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Wal-Mart Owes Pennsylvania Workers $78 Million

From Bloomberg:

Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world’s largest retailer, owes its hourly employees in Pennsylvania $78 million for unpaid rest breaks and hours worked beyond their regular shifts, a jury ruled today in a class action lawsuit.

Jurors in state court in Philadelphia assessed the damages after 2 hours of deliberations. Yesterday, the 12-member panel sided with two former Wal-Mart employees, finding the company forced workers to miss rest breaks and work later hours without pay. The jury said the company did provide unpaid meal breaks as required by law.

Today’s verdict is Wal-Mart’s second multimillion dollar loss in a group-employee lawsuit filed over wages in less than a year. In December, a California jury awarded $172.3 million to the company’s workers for missed meal breaks. In August, the judge in that case ordered Wal-Mart to obey state laws requiring rest breaks. More than 70 similar wage-and-hour suits have been filed against the Bentonville, Arkansas-based company.

“Wal-Mart still continues to cheat its workers. We’re not the ones that are the liars—they are,” Dolores Hummel, 53, one of the lead plaintiffs in the case, said before the verdict.

From Reuters via CNN Money:

Michelle Braun and Dolores Hummel, formerly employed by Wal-Mart, sued the retailer on behalf of current and former hourly employees, charging that it violated labor laws by having employees work during rest breaks or when they were “off the clock.”

But the jury found in Wal-Mart’s favor on the charge that it denied workers meal breaks.

The decision comes after a California jury in December ruled that Wal-Mart, based in Bentonville, Ark., pay $172 million in damages and compensation to about 116,000 current and former employees for denying meal breaks.

Plaintiffs in the 2001 California lawsuit claimed that Wal-Mart had failed to pay hourly employees for missed or interrupted meal breaks.

Wal-Mart has said it took steps to ensure meal breaks for its employees, including deploying technology to shut down cash registers if cashiers do not respond to alerts for breaks.

Posted by Laura Jack on Friday, October 13, 2006

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COMMENTS

i worked for walmart and i know how low life company it is. when i got injury in my neck they give me decision day. during my break time i worked by approval of assistant and support manager. and then the other manager give me vebral coaching. i didnt curse and and try to get me fired.  they play ploitices with employees. if pay get high they fire the employees. greed company. they use false statment from employyes to fire the employees. to keep government mouth shut they couple of millions of dollars for hiring illegal immargrates.

kathy in ca
Friday, October 13 at 03:43 PM

Wal Mart will appeal this ruling to a Republican Judge the will pay off and get away with it like they do with everything else.  Wal Mart AKS Republicans are above the law.

It’s cheaper for Wal Mart to payoff polititions like in Chicago and judges in Maryland.

Condoleezza Trandahl in Erie, PA
Friday, October 13 at 06:04 PM

Nice opinion Condolezza and I’m glad you have that much faith in the court system.  Now if you were only accurate in your statement especially since Maryland is so “left leaning” you would know there are very few conservative judges with a 2/1 Democrat majority in the state.

-Richard K

Richard K in
Friday, October 13 at 06:12 PM

I totally agree with you Condoleezza!  Ingore Republican slime like Richard K who will protect his slime ball employer at all costs.

As long as Republicans are allowed to steal elections including the upcoming mid terms, corrupt the courts and accept payoffs from Wal Mart how can any intelligent person have any faith on the courts and government as a whole? 

Wal Mart figures why should they change when they know they can get away with anything.

Angie Buckley in Pittsburgh
Friday, October 13 at 06:35 PM

I love walmart.  I also love poverty.  Were it not for poverty my true sam values could not be realized.  poverty helps keep the food we sometimes manage to eat more sacred.  i love walmart.  i will work for them for free.  although i can’t afford much walmart gives me friends i can talk to.  everytime i get depressed about my life i just open up sam’s book and read versus.  it helps me with my depression.  i like to know that i am making some rich person even richer because the bible says i dont need money.  The only thing i need is love and God.  God helps me through these times.  they say that a camel will get through the eye of a niddle faster than a rich man will get into heaven. so i like being poor.  i will go to heaven and see my friends and family.

thank you walmart. for you may make me poor now, but you will make my life richer in the end.

Sam Bless Everyone!!!

Mary Lou in whooville,AR
Friday, October 13 at 10:47 PM

Richard K,

Did you read on the WUWM blog, where cazar said that juries base their decisions on Sympathy and if the defendants had been unionized, the jury would have probably ruled in Wal-Marts favor, but because they were not, the jury ruled in the defendants favor.  So, now we have people who want justice to be based on Sympathy, instead of the rule of law.

