Wal-Mart Invites Green Companies to Bentonville

“but doesn’t actually buy supplies from any of them. “

The article doesn’t say how much stuff they ended up buying from them, how did you determine that they didn’t buy anything from them?  It is at meetings like this where Walmart’s buyers find new merchandise to buy to put in the stores so it is unlikely that they put on a huge production like that without buying any new items.

Dave: The article doesn’t state if WalMart ordered any of these showcased items. &OU;work for WalMart, couldn’t you find out from Mr. Waddoups?

Correction: YOU work for WalMart, couldn’t YOU find out....

I’m sure I will find out in the coming months, but by then this story will be buried.  You would think that Walmart watch would take the time to research before stating this, “but doesn’t actually buy supplies from any of them.” It’s usually a good idea to back up statements like that otherwise you lose your credibility, that is assuming this site has any left.

Dave: AND it’s an even better idea to establish one’s own credibilty,and backing up one’s OWN statements, beofre attacking another’s credibilty. Dave, I guess you must have gotten the recent “Memo” for want of a better word, that is reported to state that WalMart workers can be terminated for speaking out against the company-anywhere. At least, that’s what’s being reported at Wake Up WalMart . Got a problem with that site’s credibilty,too?

Got a problem with that site’s credibilty,too?

Big-time!

Any denials WalMart is telling their employees this?  And on the heels of the company using their clout to influence the vote FOR the Republican candidate,by telling the WalMart employees that voting for a Democratic Presidential candidiate could create” problems with their jobs?"Can you spell I-n-t-i-m-i-d-a-t-i-o-n?

I can’t speak for the Enviro. Team, but personally I wouldn’t write something like that unless I could back it up. I’ve always enjoyed dangling an item out there and when the pro side gobbles it down, hit them over the head with an iron-clad reference.

Is that perverse? :o)

The Walmart mentality propagates the idea that more crap will make us happy. ~ Phil Butler

“ AND it’s an even better idea to establish one’s own credibilty,and backing up one’s OWN statements, beofre attacking another’s credibilty.”

I never made any statement in this topic that needed to be backed up, and when I do need to back one up I do.  All I said was that they made a statement with nothing to back it up which is obvious if you read the article. 

“ Dave, I guess you must have gotten the recent “Memo” for want of a better word, that is reported to state that WalMart workers can be terminated for speaking out against the company-anywhere. At least, that’s what’s being reported at Wake Up WalMart . Got a problem with that site’s credibilty,too? “

I haven’t heard anything about it, nor have I seen any such memo, and yes that site does have no credibility.

“Chatting about “people” (actually manager means talking about walmart) on the internet will be under scrutiny. “you better have your facts straight when talking about people”.

This is a scare tactic! To ward off negative press. Please post this new policy!”

Is this the “memo” that you were talking about?  Did they bother to get any of the background before that?  It’s more likely that there was a bunch of drama at this persons store with people talking on myspace and other such sites. The fact that they said “people” and that Wake up Walmart had to change the wording to get it to mean what they wanted it to tend to make my theory more believable.

Dave: Why don’t you go to Wake Up WalMart and research it for yourself?Why ask ME what background info they have?Better yet,why don’t YOU set THEM,AND the record straight for ALL of us, including WalMart employees?  After all, YOU are the one who works for WalMart.

Better yet,why don’t YOU set THEM,AND the record straight for ALL of us, including WalMart employees?  After all, YOU are the one who works for WalMart.

Because Dave knows better, you nincompoop…

Obviously, you have never worked for a large organization—anyone who goes spouting-off at the mouth is often perceived by the masses as that organization’s representative.

And by the way, has anyone told you lately that your “research” stinks like 3-day-old fish?

bbrd:Mock puppet
A mock puppet is an account created to impersonate or humiliate another person on the forum or discussion board, using a similar name ~~~~~~~~~~~~~NOTE: How long have you been using a play on my initials? About the same length of time you’ve become obsessed with fabricating lies,innuendo, and very personal insults about me.

“you have never worked for a large organization” ~bbrd

But you have, haven’t you bbrd...er, I mean “Someone in USA.”

Do you see how bold bbrd gets ddrb, when he thinks people have forgotten about his true identity?  Just know what… or should I say who you are really dealing with ddrb!

Has everyone else forgotten how “bbrd” failed to cover his tracks last August?

