is nothing more than a money grubbing retail strip miner”

“Money grubbing” all while making a only “paltry 3.6% profit”.  Hm… something screwy in that mathematical theory of the retail world.

It’s Your “Playbook” That’s Gotten a Little Old, RDS!

Enough said.

Now for anyone with last minute Christmas Shopping for their kids or anyone who’s concerned about “paying too much” here’s a site with over 100 lead-free toys. The best part is, this company is headquatered in Ohio, and has 3 state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in the United States.

Where was WMW in getting this information out 4-6 weeks ago?

Ken V,

“Name another business on earth that churns away at the level of Wal-Mart, ($346 billion in sales/1.8 million employees) for a paltry 3.6% profit?”

Wouldn’t this be an argument used against a “GREED” argument?  Low profit, suggests LESS greed, higher profits suggest MORE greed!!

“How about paying the same for better?”

Nice thought, but, then, why aren’t American companies doing just that?  How come ‘quality’, as you put it, seems to always cost 10 times more?

“something that doesn’t linger in our hand only a moment between Wal-Mart and the landfill?”

This is a fallacy promoted by anti Wal-Marters!!  Fact: I have 3 T.V.’s bought from Wal-Mart as long as 10 years ago, and they still operate just fine!!  Using your logic, people would be constantly buying the same things over and over again, week after week, and somehow don’t notice it, right?  Then, your claim that all suppliers to Wal-Mart, make inferior products, that equate to JUNK, is laughable to say the least!!  A Nintendo system from Wal-Mart, is the exact same system sold at Best Buy and other stores!!  The only difference, is that Wal-Mart can sell it cheaper, because of the volume of sales and that 3.6% profit margin, compared to the higher profit margin at some other stores!!

And, all this talk about ‘lead’, ‘e-coli’, etc., are just ‘scare tactics’ to promote your cause, admit it!!  Fifty years ago, ALL paint was ‘lead based’ and so was gasoline, and somehow everyone didn’t DIE from it!!  And, ‘E-coli’ can be present ANYWHERE, not just something Wal-Mart adds to it’s foods!!

Tell us, why would any business, try to kill off it’s customer base, and suppliers, that’s just plain STUPID talk!!

rds stop making stupid arguments like bbrd and mary. you are just ruining my already worthless crap about other companies doing the same thing. stop making comments that i cannot support against other retailers and manufacturers since i have no data or evidence of any kind to back up my bs or your bs and whatever i say for readers to believe anything because they are idiots and morons for wanting better quality products or better wages or better behavior from a retailer like walmart. stop making the walmart team look stupid by talking about 50 year old paint

A Nintendo system from Wal-Mart...

A what? :o)

What about that shirt you’re wearing? Made by a Bangladeshi slave girl. Nice!

As the largest retailer on the planet, Wal-Mart has done more to promote disposability than any other. Instead of making it cheaper, how about making it last longer.

The vast majority of the “stuff” rolling off conveyor belts 24/7/365 at Wal-Mart Distribution Centers is headed for the landfill. Just to create enough cream to skim off the top. There’s a hidden cost in there that you fail to see.

someone rds is claiming they are me but they are not.look at the tone of my remarks and you can tell its me.screwed by cant answer a question.he runs and hides when the truth comes out like his buddy sdv.

Whoever said you had “tone,” matthew?

What kind of a LOSER would want to pretend he’s you mv?

Ken V in Texas: Your 4:43 A.M. post about “the majority of stuff headed to the landfill” brought to mind a comment some poster made a while back-that W/M also stands for
Waste Management-the garbage company. It could also mean,Waste Manufacturer,too! This gives a whole new meaning to WalMart being a trashy corporation.

you are a real loser screwed by and a wimp and you are not a real man.a real man would give a straight answer and not run and hide like you alwaysd o when you are asked a question.walmart is a good place that treats workers well and has halfway decent benefits unlike all the fast food joints. if wms benefits are so poor screwed by then why do they offer many reasonable affordable health insurance plans that the company pays a very high percentage of?answer that.

matthew vantress in gresham oregon: And you are a winner becase why matthew?

Matthew has a big cock that’s why he’s a winner and i’m such a loser.  My cock is tiny.

BINGO! Looks Like I Struck a Nerve With Someone

Only the most insecure and gender confused men have to go around bragging about their “manhood.”

Do you have a BIG GUN collection too?

“...fruitcake infested with bugs?”

Vantress, RDS, mary and bbrd and (well OK, the entire WalMart/Edelman internet ‘war room’ fraud group) are all obvious WalMart product exhibits of this hardened insect casa/gift conumdrum. The problem with these pro-WalMart worship fruitcakes is traditional and similar in the sense of, How do you get rid of them?

WalMart- Can we get fruitcake made in China and sell it to Americans as something else they don’t need or want?

SDV in: Speaking of fruitcake made in China, how do we know that some of the Edelman “Talent” isn’t an import,also? Ha,so??Perhaps it’s just me, but some of the posts,with missing prepositions ,sound vaguely exotic to me,but then again , that’s a subjective assessment.

What kind of a LOSER would want to pretend he’s you mv?

Takes one to know one, right?

A Nintendo system from Wal-Mart, is the exact same system sold at Best Buy and other stores!!  The only difference, is that Wal-Mart can sell it cheaper, because of the volume of sales and that 3.6% profit margin, compared to the higher profit margin at some other stores!!

Not exactly, RDS - big-ticket item companies like Nintendo and Apple have this little price-fixing thing going-on in the marketplace --regardless of where you buy their best-selling items, it’s always going to be the same price.

Case in point - the Nintendo Wii, if you can find it, sells for $249.99 at all large-format retailers (Mom and Pops and eBay is a different story).

Wal-Mart, on the other hand, did have the good idea to throw-in $15 iTunes gift cards to make some of their iPods more of a “deal” for the holidays.

What kind of a LOSER would want to pretend he’s you mv?~Mr. Screwed, in denial

I can think of at least one who lives out west…