And, here we have people talking about bribeing judges, corrupting courts, accepting payoffs and stealing elections.  I’m sure almost all judges are going to risk their careers just to make a few buck off of Wal-Mart. right?  Do they really believe that Wal-Mart is that powerful.  I wonder then, if they have that much power, why they don’t have the Department of Labor just put pressure on the unions to back off.  Their power could make it all go away, right?  Then they could have the Justice Department, (who’s the one in charge of that anyhow?), investigate the unions for corruption, if they don’t back off.

Bob in
Friday, October 13 at 10:51 PM

Mary Lou,

“thank you walmart. for you may make me poor now”

Don’t blame Wal-Mart if you are poor, they don’t make you poor, they don’t run your life, they don’t spend your paycheck, and they don’t make the choices for your life, YOU DO!!!  If you choose to continue to work in a place that keeps you poor, that’s YOUR fault, not Wal-Marts.  But, I guess it is easier to blame someone else for your situation, than it is to try to make your life better on your own, isn’t it?

Bob in
Friday, October 13 at 11:03 PM

Must be kind of humiliating when you can’t support your own company as a good place to work. Right Bobby boy?

JM in USA
Saturday, October 14 at 02:13 AM

I have worked for Wal-Mart for 18 years and can’t remember a time when I was ever told I couldn’t take my break. Yes, there have been days I have skipped my afternoon break, but that was my choice. They are always telling us to make sure we take all our breaks. About a month ago a bunch of us had to go to a meeting at another store about 1 hour away. We all took our morning break, lunch break and then left for home around 3:00. When we got back to our store we were all getting ready to go home and our manager told us we had to take our 15 min break. I said “we have been sitting in a car for the last hour, can’t that be our break?” Our manager said no, you still have to go take your break. I really just wanted to go home for the day, but we all went to the lounge and took break. I think it’s the employees own fault if they don’t take their breaks, but I guess everyone gets greedy and likes to sue WM. I think that’s why WM has become so anal about all of it’s policies because they are worried about more lawsuits. It’s sad to see all that money wasted on court cases when it could be invested in all the associates profit sharing instead.

18 Year Wal-Mart Associate in Iowa
Saturday, October 14 at 08:12 AM

I think we can see the trend here! Once a corporation starts letting greed dictate how they run a business, the dominoes will start falling! It’s just a matter of time. Here’s a little word of advice for Wal-Mart, “QUIT BREAKING THE LAW!!!”

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Saturday, October 14 at 08:51 AM

The right -wingers are always preaching “personal responsibility”, but obviously I guess that this same philosophy does not pertain to Wal-Mart. Apparantly, they think they can continue to thumb their nose at the law, and at their workers. This sounds like a party that can’t be trusted to me!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Saturday, October 14 at 09:04 AM

Why do people band together with Class Action lawsuits?  Answer: Because the lawyers know that the people would not win in individual trials.  There’s truth to the saying that there is ‘Power in Numbers’, so lawyers know that if they trot out a bunch of pathetic looking souls, in front of a sympathic jury, they are more likely to win.  Look back about 30 years and you will see, that there were almost NO class action suits, but, now, you see ads on the T.V. daily, trying to get people to suit for this or that.

18 Year Wal-Mart Associate, said it, “I think that’s why WM has become so anal about all of it’s policies because they are worried about more lawsuits. It’s sad to see all that money wasted on court cases when it could be invested in all the associates profit sharing instead.”.  Maybe if the employees stopped complaining, followed the rules more and helped advance Wal-Mart, instead of trying to tear it down, they could get more of what they want.  Remember, ‘You can catch a lot more flies with sugar, than with vinegar’.  Would You give ‘more’ to a bunch of ungrateful people?

And, Sandy Albertson, so, are you saying that the Democrats don’t have any ‘Bad Apples’?  Do you want a list of ‘fallen’ Dems?

Bob in
Saturday, October 14 at 10:21 AM

Thank God the employees won.

Maybe management, both corporate and local store,
will get the message that we employees are willing
to fight back, and that they can not always get
their way.

Rob in Surfside Beach, SC
Saturday, October 14 at 10:24 AM

You are right Rob. People are fighting back. Walmart doesn’t like it. If Walmart thinks that it is going to get away with the same behaviour it has during the past, then it needs to get new people running it.

Remember Jonquiere Quebec. Home of Walmart worker abuse.

