Wal-Mart Fails to Meet Donation Goals - UPDATE!

Wal-Mart China’s director of public relations: Jonathan Dong.

As if being a PR person for Wal-Mart isn’t bad enough.  I can’t imagine the degree of added difficulty being responsible for Chinese PR.

I have to tweak Jonathan’s statement a little, so that it more accurately reflects the reality of Wal-Mart’s business model..  “<i>making money is easy; spending money is difficult.”

There.  Much better.  We’ve known for a long time that Wal-Mart has had a problem with opening its wallet.

In the meantime, on the campaign trail, Sarah Palin told ABC News’ Charles Gibson today, “A Culture of Life is best for America.” I never did understand how one can be “pro life” and “pro war” at the same time.

Be careful Sarah of using terms like “a culture of life,” Sarah.  That might be a little too “touchy-feely” for people like RDS and bbrd.

Screwedby,

“I never did understand how one can be “pro life” and “pro war” at the same time.”

And, you probably NEVER will, because you think war is about wanting to kill people!! 

“Be careful Sarah of using terms like “a culture of life,” Sarah.  That might be a little too “touchy-feely” for people like RDS and bbrd.”

We know all about “a culture of life”, that is something you will never understand, either!!  Someone who wants to DICTATE how others should live their lives and what they should and should not do, will never understand people standing on their own two feet!!  And if they fall, it’s alright to help them stand up, but not in their best interest, to carry them around for the rest of their lives, or until their legs atrophy!!  It has to do with ‘giving someone a fish and teaching someone to fish’!!

The political rhetoric on this page is getting Way off topic. I don’t disagree with RDS of this one. It is better to teach a man (or woman) how to fish. This is simple common sense. An overused cliche’ that both political parties can throw at each other all day. I will repeat however, that Sarah Palin is Glib, Condesending and obviously in bed with the oil companies. ddrb hit the nail on the head when reffering to her as “Dickless Cheney”. She’s everthing thing wrong with the political “right” wrapped in a pretty package. Remember going out on Halloween and checking the goodies your kids get for anything that isn’t right? “Razor Blade hidden in an Apple” that’s Sarah Palin. I for one am exasperated by the Republican leadership lining their and their “friends” pockets with my tax dollars.

Now let’s talk about Wal*Mart and the hypocracy that is so evident in RDS’s postings. You want to talk about people falling down and not carrying them arround forever. Let’s get together and get Wal*Mart to stop “knee-capping” the tax payer’s, and the American Workers. I know a lot of laid off people right now who want to work. Wal*Mart is shrinking the American Job base and the American Tax base. Enough is Enough. American’s are not lazy. It’s time for the Glib “Right Winger’s” to stop with the BS. Its old news and boring tripe. So RDS, stop trying to mix (confuse?) Substance with Rhetoric. I don’t question your smarts, but I can smell your BS coming through my computer screen! Do you work for Wal*Mart? Do you own Wal*Mart stock? What is your motivation for even being here?

I don’t see any need for Wal*Mart to donate any money to any Chinese Charity… They’ve already donatated all of America’s Middle Classes Savings. China should and is to a large degree supporting us now. They own all of our debt. As smart as the Chinese political establishment has shown itself to be be, I have to wonder if they had any idea what a bunch of yahoos they were climbing into bed with. I am glad, that if we were going to auction off our little 232 year old country to the highest bidder, it was China and not Russia. I just can’t see us going out for Russian carry out… Would you like beets with that?

EM*F,

“I know a lot of laid off people right now who want to work.”

I know that somehow, you think that ALL people who are laid off, even in industries like the auto industry, is somehow the result of Wal-Mart and things like high gas prices, etc. have NOTHING to do with it, but, how much WORSE off would these people be, without the lower prices at Wal-Mart!!

“Do you work for Wal*Mart? Do you own Wal*Mart stock? What is your motivation for even being here?”

You need to pay attention, because I have answered ALL of those questions before!!  But, once again: I am retired from a factory job (at age 59), I own 50 shares of Wal-Mart stock (which I bought last Oct. as a test and have made almost $1000, I also bought 50 shares of Costco at the same time and have LOST money on that one) and I SHOP there to save money and want that to continue (I also shop many other stores, wherever I can get a bargain)!!

EM*F,

BTW:  I was at Sam’s club today and it was wall to wall people, if people are hurting financially, it sure doesn’t show at the stores!!

RDS
“BTW:  I was at Sam’s club today and it was wall to wall people, if people are hurting financially, it sure doesn’t show at the stores!!”

Low IQ and cheap credit… Nothing more.

So, I don’t think you have ever answered my question:
Do you considder yourself “patriotic”? And I’ll ad to it: I one sentence how do you describe patriotism?