“Speaking of “changing the subject”, you, my dear, are a good one to talk…”
bbrd in
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 at 02:47 PM
“WM wouldn’t be a blip on your local radar for at least another 8 years, my dear.”
bbrd in
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 at 08:39 AM

“my dear? This is Someone in USA-speak for: “I’m talking down to you because I think I’m intellectually and logically superior to you!”

Nobody needs to make the case as to why “bbrd” and “Someone in USA” are one-in-the-same person, because “bbrd” got a little careless and over-confident, and exposed himself with these two posts, last August:

“My role with the company is not to debate with you and your friends, but I still try to respond when someone refers to me.”
Someone in USA
Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 05:29 PM

“I still post at the Writing on the Wal - frequently, in fact.”
bbrd in USA
Thursday, August 28,2008 at 07:02 PM

FACT CHECK:  “bbrd” has never made posts on “The Wal,” that I’m aware of.  But “Someone in USA” has many times.

FACT CHECK:If you look at the URL associated with both “Someone” in USA and “bbrd” in USA, it points to: http://someoneinusa.blogspot.com/

“Moving forward, anyone out there want to take a guess how December retail sales is going to play-out?”
bbrd in
Monday, December 31, 2007 at 09:41 AM

Care to predict how this December’s retail sales are going to “play out” for WalMart, “Someone in USA?”

“Why don’t you go to Wake Up WalMart and research it for yourself?Why ask ME what background info they have?Better yet,why don’t YOU set THEM,AND the record straight for ALL of us, including WalMart employees?  After all, YOU are the one who works for WalMart. “

I wasn’t really asking you a question.  It was more of a rhetorical question.  I did go there and they either don’t have any more background on the store, or they don’t care to post it.  Either way it makes it seem as though I am right because if they have the background and didn’t post it then most likley the store situation hurt their story or they would have posted it, and if they didn’t have the background story then it just proves they don’t care to research to find out the truth which is pretty much normal on these sites.

Might be a little off the thread here, but Wal-Mart spends more on promoting ‘green’ to win over the GREEN shoppers.
Waste is most prevalent in most Wal-Marts, such as recyling paper etc.
At our Wal-Mart, we dispose of copies of TLE customer work orders, tire quotes, empty oil cartons in the trash, than using blue box recyling.
Every day, empty or 1/4 full motor oil containers, air filter containers are tossed in the compactor, there by polluting the landfill. Approx 2 56 gallon bags are tossed daily. Any mention of a better recycling system in TLE area are fallen on deaf years ny management.  GREEN..........BS!

Most of that stuff is supposed to be recycled in super sandwich bales according to the company program.  Since Walmart has a plan for that set up already I don’t think you can blame that on the company.  It’s kind of stupid on your stores part too since the store gets money for the recyclables in the bales.

Dave: “I did go there and they either don’t have any more background on the store, or they don’t care to post it.  Either way it makes it seem as though I am right .."~Dave~~~~~~NOTE: NO,Dave, it doesn’t make YOU seem right about your assumptions. You are entitloed to your own opinions,NOT your own facts. None of us are. Did it EVER occur to you that the site MIGHT be protecting the privacy of the person(s) at a particular store,(s) so they DON"T get fired?

—anyone who goes spouting-off at the mouth is often perceived by the masses as that organization’s representative.

Hey, Dave, didn’t we have this discussion a few threads back and you assured me Wal-Mart has no policy against “spouting-off at the mouth”?

For those of you interested in reading some of the things current/former Wal-mart associates have to say, I direct you to a messageboard near and dear to my heart:

http://www.walmart-blows.com/forum/

Did You Say “Gobble Down,” Ken?

It looks like neither RDS nor “bbrd/Someone in USA” cared to “nibble” on this one.

If anyone cares to revisit the following thread, they can judge for themselves whether “bbrd” and “Someone in USA” are really the same person:

FIGHTING TO UNIONIZE WAL-MART CANADA
Posted by Eric Bull on Friday, August 22, 2008

“My role with the company is not to debate with you and your friends, but I still try to respond when someone refers to me.”
Someone in USA
Thursday, August 28 at 05:29 PM

“I still post at the Writing on the Wal - frequently, in fact.”
bbrd in USA
Thursday, August 28 at 07:02 PM

A simple click on either “Someone” or “bbrd” will take you to SomeoneinUSA’s pathetic blogspot: http://someoneinusa.blogspot.com/

You’re right, Ken.  Especially now, with more pressing matters on the minds of most Americans, this really is unimportant and irrelevant.

