Latest Headlines
Chicago alderman pleads for a Wal-Mart -07.01.09 | [Chicago Tribune]
Wal-Mart Backs Drive to Make Companies Pay for Health Coverage -07.01.09 | [Wall Street Journal]
Key hearing set on Wal-Mart near Va battlefield -07.01.09 | [WMDT-TV (Va.)]
Fact Sheets
The Employee Free Choice Act Legislation that will truly make a difference for Wal-Mart workers
Wage & Hour Issues Read how Wal-Mart continually fails to pay every worker for every hour worked
Health Care Wal-Mart's still insures barely over half its employees on the company plan
Always Low Wages Poverty-level wages make life extremely difficult for Wal-Mart's 1.4 million workers
The Environment How Wal-Mart's business model is detrimental for our planet
Wal-Mart Pays Victim’s Medical Bills; 3 Years Later Demands Its Money Back
There are certain stories - importing potentially dangerous products, environmental concerns, failing to pay workers for overtime/breaks, state tax avoidance - that can make you loathe Wal-Mart, yet still explain away the company’s actions as those of an entity whose only focus is to expand on its own terms and lower its cost of doing business any way possible.
Then, there are stories that simply make you ask why, stories that make you wonder if Wal-Mart really cares about anyone at all, especially its workers. This, make no mistake, is one of those stories.
Pictured to the right is the Shank family - one shot is from before, and one after a truck plowed into the driver’s side of Deborah’s Shank’s minivan, resulting in neorological damage that left Mrs. Shank unable to feed or dress herself, and unable to converse with her family on anything more than a simple level.
Deborah Shank had finally qualified for Wal-Mart health benefits just three months before the accident, and following the collision, the health plan dutifully paid out Mrs. Shank’s medical expenses. And in 2002, Mrs. Shank won a settlement from the trucking company responsible for the accident - it didn’t cover all of her medical expenses, but it was a start. And now, Wal-Mart wants its share. Or more to the point, Wal-Mart wants all of the settlement money, Mrs. Shank be damned. Three years after winning her award, Mrs. Shank was sued by an uncompromising Wal-Mart in an all-or-nothing attempt to recoup every cent of medical expenses the company paid for her health care. Yes, thats right - after collecting premiums, Wal-Mart decided it wanted more:
“It’s especially in the catastrophic cases that people are almost never fully compensated,” says Roger Baron, a professor of law at the University of South Dakota and a specialist in health-plan law. “And then their health plan, that’s been collecting premiums from them all this time, wants to take it away?”
It seems that Wal-Mart, seeking praise for so many of its innovations, has also been innovative in the health care field in a way that other health plans are just now beginning to adopt.
Health plans are increasingly adopting language such as Wal-Mart’s, which dictates that it is to be paid first out of any settlement, regardless of what remains for the injured person. Moreover, the victim is responsible for all legal costs in pursuing the suit.
The piece from The Wall Street Journal is rather long, but I recommend reading every word. Undoubtedly, people will bring up the “every company does it” defense, as if magically that makes everything ok. Try selling that to the Shank family, whose money for medical expenses has been stripped away by a multi-billion dollar...repeat, BILLION dollar...company which really, lets face it, doesn’t need it. A simple case-by-case basis investigation would show that there is no scam to uncover with the Shank family. They are simply a family trying to deal with a catastrophic, life-altering event. And now trying to do so with an empty wallet.
Congratulations Wal-Mart. You’ve outdone yourself this time.
Accident victims face grab for legal winnings [The Wall Street Journal]
JACKSON, Mo.—A collision with a semi-trailer truck seven years ago left 52-year-old Deborah Shank permanently brain-damaged and in a wheelchair. Her husband, Jim, and three sons found a small source of solace: a $700,000 accident settlement from the trucking company involved. After legal fees and other expenses, the remaining $417,000 was put in a special trust. It was to be used for Mrs. Shank’s care.
Instead, all of it is now slated to go to Mrs. Shank’s former employer, Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
Two years ago, the retail giant’s health plan sued the Shanks for the $470,000 it had spent on her medical care. A federal judge ruled last year in Wal-Mart’s favor, backed by an appeals-court decision in August. Now, her family has to rely on Medicaid and Mrs. Shank’s social-security payments to keep up her round-the-clock care.
“I don’t understand why they need to do this,” says Mr. Shank on a recent visit to the nursing home, between shifts as a maintenance worker and running a tanning salon. “This girl needs the money more than they do.” Mrs. Shank, who needs help with eating and other basic tasks, spends more time alone since Mr. Shank had to let her private caregiver go. At some point, he says, she may have to be moved from a private to a semi-private room in the nursing home where she lives.
The reason is a clause in Wal-Mart’s health plan that Mrs. Shank didn’t notice when she started stocking shelves at a nearby store eight years ago. Like most company health plans, Wal-Mart’s reserves the right to recoup the medical expenses it paid for someone’s treatment if the person also collects damages in an injury suit.
Until recently, many employers didn’t vigilantly enforce the provision, and some states and federal courts didn’t think the claim held water. But as the cost of covering workers continues to escalate, employers and health plans are getting more aggressive about going after the money. A Supreme Court ruling last year also has given them a clearer legal map to suing employees and winning.
In insurance circles, the recovery practice is called “subrogation.” Employers and insurers say it’s necessary to ensure that medical expenses aren’t paid twice. By recovering those costs from someone who’s been compensated elsewhere, they argue, they’re saving money for everyone on the plan.
Sharon Weber, a spokeswoman for Wal-Mart, declined to discuss the details of the Shanks’ case, but said the company was obliged to act in the interest of the health benefits of its employees as a whole. “While the case involves a tragic situation, our responsibility is to follow the provisions of the [company health] plan which governs the health benefits of our associates,” she said.
“Employers are trying to make sure these plans run as efficiently as possible,” says Jay Kirschbaum, a senior vice president at global insurance broker Willis Group Holdings. “They also have a fiduciary duty to the plan and the entire group of employees that are covered by it.”
The Recovery Practice
Already, the recovery practice is one of the variables that plaintiffs lawyers are considering as they decide whether it’s in their clients’ interests to participate in the $5 billion offered by Merck & Co. to settle lawsuits over its painkiller Vioxx. Health plans recovered sizable amounts for medical expenses from other big product-liability settlements, such as for the “fen-phen” diet-drug combination and Sulzer Orthopedics’ hip implants. Many insurers and the employer plans they administer are expected to pursue a piece of the Vioxx settlement.
In cases like the Shanks’, where injuries and medical costs are catastrophic, accident victims sometimes can be left with little or none of the money they fought for in court. Health plans are increasingly adopting language such as Wal-Mart’s, which dictates that it is to be paid first out of any settlement, regardless of what remains for the injured person. Moreover, the victim is responsible for all legal costs in pursuing the suit.
“It’s especially in the catastrophic cases that people are almost never fully compensated,” says Roger Baron, a professor of law at the University of South Dakota and a specialist in health-plan law. “And then their health plan, that’s been collecting premiums from them all this time, wants to take it away?”
Tempting Savings
Such recoveries represent a tempting savings for insurers, employers and union-administered plans. The American Benefits Council and America’s Health Insurance Plans, the health-insurer lobby, estimate health plans recoup some $1 billion a year in medical claims from accident settlements and other third parties. A cottage industry of auditing firms, benefit-recovery specialists and subrogation lawyers help them. They estimate that between 1% and 3% of health-care spending is potentially recoverable from such claims.
“In the past, employers used to think of this as an afterthought,” says Tom Lawrence, chief executive of Memphis-based Benefit Recovery Inc., whose clients include Southwest Airlines Co. and hospital chain HCA Inc. HCA says it saw annual savings from recouped claims rise to $1.8 million in 2006 from just under $800,000 in 2000 after hiring the firm.
Benefit Recovery contracts directly with employers. It says it’s able to recover between $12 and $15 per health-plan member a year—up to $1.5 million for a big plan with 100,000 members—by recovering medical expenses from injury-suit settlements.
Until recently, employers and insurers generally didn’t go after small claims. But more-sophisticated claims tracking has made it easier. Recovery companies systematically search claims for certain medical codes—say, a sprained ankle or head trauma—that flag a potential accident. Claims examiners then mail a questionnaire and often follow up with calls. If the injured person confirms it was an accident, the firm tracks whether the patient files an injury suit.
If there is a lawsuit settlement, employers may seek to recoup money they paid for medical expenses. In many cases, it’s relatively cut and dried: Often medical expenses are just a portion of the overall damages award, or the accident victim’s attorney reaches a compromise with the health plan ahead of any settlement.
Some plans are taking a further step, refusing to pay claims in the first place, unless the person filing the claim signs an additional form promising to reimburse the plan from settlement proceeds.
Don Burgett, an engineer on an offshore oil-drilling ship, from Texas, has been waiting for his health plan to pay $89,000 in medical claims since his daughter’s accident two years ago. Magan Burgett, then 18, was thrown from the back of an all-terrain vehicle in October 2005, tearing her liver, breaking her jaw and fracturing her back.
Soon after Magan’s parents submitted the bills for her two-week stay in an intensive-care unit, her father’s health plan—the Maryland-based MEBA Medical and Benefits Plan—mailed him a reimbursement agreement that restated the plan’s rights to a potential settlement.
“To consider claims related to your accident,” it said, Mr. Burgett had to sign it first. When he didn’t, MEBA stopped paying claims after reimbursing several hundred dollars in Magan’s medical expenses.
Neal Korval, MEBA’s outside counsel, says that asking a plan member to sign a reimbursement agreement in such cases is standard procedure and a policy outlined in its health plan rules. It helps prevent accident victims and their attorneys from trying to “freeze out” the plan from a potential settlement, he says, and also reminds or advises the plan member of his or her obligations.
In September, the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas sided with the Burgetts, ruling that MEBA’s health plan summary, which it considered the prevailing document, didn’t stipulate such conditions to pay a claim. The Burgetts’ attorney says they secured a $75,000 accident settlement—a net of $50,000 after legal expenses—though that isn’t enough to cover Magan’s medical expenses. Mr. Korval says MEBA has recently reached a settlement with the family over the unpaid medical claims, but declined to disclose terms.
How much power health plans have to enforce subrogation is based on a hodgepodge of federal and state law still being tackled in the courts. A pivotal Supreme Court ruling last year gave health plans a leg up. In that case, a Maryland couple, Joel and Marlene Sereboff, were injured in an accident while returning a rental car to an airport in 2000; they required $75,000 in medical care. The couple later received a settlement of $750,000, from various parties, related to the accident.
Mid Atlantic Medical Services, now owned by UnitedHealth Group Inc., administered the health plan of Mrs. Sereboff’s employer and sued the couple when they refused to pay the company out of their settlement.
Money Set Aside
In a unanimous decision, the court upheld that Mid Atlantic had the right to enforce its claim, in large part because it could point to the settlement money set aside in an easily identifiable fund. The couple had placed the money in a separate account when the issue went to court. The decision has made it easier for plans to go after settlements, legal experts say.
Few such cases have attracted as much attention in legal circles as the Shanks’. Mrs. Shank took a job in 1999 stocking shelves at a Wal-Mart store in Cape Girardieu, Mo. She jumped at the shift from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m. so that she could spend days at home with her three sons, Mr. Shank says. After a probation period, she qualified for benefits under the Wal-Mart health plan in February 2000.
One day about three months later, as she and a girlfriend were touring local yard sales, a semi-trailer truck plowed into the driver’s side of her minivan. Her friend’s injuries were minor, but Mrs. Shank suffered major brain trauma and spent the next several weeks in intensive care. She drifted in and out of a coma, and the hospital, for months.
“One doctor didn’t give her any chance,” says Mr. Shank, a maintenance worker at Southeast Missouri State University. Her medical bills climbed past $460,000. The health plan paid them promptly. “They were terrific in that respect,” he says.
It also sent Mr. Shank several notices that he was to inform Wal-Mart’s health plan before he settled any suit. In 2002, the Shanks did sue and won a settlement from G.E.M. Transportation Inc., owner of the truck. The firm had only $1 million in liability coverage, though. For his own losses, Mr. Shank received $200,000, of which $119,000 remained after legal expenses. He says he spent most of it toward a one-story house fitted with ramps and wider doors, which is more accessible than the family’s previous three-level home.
Mrs. Shank’s own settlement was $700,000. After legal expenses and attorney fees, the remaining $417,477 was placed in a court-created special trust designed specifically for Mrs. Shank’s future care. The Shanks’ lawyer, Maurice Graham, wrote the Wal-Mart health plan informing them. Mrs. Shank had received no funds directly, he said, and therefore had nothing to pay Wal-Mart back.
Nearly three years went by, Mr. Shank says, before they heard again from Wal-Mart. Mrs. Shank struggled a year rotating in and out of the hospital and rehabilitation programs. She could no longer use her right arm or three fingers on her left hand because of neurological damage. She couldn’t feed or dress herself and conversations with her family were limited to all but simple questions. Eventually, her husband moved her to a nursing home for around-the-clock care. Medicare and Medicaid pay for the nursing home. Mr. Shank used some of the trust’s proceeds to continue paying a private aide to care for her there.
‘A Decent Quality of Life’
“We wanted her to have a decent quality of life, and we still had the money,” he says. He hoped he could also use it to pay the roughly $130,000 in bills for Mrs. Shank’s rehabilitation and a return hospital visit after her coverage expired.
But in August 2005, Wal-Mart re-emerged with a lawsuit against the Shanks demanding repayment for $469,216 in medical costs out of their settlement. It charged that the Shanks had violated the terms of the health plan by not reimbursing it. The company also demanded payment of legal fees and interest for the cost of suing the Shanks for the money.
Mr. Graham, the Shanks’ attorney, says he approached Wal-Mart’s attorneys about negotiating a compromise, but was told the health plan wanted to proceed with the lawsuit. “We’re not contending that Wal-Mart isn’t entitled to a payment. We’re saying they’re entitled to one based on equity,” he says. Since Mrs. Shank wasn’t fully compensated for her damages in the first place, he argues, Wal-Mart should also expect only partial reimbursement.
Administrators of employer-financed health plans “have an obligation to participants to be impartial,” the Wal-Mart spokeswoman says. “Virtually all health plans include subrogation provisions as a way to control health plan costs.”
In August last year, U.S. district judge Lewis Blanton sided with Wal-Mart, ruling that when Mrs. Shank signed on to Wal-Mart’s health plan she was obligated to abide by its terms.
The ruling came six days before the Shanks’ 18-year-old son, Jeremy, was killed in September last year in Iraq shortly after he arrived in the U.S. Army’s 25th Infantry Division.