Alex in Ontario, Canada
Saturday, October 14 at 10:55 AM

Bob - Why do people band together with Class Action lawsuits? The “real” answer: Because if employees file individually, Wal-Mart won’t learn a lesson, that’s the whole point! Why is there more lawsuits today, versus 30 years ago? Because there’s more warrant for lawsuits today than there was 30 years ago. Remember, that was the good ole’ days of a living wage and affordable health care! But now that all of that has gone and went to China, people have to defend for what little they have left! Or does Wal-Mart want that too??? Maybe if Wal-Mart would stop “breaking the law”, it would advance themselves! Where’s their “personal responsibility” at now???

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Saturday, October 14 at 11:03 AM

Just proves the point: Walmart breaks the law in Pennsylvania and they did in Quebec. The difference in Quebec is they found a loophole.

Walmart disrespects laws. They think they are above the law.
The people and the law will win in the end.

Alex in Ontario, Canada
Saturday, October 14 at 07:40 PM

Please don’t link all Republicans to Richard, Bob, and Mags.

There are many conservatives and Republicans who have compassion and believe to much power has been given to Corporations such as the Big W.  There are many who pulled the Republican lever that believe too much political power has been given to Corporations that can flex their judicial power via big money.  Focusing only on profit they ignore compassion for their workers, don’t care about the middle class because they are shipping the manufacturing jobs to China, and ignore the security of the U.S. as they pour American treasure and technology into China.

Hey Guys think I’m wrong watch the upcoming elections and see that slowly americans are wising up.

No Mags and Richard there is no legal “law” that corporations provide health insurance and benefits for it’s employees.

But there is a historic pattern of which Richard and Bob are familiar.  Every corporation in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s that was worth anything on the stock market provided health care for their employees.  I bet they basked in the benefits of their respective companies. 

But there is plenty of moral reasons relected from the Bible to todays politicians.  The theme of the good book is to help others including the poor.  Politically both left and right spout the view they want everyone to have health care within the reaches of employees.

Mags, Richard, and Bob you do a really good job representing Walmart but you don’t represent all in the conservative right.

As for me I am moving from the right back to the center of the political arena.  It smells better in the center.

Ole Tech

ole tech in
Saturday, October 14 at 08:20 PM

walmart sucks they end. I would never work for them. their theory is to hire younger workers and keep them for 2-3 years at the most.

blah in
Saturday, October 14 at 08:41 PM

POWER TO THE PEOPLE,

“Remember, that was the good ole’ days of a living wage and affordable health care! But now that all of that has gone and went to China,”

Yeah, I remember those good ole’ days, when I was making a ‘cool’ $3.30 an hour “living wage’ and health care was affordable, because they didn’t have all of the expensive equipment they do now nor did they have all of the huge, multi-million dollar lawsuits!! 

But, why has it gone to China now?  Is it because we have ‘cheap’ labor here?  Or, is it because we have ‘higher cost’ labor here?  With people making $20.00 to $30.00 an hour here, first, cheaper labor costs are sought and second, our products cost more both here in the states and overseas as well.  That is why outsourcing is happening, not that Wal-Mart doesn’t pay enough!!  When will you people figure this out?  Raising wages only makes the situation worst, not better.  Also, trying to stay out of the global market, would be a huge mistake, isolationism won’t cut it!!

Bob in
Saturday, October 14 at 10:10 PM

Ole Tech - As a “moderate” democrat, I could not agree with you more! Come on down to the middle where the grass is greener!!!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 12:23 AM

Bob - Why do I sense the same jealousy from you, that I felt from some of the other non-union workers at the foundry I used to work at? That fact that you decided not to use your non-union foundry position as a stepping stone all those years, is not my fault! Some of us that are “still working”, don’t mind manufacturing work, and wish to step up in the manufacturing field. It’s easy for you being retired, to say, oh well, f#ck manufacturing! Come on! Did you forget what paid your bills all those years regardless of whether your job was union or not? Were you screaming “take my job to China” back in 1974??? I thought not!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 12:34 AM

Don’t forget Bob, its not all about unions! Sure union workers suffer when jobs go to China, but also good hard working non union workers and business people loss their livelyhood when you support corporations that send jobs to China.

What is wrong with the logic of spending a little more for things made in this country where the union worker, non union worker or business man builds it here and that profit and labor expense is spent in local communities instead of a communist country.  Also taxes are collected which this country desperately needs.

There are workers over paid in union and non union jobs.  When the fog is cleared it all boils down to selfish people wanting cheap stuff no matter what type of effect it has on others in this country rather union or non union.

ole tech

ole tech in
Sunday, October 15 at 01:30 AM

I question anyone who supports Wal-Marts, loyalty and love for their country.  In my opinion Wal-Mart has done more for China than it will ever have done for America.