Hey ddrb:  The next time “bbrd/Someone in USA” accuses you of posting lengthy comments, just remind him of his words on his “Watching Wal-Mart” blogsite:

Moving On
“I’ve decided to move on to blogging about other things rather than exclusively about Wal-Mart. You can find my newest comments, insights, ramblings, and rants here.” ~Someone in USA, June 26, 2008

“I’ve always enjoyed dangling an item out there and when the pro side gobbles it down, hit them over the head with an iron-clad reference.  Is that perverse? :o)” ~Ken V

It’s not “perverse” Ken, it just plain fun, and it’s way too easy!

Laughing at you, Screwy. You might want to check your facts a little better.

Care to predict how this December’s retail sales are going to “play out” for WalMart, “Someone in USA?”

Actually, I would. Wal-Mart will be one of the few winners in December. Take that to the bank.

Screwed: It is a conundrum that bbrd/Someone has such obvious disdain for me and my commentaries, yet holds in highest esteem a website that has expressed interest TWICE in me contributing as a writer ,for them. To wit,from Someone in USA website:~~~” The Writing on the Wal
I’ve been rereading some of my more recent posts, both here and in the comments on other sites, and it seems that my position is softening. Maybe it’s because Wal-Mart is doing everything in its power to undermine my efforts to defend it. Maybe it’s because Edelman doesn’t respond to my emails. Maybe I’m tired of not getting paid for this. It’s probably a little of all three. However, I think at least part of the blame falls on the guys at The Writing on the Wal.

I found the site through Wal-Mart Watch when I was looking for Wal-Mart-related sites to leave comments on. I’d just started this blog, and thought I could get more hits if I posted in more places. At first I just left the usual pro-Wal-Mart line. If it works on the union sites, it should work everywhere. Right?

Wrong! These guys are pretty sharp. They take everything in and attempt to produce fair and balanced analyses of what’s going on in the Wal-Mart universe. I soon found myself tailoring posts to fit the more sophisticated discussions.

The bloggers don’t consider themselves anti-Wal-Mart; it’s more of an effort to put the truth out there and make people think about it. As owner Jeff Hess says, “It’s all about the conversation.” The posts do tend to lean toward the anti-Wal-Mart side, but at least you won’t find all of the union rhetoric. If you look hard enough, you might even find a guest post from yours truly (okay, so I saved you the trouble of looking; it’s cross-posted here anyway).

Even if I don’t always agree with their conclusions, I have nothing but respect for the way Jeff, Jonathan, Robert, and Peter defend their positions. The Writing on the Wal is the best Wal-Mart site on the Internet (except for this one, of course), and everyone interested in the topic ought to stop by, no matter which side of the debate they are on.
Labels: Blogs~~~~~~~~

posted by Someone in USA @ 10:26 PM ----------2006

Screwed: It is a conundrum that bbrd/Someone has such obvious disdain for me and my commentaries, yet holds in highest esteem a website that has expressed interest TWICE in me contributing as a writer...

Well, that can only mean ONE thing, can’t it?

Think about it…

“Well, that can only mean ONE thing, can’t it?"`bbrd~~~~~NOTE: I guess it “can only mean one thing” depends if I am speaking to one person, or two, bbrd/Someone.

I see dd is getting into the act now, too.

“Hey, Dave, didn’t we have this discussion a few threads back and you assured me Wal-Mart has no policy against “spouting-off at the mouth”? “

They don’t have a policy like that.  Of course when we were discussing it then I was going to get fired for posting on here.  Now DDRB is implying I am posting here because of that supposed policy.  I wish you guys could decide what the policy is and how it works before you start making up policies and posting them on here.

Dave:"Now DDRB is implying I am posting here because of that supposed policy. “~Dave~~~~NOTE: Care to decipher that accusation?The entire post?

ddrb,

“It is a conundrum that bbrd/Someone has such obvious disdain for me and my commentaries,”

What commentaries?  Ninety percent of what you post is (cut and pasted) material from others (half of which, has absolutly ‘nothing’ to do with Wal-Mart) and the other 10% is insulting people!!

“a website that has expressed interest TWICE in me contributing as a writer ,for them.”

Why have you not contributed, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands?

I wish you guys could decide what the policy is and how it works before you start making up policies and posting them on here.

I used to spend quite a bit of time reading comments on consumer sites and that quote has been applied to Wal-Mart many times. The debate still rages about what “One coupon per purchase” means.

Clear consistent policies are not a Bentonville strong point.