“I wanted to give up at that point, tell Wal-Mart they won,” Mr. Shank says, but his lawyer, Mr. Graham, said he’d continue with appeals.
Mrs. Shank went to Jeremy’s funeral. But because of memory problems due to her injuries, she gets confused about what happened. On a recent morning, she cried several times and asked what had happened to her middle son. Mr. Shank says that he obtained a divorce from Mrs. Shank this year, partly because of advice from a health-care administrator that she might be more eligible for public aid as a single woman. Mrs. Shank, who has been declared incompetent by a court, hasn’t been informed of the divorce by her family.
The Shanks lost an appeal before a three-judge panel in the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in August and last month were denied a request for a hearing before the entire court. They plan to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, though only a small percentage of cases are chosen to be heard.
“Sometimes I want to tell Wal-Mart, ‘Ok, you won on the principle. But just let us keep the money,” Mr. Shank says.
Write to Vanessa Fuhrmans at
Posted by Corey Himrod on Tuesday, November 20, 2007
Click Here for a Printer-Friendly Version
SEARCH WAL-MART WATCH
Most Popular Tags
battlefield benefits brookins chicago city council competition competitors daily clips debate development doctor employees expansion government health care healthcare hearing influence insurance jobs mandate new politics residents senate target wall street journal wildernessMAKE A DIFFERENCE
Top Posts
- Happy 4th of July, From Your Friends at Wal-Mart Watch
- Today’s Final Word on Health Care
- Wall Street Journal Takes Wal-Mart to the Woodshed
- Wal-Mart: Sticks and Stones May Break Our Bones, But Health Care Could Kill Our Rivals
- Ald. Brookins Won’t Give Up on Second Wal-Mart Store, Ups Pressure on City Council
- Final Hearing Date Set in Wilderness Standoff
- Wal-Mart Watch Daily Clips- July 1st 2009
- Wal-Mart, U.S. Chamber Oppose Labor Rules in Pakistan and Afghanistan
- Workers Speak Out: Despite Calls for Reform, Wal-Mart Still Shortchanging Workers on Health Care
- Wal-Mart Says: ‘Hasta La Vista’ Union Supporters
Archive
Subscribe to this blog
Subscribe to the Wal-Mart Watch RSS Feed
View Wal-Mart Watch's videos on YouTube
Contact Us
Have a tip? Contact us.
COMMENTS
Im actually familiar with this case, I know someone that is involved with it. She was covered by Wal-Mart to cover her care until the trucking company responsible paid following the lawsuit. Her husband was aware of this, so was her attorney. Wal-Mart is not wrong in this case. Any other corp would do the same thing.
Big T in Rogers
Tuesday, November 20 at 04:23 PM
“every company does it” defense, as if magically that makes everything ok.
It sure didn’t take long for this to happen!
Big T, Why don’t you crawl back under your master’s rock? You can recognize it by the “MADE IN CHINA” label.
Big D in
Tuesday, November 20 at 05:25 PM
What did Wal-Mart do wrong in this case? Were they responsible or was the trucking company? It amazes me that this happens and everyone attacks the biggest player in the game. You are ignorant if you think Wal-Mart owes these folks money. The husband knew the money was only to pay for expenses until he collected the settlement. So he buyes a new house with it....
Big T in Rogers
Tuesday, November 20 at 05:37 PM
Problem with walmart
LEE SCOTT PRES + CEO WALMART
P.O. BOX 116
BENTONVILLE,AR 72712-9956
Send your problem to them . Be sure to include MANAGERS NAME - STORE #.
1. Send a BLACK PIECE of paper to represent COAL.
2. Tell them how you feel about their Bonus system.
3. Other problems be sure to get names, by their own rules they have to respond if you give a valid return add,phone ,email,
4. Every unresolved problem cames out of their bonus.
JOE in
Tuesday, November 20 at 05:39 PM
JOE in: Happy Thanksgiving to you ,JOE, and sincerest wishes to your family,too!
ddrb in
Tuesday, November 20 at 05:54 PM
Wal-Mart cares about one thing...$$$$$$$$. I worked for them for 8 years and then they screwed me over because I got arthritis in my back. They don’t care about the employees or the consumers but they can do whatever they want because people will still shop there. There’s strength in numbers and if the consumers would all shop elsewhere things would change.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in Salem Indiana
Tuesday, November 20 at 08:34 PM
Sick of WalMart : Thank you for saying what I have been saying-QUIT FEEDING THE BEAST!!! You only strengthen and fatten up the tyrant-PLEASE SHOPPERS,GO INTO RETAIL REHAB THIS BLACK FRIDAY-LET’S SEE” RED” ,INSTEAD !!!
ddrb in
Tuesday, November 20 at 08:40 PM
Im not familar with this case but I do know at the store I work at some of the people who were hurt in a accident had to pay back their medical expenses even though they had Walmart insurance. One of the ladies in the office had a head on collision and Walmart paid her medical expenses but when the other insurance went to settle her attorney had to reimburse Walmart for the medical expenses. One of the people greeters fell in front of a restaurant because there were no yellow lines warning of a step and she too had to reimburse Walmart for any medical expenses they paid out.
kathleen in
Tuesday, November 20 at 08:57 PM
remind me again how good walmart is for america. This sort of crap would never happen in Canada
Mike the Canuck in
Tuesday, November 20 at 10:17 PM
Wal-Mart is not good at all for America but people will absolutely not quit shopping there because they think they can save some money. As far as I’m concerned K-Mart and Target are much better and even cheaper on some things. Wal-Mart does not care people, you need to see the light show this crooked conglomerate we mean business.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 20 at 11:23 PM
kathleen - “One of the ladies in the office had a head on collision and Walmart paid her medical expenses but when the other insurance went to settle her attorney had to reimburse Walmart for the medical expenses.”
This happens, because if the original insurance was not reimbursed, the people would be PAID TWICE, for the same expenses. If this became the standard, think about how much that would cause insurance rates to rise.
jerry in
Tuesday, November 20 at 11:28 PM
Jerry in : That may or not be so,depending upon primary status, and secondary policies,where applicable,and coordinating coverage.
ddrb in
Tuesday, November 20 at 11:37 PM
Naturally I don’t know all of the facts, however several errors were made here. First the lawyer for the Shanks should have been aware of this and made sure the settlement compensatedfor same. Yes the max insurance of one million played into it.
How much did the attorney make—probably $200,000 after expeneses, yet he was par tof the problem.
Big T you are wrong in completely backing WM on this as a fair settlement could have been made. Also did you not read that a portion of the overall settlement was to Mr. Shanks, and not part of her settlement. I see nothing wrong in him buying a begger house to care for his wife. At least from what I read he did not go “boozing"it up with his share. You are pathetic Big T.
Personally I blame the lawyer for all of this problem, he should have had an agreement with WM’s insurer before he filed the lawsuit against the trucking company. Why can’t he go back and sue WM’s insurer for long term care, etc. I could have done a better job than him, of course I am basing this on only what I had read.
If the insurance company continues to pursue for WM, I do believe this should be vastly publicized.
The Sage in
Tuesday, November 20 at 11:45 PM
I’m curious whether the settlement was to ensure the woman received proper care in the future or if it was to reimburse medical expenses already incurred from her accident.
If it was to reimburse the family for medical bills I can see
(in a heart-of-stone kind of way) Wal-Mart’s view that it should be reimbursed since it was Wal-mart that paid the bills and not the family. If that’s the case though it should have been Wal-Mart suing the company and paying the legal fees.
If the money was to ensure the woman’s quality of life in the future by covering things that insurance wouldn’t then I don’t think they should get a dime.
Of course I also think that anyone who works for Wal-Mart above the level of store manager should contract elephantiasis. But that’s just me.
fightin' J in Minnesota
Wednesday, November 21 at 12:03 AM
fightin’J: I wonder just how many folks are going to think about(or even know about ) this story when those WalMart commercials are bombardinfgTV viewers this week, extolling the virtues of how “so many associates” are now being covered by W/M health insurance?? This is ghoulish-is this (subrogation) the vampire “sucksessor” to the dead janitors’ policies??
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 21 at 12:36 AM
OMG you guys must be crazy if you think this money is not owed back to Walmart Health Insurance. Health insurance steps in to cover expenses not covered by the accident insurance. If there was no accident insurance then absolutely Walmart Health would be 100% the only insurance. since they would be primary. BUT if the auto insurance (who should be primary) pays then Walmart Health is secondary and thus not liable. This standard industry practice people!
You anti-Walmart guys need to find another story because this one’s a joke. I agree with The Sage on one point… I think the couple’s lawyer really screwed them by not settling for an amount that would cover their reimbursement as well as their pain and suffering. But hey… the lawyer made out like a bandit didn’t he/she… and they wern’t the ones physically hurt!
mary in
Wednesday, November 21 at 06:25 AM
k-mart is not better it sucks i worked there.target sucks on their prices.sick of walmart keep on shopping at target and k-mart and paying more there for the same products from china and bangladesh that walmart sells/paying more elsewhere the products dont last any longer.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Wednesday, November 21 at 06:26 AM
I understand the attitude toward Walmart, however the recovery of medical expenses paid by a health plan when a settlement is involved is covered in the policy agreement. I recently was involved in an accident and had medical treatment for which my health care plan paid. When I received my settlement I had to repay the medical expenses that the plan paid. This was very plainly laid out in my policy agreement. This is not Walmart’s fault, just as it was not the fault of the company I work for. It is not even the insurance industries fault; it is our fault for letting ourselves be bullied by corporate America. Take a stand, write letters, participate in websites like this one, just get involved and stop thinking someone else will speak out on your behalf.
Phil in Indianapolis IN
Wednesday, November 21 at 10:10 AM
Phil in :Thank you for your comment,Phil,especially the part about being bullied by corporate America and the necessity to “talk back to power”...insurance firms were absolutely unconscionable regarding claims made from Hurricane Rita and Katrina-although most of those were claims re:homeowners,and not P.I. cases(Personal injury). Fortunatley, Dickie Scruggs of Misssissippi set some of the companies’ noses “straight” for them!
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 21 at 10:49 AM
You can say what you want about this case, but how about looking at it this way: wouldn’t it just BE THE RIGHT THING to let the Shanks keep this money? Mrs Shank is PERMANENTY DISABLED! We are talking about a HUGE corporation who can well aford to let these people keep the money. But Wal-Mart STOPPED doing the right thing a long time ago.
I’m sorry, but this case just proves to me and probably dozens of others JUST HOW CHEAP WAL-MART IS. They are a company that makes billions in sales, and can well afford to part with this money. Lets not talk legal stuff here folks, lets talk about what is the right thing to do. And since when did doing the right thing become such a crime?
Jane in N.Y. in
Wednesday, November 21 at 11:48 AM
Since I don’t know all of the particulars in this case, allow me to say a couple more things.
I firmly believe the Shanks lawyer orginally screwed things up and perhaps he is now handling all of this “pro bono” and he should.
Yes WM is legally correct in the suit to recover. Now consider this—WM is doing what they probably have to, however in the final settlement, I believe they will make a minor settlement (maybe nothing) as they would not want all the bad publicity.
WM at this time cannot so state as it could hurt their cause. I have a lot of issues with WM but I honestly believe it will end up similar to what I have stated.
From another perspective, WMW has reported the truth to a point, but it is always slanted. Another perspective such as I have written is never stated. We will see in a few months.
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 21 at 12:03 PM
Jane hit the the nail on the head....THIS WOMAN IS PERMANENTLY DISABLED. This is not something that one settlement is going to take care. The lady will incur medical expenses for the rest of her life that will probably end up in the millions of dollars. She worked for Wal-Mart and they care absolutely nothing about her or they would do the right thing as Jane stated. Matthew I worked for Wal-Mart for 8 years and I know how they are. They will cut corners to make an extra buck but the problem is that they don’t care which corners they cut. Wheres all the bad publicity for Target & K-Mart? Oh there isn’t any because they are much better companies than Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart could be taken down a notch or 2 if not for all you Wal-Mart groupies that think of the place as Heaven on Earth. Wal-Mart would love to be God people but they are not so stop treating them like they are. Theres many horror stories about Wal-Mart and I’d be willing to bet that most of them are true. Like I said, I worked for them for 8 years and I witnessed alot of things including racism, sexual harrassment, neglect for safety and complete disrespect for the employees just to name a few. I will keep shopping at Target and K-Mart and you go ahead and keep worshiping Wal-Mart, maybe someday you will see the truth.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 21 at 01:49 PM
Another thing I’d like to add is something that Wal-Mart did to a friend of mine. He owns a business where he makes hats and jackets of about anything you can imagine. Wal-Mart contracted him to make 1000 jackets for the employees which my friend gladly accepted the offer because he had done quite alot of business with Wal-Mart already. Well he finished the jackets and Wal-Mart sent a truck to pick them all up, everything was going great and then what do you know, the saintly Wal-Mart drops a bomb on my buddy. Two weeks later the truck rolls back up to his business and drops the jackets back off saying they had the jackets made in Mexico for less money. Well of course my buddy went ballistic because he designed everything about this jacket including the jacket. He told the Wal-Mart rep that it was his design and they stole it. Well what do you think Wal-Marts response was? “THATS WHAT OUR LAWYERS ARE FOR” exact words. Now my buddy took a gigantic loss on this deal because Wal-Mart went to MEXICO to copy his products. I’m sure all you Wal-Mart groupies will come up with some justification for this but it will be nothing but crap because theres nothing you can say that will make this right. They screwed over a very nice Christian man here who owns a little small town business and they didn’t care at all what they done. Ok groupies lets here the lame excuses to back Wal-Mart on yet another sadistic act.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 21 at 02:04 PM
You people are too much.
Jane… Walmart… “do the right thing”. If Walmart strayed from policy, policy that is INDUSTRY STANDARD, what happens when the next person has the same issue? Do you people understand what that would do to your already high health insurance costs? Give me a break from your bleeding yet clueless heart. I absolutely agree that this women should have been taken care of in the settlement, but take that up with her attorney who screwed her royally. Talk about a malpractice suit!!