JM in USA
Sunday, October 15 at 08:58 AM

The North American Free Trade Agreement has had a negative impact on every single type of job in this country! The U.S. having a $700 billion dollar trade deficit, is the proof in the pudding. It’s effected union workers, non-union workers, blue collar workers, and degree holding white collar workers as well. Just one example of this is the Manual Transmissions plant right here in Muncie,IN. It shut down less than 6 months ago, eliminating 1,200 jobs, much needed taxes, and money that had been spent in the local community for the 50+ years of it’s exsistance. It doesn’t stop there. Along with the big guy on top, went all of the smaller local suppliers that depended on Manual Transmissions as their main customer. And of course, several hundred jobs were lost right there. It’s just like a dominoe effect, when the large manufacturer goes out, so do all of their suppliers. Not to mention, the loss in sales to all of the retail stores, convienant stores, and grocery stores as well. Keep in mind, this was the “Third” large manufacturer (1,200+employees each) to leave our community in the past 5 years alone!!! Frankly, I’m sick and tired of hearing people preach about how great the free trade agreement is, when jobs are dropping like flies all around them! As opposed to popular belief, not everyone in the free world is a CEO, top shareholder, or retired!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 10:11 AM

POWER TO THE PEOPLE & ole tech,

“It’s easy for you being retired, to say, oh well, f#ck manufacturing! Come on! Did you forget what paid your bills all those years regardless of whether your job was union or not?”

I’m not forgetting anything, you totally missed my point again.  Let’s review, okay?  First, Wal-Mart doesn’t manufacture things, they sell them and second, union or non-union, rising wages in the U.S., is the CAUSE of outsourcing (Jobs chasing cheaper labor), get it?  Raising wages will only cause MORE jobs to be outsourced!!

“Why do I sense the same jealousy from you, that I felt from some of the other non-union workers at the foundry I used to work at?”

What jealousy?  All I was stating, was that working at Wal-Mart, doesn’t even come close to hard work, when compared with a foundry.

“Just one example of this is the Manual Transmissions plant right here in Muncie,IN.”

See, this is what I mean, Wal-Mart neither manufactures nor does it sell transmissions, so Wal-Mart is NOT the problem, but, it could be part of the solution.  Keeping prices low, saves people money, saving people money, means they may not need raises, not getting raises keeps our country competitive, being competitive reduces outsourcing.

“It’s just like a dominoe effect, when the large manufacturer goes out, so do all of their suppliers.”

Wages have a domino effect as well, raise wages at the ‘bottom’ and wages go up across the board, all the way to the top.  Raise wages at every supplier and the finished product costs hundreds to thousands more, get it?

“What is wrong with the logic of spending a little more for things made in this country”

Nothing is wrong with it, but with cars, for example, that LITTLE, could be $4,000.00, that’s not LITTLE.  How does that $4,000.00 affect the guy at the ‘bottom’ of the wage scale?  And, if they are confronted with paying that much more, why wouldn’t it be to their advantage to buy the ‘cheaper’ foreign car?

Bob in
Sunday, October 15 at 10:52 AM

Bob - Rising wages in the U.S. is “not” the reason for outsourcing. Naturally, workers today are making more than they did in 1969, whether their union or not. This is a normal part of inflation, that has always occured, and always will. You can’t bring down American wages to that of China’s ($2/hr.)! That’s ridiculous! Hypothetically, if this were to happen, is my gas bill and mortgage payment going to go down as well? Are the salaries of top CEO’s going to go down? Is social security going to go down? And most importantly, is “your” pension going to go down? No, Wal-Mart has nothing to do with the manufacturing of transmissions. But they “do” have a whole lot to do with the manufacturing of just about everything else! You know; Retail, produce, gas, tires, prescriptions, lawnmowers, tools, eyeglasses, etc. And no, Wal-Mart doesn’t compare with foundry work. My point there is, Wal-Mart is no longer the “small fish in the big pond” like they still claim to be. They’re now playing in a much bigger arena, with alot more capital coming in. If manufacturing is going out, and jobs like Wal-Mart are coming in, then that’s just fine with me. Just as long as they pony up, and start doing their part other than just lining their pockets, and pretending to be the “defenders of the poor!” It’s insulting!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 11:53 AM

Bob - Let’s put your high American wage theory under the microscope for a second. Let’s just say for example, you got a garmet worker (Jane Doe) making $14 an hour. Then one day, her employer decides to up and relocate to China, because they cannot compete against $2 an hour in China. And let’s say, that all of the manufacturing jobs, period, within a 100 mile radius have followed suit. Now that all of these workers, including Jane Doe, have lost their once good paying jobs with affordable health insurance, their all now limited to just the $7 dollar an hour jobs, with insurance they cannot afford. Now “maybe” the retailed products (toliet paper) in their communities will go down in price, but their utility companies and their mortgage companies aren’t hearing that! Even if hypothetically, “everything” went down in price; the decline in their cost of living, is “not” going to match the $14 an hour these people once made! Regardless of the cost of living rate “or” the inflation rate, these people cannot live off of wages under $10 an hour! Hell, depending where you live, some people can’t live off of $15 an hour! Now that all of these people are at or below the poverty line, their going to “have” to shop at Wal-Mart, because their too poor to shop anywhere else, and all of Wal-Mart’s competition has done been ran out of town. All of this, just to get a cheaper roll of toilet paper! Bob, this is nothing short of being a disastrous theory! Sure, it’s a good game plan, (for China and Wal-Mart that is!!!)