EM*F,

“Do you considder yourself “patriotic”?”

YES!!

“And I’ll ad to it: I one sentence how do you describe patriotism?”

That’s hard to do in one sentence, but I’ll give it a try!!  I think ‘patriotism’ is love of country and supporting the principles of the Constitution and our founding fathers, that have made this country so great!!

One thing that I think ISN’T ‘patriotic’ is disrespecting the office of the President of the United States!!  Dislikeing him and letting people know you think he is doing a ‘poor’ job is one thing, but calling him names (like ‘idiot’, or ‘right wing nut-job), so the whole world can hear, is another thing altogether!!  When you disrespect the President, you disrespect the whole country!!  Protesters have a right to protest, but, they have gotten so used to calling the police ‘Pigs’ and others in authority sleazy names, it has worked it’s way up to the highest office!!  How can others in the world, respect a country where it’s own citizens treat their elected officials in such a ‘poor’ manner?  It’s no wonder that the U.S. is losing respect around the world!!  If you want to change things, that’s fine, but, do it in an upright manner, don’t sink to the levels of the ‘mud-slingers’, they are the ones destroying the system!!

RDS,
Good job on the one sentence answer. I agree with you.

As far as the current administration’s and America’s respect and/or lack there of, I’ll give you a one sentence answer: Respect has to be earned.

It’s our elected officials jobs to run our government and to that degree let there actions demonstrate to the rest of the world that America is a country to be admired and emulated. Much of the disrespect America has experienced arround the globe over the last 6 or so years, has alot to do with the highly publisized “Freedom Fries” and other such actions that are attributed not to our leaders but to the American people. Slagging off other countries, especially allies is the height of disrespect. We can thank whoever was behind this type of propaganda for the loss of the World’s support after 9-11. That and the fact that Bush sent poor old Colin Powell to openly lie to the entire global community. Before that, Colin could have made a very interesting Presidential candidate. He has since been stripped of all credibility. I guess you could say he took one for the Gipper.

Good News! The good news is that the world is a forgiving place (at least some of it). It’s not so bad travelling abroad for Americans anymore. I’d stay out of the Middle East and parts of Africa… But the people who always loved Americans still love us and realize we all make mistakes.

PS: I personally don’t know anyone who call police “Pigs”.

Wal*Mart Economy UpDate #1:

BEIJING (Reuters) - China’s central bank, acting against a background of extreme stress in global financial markets, cut benchmark lending rates by 0.27 percentage point on Monday.

The cut lowers the cost of one-year bank loans to 7.20 percent.

Benchhmark deposit rates remain unchanged with the one-year rate at 4.14 percent.

The People’s Bank of China also cut the reserve requirement for all except the country’s five biggest banks and the Postal Savings Bank by 1 percentage point.

It is the first time that the central bank has lowered the proportion of deposits that lenders must hold in reserve since November 1999.

The cut in lending rates takes effect on September 16; the cut in reserve requirements goes into effect on September 25, the bank said on its website, http://www.pbc.gov.cn.

The PBOC said the aim of the easing was to maintain fast and stable economic growth.

Monday’s cut marked a partial reversal of a steady stream of increases in required reserves, which the PBOC raised on 18 occasions between July 2006 and June 2008 to mop up cash flooding into the banking system from China’s balance of payment surplus.

Wal*Mart Economy UpDate #2:

As our Banking institutions are now falling like dominoes, Americans (especially Wal*Mart supporter’s) should remember the old saying: Nothing in Life is Free.

The Question Is...

Do you think fanatical flag worship and wearing little American flag pins on the label is “patriotic?”

It seems Larry in USN has more of a problem with Obama Barack’s name and ethnic heritage than anything else.  Do these kinds of people believe that Obama does not love this country, and that he won’t defend the principles of the U.S. Constitution?

It kills me when people like RDS talk about “supporting the constitution.  I think what both RDS and Larry in USN mean is that it’s “patriotic” to support the constitution as they undertand it and define it.

One of the more stupid remarks that RDS has made, is that the “right to life” that is talked about in the Declaration of Independence, simply means that people have the right “not to be killed.” Once again, in my opinion, you can’t talk about “the right to life” without defining or talking about the quality of that life.

I’m sick of the flag-waving, right wing-nut, fanatical, gun-toting NRA “patriots” in this country trying to force their undertanding of the Second Amendment on the rest of us.

I think this amendment has always been more about state rights or collective rights, than it has been about the “individual right” to own a gun.  The wording of the amendment says that it is the right of “the people.” I think the framers of the constitution meant that it was the right of free citizens to own guns as a means of defending themselves via a “well regulated militia.”