Sick of.. as for your “friend”.... did he have a contract with Walmart? Did Walmart violate the contract? This is Business 101 folks. Either your friend was dumb or your story is like swiss cheese full of holes.
mary in
Wednesday, November 21 at 02:55 PM
Well I knew one of the groupies would come up with something stupid. I really don’t appreciate being called a liar because this story is true so I don’t really care what you think. Wal-Mart is whats full of holes, you all are just too blind to see it and too stupid to care. For your information there was a contract which is why I said Wal-Mart “CONTRACTED” him. So I guess Business 101 for Wal-Mart is to screw over good honest people, go figure. My friend is far from being dumb, he has owned this business for 30 years and like I said, he has done lots of business with Wal-Mart before. Now the other business deals went well untill Wal-Mart decided to screw him over by copying his designs in Mexico. Wal-Mart had exact duplicates made and thats dirty any way you look at it. Go ahead and defend them, they would screw any one of us over in a heartbeat to benefit themselves.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 21 at 03:18 PM
Well then there you have it Sick of… if your friend had a contract with Walmart then this is an easy issue to solve. Just have him contact a lawyer because this should be an open and shut case. There’s no need to defend Walmart. If they were in the wrong and violated the agreement then go ahead a sue the b@$$tard’s. And I’d say the same thing if it was Costco, Target, KMart, Sears, etc. Again… it’s Business 101.
mary in
Wednesday, November 21 at 03:45 PM
btw, the moral of the story is in Business 101 NEVER EVER TRUST ANNNYYYOOONNNE, that’s why contracts were created.
mary in
Wednesday, November 21 at 03:47 PM
The real moral of this story is the deceptive and fraudulent behavior of WalMart on insurance polices just like the “Dead peasant” COLI’s (Company Owned Life Insurance) that WalMart collected on their ‘associate’ janitors even when they no longer worked for WalMart. Wage slaves where WalMart had no insurable interest but collected on these people and the familes got nothing.
WalMart- We are a psychopath business that screws people for money anyway we can get it. That’s our Business 101 attitude against Americans. Socially responsible and accountable? That is not in our Bentonville business and you and the Shanks can all just go to hell.
SanDiegoView in WalMart- the Hannibal Lecter of retail
Wednesday, November 21 at 05:40 PM
No,the Attorney did not screwed up,you can not sue for Medical Expense that have already been paid,WalMart can not sue the Trucking Company for the Medical Bills for her,but they can sue her.
Yes, Insurance Companies can sue you,but they have the option to are not some one in HQ did not use there brain.
Did you read were he had to Divorce her she can get Mediciad,again some one on the Federal Welfare program because of Wal-Mart,
Te amount she got was on the time of she has left,which some one with this injury is 10 years the 430,000 would have taken care of her.
This was a bad call for Wal-Mart this should have just gone on by, I also wonder how much in billable hours the Attorney’s cost,but wait Wal-Mart now capping there hourly rate.
I can just hear some of you WalMart does not have to etc. but there is some thing called Human compassion that is a word Wally Worl does not know and some there
WallStreet in
Wednesday, November 21 at 05:48 PM
You truly missed the point WallStreet. Did the plaintifs and lawyers NOT KNOW that that they would be obligated to repay their health care insurer in the event of a settlement? If they did know did they not account for those monies in their suit? Your statement of “you can not sue for medical expenses that have already been paid” is FALSE!
It’s this simple. If the plaintif did not have health insurance they would owe a debt to their medical providers. At the time of the suit you sue to recover all medical expenses in addition to “pain and suffering” and any additional future medical expenses. If you win the suit, which should be an easy task, you would then take part of the proceeds from the settlement, the monies earmarked to pay for medical expenses, and pay your providers who are waiting for their reimbursement. The only benefit that health insurance provides is that they act on your behalf and “pre-forward” monies for your expenses, AS REQUIRED BY LAW. All you are doing is reimbursing the health insurance provider for the monies they paid. This not that hard to understand.
YES, the attorney screwed up in a major way by either not accounting for those reimbursements and by not suing for the proper amount.
mary in
Wednesday, November 21 at 06:15 PM
Why in the hell would my friend even try to sue Wal-Mart? Do you know what the chances would be of him actually beating Wal-Mart in a court of law? Wal-Mart has too many lawyers and too much money for a small business owner to even think about taking them to court. Even if he had a chance of winning, Wal-Marts lawyers would drag it through the system for so long it would eventually get dropped because of the statute of limitations. If Wal-Mart can’t be trusted as a good American corporation then people should stop shopping there. Consumers made this giant retailer and consumers could break them as well because theres strength in numbers but for some reason people won’t stop shopping there. If all you Wal-Mart enthusiasts shopt there just to save a few dollars then you might as well sell your soul to the devil. Wal-Mart is trying to take over everything from retail to gas stations to banks and they are destroying alot of people and small businesses along the way. Do they care? Hell no they don’t care. When Sam Walton was alive I think Wal-Mart was a better place but now, they have no human compassion for anyone except the big shots within the company. Open your eyes people my God its in plain sight for everyone to see and I just can’t understand why so many thousands of people are blind to it.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 21 at 06:49 PM
Does anyone not see the fact that it was not a walmart truck that hit Mrs. Shanks, but, rather G.E.M. Transportation Inc., owner of the truck. That makes G.E.M. Transportation Inc., and their insurance company liable for the damages.
wallstreet - “you can not sue for Medical Expense that have already been paid”
This is false, it’s called ‘subregation’, where the liable party reimburses the non-liable party who paid the bills.
Jane - “We are talking about a HUGE corporation who can well aford to let these people keep the money.”
This is known as the ‘Deep Pockets’ theory of law, hit the people with the most money, whether they are at fault or not. Letting them keep the money, would set a legal precedent, if you do it for one, you would have to do it for ALL.
“Lets not talk legal stuff here folks,”
As this is a legal matter and we are a nation of LAWS, talking ‘legal stuff’, is the only way to talk about it.
jerry in
Wednesday, November 21 at 07:16 PM
Health insurance is supposed to cover the cost of health care.
Lawsuit settlements are NOT health insurance. It is outrageous that such a clause can even be written into a policy - and it is disgusting that people would defend it (when it obviously has such devastating effects).
Defending the health care/health insurance system in this country is moronic. Look at any other developed country - (and look of the value of the dollar before you say that our economy is better than their’s) and get a clue. This is messed up.
axn in big city
Wednesday, November 21 at 09:56 PM
Well said axn I totally agree. Our country is going to hell in a handbasket and these crooked insurance companies and policies are just the tip of the iceberg. Insurance companies are cheating thousands of people everyday and I can’t see how anyone can defend them. The laws cater to the insurance companies. When I first started driving it wasn’t the law that you had to have insurance but when it was made a law, the companies started rewriting their policies to screw over people and put more money in their pockets. Now its the same with all types of insurance, the companies know insurance is a necessity so they put in all these clauses to screw people over.
As for Wal-Mart, they have their hands in every cookie jar and someday all you people who support them will see what they stand for. They are suppose to be about morals and family values well let me tell you, after working for them, I know all about their morals and family value. Family value to them means Wal-Mart family which is all the big shots with the company. I’m sure some of you defenders of Wal-Mart are employed there so if you aren’t high up the totem pole you should see the light someday. For those Wal-Mart groupies who are not employed there, go get a job there and see if you don’t find out the facts about dirty the company really is, especially if you get an injury or illness.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 21 at 10:34 PM
Walmart issued health insurance for Mrs. Shank. She paid the premiums. She needed health care after the accident. Instead of meeting their responsibility to pay the policy, Walmart claims justification in a clause to ultimately not pay for health care if someone else can be blamed for the accident. Shank had a health care policy with Walmart irrespective of the cause of need or so she thought. Walmart had a policy feature that prevented the Shanks from recovering damages or if they did then the Walmart scumbags wanted the money leaving the Shanks in financial distress.
All the Walmart employee suckers should be aware of this health insurance and other money scams from Walmart. But Walmart will conceal the fine print truth from you… leaving you the impression that you have health insurance coverage for catastrophic events when you actually have something else as a policy, just like it was for these Walmart insurance suckers...the Shanks.
Walmart is my kind of people.
Judas in league with Walmart scumbags
Thursday, November 22 at 12:18 AM
Judas - “Walmart had a policy feature that prevented the Shanks from recovering damages”
Hello, walmart’s insurance did not prevent the Shanks from anything. This was an automobile accident and is covered by automobile insurance, not healthcare insurance. The fact is, walmart insurance advanced the medical payments, kind of a loan, until the liable party paid up, in the lawsuit, then the loan was to be repaid, get it? What you are advocating, is that the Shanks should benefit TWICE for the same bills.
jerry in
Thursday, November 22 at 01:27 AM
Why don’t we let this play out? We can conjecture all we want but none of us has read the petition/pleading filed in the court. I firmly believe the final outcome will be fair for the Shanks from Wal-Mart—let it play out and no point in trying to take me to task for I know a fair amount regarding law and how it works.
What Wal-Mart has written into their insurance polices is very similar if not the same as many companies. As I stated before, I would sue the original attorney, if a fair agreent is not reached. It is his job to know the law and he should have been congnizant of any provisions in the policy and should have read the policy, etc. Then when he sued the trucking firm and the truking firms insurer he should have made this all known to the court, etc. I can’t believe how dumb some of you posters can be.
If the lawyer made the mistake (and we can’t be positive of anything on here) then I would sue him and his insurance company for his errors and omissions resluting in mal practice.
The Sage in
Thursday, November 22 at 01:52 AM
judas, Sick of and axn.... do you people even hear what you are saying?
“Instead of meeting their responsibility to pay the policy, Walmart claims justification in a clause to ultimately not pay for health care if someone else can be blamed for the accident”
“Walmart claims justification in a clause to ultimately not pay for health care if someone else can be blamed for the accident”
“Walmart had a policy feature that prevented the Shanks from recovering damages “
“Lawsuit settlements are NOT health insurance. It is outrageous that such a clause can even be written into a policy”
“but when it was made a law, the companies started rewriting their policies to screw over people and put more money in their pockets”
You have got to be kidding me. Do you people understand some of the things you say and how things work? Bottom line, if the Shanks received no money in a settlement then their health insurance would absolutely pay for treatment. All their health insurance did was advance the money expecting to be paid back. Hell, if the Shanks had sued and lost the case their health insurance would still be the ones paying the bill. They were not the primary.
Sick of.. as for your comment about your friend and the lawsuit… then let me ask you WHY HAVE A CONTRACT IN THE FIRST PLACE??? This should be cut and dry. In the state of MD you can file a Medium claims case up to $25,000 without the need for a lawyer. If your friend has a legitimate claim there is no legal reason why he should not file. btw, i suggest you read up on what “statute of limitations” means because you’re wrong there too.
mary in
Thursday, November 22 at 01:59 AM
I hate to post twice but I have to answer “Sick of WM in”
(post of 11/21 6:49pm) Your posts relative to your friend don’t make much sense to me.
If your friend had a valid contract with WM he should have sued, assuming what you posted is correct. Wal-Mart can be beaten in a court of law and many attorneys jump at the opportunity. I would love to do it but I don’t have a license so I do in another fashion.
Because you hate WM you make many fallacious statements in your posting You are entitled to hate WM if you wish, I am neither for nor against WM - I just want it all to be fair.
Did your friend send an invoice to WM for the jackets? Did they return invoice with a statement of why not pay8ing, etc?
Why did he accept the return of the goods on the trailer?
Lots of questions to make sense of this situation.
You state that WM lawyers would drag it out so long that it would get dropped because of “statute of limitations”. This is a complete falsehood. The limitations statute only runs before the suit is filed, not afterwards. Get facts straight when you get into the legal arena. Maybe now it might be too late to file as the limitation might be two years from a certain date. I don’t know your state nor would I look it up for you. Sorry but I believe you wanted to rant about WM and used your friends case, but I can’t say if he was or was not improperly treated —you give no facts.
The Sage in
Thursday, November 22 at 02:05 AM
Then, of course, there are the PR implications. Some of you older posters will remember the Reality vs Perception debate.
Ken V in Texas
Thursday, November 22 at 04:39 AM
“Deborah Shank had finally qualified for Wal-Mart health benefits...”
“This was an automobile accident and is covered by automobile insurance, not healthcare insurance.”
jerry
“Walmart claims justification in a clause to ultimately not pay for health care if someone else can be blamed for the accident.”
Judas
This is about avarice and ‘love of money’ legal psychopaths in the WalMart business model. She needed the health care policy to pay out irrespective of the cause. WalMart is ultimately balking on their health insurance coverage for Shank. The cause of the accident or who did it is not relevant to the concept or perception of health care coverage and the policy that WalMart collected premiums on. WalMart lost the bet on the need for health care costs. Obviously Judas understands this far better than you jerry.
WalMart- We have no insurable interests in our impoverished ‘associates’. But we want to unjustly enrich ourselves at their expense.
SanDiegoView in
Thursday, November 22 at 04:57 AM
SDV in: Firstly, Happy Thanksgiving,and no doubt you have much to be grateful for, not the least of which, that you and yours were spared from the recent, horrific San Diego fires. I have noticed your use on numerous occasions of the word psychopath.It brought to mind a definition of psycopath that I had looked up( in reference to WalMart ) some years ago when they insinuated themselves into our midst. “Psychopath”: One who has not lost contact with reality,but who engages in abnormally aggressive behavior and/or seriously irresponsible behavior with little or no feeling of guilt.(Merriam Webster New Collegiate Dictionary) I’d say you are spot on,SDV!!
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 10:18 AM
Ken V in Texas: Your resurrection of the “perception vs. reality” conundrum brings to mind the reality of the Bush administration, as oppsed to the promises of “compassionate conservativism” and allusions to no nation building- Well,I guess he did get that one -our nation is not being built up,but is being torn down ,daily thanks to corporate cronyism,NAFTA,CAFTA,SHAFTA,Iraq,illegal immigration,etc.,etc.,etc.,---Folks, its not what people SAY,its what people Do, that is the final proof of the pudding . STOP SHOPPING AT WALMART!!
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 10:28 AM
“Psychopath”: One who has not lost contact with reality,but who engages in abnormally aggressive behavior and/or seriously irresponsible behavior with little or no feeling of guilt”
ddrb, thanks adding that definition. I couldn’t have phrased it better myself when putting label to SDV. And that’s in addition to the PURE OUTRIGHT LIES that he spreads.
“The cause of the accident or who did it is not relevant to the concept or perception of health care coverage and the policy that WalMart collected premiums on” OH HOW WRONG YOU ARE!
mary in
Thursday, November 22 at 10:39 AM
Mary: Perhaps the operative word in SDV’s post was “perception”? BTW,did you ever get around to a suggestion for a” retail rehab” Christmas? You and Matt haven’t come up with any chartiable ideas yet, and Black Friday is almost here!