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 12:51 PM

Mags - If it rained tomarrow, you would probably blame it on unions!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 01:03 PM

POWER TO THE PEOPLE,

I agree with all that you have said, really I do.  But, there is a thing called REALITY that we have to deal with here.  You may not like the NAFTA agreement, but, it’s REAL.  You may WISH that jobs weren’t outsourcing, but they ARE.  And, you may WANT retail to pay more, step up to the plate, as you call it, but, the fact is, that no matter how much you think they have, they can’t afford to raise prices and cause the job market to become more expensive to EVERYONE.  I know, you wish it was different, but it ISN"T, so we just have to live with it and work with it.  You keep focusing on Wal-Mart, because it’s ‘the biggest’, but, it those upper wage people that are causing the problems.  GM used to be the ‘biggest’ company in AMERICA, but, where are they now?  K-Mart used to be the ‘biggest’ retailer, but where are they now?  If you want to see Wal-Mart fail, that’s one thing, but, like it or not, people in this country have to be less greedy and keeping up with the Joneses.  Yes, things will go down in price, if we just stop using so much.  Turn off your lights, etc. and watch your bill go down.  Practice conservation and delayed gratification and watch how much farther your paycheck goes!!  Stop paying $1.00 for a bottle of water or $5.00 for a cup of coffee and see what a difference that makes.  Learn how to manage your money more wisely and it will be better than a raise (saved money is not taxed.

I used to think like you, but, I faced REALITY and took things into my own hands and came out a winner, you can too if you are willing to try, instead of just wishing things were different.

Bob in
Sunday, October 15 at 01:19 PM

I worked for walmart for a year unloading trucks. There was a period of about a month where we were told to work without a lunch to keep these trucks emptied through the hollidays.. We did it… and we did a hell of a good job at it… the only complaint was… our paychecks showed we clocked in and out for lunches and breaks… yet we did not… wierd huh

lazy in Oklahoma
Sunday, October 15 at 01:32 PM

See lazy, Walmart thinks its above the law. In Quebec the only difference is they found a loophole.

Canadian and all people should never forget what a low life company Walmart is.

Alex in Ontario, Canada
Sunday, October 15 at 01:41 PM

Oh yea… i also forgot this one....  its a good one… So yea about 2 years ago walmart was supposed to be forced to “re-vamp” thee pay structure”..  And rumors came about how the workers here were going to see a small pay raise happen..  well..  it did..  And for the majority of us we got a penny… The “customer service managers” on the other hand along with other management roles were to see a really good pay increase… So wal-mart’s answer to this was to demote everybody for a week and take away there titles until the set date was to occur..  And What do you know… the rumors were true and Wal-Mart did re-vamp there pay scale. So after a two week period of chaos due to pre-management employees not having there manager access walmart-decided to make things right again and Give back! the manager acces to all those very special wal-mart employees!.. Things got easier… What a joke…

lazy in
Sunday, October 15 at 01:44 PM

Exactly, delayed gratification.
That is what the third world country business owners have mastered.
If workers make 20 cents an hour, because greedy business is exploiting people in need, then the gratifications does not come to soon. What an excellent business model just like Walmart would say.

Remember Jonquiere Quebec.
Home of Walmart worker abuse.

Alex in Ontario, Canada
Sunday, October 15 at 01:45 PM

How about the time the pretty girl who stole sunglasses was in the security room crying becasue she wanted to steal some really good lookin sunglasses.... She was hot.. im not going to lie.. and i to was standing outside the door along with the crowd to see her in her nice little skirt… however she was escorted outside bt THE EXIT DOOR right next to security room and let go.. however.... a couple of months later.. a man got wresteled down to the floor… put in the security door.. and walked around wal-mart publicaly hummilated for stealing… a f***** can of food to feed his family…

lazy in oklahoma
Sunday, October 15 at 01:59 PM

Bob - I completly realize that jobs are being outsourced everywhere, and no, I’m not happy about it. And yes, the NAFTA agreement is very real. Like I’ve said before, if your ship was sinking, would you punch more holes in it? Well, President Bush has! Instead of coming to “REALITY” on this issue, not only has he made no attempt to correct the situation, he has in fact expanded the already flawed agreement! Instead of seeing a “CRISIS” before him, he sees only an illusion of progress!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Sunday, October 15 at 02:36 PM

Ole tech typed.