Live Better In Cheap Underwear

This is Ironic

Now we have RDS, who we “outed” after he tried to pass himself off as that great and memorable blogger “Donald,” indirectly trying to defend “Someone in USA”, who has been outed for posing as “bbrd.”

Live Better With Cheap Toilet Paper

You’re missing the obvious conclusion, Screwy: I must be RDS as well.

Screwed:You’re missing the obvious conclusion, Screwy:He may be “Larry,"as well.  Someone’s site advertises itself as a collection of thoughts, blogs, etc. If you click the “next blog” header on Someone’s site. it takes you to a complilation of Latin music and media.Wasn’t Larry the one posting a list of invectives AGAINST American women in favor of Latin women?

Does “bbrd/Someone in USA” Have a 3rd Identity?

If I had to place a bet ddrb, I’d put my money on John in and other variations of that.  It seems we rarely hear from “John” except with the heat is on “bbrd/Someone in USA.”

Sorry if I’m wrong on that at this time, “John”.  You really should hang around a little more and contribute to this blog so we get a true feeling for who you are and what you stand for.

Meatpuppet
The term meatpuppet or “meat puppet” is used as a pejorative description for a number of quite different online behaviors. Its earlier recorded use is in cyberpunk novelist William Gibson’s Neuromancer (1984).

When used as a Wikipedia term , it is commonly used to deprecate contributions from a new community member if the new member was (allegedly) recruited by an existing member only to back up the recruiting member’s position.

A number of other online sources, however, use the term “meatpuppet” for varied sockpuppet behaviors. For example, according to one online encyclopedia, a meat puppet “publishes comments on blogs, wikis and other public venues about some phenomenon or product in order to generate public interest and buzz"—that is, engages in the kind of behavior more widely known as astroturfing.

A recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education claims that “[t]he ‘meat puppet’ is a peculiar inhabitant of the digital world—a fictional character that passes for a real person online.”

Yet another online journal says the meat puppet is someone who posts “sick, insulting things” in order to discredit a point of view that is not the point of view of the account creator. This behavior is more commonly called “strawman sockpuppetry."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks for the information, ddrb!

“Meat Puppet,” “Mock Puppet,” “Sock Puppet,” or “Strawman?”

Personally, I don’t think either “Someone in USA / bbrd” or RDS are smart enough to knowingly employ these tactics.

ddrb,

“Yet another online journal says the meat puppet is someone who posts “sick, insulting things” in order to discredit a point of view that is not the point of view of the account creator. This behavior is more commonly called “strawman sockpuppetry”

Wow, that is an exact description of what Screwedby does when someone posts contrary to HIS view of things or to someone ‘new’, who works at Wal-Mart and disputes the views Screwedby promotes!!

Didn’t I Tell You ddrb?

Didn’t I just say that people like RDS aren’t smart enough to understand the concepts you’ve been trying to share with us?

Don’t bother wasting any more time on him.

I’m a little curious if there’s another name besides Troll, that describes phenomenons like RDS and “Someone in USA,” who become so quickly reviled and thoroughly discredited, no matter which blog they choose to visit, that they have to seek refuge or hide behind second and perhaps even third blogging personas such as “Donald” and “bbrd.”

Screwed: ..."I’m a little curious if there’s another name besides Troll,"~~~~~~NOTE: How about “verbal vermin”?

...except with the heat is on “bbrd/Someone in USA.”

Heat?  What heat??

Ninety percent of what you post is (cut and pasted) material from others (half of which, has absolutly ‘nothing’ to do with Wal-Mart) and the other 10% is insulting people!!

Couldn’t have said it better myself, RDS—oh, that’s right, I am you, via “Someone”.

I really need to keep these names straight!!  :0)

Why have you not contributed, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands?

Yeah, why is that?  I guess our gal just doesn’t have what it takes to take on the “intelligent angle"…

Screwed: I’m a little curious if there’s another name besides Troll, that describes phenomenons like RDS and “Someone in USA,” who become so quickly reviled and thoroughly discredited, no matter which blog they choose to visit, that they have to seek refuge or hide behind second and perhaps even third blogging personas such as “Donald” and “bbrd.”~Screwed

Screwed: How about another term, RATF- - - - R, for particularly egregious “ verbal vermin” trolls ,such as described above?

...phenomenons like RDS and “Someone in USA,” who become so quickly reviled and thoroughly discredited...