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 11:37 AM
Well its obvious that Little Miss Mary Know It All and Sage are complete Wal-Mart ignorant groupies. When I say IGNORANT I mean ignorant as to the unamerican values and customs of Wal-Mart. I’m done talking about my friends situation because I told all the facts and you all didn’t read it right or just take time to understand. Wal-Mart brought the jackets back and didn’t even asked him to accept, they unloaded them right on the sidewalk. Now as I said before, you can defend this piece of shit company all you want but people like you are the ones fuel the fire for these assholes. I know the facts about my situation too and Wal-Mart forced me to quit after 8 years of service to them because I got arthritis. I won awards for production and employee of the month and I never missed work so I know how these bastards work. Of course to you Wal-Mart groupies, I’m probably making this up to because you are not going to believe anything bad about Wal-Mart. I talked to 2 lawyers about my situation but neither would go up against Wal-Mart yet Sage says lawyers will jump at the chance to go against them. Hell even in my situation, Wal-Mart fought me from getting unemployment and I couldn’t hardly move for 8 months but they are such a great company and would do no wrong......BULLSHIT.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 22 at 11:37 AM
OOPS: That should have read “charitable”.
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 11:38 AM
Sick of WM—you are the one who does not read the post intelligently. I said in your friend case lawyers would jump at the chance—naturally assuming your friend had a valid cause. From your posting I don’t know if he did or did’t for you are not cogent in your remarks.
As to WM forcing you to quit, I have no comment for I don’t know the facts - perhaps you should have let them eventually fire you and then your cause might be different.
As to unemployment almost all companies will fight the compensation payments, WM is no exception. They can be beat as I did it for a couple of people who were denied benefits, and I filed the papers for them and they got their due. Always do things in a logical manner, I can tell by your post and filthy language why you have become a failure.
When you attempt to say I am an “ignorant WM goupie” you make yourself out a fool. I am a very intelligent person, I look at a situation in a critical and logical vein (not like most on here) and then set up my arguments.
Since you don’t know me don’t make an accusation as I am neither “for” nor “against” Wal-Mart. I give credit where do and take issue when necessary. In certain situations I have had WM back down and change things. (these I cannot discuss on this board) I put my trust in my Lord Jesus for all that I do, and also hope Ron Paul will be the next president.
The Sage in
Thursday, November 22 at 12:28 PM
Its not my fault if all you understand is legal mumbo jumbo. I put everything as clearly and simple as it could be put. Forgive me if I’m not as SMART as you and I do not put everything into words so that you have to be a genius to understand. Maybe you should learn understand more simple things for I am a simple man and I’m proud of it. On the other hand, why would you ASSUME that I’m a failure? Is it because I don’t have a big high paying job like you? Or maybe its because I don’t put everything into legal language like you? Maybe its because I’m not as INTELLIGENT as you. Well whatever it is I really don’t care because I have 3 wonderful daughters and 5 terrific grandkids who don’t think I’m a failure and thats all that matters to me. Some of the things you say in this forum makes me wonder about you because you just don’t read things clearly. I NEVER said you were not intelligent, maybe you should go back and read it slowly so you take it all in. I said you were ignorant to Wal-Marts ways as many thousands of people are. I don’t know you so I don’t say anything about your intelligence other than what you know about Wal-Mart so please do not put words into my mouth. I guess on the other hand you know me because you say I’m a failure. Well like I said, think what you want, I could care less. I’ve written poetry and childrens stories which have been published. I’m working on getting an entire book put together for publication. I work in the security field and I’m also thinking very seriously of going into law enforcement. I’ve been married to the same woman for 25 years and I have a wonderful family. Now if thats being a failure, I will take that any day over being a bloodsucking lawyer.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 22 at 03:14 PM
By the way SAGE I can see by your screen name that you are very arrogant and egotistical. Those are real nice qualities to have and I’m sure our Lord Jesus will send you right through the pearly gates for having such great qualities.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 22 at 03:23 PM
Sick of Walmart in: Yes,I am ,too!! It has been my impression since posting here for just a few months now,that among WalMart"defenders", self-worth is irrelevant-it’s only net worth that counts to them-hence, their loyalty to W/m at any cost,as long as the cost isn’t THEIR bottom line!
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 03:30 PM
P.S.: The “Yes, I am too!!” ,refers to being sick of W/M/.
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 03:32 PM
Well said ddrb now thats some intelligent words right there. I just started posting on here and I thought this site was just for people that were against Wal-Mart. Goes to show there are Wal-Mart defenders everywhere. If some of these ever work for Wal-Mart and get a back injury or a major illness, they will see what I’m talking about because I’ve seen it happen to myself and a few others. I worked with John Mellencamps aunt who sustained a back injury and was fired. She got a lawyer and spent out thousands of dollars to fight Wal-Mart and she lost. Then you have these people on here wondering why more people do not fight Wal-Mart, well I wonder why. I thought about fighting them but I could not afford to lose so I will cut my losses and just accept the lesson I learned about what kind of company Wal-Mart is. This would be a much better country if everyone would realize the facts about Wal-Mart.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 22 at 04:05 PM
Sick of WalMart: Thank you. The best way, in my opinion ,to “tell” everyone one the truth about W/M is to “show” them by example;and, stop shopping there! As consumers, let’s all start being a “no show” at WalMart--- and please “tell” your friends and family to do the same!!
ddrb in
Thursday, November 22 at 04:30 PM
Will the Ayn Rand/Scientology Institute of WalMart Worship actually cover your mental health care needs and costs with the policy they issued you or will it just be a loan with the premiums acting as interest payments until WalMart can recover their costs from the sane?
This was from a part that needed to be moved over here. This is a good picture of what WM insurance is all about. It is not about health insurance. it is about the insanity of greed and those who take advantage of the workers at WM.
Janice in
Thursday, November 22 at 04:50 PM
ddrb-
Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your household. The fire fight now is with the insurance companies of course. I think we had 1008 structures burn down. Not one damn WalMart in the whole bunch. I think God is saving the WalMart’s for employee riots.
Thanks Janice for the thoughts on WalMart as not offering health care but rather a type of loan in this case and probably all others without the knowledge of their ‘associates’.
WalMart- The pickpocket wankers of health care.
SanDiegoView in
Friday, November 23 at 02:11 AM
ufcw unions that rip off their members and dont do shit for them but take their money and throw it in hillaryscampaign
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Friday, November 23 at 08:03 AM
oh is walmart going to get blamed now for the fires in so cal? oh jesus christ get a life sdv and a job.same old bs you post if you dont have anything good and honest to say shut up then and go away.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Friday, November 23 at 08:06 AM
The things Wal-Mart is getting blamed for is things they should get blamed for. SDV has plenty to say but you MATTHEW being just another Wal-Mart groupie will not listen. Seems like you are the one without anything to say, anything that makes sense anyway. As for those fires, did you happen to see how many people got screwed by their insurance companies? Many people did because of a little clause that was put in to make sure they got screwed in case of a natural disaster. We have been talking about insurance companies and Wal-Mart, not unions and Hilary Clinton so maybe you should go away and find a forum that suits your remarks.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 23 at 08:15 AM
“I am a very intelligent person” ~The Sage
People who are truly intelligent Sage, don’t need to make posts telling others how “intelligent” they are. This should be readily apparent to all, shouldn’t it?
I’ve said it once...I’ll say it again. How “intelligent” can you be? You “hope Ron Paul will be the next president?” You better “hope” he gets more than .47 percent of the popular vote like he did the last time he ran for president.
ScrewedbyWal-Mart in Anytown, America
Friday, November 23 at 10:21 AM
People who are truly intelligent Sage, don’t need to make posts telling others how “intelligent” they are.
Perhaps.
But consider this......those who do not regularly “bitch and hiss"* about Wal-Mart are automatically considered to be some sort of doofus by the dedicated followers (sheep) of WMW.
So, what’s a person to do? Get his ass kicked-around by a bunch of nobodies?
I think not.
Speaking of presidental candidates Mr. Bo...er, I mean, Mr. Screwed...just who are you supporting in ‘08?
*Excellent quote by Matthew Vantress—see what happens when you people run-off the Nicks and RDS’?
Sage Supporter in
Friday, November 23 at 10:33 AM
Sage - “perception vs. reality”
I guess, according to quite a few posters here, America should abandon “The Rule of Law” and go to a system of judging by “Feelings”, who people feel most sorry for, would win a case. Forget the ‘reality’ of a situation, but rather judge by what the ‘perception’ of the situation is. Use the old ‘they can afford it’ or ‘I don’t like them’ arguments to make judgments. No judge and jury courts, but rather a show of hands as to who the people think is more worthy of winning the case. Can you imagine the chaos, if we switched to that kind of system? Remember the old ‘lynch mobs’ and ‘vigilanty mentality’ of the old west, sounds like many here would like to bring that back.
Imagine, Sick of Wal-Mart, said you were ignorant, for wanting to sort out the FACTS before making judgment, instead of shooting first and asking questions later, no wonder this country is going downhill as ddrb said, they are the ones taking it there.
jerry in
Friday, November 23 at 10:42 AM
Sick of WM and Screwed by and perhaps I should add SDV --
When I spoke of “my intelligence” it was not meant to be superior (or now, was it????) but in response to a previous post by the above forementioned. Always read things in context—exactly what they say (a very basic concept of law).
My friend (?) SDV likes to quote bible versese but usually, if not almost always, quotes out of context. When one starts studying “The Bible” we are taught to read the chapter (verse) in relation to whom it was written to, and also the era of time in which it was written. Otherwise you will not understand the true meaning. Do you grasp this, SDV?
As to one who questioned why I use the handle, Sage --- it is because I want and try to add some sensible, rational postings to the subject, (and the subject is never followed, too many immediately go back to their usual tirade)
All have a blessed day and now start eating the leftovers.
The Sage in
Friday, November 23 at 11:20 AM
DEFENDING SUBROGATION
On November 20, 2007, the Wall Street Journal wrote a rather slanted piece slamming subrogation and the “grab for legal winnings” resulting from subrogation. The article focused on one particular case involving a brain-damaged woman named Deborah Shank, whose $700,000 settlement was assailed by her subrogated health insurer. It painted a very dark picture of subrogation.
Wal-Mart’s actions are justified and are in the best interest of the U.S. healthcare system and our economy. Here’s why. Subrogation is a legal concept whereby an insurance company which pays a loss, is entitled to recoup the same benefits it pays out, IF its insured later recovers the same items of damages from a negligent party who caused the injuries in the first place. The concept has been around since the days of the Romans and is employed in every insurance policy in America. It helps hold down insurance premiums, keeps health care costs lower, prevents double recoveries by injuried workers and holds negligent tortfeasors accountable for their actions.
Wal-mart acted no differently in this case than every other employer in the country which provides health care. Rather than trash Wal-Mart, let’s exault them for providing health insurance in the first place.
Gary Wickert
Gary L. Wickert in Hartford, WI
Friday, November 23 at 12:00 PM
WOW!!! I can’t believe what I am reading… I happened on this blog and started reading this ridiculous line of crap. My son works for a SMALL locally owned hardwware store.... NO BENEFITS, LOW PAY and I would never expect them to just give him a cool half mil cause some truck hit him. You can rest assured I would be going after the truck driver and his company, but to expect that his company would provided a half mil out of the kindness of their heart. If you are so upset with W Mart, then don’t work there, don’t shop there, but at least make some sense out of your arguments against them. Benefits are not regulated by the government (thank god). Companies pay benefits to attract employees, if their benefits or pay are not as good as the competitors, then don’t work for them. ddrb and Sick of Wal-Mart, you really need to get a life. Perhaps you need to check out the competition and find that they are no better, I don’t recall reading that any of them have ever paid an employee that suffered a terrible accident (and not while working) a cool half mil.
As far as made in MX. The fashoin industry is fighting that all the tiem, it is well known that knock off clothes are a real problem, but go to Target, K Mart or any other discount retailer and find that they are selling cheap knock offs, fight the problem not just one of the retailers.
How many people will be out of work if you are successful at getting Wal Mart to become unprofitable and start closing stores. How many people did K Mart lay off when they they did that?
Good luck in your mis directed efforts.
Can't believe what I am reading! in Detroit, CO
Friday, November 23 at 12:27 PM
For Gary Wickert in Hartford.
Yes you eloquently explained “subrogation” as to its legal consequences. Also your least sentence of exaulting WM for providing insurance is, in my judgement, self-serving for it appears to me that you do or have represented WM in some litigation. Correct me if I am incorrect. I will also step out on a limb and state (in my opinion) that someone else alerted you to this blog and the subject matter and thus your resultant post. (???)
Now, you being an attorney, let me ask: Do you believe the Shank’s attorney did a good job in representing them?
Should he not have been aware of the wording in the WM policy that Shank had and its consequences? Do you believe their attorney is culpable of some errors and omissions of law? Thanks in advance for answering.
The Sage in
Friday, November 23 at 01:06 PM
“But They All Do It”
“Perhaps you need to check out the competition and find that they are no better...”
Your lame “argument” was covered a long time about by posters like matthew vantress, “Can’t believe what I am reading! in Detroit, CO.”
Maybe you should look into what’s meant by “The Race to the Bottom,” and what company is leading the charge!
ScrewedbyWal-Mart in Anytown, America
Friday, November 23 at 02:16 PM
To Can’t Believe: If this is such a ridiculous line of crap then why didn’t you just keep on surfing the web instead of adding your line of crap right in with it. You think this is all about the Shanks? WRONG. This is about Wal-Mart in general because they are as un-american as they could possibly get. Do you have a Wal-Mart in your town because if you do then your son is lucky to have a job because Wal-Mart has destroyed more small businesses than you could ever imagine. As for my arguments, I have made sense and I feel like that if you have never worked for Wal-Mart then you could never truly know what kind of company you are defending. Even those of us who have worked for Wal-Mart will never truly know all the details about how terrible this company really is. I don’t work for them anymore and I damn sure don’t shop there. I’m sure alot of you wouldn’t shop there if you saw how the merchandise is treated in the warehouse but I won’t even go into that because I would either be called a liar or one of the groupies would come up with some justification for Wal-Marts actions. Maybe K-Mart and every other retailer in this country is doing things that they shouldn’t but it will never compare with what Wal-Mart has and will do in the future. Wal-Mart has tried to come into my town and they have failed because the people here have fought it, most people here do not trust Wal-Mart and thats as it should be. Theres plenty of sites dedicated to Wal-Mart horror stories and maybe some of those are false but if you think that all of them are then you are only kidding yourself.