“What is wrong with the logic of spending a little more for things made in this country”

Bob responded.

Nothing is wrong with it, but with cars, for example, that LITTLE, could be $4,000.00, that’s not LITTLE.  How does that $4,000.00 affect the guy at the ‘bottom’ of the wage scale?  And, if they are confronted with paying that much more, why wouldn’t it be to their advantage to buy the ‘cheaper’ foreign car?

Power to the people...Did you notice how Bob flipped -----

Walmart does not sell cars.

Well not yet that is.

Does this mean then that since about 99% of the things Walmart sells is under $4000, Bob is acknowledging then that there really isn’t any reason to shop at the Big W.

Bob and Richard apparently haven’t been touched by the outsourcing yet or they just can’t see it.

All these products under $4000.00 that Bob mentioned which outsourced to China will not support middle class manufacturing jobs in America. 

Here are the negative effects of sending American jobs to China.  Can anyone deny Walmart is a leader in this outsourcing?

1.  More small business will shut down than will be able to compete again the goliath Walmart.

2.  Loss of manurfacturing jobs in the U.S. affects U.S. as follows.
a.  Workers who had jobs now do not pay taxes into the Government tax system or Social security.  Less money for our government and retirement system.The Tax payer picks up the tab.
b.  Loss of good jobs means loss of insurance.  Most good corporations provide good health insurance plans for it’s workers. Laid off workers who now get sick get health care complements of the Taxpayer.
c.  Workers and Business’s who profit from jobs and U.S. made products circulate money back into the U.S. democratic economy.  China manufactured products circulate that money back into a communist based country.

Result:  Bob and Richard get inexpensive products under $4000.00 off the backs of taxpayers, out of business companies, union workers, and white collar workers.
Big corporations who don’t care make lots of money.

ole tech

ole tech in
Sunday, October 15 at 06:30 PM

Richard and Bob like outsourced and China made products so well and want American workers to work at China and India labor rates. 

Wonder how they would like their retirements plans to match those of Chinese retired workers.

Seems like the same thing to me.

Ole tech

ole tech in
Sunday, October 15 at 06:40 PM

These associates were right in winning their lawsuit. Yes, Wal-Mart does have a system that will lock Cashiers out after 6 hours if they haven’t clocked out for a meal break. But what about all the other associates in the store that aren’t on a register? There’s nothing to lock them out if they haven’t take a lunch.

I know this because when I was working at Wal-Mart, I was a Dept. Manager before I quit. I was asked to work a 12 hour shift the day before Easter. I said it was fine since they were giving me Easter off.

So I started the day at 5am and left at 5pm. I didn’t even get a lunch break until 2pm. How is that fair? Then, when I was on my lunch, I was still having to answer pages for my department since there was no member of Management that would even help look over my department while I was on my lunch!

So even tho the cashiers are safe and MUST clock out before they can return to work, there are a lot of people that don’t have that luxury!!!

Nancy in Wisconsin
Sunday, October 15 at 07:08 PM

Another desperate bunch of Blowhard posts from Richard K. Don’t you ever learn? Funny we haven’t heard from Someone in USA on this one. Maybe he’s too busy stabbing his fellow workers in the back again. Of course we have the usual uninformed BS from Mags and Bob. They all should start a comedy team with their skewed logic and simpleton replies. Wal Mart stole from their workers and got punished. Now it’s time to pay for their dishonesty. Makes one wonder how honest these Wal Mart supporters are themselves when they defend the corporate thief that is Wal Mart.

Dick K in
Sunday, October 15 at 07:28 PM

Wal-Mart needs to fess up and take personal responsibility for their actions.

Generic Wal-Mart Wageslave in Michigan
Sunday, October 15 at 09:07 PM

ole tech,

“Walmart does not sell cars.”

Maybe you should read a little better, we were talking about business and the economy in general, not just Wal-Mart.  I was trying to show how high wages at the U.S. car makers, have, with the unions high wage demands over the years, now sell cars that are quite a bit higher than the foreign cars.  Who does this hurt the most, the poor, who can’t afford the higher priced U.S. car.