I wouldn’t exactly call disapproval from a handful of people who don’t agree as being “quickly reviled and thoroughly discredited”.

Now, if you happen to make posts on a more mainstream blog, m’dear, you couldn’t even begin to handle the backlash from people not quite as “like-minded"…

Perhaps that is why you back-pedaled on Mr. Feinman’s generous offer?

Aren’t you assuming facts that as yet to be introduced into evidence?  Why have YOU back pedaled ,or weren’t you even asked?

Why have YOU back pedaled ,or weren’t you even asked?

bbrd, did you want to answer that, or did she mean me?

@ddrb: Can you say, “conflict of interests”?

Give it Up… “bbrd/Someone in USA”

You’re really losing it.  Now “Someone in USA” is having a “conversation” with you, in a last ditch effort to make up think that you and he are two different people.

And you pride yourself on being a person of “logic” and “intelligence?”

“I wouldn’t exactly call disapproval from a handful of people...”

Would that be “the handful of people” who visited your blogspot and didn’t care enough to leave any comments?  You must have had a profound effect on them.  Did you have a counter on your blogspot to keep track of the many visitors you had?

Confession is liberating, Someone.  Just admit your jig is up.  Admit you’ve been caught with your pants down around your ankles.  Others may still have their doubts about you, but I felt you were a fraud the first time I saw you posting on WMW as “bbrd.”

Screwedby,

“that they have to seek refuge or hide behind second and perhaps even third blogging personas”

Let’s see, didn’t YOU once post under another ‘blogging persona’ on this site, before using ‘Screwedby’?  And, who knows how many others you have used!!

Confession is liberating, Someone.

Which one of us is he talking to?

Since he addressed Someone, I’ll let him answer…

Keep On Digging, “bbrd/Someone”

Exactly when did your break with reality occur, “bbrd/Someone”?

You’re not doing yourself any favors and you’re not helping your credibility by persisting in your little blogging persona shell game.

I suppose you could always try the “old RDS manuever” and try to convice us that somebody else must have been impersonating you as “Someone in USA” and “bbrd.” You never did give us your “explanation” as to why BOTH of your blogging personas, “bbrd” and “Someone in USA,” pointed readers to your blogspot,"Watching Wal-Mart.” (http://someoneinusa.blogspot.com/)

Exactly when did your break with reality occur, “bbrd/Someone”?

Funny, I’ve been wondering the same about you for some time, now!!

As I said earlier, you originally addressed Someone - I’ll let him answer…

Why have YOU back pedaled ,or weren’t you even asked?

I think she meant moi, Someone…

To date, I haven’t been asked to join WotW, which is just fine by me (remember, I’m not the one seeking “approval” by you people).

Let’s see, didn’t YOU once post under another ‘blogging persona’ on this site, before using ‘Screwedby’?  And, who knows how many others you have used!!

Thank you, me, er, I mean RDS…

“As I said earlier, you originally addressed Someone - I’ll let him answer… ”
bbrd in
Tuesday, October 14 at 12:17 PM

Oh go ahead “bbrd,” give it a shot.  It’s not like you and “Someone in USA” are really two different people.  Just answer the question:  “How come your post and Someone’s post this past August both pointed to the URL:  http://someoneinusa.blogspot.com?”

I haven’t been this entertained since I saw “Psycho.” You’ve got a real Norman Bates routine going “Someone in USA / bbrd.” Do you use a different voice for “bbrd”, Someone?

By the way, don’t go from bad to worse by groveling and pandering for support from RDS.  It’s just too pathetic to watch.

By the way, don’t go from bad to worse by groveling and pandering for support from RDS.

Weren’t you paying attention, Screwy? I am RDS. I use a different voice for him, too.

By the way, Screwy, since you can tell who a person is by clicking the link in their post, why don’t you click and find out who I really am?

The John McCain Quote of the Day

Nobody cares about your silly-ass games, Someone in USA!

Today’s McCain Quote:

“My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.” ~on Barack Obama and the state of the presidential campaign, Virginia Beach, Virginia, Oct. 13, 2008

You mean the place where you’re trailing Obama in the polls by as much as 10 points in many states?  Is this the place you’re talking about?  You better step it up a little. 

It’s so refreshing to see intellect trumping blind patriotism!

Nobody cares about your silly-ass games, Someone in USA!

And who has cared about you, lately?

Actually, didn’t you cast the first stone?

Obviously he just doesn’t care for it that I (we?) turned out to be Robert Greenwald.