THE SAGE: When I spoke of your intelligence......well now wait, I never really spoke of your intelligence now did I? You wouldn’t be reading things out of context would you? It seems to me like you read alot of things out of context and turn them into something completely different so you can use your intelligence to defend something that wasn’t even said. I like your little remark...When I spoke of “my intelligence” it was not meant to be superior (or now, was it????)...You seem to always throw something in to make yourself superior. Like I said before, your money, intelligence, and your job will never make you superior. I also like this remark you made.....I put my trust in my Lord Jesus for all that I do, and also hope Ron Paul will be the next president....You feel so superior that you think its YOUR LORD JESUS, thats nice but I think its OUR LORD JESUS. I think you need to get over yourself because in every post its easy to see you are infatuated with yourself. By the way, think what you want but this was not an insult towards your intelligence or towards you as a person.......(or now, was it????)
JERRY: Well I’d first like to thank you for pleasuring us with the most ignorant post in this forum....THANK YOU. It was good for a laugh but thats about it. Its obvious you don’t read things clearly and you take things out of context. I guess unfortunately that I’m going to have to explain this again since you just can’t comprehend whats in plain english 3 or 4 times right in front of your face. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SAGE’S INTELLIGENCE OR WANTING TO SORT THINGS OUT. I SAID HE WAS IGNORANT TO WAL-MARTS WAYS AS MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE. NOW TO CLARIFY THIS JERRY.....I MEAN WAL-MARTS VALUES, MORALS, UN-AMERICAN, AND UNETHICAL WAYS. I worked for Wal-Mart for 8 years, I know how they are. Now hopefully Jerry I put this simple enough that even you can understand it. As for this insurance deal with the Shank’s, every company probably would do the same thing but that doesn’t make it right in a human compassion kind of way. The guy had to divorce his wife just so she get medicaid come on now wheres the justice in that. This family is traumatized for the rest of their lives and all you can say is that Wal-Mart did the right thing. Thats what our society has come to and its pathetic. I’m sure OUR LORD JESUS will not take lightly this lack of human compassion.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 23 at 02:19 PM
Are You One of Wal-Mart’s Attorney’s Mr. Wickert?”
You must be one of Wal-Mart’s attorneys that helped ram the Wal-Mart Supercenter down the throats of the residents of Hartford. How’s the construction coming along?
ScrewedbyWal-Mart in Anytown, America
Friday, November 23 at 02:22 PM
ScrewedbyWal-Mart: Your posts are are short but right to the point, keep up the good work.
For those of you who want to read “THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM” go here and check it out. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0218-10.htm
Of course I know its a sure thing that the Wal-Mart groupies will defend them no matter how much wrong they do so I’m hoping they don’t visit that site because I really don’t want to hear their input on it.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 23 at 02:27 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - Let’s see who is actually ignorant about walmart, you said:
“I worked for Wal-Mart for 8 years, I know how they are.”
You know how they are, but still worked there for 8 years, not 8 weeks or 8 months, but 8 YEARS, how IGNORANT is that, if they are so bad?
jerry in
Friday, November 23 at 08:30 PM
Well thanks so much for proving how ignorant you really are. I said if some of you worked there and got an injury or major illness you would see how Wal-Mart really is. Now if you can read clearly you will see that I worked there for 8 years BEFORE getting arthritis after which I got screwed over by the company. I heard alot of horror stories about Wal-Mart throughout that 8 years but I usually just let those go in one ear and out the other . I did know a few people who were involved with other cases involving sexual harrassment, rascism, and injury situations but those were things that I was informed of my last 2 years there. Like I said I never realized how bad it was until something happened to me. Now I’d like to thank you for the 2nd most ignorant post in this forum.....THANKS JERRY. Have a nice day.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 23 at 08:42 PM
LMAO LMAO LMAO Thats some funny shit. Jerry you are a dumbass.
Wal-Mart Sux in
Friday, November 23 at 08:45 PM
Sick O Wal-Mart - “Now if you can read clearly you will see that I worked there for 8 years BEFORE getting arthritis after which I got screwed over by the company.”
So, for 8 years, you didn’t see how ‘bad’ the company was, right? Guess it takes you a long time to learn things.
“I heard alot of horror stories about Wal-Mart throughout that 8 years but I usually just let those go in one ear and out the other .”
Maybe that is because you have nothing between those ears to stop it. Besides, how exactly did you get ‘screwed over by the company’? You worked 8 years and thought things were fine, then, didn’t like something that happened to you and all of a sudden, walmart became ‘bad’, admit it.
jerry in
Friday, November 23 at 09:21 PM
OH MY GOD....This last post by Jerry may have actually topped the list of ignorance. I don’t have to admit anything moron and it doesn’t matter what I say anyway because you are not going to understand it due to your low mentality. Most people don’t believe everything they hear so why should I be any different? Was I suppose to believe everything that was said? You’re about one thing, I didn’t like something that happened to me....SO WHAT RETARD. Would you like to be treated like a piece of shit by a company you worked for for 8 years just because you arthritis? PROBABLY NOT!!!! How did I get screwed over by the company....THIS IS GREAT. I’m not going to explain it again, its already posted more than once, its not my fault if you can’t read it. Have whoever is reading you these comments to read them all to you slowly and explain them along the way so that MAYBE you might understand them and I stress the MAYBE. Its obvious you are very lacking in the common sense department Jerry. About anywhere you work, you are going to hear horror stories but you don’t always believe them until you have one of your own. Nothing you say makes sense at all and I feel like my IQ has gone down just by conversing with you. I don’t know who is letting you on the computer but I really wish they would stop because I’ve had enough laughs over this whole matter but now your posts are becoming too ignorant to even acknowledge. JERRY.....YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK.........GOODBYE.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 23 at 09:46 PM
Damn this shit is great, you people should go on Jerry Springer LMAO
Wal-Mart Sux in
Friday, November 23 at 09:56 PM
Well Wal-Mart Sux I’m afraid that even the guests on the Jerry Springer show have a higher mentality than Jerry here. I was think more along the lines of the tv show AMERICAS DUMBEST CRIMINALS for Jerry because it has got to be a crime to post such ignorant remarks in any forum.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 23 at 10:08 PM
Sick of WalMart in: That is just so dead-on funny !!As Ken V would say,"That’s a keeper”!!
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 12:34 AM
Don’t let the likes of jerry run you off, Sick Of Wal-Mart. I, for one, think nothing spices up a Wal-Mart blog more than a disgruntled former employee.
If you worked for Wal-Mart in the recent past, your 8-year tenure straddled the change from Sam’s Dream to the <Beast of Bentonville</i>. I’d love to hear your war stories.
“The open-door policy, merit raises, and grass roots policies are nothing but myths in the Wal-mart religion. They are as real as our wonderful healthcare program, and Corporate’s fair work practices, and the tooth fairy. Maybe if enough of us speak up, the general consumer will realize we are not just complaining. If the Wal-mart empire is supposed to be one big happy family, then we are it’s stepchildren.” ~ Sylvia D’Angelo (9 yrs)
Ken V in Texas
Saturday, November 24 at 06:30 AM
Thanks Ken and ddrb its just nice to finally see some posts from people with a higher mentality than a rock. I hope Jerry is 12 years old, that would explain alot. So has anyone heard how Black Friday went for Wal-Mart? I saw several stores on the news with hundreds of people in line but Wal-Mart was not on there so hopefully their sales were at low this year. If anyone has info please share.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Saturday, November 24 at 07:27 AM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - “I don’t have to admit anything moron and it doesn’t matter what I say anyway because you are not going to understand it due to your low mentality.”
Low mentality, what kind of mentality does it take to WORK at a company for 8 years and not SEE what is going on there? Why did you think those ‘other’ people were complaining? You must have thought it was BS, or you would have listened to them.
“Was I suppose to believe everything that was said? “
But, you want us to believe everything YOU say, right, so if it was okay for you not to believe what they said, why is it ‘ignorant’ for us to not believe what you say?
“You’re about one thing, I didn’t like something that happened to me....SO WHAT RETARD.”
So, something happened that made you mad, everybody has things happen at work that make them mad, but just because YOU didn’t LIKE the outcome, doesn’t mean that walmart was wrong for doing what they did. As far as I know, walmart didn’t give you arthritis, so what should walmart have done, put you on injured reserve and pay you for the rest of your life? You are paid to do a job, if you can’t do it anymore, why do you think you should continue to get paid? If I work at a company and they lay me off permanently, should I say that they are a ‘bad’ company, because I no longer have a job there?
Some people tend to forget that walmart is a business and not a charity, but people with a welfare mentality, seem to think that a job is guaranteed for life, whether or not you are able to do the job or not. And, like it or not, when something in a business is no longer useful, it needs to be replaced. That may sound ‘cold’ when applied to human beings, but it is a reality when it comes to a business, because they can’t afford to support millions of EX employees, look what is happening at GM, to see what is happening with legacy costs to the company. If you are diabled and unable to work with your arthritis, see if SSI will help you out, that’s their job, not walmarts.
“I hope Jerry is 12 years old, that would explain alot.”
You sound more like a 12 year old, asking mommy and daddy (walmart) to take care of you, because you got sick.
jerry in
Saturday, November 24 at 10:22 AM
Jerry in : WHAT?? I didn’t know you believed in GOVERNMENT handouts,Jerry??What about all that personal responsibilty and bootstrap business? Now, wouldn’t that jack your jaws if your taxes went to poor ole Sick of WalMart?? I think there’s a REALdifference between a hand out and a hand up,unlike you, whatever name your using today is!BTW, you do pay taxes,don’t you,or, have you torn a page out of the W/M tax avoidance handbook and set up a REIT for your rental property?Hmmm?
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 11:58 AM
Sick of WalMart: I hope you qualify for any and all benefits that you can! Jerry (aka RDS,Donald,etc.) has made personal responsibily and ambition his anthem for quite a while, now.The concept of “there but for the grace of God go I” hasn’t resonated fully with him,yet.Not only will he speak out of all sides of his multiples selves’ mouths,he’ll trying putting words in yours,too!Next time he tries that ..bite down..hard… real hard!!
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 12:41 PM
Jerry is not rds.......figure it out, dispstick!
Ahhhh in
Saturday, November 24 at 01:33 PM
Ahhhh in: Ahhhh- ha ha ha-that’s a laugh! It would be far more correct to call me lipstick rather than by your own description---dipstick!
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 01:51 PM
BTW: For further proof of who’s a “dipstick”,can’t you even SPELL the insult correctly? It’s D-I-P-S-T-I-C-K, you dipstick!
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 02:03 PM
Nice ddrb, tell the dipsticks how it is or should I say DISPSTICKS. Hell I’m not even going to acknowledge Jerry, half of his comments are where he copied and pasted what others say. I guess he can’t come up with enough of his own words so he has to use everybody elses. If ignorance was a virtue, Jerry would be very gifted and he might even be the president of Wal-Mart because he definitely has plenty of ignorance. Its amusing how he says the same things over and over. He always ASSUMES he knows all the facts when in reality he is just another Wal-Mart ignorant groupie who wouldn’t believe the facts if GOD Himself was to explain them. Talking to people like Jerry is like beating a dead dog with a stick, its a waste of time. Jerry either works for Wal-Mart or just refuses to believe the truth, either way he is a total idiot. Maybe he is just one of those people who go around being an idiot on all the forums because he can’t get attention elsewhere. Whatever it may be its still funny how someone can be so moronic, its good for a laugh. Its obvious Jerry doesn’t read well or doesn’t take time to understand things clearly or he would know from an earlier post that I’m not disabled. I’ve worked since I was 12 years old and I deal with the arthritis the best I can. As for Wal-Mart taking care of me, that was spoken like only a moron like Jerry could put it. I never asked Wal-Mart to take care of me, I had to do physical therapy and I asked for light duty for a few weeks, now I’m sorry but I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. The doctor even wanted me on light duty but guess what, Wal-Mart wouldn’t have it......THATS SOME GREAT COMPANY. Theres plenty of jobs at Wal-Mart that could be given to employees that needed a less physical workload but hey maybe all companies should do it Jerrys way and just put the employees out to pasture. Jerry says people with a welfare mentality think a job is guaranteed for life but most people with a welfare mentality don’t even work so once again Jerry makes an ignorant statement, I think its becoming a trend. So it seems Jerry is a man of many words and many screen names but I think Jerry should just change his screen name to JOCKSTRAP because Wal-Mart is ran by a bunch of NUTS and Jerry supports them.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Saturday, November 24 at 03:56 PM
Sick of WalMart: You are an early, holiday gift to this blog!! A MOST unexpected and VERY welcome gift,might I add.Thank you,thank you,thank you!! (How about Jacques Strap?)
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 04:23 PM
JACQUES STRAP....Oh My God that is classic, I only wish I had thought of it, thats great. One other thing that I should mention is Jerry Jacques Straps remarks about believing what I say. I don’t recall calling anyone ignorant for not believing what I say so thats just more proof that Jerry doesn’t read things clearly. I could care less if Jerry or anyone else believes me, my family and I know the truth so thats all that matters. Well the unemployment office knows the truth too because they caught Wal-Mart in a lie and I did get my unemployment for 6 months. Wal-Mart wanted to fight the unemployment but after being caught in a lie the case didn’t even go to court. If I was in this forum talking about how great Wal-Mart is you can bet that Jerry and all the other WM SUPPORTERS would believe everything I was saying. Its funny how they only believe the good things said about WM but refuse to believe that WM could do any wrong. Maybe Jerry should start his own organization for the defense of Wal-Mart. He could call it Jerry Jacques Strap and His Bag of Nuts.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Saturday, November 24 at 05:30 PM
Sick of WalMart: Thanks. Maybe something like Jerry Jacques Strap and His Sack of Wal-nuts??
ddrb in
Saturday, November 24 at 06:12 PM
Jerry is not rds.......figure it out, dispstick!
Ahhhh in
I see Nick is back
WallStreet in
Saturday, November 24 at 11:56 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - I never said that walmart was great and I know that they have problems there, but, when someone says something stupid, I respond. As far as things like light duty goes, most companies will not put people on light duty, unless the injury is work related, for injuries or illnesses non-work related, there is FMLA, that is what it was created for. Think what would happen, if they let you work on light duty and you ended up hurting yourself, they would then be liable and could be sued by you. Many people here, think that things walmart does are only done at walmart and no where else, but most things are standard practice at most companies, it’s legal things. Like denying unemployment, most companies do this. People take these things personally, but, the rules are in place to protect the company from people who would try to screw the company over. but, you can’t see this, because you only see YOUR side of the story.