Let me ask you a few questions, okay?  First, how did we get in this position?  Remember, the Democrats controlled Congress for 40 years and most of these problems started back then.  What is now called ‘corporate welfare’, was started back in the 40’s.  If the unions were the driving force, of all that is good in this country for laborers, why are there so many ‘poor’ workers?  How come union membership has declined?  And, how come most unionized companies are going down the drain?

The problem here is, things were being done WRONG for so many years, it is hard to RIGHT them, the gap between poverty and middle class is too wide.  But, for you, it always was this way, so you think, what’s wrong with it?

But, like I told POWER, it’s your problem now, I’m covered.  You have to decide whether you want to continue to go down that same old road, and keep on going DOWN or get on another new road and see where that takes you.  Good Luck!!

Bob in
Sunday, October 15 at 09:52 PM

Someone,

“ IT made me open my eyes for a better lifestyle and now in a company i love and trust and im making just under three figures a year”

Do you believe this? Lazy says he is now happy, making just under THREE FIGURES A YEAR!!  I wonder if that is $999.00 or $999.50?  And, this person wanted to work in the pharmacy, I’d hate to see how they would have counted pills.

Bob, in
Sunday, October 15 at 10:16 PM

Dick K-

It’s good to see another intelligent poster full of contributions. Wait! That’s not what I see. It’s an ignorant poster who doesn’t know how to read and confuses personal attacks for legitimate arguments.

My comments on the Pennsylvania case can be found on my blog (which I link to in every post) or in the following Wal-Mart Watch thread:

http://walmartwatch.com/blog/archives/jury_finds_in_favor_of_workers_in_pennsylvania_lawsuit/#comments

It wouldn’t hurt you to look around before running your mouth.

Someone in USA
Sunday, October 15 at 10:17 PM

I did see that, Bob. I assumed it was an innocent mistake, but who can tell?

Someone in USA
Sunday, October 15 at 10:27 PM

With all of the above posts ::

Whose position was changed?  None

What constructive action was accomplished?? None

Now please go to the other threads and post essentially the same things for there is no need to stay on the topic.

Regardless I do with our Lord’s blessings on all of you and hope your eyes and minds are opened as to truth.  I have to do some more work on being sure some Wal-Mart employees get their justly due unemployment compensation.

knowledgeable in
Monday, October 16 at 12:09 AM

not that I am defending Wal-Mart, but I would like to point out that the “Bank of Wal-Mart” is not a regular bank. That’s why it wouldn’t have to go through the Federal Reserve. The bank is to back the Wal-Mart credit cards instead of going through a third-party. The “Bank of Wal-Mart” would NOT have checking accounts, saving accounts, etc. Just thought that the facts should be set straight instead of twisted to express your point of view.

James Melancon in Beaumont, TX
Monday, October 16 at 12:49 AM

“Yes folks...this is the message I received from the web administrators at WakeupWalmart.com: “The IP address that “Bob” uses has been banned from our web site.  Should he find another IP address, he will be banned again.”

ScrewedbyWal-Mart ????????

-Richard K

Richard K in
Monday, October 16 at 08:51 AM

Screwed-

Welcome back! Are you planning to stay? Perhaps you have something to say on the topic?

Someone in USA
Monday, October 16 at 05:52 PM

We need a Raise… we work like a slave but I only get $8.70 I do everyting ... all around… they depend on me… we need a raise

John in California
Monday, October 16 at 06:23 PM

I am working at Wal-Mart now and I cannot say I love it and I cannt say I hate it. It’s in the middle. THey have there faults and sometimes they’re reasons for it.. Employees take advantage. Walmart gives us two 15 min. break and 1 hoyr lunch. BUt that 15 min. break w/ pay sometimes they take it 30 min. sometimes 45 mins. I see it. Walmart is wrong when they don’t give employees they’re breaks on time but we have to understand. How many employess are there? and How many managers are there? Managers cannot keep track of all the employees especially on busy hours so we have to remind them. Put yourself in they’re shoes. Let’s see if you can keep up?

Rochelle in Las Vegas, NV
Monday, October 16 at 06:26 PM

Bob - The gap between poverty and the middle class is too wide??? How about the gap between poverty/middle class and the upper class? How much did your average U.S. household earn last year, compared to what Lee Scott earned last year? That’s where your “gap” lies. Most capital goes to the upper class, instead of being spread across the board. “Like I told Power, it’s your problem now, I’m covered.” This isn’t your problem? What are you going to do if your foundry decides to go belly up, because they can’t compete against $2 an hour in China? Where do you think your pension will go?

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Monday, October 16 at 06:28 PM

Bob - If they try to take your pension away, at least your union will be there to represent and fight for you guys in your time of need. Oh wait, you don’t have a union, nor do you support representation by a union. I guess you’ll just have to use the “open door policy” with your foundry, maybe that will work!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Monday, October 16 at 06:40 PM

POWER TO THE PEOPLE,

“How about the gap between poverty/middle class and the upper class?”