Since we have all the major branches of the U.S. military defending this country, as well as the National Guard in most states, this I believe renders the Second Amendment, if not obsolete, then terribly outdated.

Even Sarah “The Great White Hunter” Palin does not get this.  In her recent interview with Charles Gibson, she started talking about owning hunting guns when the subject turned to banning “handguns” and “semi-automatic assault weapons.”

Nobody… I repeat NOBODY has ever suggested that the individual right of owning hunting guns should be taken away from private citizens.

Screwed,
I don’t disagree with a thing you just posted. I do want to point out that as you well know, that there is a group of business and political operatives that gain from a divided America. This is a group that has made Wal*Mart into a Republican vs Democrat issue. Of course it’s total BS, but as so many other groups have found ( I never miss a chance to mention the Nazis) but today, right here in the United States someone or something is looking to keep the people divided. Truth be told Wal*Mart is a political issue. With the help of Corporate America, Elected officials and the Banking Institutions, Wal*Mart has set up a Country Within a Country. This “Country” is not a democracy and it’s leader’s are not elected. Wal*Mart the Country is asking for American aid, paid for by our tax dollars while they attack the very fabric of our democracy. So again, I say that this is not a Republican or a Democrat Issue. It’s just another attack on American’s Unity by the bad guys. Wal*Mart is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA. The next president is getting handed a real can of worms. I don’t envy either candidate. I will say that I’m not willing on taking a chance on winding up with Dickless Cheney in the White house. We’ve had 8 Year’s of Haliburton running the oval office and don’t need another 4.

Be looking for the Sarah Palin photos shopping at Walmart, Just like a real mom in the news media. Propaganda, I love it. I can feel the power surging through me!!! Shop at my stores! Give me Your Money! Trust Me!

RDS
““I never did understand how one can be “pro life” and “pro war” at the same time.” “

Don’t Kill Babies! Need More Cheap Labor!

Screwedby,

“It seems Larry in USN has more of a problem with Obama Barack’s name and ethnic heritage than anything else.”

Seems that you do too, the name is Barack Obama!!

“It kills me when people like RDS talk about “supporting the constitution.  I think what both RDS and Larry in USN mean is that it’s “patriotic” to support the constitution as they undertand it and define it.”

No, not as I define it, but rather, The ‘spirit’ in which it was written!!  Our founding fathers would NEVER have advocated generational welfare recipients or the extent which the Federal Government has it’s tentacels into every aspect of our lives!!  One other thing that they are probably ‘rolling over in their graves’ about is our TAX system and excessive government spending to support our ‘bloated’ bureaucracy!!

“One of the more stupid remarks that RDS has made, is that the “right to life” that is talked about in the Declaration of Independence, simply means that people have the right “not to be killed.” Once again, in my opinion, you can’t talk about “the right to life” without defining or talking about the quality of that life.”

That is where I disagree with you, the ‘right’ to ‘quality of life’, is not a Constitutional given right, quality is based on how much ‘effort’ you put forth to obtain that ‘quality of life’!!  The Constitution only allows you the ability to chase after ‘quality’, it doesn’t say that you are ‘guaranteed’ Quality!!  Show us where it says, you can sit on your sofa and the government is responsible to maintain any lifestyle that you consider of quality to you!!

“I think this amendment has always been more about state rights or collective rights, than it has been about the “individual right” to own a gun.”

Funny, how you say “I think” here, yet complain about what others “think”, even the Supreme Court!!  Are you saying, that ‘the people’ have somehow lost the ‘right’ of ‘self defence’, because we have a military?  If you are confronted on the street, by a gang member with a gun, do you say, “Hey wait a minute, while I call the National Guard”?  If it were up to me, there would be NO guns, period, but it’s not, so, as long as criminals are armed, why do you feel that it shouldn’t be the right of citizens to be armed?  And, people can’t just be walking around with ‘hunting rifles’ or ‘shotguns’!!  The problem your type of groups have, is that you believe that if WE get rid of OUR guns or anything else (like NUKES), everybody else will just automatically follow suit, fact is, if there is NO FEAR FACTOR, criminals have nothing to fear!!

BTW:  I don’t own any guns of ANY sort and I don’t belong to the NRA!!

It Figures!

It figures that you’d be the first to jump on me for inadvertantly reversing Barack Obama’s name, RDS.  Finding fault with someone’s spelling or grammar is what petty people like you do when they can’t bring anything meaningful to the “discussion.” Would you care to compare this to the many times I’ve used his name correctly? Making a typo here or there happens sometimes when you type as fast as I do.  Get over it.