By the way, you may notice that I didn’t call you a moron, idiot or retarded, I leave the name calling to your side.
jerry in
Sunday, November 25 at 12:43 AM
sick of walmart ive worked for numerous other places that treated their workers far worse than walamart has or has ever been accused of.im sick of one company getting picked on all the time when others that pay less like fast food and others that treat their people worse and no ever says shit about that or fusses the same as they do on walmart.are you telling me no other companie besides walmart has ever been accused of mistreating their workers?sorry i dont buy it.you are right jerry tthe same crap happens more often at sick of s favorite expensive other stores than walmart.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Sunday, November 25 at 05:53 AM
Jerry Jerry Jerry.....I’m astounded at how you seem to know so much about Wal-Mart yet you know absolutely nothing. FMLA and light duty are two different things and I don’t know how you can compare them. I was released by a doctor to work light duty which means Jerry that it was OK for me to work light duty. Are you telling me that if I got hurt on the job I could only sue the company if I was on light duty? Do you realize how hard it would be to sue for an injury at work just because I was on light duty when I was released by a doctor to work? I don’t know about most companies but you are way wrong on the light duty as far as WM goes. I worked with a lady who was on light duty because she fell off of a horse and another lady because of a car accident and guess what Jerry, neither of those accidents happened at WM. If you knew even half as much as you act like you know, you might actually make sense. As for FMLA, which of the following categories was it that I fit into Jerry since you know so much:
* for the birth and care of the newborn child of the employee;
* for placement with the employee of a son or daughter for adoption or foster care;
* to care for an immediate family member (spouse, child, or parent) with a serious health condition; or
* to take medical leave when the employee is unable to work because of a serious health condition.
Now remember I was released to work light duty so as you can (or should) see, none of those options worked for me. Also, 12 weeks is the limit for FMLA and I was off longer than that. That 12 weeks is unpaid and I have a family, I needed a paycheck. Did WM care.....hell no. It seems to me Jerry that all you are concerned with is the people that screw over the company.....WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO GET SCREWED OVER BY THE COMPANY????? You are right, most companies do fight workers getting unemployment because they don’t care about the workers. If someone gets laid off or fired, they still deserve unemployment especially if they have been on that job for a long period of time. Most people do have bills to pay and families to feed so I see absolutely nothing wrong with drawing unemployment if you have to. Like I said, WM lied to try and keep me from getting unemployment and they were caught in their lie but I guess thats ok too isn’t it Jerry?
Mattew your comment is right up there with Jerry’s on the ignorant list. HAVE YOU WORKED FOR WM? If not then how the hell could you know what I’m talking about? How the hell could you know the other places are worse? If you have worked so many different places then you must not be a good employee anyway, can’t you hold a job. Maybe you are just saying all the other places are worse because they have all fired you. If all the other places are worse then maybe you need to get off this forum and start your own up about the other places, nobody is stopping you. Theres lots of companies that have been accused of doing wrong but not near as much as WM so if you want to pick on a smaller company be my guest, myself I’d rather go after the big dog and especially since I know by experience how they are. This forum is about WM and its simple, if you don’t like it, don’t read it. I can’t actually believe you compared WM to fast food places, you do realize that some Wal-Mart warehouses have made over 1 billion dollars in one day don’t you? Now you show me a fast food place thats made that much in one day. How the hell can you make such a stupid comparison. After reading your comment a few times Matthew I’ve come to the conclusion that we have a new #1 most ignorant comment and.....DING DING DING, ITS YOURS.....congratulations. If you do decide to start your own forum to rant about the MANY places you have worked that are worse than WM may I suggest you use better grammar and spelling. For instance, its COMPANY....not....COMPANIE. Just a little constructive criticism Matthew, it looks like you are going to need it.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, November 25 at 07:59 AM
“you do realize that some Wal-Mart warehouses have made over 1 billion dollars in one day don’t you?”?????
mary in
Sunday, November 25 at 08:29 AM
APPLAUSE EVERYONE.......Mary has learned how to copy and paste. Thats very good Mary now just learn how to put things into your own words. The progress is moving right along though keep up the good work.
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, November 25 at 09:22 AM
I have say Sick of Wal-Mart… you are your own worst enemy with some of the things you say. Just keep up the posts because you’re doing a great job for everyone to see.
mary in
Sunday, November 25 at 10:46 AM
Sick of WalMart: You can consider yourself officially “shill shocked”,now! Or, in Mary’s case,"shrill shocked”. However, I, and others no doubt agree,you’re doing a heck of a job,Sick of WalMart!!
ddrb in
Sunday, November 25 at 12:34 PM
P.S.:Another of the “WAL"-nuts....in Frere Jacques bag.
ddrb in
Sunday, November 25 at 12:37 PM
Thanks ddrb but we must give credit where credit is due. Mary is doing a fine job too......giving us all a laugh. She is definitely one of the Wal-Nuts. At least she didn’t copy and paste that last comment, she actually used her own words (or maybe someone told her what to say). Now if she could just learn to make sense but of course its hard to make sense when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. What would I know though because I’m my own worst enemy (can’t you tell by the things I say?). You know ddrb that line might be the #1 most senseless sentence made in this forum but hey Mary is at least trying to put things into her own words. I guess its one step at a time so maybe next she will actually make sense or at least lets hope so (I can only handle so much laughing at one time).
Sick Of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, November 25 at 03:26 PM
“"you do realize that some Wal-Mart warehouses have made over 1 billion dollars in one day don’t you?”
I have “no idea” what I’m talking about? MY statements were “senseless”? Wow, I never figured both you and ddrb to be that dumb. Do you ever read some of the stuff you say? That’s too funny. Yea I guess I have to agree with ddrb, you are doing a “heck of a job” Sick of.... just keep up the good work as your as-clueless sidekick backs you up.
mary in
Sunday, November 25 at 07:22 PM
mary i can feel the anger baby and i need you to know i am your cushion when you need to chill.your hotter than a car tailpipe and your just as rumbling.lookin at you mare.see ya latter gal friend.
student of matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Sunday, November 25 at 09:26 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - You write so many stupid things, that it is fully laughable, to read them.
No company is obligated to take a worker back that has been put on ‘light duty’, doctors excuse or not, if you can’t do your regular job, they can refuse to let you return to work. As for the class of FMLA you would fall under, the last one applies, because you are disabled enough to keep you from doing your REGULAR job. The ONLY time they are REQUIRED to give you ‘light duty’, is if you were hurt at work and they have a ‘light duty’ position they can put you on, without disrupting another employee, otherwise, they can put you on disability and pay you workman’s compensation.
You remind me of a guy I used to work with, I did something against my supervisor’s instructions and that guy told me I was going to get in trouble for it, I told him that Federal Law, said I didn’t have to do it, then the guy said, Federal Laws don’t apply here. Guess what, I didn’t get in trouble for not doing it. You think you know the laws, but the only laws you know, are the ones you make up or think they should be.
The reason mary thinks you are so funny, is because that comment about a warehouse making over $1 billion a day is a hoot, that’s because, WAREHOUSES DON"T MAKE MONEY, because they DON’T SELL ANYTHING, they just receive and ship material, the stores are the ones that make the money, warehouses are just an expense to the company. What a loser you are.
And, you call me stupid.
jerry in
Sunday, November 25 at 09:36 PM
Jerry once again you are so very wrong. Well I guess you have never worked for Wal-Mart, thats obvious. Wal-Mart has their own warehouses which are called Wal-Mart Distribution Centers and yes moron they do make money. You need to do research before you talk about something you have no clue about. These warehouses are located all over the world and Wal-Mart actually buys their merchandise from these warehouses. Research it loser because now you are really making yourself look ignorant. FMLA is for someone who CAN’T work dipshit, how hard is that for you to understand? You are so stupid its unreal, I can’t believe you would even post comments on any forum because I seriously doubt that you have enough itelligence to watch and understand Sesame Street. You damn sure DON’T know Wal-Mart so you are just flapping your jaws and hoping to get something right but it isn’t working. Like you admitted, you do things against the supervisors instructions which is probably why you can’t hold a job anyway. Telling me how Wal-Mart warehouses work is just complete stupidity on your part because I worked there, I know. You are nothing short of retarded and thats easy to see in your comments.
Mary you wrote the book on senseless and ignorant comments. At least you have a few students who are doing well in following you in DUMBASS COMMENTS 101. Do you work for Wal-Mart Mary? If you do, you know I’m 100% right about the warehouses. If you don’t then please stop playing know it all because you are so full of shit your eyes are brown. It seems like you have a little cyber buddy in Student of Matthew Vantress which is in all reality Matthew himself (we can tell by the typing Matthew). I just hope you two never hook up because you would make some really ignorant kids. For now Mary if any of us want your opinion we will just scrape it off Matthews zipper. Like they say, opinions are like assholes, everybodys got one, but your opinions are nothing but shit. Maybe you should move on to an internet sex site because it seems by Matthews comment you might just be a cyber slut anyways. One thing is clear, you are on this forum just to get attention and believe me as I’m sure you already know, being a complete and total moron will get you attention. Its getting old though, your comments are becoming too stupid to even reply to but I just can’t help myself. By the way, what site are you selling yourself on, I’d love to the looks that go with such ignorance?
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, November 25 at 10:38 PM
Wal-Mart Distribution Centers Capture $150 Million in Subsidies
Since the 1980s, Wal-Mart has received at least $150 million in local, state, and federal subsidies to build 47 distribution centers in 32 states, according to a study by The Palm Beach Post.
Only those subsidies that have been quantified in published reports were counted. “That number likely grows by tens of millions when unquantified breaks, such as government bond financing for construction, and ongoing breaks, such as those given to businesses in enterprise zones, are included,” the newspaper notes.
The Post only reviewed subsidies for distribution centers. It did not examine the hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks and incentives Wal-Mart has received for its retail stores.
Wal-Mart currently has 84 distribution centers in the U.S.. The retailer has been building new centers at a furious pace to support new stores and its expansion into groceries.
Wal-Mart generally expects to receive government assistance for new distribution facilities and sometimes plays neighboring towns against one another to get the best deals. The centers vary in size from about 400,000 square feet to well over 1 million. They employ anywhere from 150 to 1,000 people at wages of about $8-$10 an hour.
Among the biggest subsidies documented by the report: $17 million in state and local incentives for distribution center in Lewiston, Maine; a $9 million handout in Bartlesville, Oklahoma; and $8.9 million free land and tax credits provided in Macclenny, Florida.
Earlier this year, activists in Killingly, Connecticut, had to file a Freedom of Information Act request to make public the details of $46 million in state and local subsidies earmarked for a Wal-Mart distribution center. Public outcry led the Killingly zoning board to effectively kill the project by denying a request to rezone the property.
Such subsidies are rarely, if at all, made available to locally owned businesses and their distributors. This has given Wal-Mart an unfair advantage in the market. Moreover, there’s little to justify the subsidies from an economic development standpoint. While distribution centers may boost employment locally, these new jobs generally come at the expense of existing distribution jobs in the surrounding region. Dozens of supermarket distributors have gone out of business since Wal-Mart began selling groceries.
Read All About It in
Monday, November 26 at 07:01 AM
big deal a lot of high profile corporations have recived govt assistence to invest in areas.how come all the walmart haters never bitch about the other comapnies getting govt help?
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Monday, November 26 at 08:08 AM
Matthew like I said before, why don’t you start your own forum and bitch about the other places? Wal-Mart gets all that government assistance yet they make billions of dollars. I guess it doesn’t matter about all the other businesses that Wal-Mart destroys either does it? You are just a complete moron and you really need to learn how to spell before commenting. Misspelling 1 word every once in awhile is ok but damn dude I’m surprised you can spell your own name. You are just another Wal-Nut who is completely blind to what Wal-Mart is doing to this country and unfortunately theres plenty of others just like you. You are all ate up with the same disease.....A BAD CASE OF DUMBASS.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 08:46 AM
Sick of Wal-Mart. You are a piece of work with the vulgerness and hatred you preach… and that’s on top of the ABSOLUTE LIES, MISCOMPREHENSION AND TOTAL LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND COMMON SENSE. I bet you are a great role model for your grandkids. I just hope i will do much better than you when I’m your age and have grandkids of my own, but then again being a better model than you won’t be that hard. I can see now why you worked at Walmart FOR 8 YEARS.
Mary in
Monday, November 26 at 10:29 AM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - “ Wal-Mart has their own warehouses which are called Wal-Mart Distribution Centers and yes moron they do make money. You need to do research before you talk about something you have no clue about. These warehouses are located all over the world and Wal-Mart actually buys their merchandise from these warehouses.”
So, you are saying that walmart makes money, buying things from itself, right? What a doorknob you are. When all is said and done, it is walmart corporate that makes all the money, because the DC is a subsidiary, owned by walmart. Tell me, if YOU sell something to YOURSELF, how much money did YOU make?
“FMLA is for someone who CAN’T work dipshit, how hard is that for you to understand?”
So, when someone takes off for their wife to have a child, that means ‘They can’t work’, right. And, if your company won’t let you do ‘light’ duty, because you can’t do your REGULAR JOB, then that means, YOU CAN’T WORK THERE, get it?
“Like you admitted, you do things against the supervisors instructions which is probably why you can’t hold a job anyway.”
Who said I can’t hold a job, the shortest job I have ever had, was 5 years, the longest was 15 years, so I guess you are right, I can’t hold a job. Doorknob. By the way, I worked at that place for 12 years after not following the supervisors instructions, because the instructions violated a Federal Law, he was the one who got in trouble over it, not me.
“Telling me how Wal-Mart warehouses work is just complete stupidity on your part because I worked there, I know.”