Tell me truthfully, what difference does the gap between upper class and middle class, have to do with anything?  Are you saying that all people should be in the upper class?  Most people can be either poor or middle class, so that’s what should be the concern here.

“Most capital goes to the upper class, instead of being spread across the board.”

That is where you have it all wrong.  The upper class invests their money, which creates jobs for middle class and poor people, they don’t have their money in some safe in their back room.  So, it is being spread across the board, but just not handed out, like charity.

“This isn’t your problem? What are you going to do if your foundry decides to go belly up, because they can’t compete against $2 an hour in China? Where do you think your pension will go?”

I don’t get a pension, none at all, not even the pension that I paid into, with the TEAMSTERS UNION, when I drove truck for 12 years.  My pension is made up totally of my 401K, where I put in 15% of my check for almost 12 years.  By the way, that is a good way to reduce your taxes, everybody should put in as much as they can and invest it in some good mutual funds in the plan.

“If they try to take your pension away, at least your union will be there to represent and fight for you guys in your time of need.”

I did have a pension, but, unfortunately, it was with the TEAMSTERS UNION, so it was the union itself, who took it away from me, what kind of protection is that?.

“ I guess you’ll just have to use the “open door policy” with your foundry, maybe that will work!”

By the way, I haven’t worked for that foundry for 17 years now.

Bob in
Monday, October 16 at 10:46 PM

Bob - What does the gap between the middle class and the upper class have to do with anything you ask? It has alot to do with everything. Just as the supporters of free trade have said that these agreements will disperse the wealth/jobs evenly, in which it has not! The wealth has landed in the pockets of the top 1%, (upper class). The upper class invests their money? Oh, I guess that would be the infamous “trickle-down effect.” Yes it trickles down all right, right into their pockets! As far as your pension was concerned, most professions, union or not, won’t offer a pension after only 12 years of service. Most have “30 and out”, or in the F.O.P.’s case, “20 and out.” Although my father worked for Dana Corp. for only 14 years, and my mother for only 22 years, they both still recieve a small pension for their time served. If you did not get what you put into your pension yourself, then that’s something that you may want to further investigate. There’s something not right there.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Tuesday, October 17 at 12:50 AM

POWER TO THE PEOPLE,

“The wealth has landed in the pockets of the top 1%,”

If you can’t understand the difference between 1% and 99%, I can’t get through to you.  Their wealth has little adverse affect on the economy, except that they are the INVESTORS and their money is WORKING in the economy.  Do you really think they care about LOW PRICES and how much the little guy makes?  Is cheating you out of a $1.00 really that important to them?  If you really believe that, you have a lot to learn about business.  Wealthy people have a lot better things to do with their time, than to sit around thinking up ways to screw their employees.  Class envy, is only an excuse for why a person can’t get ahead in life, but in reality, has absolutely no real effect on that person’s life, except to help provide them with a means of making a living.  Poor and most middle class people don’t create jobs, wealthy people do!!  Unless you go with the notion that because they buy things, they create the opportunity for wealthy people to start businesses.  But, that is the same arguement as the workers make the business grow.  Truth is, if the wealthy didn’t plow back their wealth into the business, the business wouldn’t grow at all.

Bob in
Tuesday, October 17 at 10:41 AM

Bob - In the case of comparing the top 1%, and the other 99%, isn’t you guys defense that the top 1% pays the majority of income taxes in the United States? According to the Republicans, there’s a “big” difference!  I guess the top 1% are the only ones in society who invest into the economy. Seeing that the other 99% don’t buy cars, homes, clothing, food, or buy stocks. Nope, what the other 99% invests isn’t working in the economy! It just couldn’t be!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! in Muncie,IN
Tuesday, October 17 at 06:32 PM

I’ve worked at Walmart for 6yrs now I always worked alone on the floor in the electronics dept. I remeber i almost went home with out a hour lunch locked out of my register (can’t get fired over that I’M BY MYSELF!). Work by myself one day like during bad weather. Never had a 15 min break. They don’t treat you right at all. Managers or District Manager don’t even care about you. All the District Manager says no carts in the dept which I say is stupid there’s carts everywhere. And still have low employees. Everytime I try to do some work in the Electronics Dept. I get a lOOONNGG LINE at the register and I need to help other people in the Electronis Dept. I’m Not A Cashier!!. I’m a Electronics Associate. I can never get off the register when someone need help in the dept.!!

Jude Fils-Aime in Waldorf, Maryland
Tuesday, October 17 at 09:50 PM

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