As for all of your other asinine comments, I’m not going to waste time addressing them.

Screwed are you also upset when the likes of ddrb continue to critique other people for their spelling and grammer mistakes because she’s famous for it around here.  I’ll look for your critique of her when she does it next.

Screwedby,

“It figures that you’d be the first to jump on me for inadvertantly reversing Barack Obama’s name, RDS.”

That’s funny, you chastize Larry in USN for HIS problem with Barack’s name and then you chastize ME for pointing out YOUR problem with Barack’s name!!

“Making a typo here or there happens sometimes when you type as fast as I do.  Get over it.”

Reversing someone’s name, is NOT a typo, or a spelling or grammar error!!

“As for all of your other asinine comments, I’m not going to waste time addressing them.”

Right, because my comments don’t agree with your view, they are asinine!!  Seeing how you are in favor of criminal rights, it would follow that you would call asinine, the advocation of victims rights!!  Being a professional protestor, you are probably no stranger to the legal system!!  And, I’d bet that you do have friends that call police “pigs”!!

That’s funny...

You’re clueless RDS how funny you are with your annoying habit of starting many of your rants with “That’s funny,” “It’s funny,” “Funny,” “The funny thing is,” and “Isn’t if funny how...”

You shouldn’t be surprised why we laugh at you.

“You shouldn’t be surprised why we laugh at you.”

And, you’d be suprised at how many people get a chuckle out of your posts too!!  I say that’s ‘funny’, because most of what you say is always good for a big ‘belly laugh’!!

I Know...I Know

“...most of what you say is always good for a big ‘belly laugh’!!” ~RDS

That’s because YOUR butt is usually in the cross hairs, RDS!

RDS,
What an ego! Get a grip! You are wrong on 98% of the issues on this board. You tow the company and political dogma line like a champ! But pullleeze, get over yourself. If I was ever on an airliner and found out you were the pilot, I’d ask to change flights! Jeez, if something went wrong you’d get on the intercom and tell everybody to pick themselves up by the boot straps and flap their arms.....

Wal*Mart Economy:cont.
Orman: It starts way back when there was nobody overseeing and regulating. Nothing. It’s how many times have I said on this program, what were they all thinking? Why were they lending money to people who shouldn’t have been borrowing money? Why were they packaging these things? What about the rating agencies? Why weren’t the rating agencies rating everything the way they should have been and now they’re making matters worse? So whether it’s fraud or not, was there deceit going on? I don’t know if it was deceit as much as just total irresponsibility is what caused this.

Suzy Sweetheart, You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. This current banking fiasco is simply the result of the government making sure that American consumers continue
to consume. Its a big Ponzi scheme! Give everybody tons of cheap credit, let them spend it on cheap crap and tell everybody that the economy is fudamentaly sound. I think Ross Perott was right, the economy is sound it’s a big SUCKING SOUND! It’s the sound of the richest country in the world sending it’s tax dollars off to China.
I’m not saying we have to close our borders to international trade. But let’s call a pig a pig! Wal*Mart is the barameter. As long as Wal*Mart remains the nations largest employer, the problem is NOT fixed. Wal*Mart and their Big Box Rivals are not going to go away, but like a malignant growth they have st up their own blood vessels and are sapping America of its economic nutrients. They simply can not be alowed to grow for the sake of the Nations Health and Well Being. They must be shrunk, or removed. The blood supply must be cut off. Only then will America regain its former health. Have you ever been to a Funeral? People look at the body of their loved one and comment on how good they look? Ever been to a Morgue? They don’t look so good do they? A service Economy is a Fake Economy.

PARIS — Is the United States no longer the global beacon of unfettered, free-market capitalism?

In extending a last-minute $85 billion lifeline to A.I.G., the troubled insurer, Washington has not only turned away from decades of rhetoric about the virtues of the free market and the dangers of government intervention, it has also likely undercut future American efforts to promote such policies abroad.

“I fear the government has passed the point of no return,” said Ron Chernow, a leading American financial historian. “We have the irony of a free-market administration doing things that the most liberal Democratic administration would never have been doing in its wildest dreams.”

PS: I personally don’t know anyone who call police “Pigs”.

That’s because you’re not sixty something years old. RDS’s language is as outdated as his ideas.

Fuzz? Flatfoot? Copper? Smokey?

It’s no wonder that the U.S. is losing respect around the world!!

The fact that we had an imbecile as president for the last eight years had nothing to do with it. The fact that some folks pointed out Bush was an imbecile caused our international prestige to drop.

At this stage of the game do you think investing in a 401K for retirement was a good ‘choice’?

“How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?” ~ London’s Daily Mirror Page 1 headline on Bush reelection.