That’s the point, you worked there for 8 years and said you DIDN’T know what was going on, all the time you worked there. I may not know EXACTLY what went on, from YOUR point of view, but, I do know how businesses operate. You just see things from an employees point of view and not very well at that. Walmart didn’t get that big, by being as STUPID as you are. It’s no wonder that they got ahead and you didn’t.
jerry in
Monday, November 26 at 11:27 AM
Enlighten me Mary you dumbass, why did I work for Wal-Mart for 8 years? Don’t you even mention my grandkids because you don’t know them or me. This is suppose to be an adult forum isn’t it? Now why should I have to act like I’m talking to a bunch of children in here other than the fact that you idiots act like a bunch of children? As for me being a role model I must be doing something right because I have a daughter going to college to be a teacher, a daughter thats a nurse and another daughter thats an honor student in high school....yep I’m a failure. I’ve told no lies in this forum for your information and I could care less what you believe. The truth doesnt matter to you idiots because you absolutely are not going to believe the truth anyway. Ive stated the facts as Ive seen them, you on the other hand know absolutely nothing and you post the same stupid shit over and over. I think your new name should be MARY GO ROUND because you go around to all these forums posting the same senseless bullshit in every single one of them. Like I said before little miss Mary know it all, you think you know everything but in reality you are just a stupid #$&ch;without a clue. I’m really sick of you dumbass HOLIER THAN THOU assholes who think you are better and more intelligent than everyone else. I got a little fact for you idiots, you don’t know shit about Wal-Mart, you just act like you do so you can have a cause to stand up for. Wal-Mart is not good for this country and neither are people like you. If you cared at all about the country we live in you would damn sure not support Wal-Mart but you are too stupid to see that. You call me a liar but everything I’ve said about Wal-Mart is posted all over the internet with facts to prove it and still you don’t see the truth and thats nothing but pure stupidity. You have no common sense whatsoever. You talk about me being a bad role model well my kids do care about this country and they don’t support a company with no ethics, morals or family values. You on the other hand will teach your kids to love Wal-Mart and its unamerican ways, wow what a great role model you will be. This country is so screwed up for so many reasons and people like you are part of the problem. If you don’t love this country then why not just get the hell out of it? Its obvious you will never do anything to make the USA a better place and whats worse is that you don’t even care. You don’t care about all the people and small businesses Wal-Mart has stepped on and that makes you a pathetic piece of shit in my book. I hope someday Wal-Mart steps on you or a family member and then we will see how you like it. Would you still justify them? With your complete ignorance, you probably would. I will never be able to comprehend how you and the other Wal-Mart groupies could be so stupid so I’ve just quit trying to figure it out. You are worthless, your comments are meaningless but you are one hell of a role model aren’t you? What a joke. Now go spread your stupidity around to all the forums MARY GO ROUND.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 11:30 AM
Mary in: Your contempt for WalMart associates has been a recurring theme in your recent posts. It is at odds, however, considering your admiration for the company and its executives , that you have so little respect for those who work or have worked there in the past, providing the labor force upon which to build and maintain the company. I believe you said the employees were more expendable than the executives, now didn’t you??If all the WalMart associates walked off the job,at the same time,for one day-who would be more expendable then??
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 11:35 AM
BTW: I don’t know for certain if you are a “shill”, but in the event you are,I hope WalMart kept their receipt, so they can get their money back.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 11:38 AM
Sick of WalMart: Remember what I said about disinformation campaigns? May I suggest you go into the archives and read some of “Mary’s” charming contributions - “Mary’s “ greatest hits (mostly misses). IMHO,she’s the resident Anne Coulter “wannabe” say perhaps, “Mary” Anne Coulter?
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 11:47 AM
P.S.: I think you have accurately diagnosed that “spinning” sensation I get from the Mary-go-round!
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 11:54 AM
Jerry I’m really sick to death of your stupidity. If you don’t believe me about the WM Distibution Centers, contact WM and ask them. After you ask them, then come on here make up some more lies. You are a complete moron without a clue. The warehouses stay in business because they are the ones selling the merchandise to the stores you dumbass. How many trucks have you seen at Wal-Mart stores from companies such as J.B Hunt, Yellow, Roadway, Schneider, Swift, or any others? Not very many if any. You know why idiot? Because the warehouses buy the products and the stores then buy it back as they need it to stock their shelves. I can’t help it if it sounds stupid to you, but thats the way WM does it. I worked at a DC that broke a record for sales as they sold 1 billion dollars worth of merchandise in one day. Now guess what Jerry you fool, we didn’t sell the items out on the street to consumers, WE SOLD IT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAL-MART STORES. How do you think the Distribution Centers make so much money, playing the lottery? As for FMLA, I have never dealt with FMLA anywhere other than Wal-Mart so all I can say is you don’t know how they do it. Besides you dumbass I wasn’t off work for a birth or a sick relative, I was off because I was sick. I was told that the situation I was in was not covered by FMLA because I was able to work. I guess you are even smarter than the lady who handles the FMLA for WM though aren’t you since you know so much. Anyway, like I said FMLA is only a 12 week deal so that excluded me anyway, it would be nice if you would read and understand instead of just making up your own senseless bullshit. I’ve checked out these other forums and I see you are just like Mary.....FULL OF SHIT. You go around copying and pasting everything that others say and then making up some stupid crap to try and make yourself look intelligent. Do us all a favor loser...MOVE TO IRAQ AND TAKE THAT STUPID ASS MARY WITH YOU, we don’t need you retards in this country. Hell other countries are laughing at us now because of WM and you idiots that support them. I don’t consider you pieces of shit to be Americans and this country would be so much better without the likes of you.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 11:54 AM
Sicko/ddrb WMW’s new “dynamic duo”—what rock did you two crawl out from under?
Hit me with your best shot in
Monday, November 26 at 11:59 AM
Does this mark the end of the “Screwed/Ken V era”?
Stan G in
Monday, November 26 at 12:02 PM
ddrb - How the hell do I get kicked out of this forum? I’m trying to get kicked out so I don’t have to deal with this stupidity from Jerry & Mary. As long as I’m able to come on here I will because its like an addiction, its so mesmerizing to see how totally ignorant these people can be. I tell you one thing I’ve figured out, it would be easier to explain things to a rock than these two idiots. I’m sure I could get the rock to understand things more clearly. I seriously think these two could sit down to watch Sesame Street and they would need someone to explain everything to them. I’m just completely baffled that they could actually be this damn stupid. I would love to see what they look like so I would know what the face of stupidity looks like. They seem to be living in their own little world and they need to become disillusioned so they can see the truth. I’m sitting here talking with my 2 year old grandson and he has a better mentality than Mary & Jerry both put together. I don’t know ddrb, its really a waste of time talking to those dipshits. If you put both of their brains on a razor blade it would look like 2 peas racing down a 4 lane highway. As far as I’m concerned with the bullshit they preach, they are no better than the terrorists we are at war with. SEND THOSE ASSHOLES TO IRAQ.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 12:12 PM
Hit Me - I don’t think it was a rock, I think it was your mother and you need to tell that cow to lose some weight.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 12:15 PM
Stan: Ken V and Screwed are irreplaceable! And for the record,Sick of Walmart is far more dynamic than me,in addition to actually having labored inside the Belly of the Beast....my neighborhood is located under its the tail.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 12:50 PM
P.S.: Delete “THE” ,as in under its the tail.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 12:53 PM
“Does this mark the end of the “Screwed/Ken V era”?
Stan G in
Monday, November 26 at 12:02 PM
In your dreams “Stan”...or are you really Duh Donald?
ScrewedbyWal-Mart in Anytown, America
Monday, November 26 at 01:00 PM
Sick of Wal-Mart—yes you should be barred because of your “potty mouth” postings! I believe you are perfectly entitled to write your opinions and intelligently debate oposing ones, but filthy language does not impress anyone and you thus lose your point. Till you clean it up “dude” I vote in favor of barring you!
Now as to not having the complete facts (does that make you telling a falsehood (lie)? I raised some questions about your friends business (read all the above posts) and you neglected to answer. I think I could catch you in a “fib"(?)
in you did answer.
You also made a remark about WM telling alie and thus your unemployment did not go to court. What do you mean by court? In most states the “court” is after all of the administrative hearings. So are you sure you are correct on this point?
Might add and ask if you are familiar with various state and some federal laws, as to why any corporation does invoicing in such a manner to the stores in its district and then how the WM stores transmits the money, and then to whom?
In most states WM Stores are a freighn corporation, is this also true of the state where you reside?
I will close out with this: You critize others for mispelling and we all do it. However my point is this. You have absolutely NO WRITING SKILLS OF SUBSTANCE, for if you did you would never write just one long paragrah with juggling of the different points.
Have a great day otherwise, Sick of, pray to my (our) Lord for inner peace and love of your fellowman.
The Sage in
Monday, November 26 at 01:16 PM
Gary L. Wickert—what kind of lawyer are you that you wont answer the question that I posed to you, as to your relationship with Wal-Mart? Any asture and learned member of the bar should not be ashamed of the clients they represent, etc.
Why did you post the link to your firm’s website? To merely indicate how “big” you were in the subrogation business?
I am not an attorney Gary but I have followed and studied law for over 40 years and have found lawyers to just seem to look down of the rest of us. Now prove me wrong and answer the question—who put you up to this site?
The Sage in
Monday, November 26 at 01:23 PM
Sage in: Go on over to the thread about WalMart’s Moral Bankruptcy (A couple of threads back), and read my last post,1:23 P.M.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 02:05 PM
P.S. Sorry,that should have read 1:57 P.M.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 02:08 PM
The Ultimate Low-Life!
Ya ever heard of Google, Sage? After you’ve finished reading all about Gary L. Wickert, I’m sure you’ll see why he little people like you don’t concern him.
Hey-- here’s a newsflash for you! It isn’t only lawyers that “look down on you.” You gotta be some low-life if a lawyer looks down on you.
ScrewedbyWal-Mart in Anytown, America
Monday, November 26 at 04:48 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - I have to admit, that you are right, to a point, the DC’s do ‘make money’ on PAPER, for financial accounting, for tax purposes, but, in actuallity, they don’t MAKE ‘CASH’ money.
And, because you don’t know the FMLA laws, doesn’t mean I’m wrong and you are right, I had to deal with these laws for about 5 years, so maybe I know a little bit more than you do.
You say mary and I live in our own little worlds, but the truth is, we live in the REAL world and you live in the world of what your mind can think up. As for the facts you seem to rely on, just look at who is producing those facts, ‘anti walmart sites’, what do you expect them to say, walmart is great?
And, when you talk about being Anti-American, you seem to side with people who want to piss on American flag wavers and was ready to dodge the draft. If walmart was ‘bad’ for this country, why are so many intelligent people across the country supporting them? Why do 138 million people shop there every week? Why did walmart make over $1 billion in 1 week at the DC you worked at? Why do people keep buying stock in walmart? Sounds like you are in the minority in this respect.
You speak with opinions, but opinions are like ‘butts’, everyone has one, problem is, you base your opinions on what you think and we go by what is fact, not by union propaganda.
ddrb - We do have concern about walmart ‘associates’, we want them to be able to still have jobs, and just because those jobs don’t pay as much as Costco, doesn’t mean the jobs are ‘slave labor’, that would be like saying that jobs at Toyota, are ‘slave labor’ jobs, because they don’t pay as much as GM or Ford. Your cohorts want to put those ‘associates’ out of work and Screwedby even admits, he doesn’t want to help the ‘associates’, he wants walmart GONE. Think about it, 1.7 million people put out of work and you think the impact would be ‘bad’, if those employees went out for 1 day.
jerry in
Monday, November 26 at 05:48 PM
Sage you truly are the dumbest smart guy on here. I’m really sick of being called a liar by a bunch of idiots like you who think you are superior to everyone else. I don’t a give a damn if you are a lawyer, how good a lawyer you are, or if you are for or against Wal-Mart, I think you are nothing more than a self worshiping glory hound. You treat me as if I don’t know my friend or my own unemployment situation, maybe you should just tell all of us here about our lives since you are all knowing and all seeing. As far as my friend, I told you the information that he gave me, maybe theres more I didn’t ask and at this point I really don’t care. No matter how much info there is, the point is WM screwed over a very good person and cost him lots of money but that doesn’t matter to you people. As for my unemployment I guess you know more about that also SAGE. I was told by my caseworker that there wouldnt even be a hearing because WM lied about some paperwork. Why don’t you tell us the details SAGE since you know more about it than anyone else. I got my unemployment without a fight, thats what I know and its because WM lied, thats all I need to know. As for my potty mouth, its stupid assholes like you that bring that out in people so you should feel proud of yourself. You think I care if I get banned from this stupid ass forum, think again. Reading these completely stupid remarks from idiots like you is getting old anyways. You are an egotistical prick who doesn’t look at anything logically. When I say logically, I mean with human compassion and understanding. You just use your legal bullshit talk and think that makes everything alright. The legal system is never wrong though is it SAGE? Justice is always done and nobody ever gets falsely accused or a criminal never gets let loose? I really don’t want to hear your legal gab because you would probably screw your mother over to win a case in court. You come on here thinking you know the facts for everyones story because of your superior attitude and you make a total ass of yourself. You say you aren’t a lawyer but you have practiced law for 40 years, maybe you should practice being humane for once in your life. You say lawyers look down on us, what the hell do you think you are doing with your holier than thou attitude? You may be smart in a legal sense SAGE and you sure like to point that out but I pity you because as a person, YOU are the failure. I really don’t need someone with false religion telling me to pray, thats contradicting on your part. You judge people and thats wrong as you should know since you also know all about religion. And before you start in on me saying I judge people, remember I’m not the one on here acting like a saint as you do. I have plenty of inner peace, I have my family and thats all I need. As for love of my fellow man, I can’t even believe you stooped so low as to say that because if you ignorant WM groupies had any love for your fellow man you would not support a company that squashes small business people like bugs and has no remorse whatsoever. I love this COUNTRY but I damn sure don’t love the direction its going in and if things don’t change this country is doomed. No I’m not just talking about Wal-Mart but WM is one of the many problems in this country. You and a few of the other idiots on here probably support everything thats destroying this country but you have love for your fellow man......BULLSHIT. I really don’t see how you could have inner peace or even sleep at night for that matter. You talk about my POTTY MOUTH but compared to your lack of humanity my potty mouth is nothing. I will take your words for what they are worth SAGE....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 07:18 PM
Sick of Walmart: I have often wondered,privately,and sometimes in conversations with others,"For the love of God,where is the outrage??"I ,for one,am gratified that some still retain enough of a sense of humanity to FEEL the frustration and SAY something about it,LOUDLY AND CLEARLY .And I ,too,agree that the atrocities and inhumanity being visited upon both American and foreign workers,and consumers,in the race to the bottom(and the bottom line) is far more obscene,demeaning, and infinitely more damaging than the use of “ questionable” language in this context.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 08:27 PM
Jerry Jacques in :"We do have concern for WalMart associates..” Who’s “we”?
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 08:32 PM
Jerry does the stupidity ever end with you? I guess not because you make yourself look more ignorant with every lame ass comment you post. Guess what Jerry, you are getting your facts from sites that support Wal-Mart, what do you want them to do, put down WM? I guess by what you say, WM broke the laws of FMLA with me....thats a great company isn’t it Jerry? I guess the DC’s pays their employees with paper as well don’t they Jerry? Thats funny because I remember getting paid money to work there. Pissing on the flag and being anti-american Jerry, I will leave that to you dumbass WM supporters. Its funny how you accuse me of being anti-american when I’m the one who loves this country, not you. Like the Canadian guy said in his ealier post, Canada would never let WM walk on them as we do. And once again Jerry you do not read things carefully and clearly. I said in an earlier post that I’m sure not everything posted on the anti-WM sites is true but are you saying that none of it is? Yes Jerry thats what you are saying. You are a hypocrite and you contradict yourself way too much. You are just one one of WM’s little puppets that they hire to post positive comments about them. You stand for nothing Jerry, you just sell yourself out for a few dollars. You and your buddy Mary are scum of the earth and you really shouldnt be allowed to live in this country. Would you even be commenting in these forums if WM wasn’t paying you too? I doubt it because you can’t speak for yourself, not intelligently anyway. You are joke Jerry and you are the one thats un-american.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 08:57 PM
ddrb - You know what I think about these loser’s opinions of my language. THEY CAN ALL KISS MY ASS. These pieces of shit know nothing about humanity or being a decent american. They turn everything we say around and twist it into something completely different so they have some ground to stand on. I’m not sure which one is worse at this point but Jerry is probably the most ignorant. He looks at WM websites and gets his information and then downs others for doing the same thing. He is just a complete joke in this forum and I’m positive he is just a WM puppet just as Mary is. I think WM is wasting their money because these two idiots together couldn’t figure out 2 + 2. Neither of them have the common sense God gave a blade of grass.
Sage on the other hand knows the law......BIG DEAL. He likes to flaunt his intelligence on here which just makes him an idiot at best. Wow Sage you know the law, so what. Maybe the rest of us on here don’t know the law like you do does that make us inferior to you? I never claimed once that I knew the laws as you do but I do know human compassion and like someone posted earlier, SINCE WHEN IS IT WRONG TO SHOW HUMAN COMPASSION?
I don’t know ddrb but I think conversing with these fools is a complete waste of time. They have no values or morals and its obvious thats not going to change any time soon. It is funny that these wonderful, intelligent people are so frustrated by my language when this country of ours is changing for the worse more every day. Theres so many important issues that really have meaning but they down me because of my language. Well you know what I say to that.....FUCK THESE LOSERS.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 09:19 PM
Sick of WalMart:The language “issue” plays right into their hands.It gives them a diversionary tactic to use against you,and allows them to avoid really important issues relating to WalMart and THEIR negative business practices and questionable ethics.
ddrb in
Monday, November 26 at 09:38 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - “I guess by what you say, WM broke the laws of FMLA with me....thats a great company isn’t it Jerry?”
Boy, you get dumber and dumber everytime you make a post. You have to ask for an FMLA, did you? If not, it’s your fault, not walmart’s.
“I guess the DC’s pays their employees with paper as well don’t they Jerry? Thats funny because I remember getting paid money to work there.”
And, when you got those checks, did you ever look to see who’s name was on it? Was it the DC’s Plant Manager? Did you ever hear of things like budgets and operating expenses? Corporate issues operating budgets, broken down into catagories, like utilities, payroll, equipment repair, etc., that’s where your paycheck came from, the payroll department of walmart, not the DC’s earnings. Do you know NOTHING about how a business operates?
And, you think you are a true American, because you believe all the B.S. that the unions put out. Sorry, but those same unions are the ones that priced the labor market out of the global market and that’s why jobs are moving out of the goood old U.S.A. and as for those businesses put out of business by walmart, the businesses caused the customers to leave and go to walmart, when they didn’t compete, even my 10 year old grandson knew that. Walmart didn’t steal those customers, they came flocking to the walmart stores on their own, just like they STILL do. I think, that if you actually had a brain and an original thought, you might just be dangerous, but, as it is, you are just annoying.
“You stand for nothing Jerry, you just sell yourself out for a few dollars.”
You don’t know me, so don’t tell me what I do. I’d be willing to bet, I have showed more compassion for people and have shelled out more money helping people than you ever will. Get a little more understanding of how businesses work and a better grasp on economics and maybe people will be willing to listen to you , until then, you know little to nothing.
jerry in
Monday, November 26 at 09:50 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - Show me 1 thing that I have said that came from the walmart website. You asked if I ever worked for walmart, the answer is no, I never worked for a low wage place, I’m smarter than that. I’ve never worked at McDonald’s either, but support their right to exist too.
jerry in
Monday, November 26 at 09:55 PM
Jerry you want to know whats annoying.....THAT ENDLESS COPYING AND PASTING OF OTHER PEOPLES COMMENTS. Also your complete lack of being able to understand things clearly. For the last time, I could not get FMLA because FMLA can only be used for up to 12 weeks in a 12 month period. How damn hard is that for you to understand you stupid fucking retard? I did check into it, thats how I got the information. You are telling me I’m wrong about the FMLA well then you need to go tell WM they are wrong because thats where I got the info. Now it wouldn’t be that your glorious WM could be wrong about something would they. Actually I think in this case WM is right and you are wrong. Face the facts, you are a wannabe know it all but you don’t know jack shit.
As for unions, who gives a shit? Two major factories here where I live packed up and moved overseas and guess what dipshit, neither one of them had a union. These companies move because they can get the work done much cheaper overseas but its all unions fault. Get real you moron. Unions do cause problems sometimes but blaming them for everything is stupid, of course coming from you thats understandable.
You get all your stupid ass statistics from sites that support WM and if you say you don’t, you are a damn liar. I know you are fool if you think you can come in here or anywhere else and tell me or anyone else what we know about about WM especially since you say you have never worked there. If you have never worked there then you shouldn’t act like you know WM inside and out. Of course when youre getting paid to be a puppet I guess it doesnt matter what you know. Don’t tell me how my situation is though Jerry because I lived it you didn’t. You are actually making WM look bad because you are basically saying they lied to me so I will thank you for that......THANKS JERRY. Now remember before you make your next stupid comment:
1. FMLA is 12 weeks - I was off more than that.
2. I did ask WM about the FMLA. - I was given a packet with the FMLA info.
3. I was told by WM that I DID NOT fall into the categories for FMLA.
4. Stop copying and pasting, its annoying.
You say not to tell you what you do because I don’t know you.....thats a good one Jerry. Its funny though that you know me enough to say I know nothing about what I myself experienced. You call me a liar and say I know next to nothing. HMMMMM...Jerry just how is it that you know me so well that you can make those accusations? Wheres your compassion for all the people your trusted WM has stepped on? Did you go help them out? No you didn’t because none of you WM groupies care about those people.
As for me knowing how business works, when did I ever claim to be business man or to know all the components of how a business is ran......NEVER. I do however know a few things about the WM I worked for and its enough to turn me against them. You on the otherhand have no concept of reality. You think all businesses are the same....WRONG JERRY. Some businesses are actually ran different than others. Some are legitimate and some are not. Hell you have worked for several different places, you should know this more than anyone. Myself I have only worked 4 different places in my life and the only one I witnessed any corruption at was......lets see, what was it called......OH YEAH WAL-MART. Maybe there was corruption at the other places I worked but I never witnessed it, if so I would speak out about them. I speak out about WM because I have first hand experience of how they are. You other people seem to know so much about Target, K-Mart, Costco......WELL SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT, WHO IS STOPPING YOU? If you don’t like whats said here about WM, LEAVE....DON’T READ IT, nobody is making you. You arent going to leave though because you are a SHILL aren’t you Jerry? Thats ok, I’m sure you will never admit to it but its easy to see. If you weren’t a shill you would go rant about the other companies that you say are worse than Wal-Mart. Just another puppet Jerry thats all you are and you can’t speak your own mind, only what they tell you. If you felt so strongly about these other companies being worse than WM, you would stop being a WM puppet and speak for yourself.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 10:45 PM
Jerry I should mention one thing. Being a shill, maybe you didn’t get your info from a website, maybe a WM rep just gave it you over the phone or in an email. Either way, its all the same, you got it from WM one way or the other.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 10:48 PM
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/29/business/web-0329walmart.php?d=1
http://www.pbs.org/itvs/storewars/stores3.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/interviews/gereffi.html
Hey ddrb here is some nice FACTS about WM. Of course most or all of this is probably lies according to Jerry & Mary Shiller.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, November 26 at 11:07 PM
I told my self Iwas not going to do is,but Jerry you say you and Mary live in the real world were is that?
Go to SEC page and you can see Wal Mart’s balance sheet then come back and tell us what you saw, that will show us how much you know about business.
Wallstreet in
Tuesday, November 27 at 12:15 AM
Wallstreet - You can bet that Jerry & Mary will come up with some kind of illogical BS for everything you say as its apparent by their comments in these forums. I think they have a hotline straight to a WM rep so they can call and ask them what to say.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 01:31 AM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - So, I never worked for walmart, but I’m getting paid by walmart to post here, right? Wouldn’t that be considered working for walmart?
I will try to explain it once more for your little mind, you said you had arthritis and the doctor suggested ‘light duty’, arthritis is for life, I know, I have it, did you expect to stay on ‘light duty’ for life? If you were going to be off for more than 3 months (12 weeks), that would not be temporary ‘light duty’, but a permenant condition, companies don’t give ‘light duty’ for life, therefore walmart realized that your condition was permenant and therefore refused to put you on ‘light duty’ and also FMLA. You say that you know little about business, yet claim that you somehow know what goes on at walmart, because you worked there. Well, most businesses DO run them much the same, when it comes to payrolls and other things, because they are mandated by tax laws. Like I said before, as an employee, you saw only what you wanted to see and reasoned things based on how they affected you, if you got a raise, it was ‘good’ walmart, but if they changed your schedule, it was ‘bad’ walmart. You never reasoned as to why they did what they did, only how it affected you personally.
As for unions, they set the standards for pay and benefits across the board and helped put laws in place that affected ALL businesses, union or not.
All that I say, has basis on what I have seen and learned during my life, no one had to tell me to say them, I call them as I see them, when someone says something stupid, based on things they have little knowledge of. I worked in management and have seen things from both sides of the fence. As for places like Target, K-mart and quite a few other retailers, walmart beats them in pay and benefits. I know people who work at walmart and Target and they don’t feel about walmart, they way you do, maybe it’s just the DC you worked at and the people running that DC.
But, let’s say you are right about everything you said, what are you going to do about it? Can anything you say, make people believe that walmart is ‘bad’ and they should stop shopping there? Would it be a ‘good’ thing for the employees, if sales fell off? Do you think that walmart is really going to change, because YOU or WMW want them too? People seem to forget, that a business is there to ‘serve the customer’, not the employees, without the customers, you have no business and the employees have no jobs. And, it has been shown time and again, that even with a large turnover, it’s business as usual with the ‘new’ employees. It doesn’t require a ‘rocket scientist’ to put a box of toilet paper on a conveyor or in a trailer.
jerry in
Tuesday, November 27 at 01:41 AM
To Sick of WM, that we readers are sick of his “potty mouth” and he should be barred until he cleans it up.
Your post of Nov 26th # 7:18pm you wrote that I was “a lawyer” and made that implication. I never did say I was a lawyer, but I said I have studied it for years. Ok, now you understand, so what you wrote was not actually a lie, but we will call it a fib.
Your tirade went on and on and to hard to read all in one paragraph, but I did notice you never answered the questions I raised. I will say you did answer one in that you now called it an “unemployment hearing” and not the “court” reference you made earlier. I guess this was a typo and not a mis-statement of fact.
Yes once again I ask our Lord to give you some inner peace for you do need it. Just have an intelligent debate no need to use foul language. Fowl is to be eaten, not spoken, or written. (Sorry but I am acting superior once again!!!!)
The Sage in
Tuesday, November 27 at 02:14 AM
Jerry.....You do realize there are more than one type of arthritis don’t you? Probably not since you have no grasp on reality. Theres a new Eagles song out that reminds me of you Jerry, its called FRAIL GRASP ON THE BIG PICTURE. I don’t consider shilling working so I guess we have a much different point of view on that. You take money to praise a company you know nothing about, thats not working, thats pathetic.
You know I’m really tired of your weak BS about the FMLA. You do realize that FMLA pays nothing right? On light duty I would have gotten a paycheck Jerry but not on FMLA. I have a family to take care of so I asked for light duty for just 30 days......1 MONTH JERRY. I had to take physical therapy and the doctor suggested light duty for 30 days. Now lets see, is 30 days too much to ask for when I had worked there for 8 years......I DON’T THINK SO. You on the other hand probably think WM was right because like I said before, you have no human compassion, you just say what WM wants you to say. I know why they didn’t want me to have light duty, because they wanted me out like they do anyone who gets an injury or illness. I’ve seen it time and time again. They don’t care about the employees Jerry, they just don’t want to have to help any employee with medical expenses. WM doesn’t do the right thing because they don’t care.
As for someone not shopping at WM because of anything I say......I DON’T CARE JERRY. Its completely obvious that people are going to shop there no matter what WM does because they might save a few dollars but they are also showing a complete disregard for this country because WM is trying to destroy all that this country stands for. Small businesses are being ruined by WM and if you don’t believe that then you are even more ignorant than I thought. You say maybe its just the DC I worked at, are you serious? I can’t believe you actually said something that stupid. I guess the DC I worked at is the cause of all the other horror stories about WM too.....COME ON JERRY GET A CLUE. I really don’t give a damn about your business talk because you have never worked for WM and as far as I’m concerned that makes you clueless. You get your info from elsewhere and then you act like an expert on WM business practices. You know, I have other stories about WM that I know to be true but I’m not even going to mention them because you shillers are just not going to listen so I’m not going to waste my time. I really don’t care how the people you know feel because I know many people who feel the same way I do. Some of them have worked at Wal-Mart and some of them have done business with Wal-Mart and least they were smart enough to see the truth. And no Jerry I didn’t tell them how to feel about Wal-Mart, they unlike you can think and see things for themselves.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the Wal-Mart is bad for our country either but you haven’t figured it out yet. Hell even other countries know WM is bad for our country but we just continue to let them grow and walk all over us. Its people like you Jerry who continue to help build the beast and I have no doubt that some day you will regret it or at least I hope you do. If you and all the other WM groupies cared about this country or had any respect for small business owners and any other people WM has stepped on, you wouldn’t support WM. Its obvious you don’t care. SOMEDAY YOU JUST MIGHT.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 02:45 AM
To Sage - Some of us are sick of your superior attitude and we think you should be banned until you figure out that you are no better than the rest of us just because of your intelligence. Flaunting ones intelligence is a trait that should not be tolerated in these forums.
Sage - Give it a rest. Talk is cheap and I wouldn’t give 2 cents for anything you have to say. Like I said, you may have legal knowledge but I would love to know how that makes you superior?
Heres another paragraph for you Sage: I never lied or told a fib, you come on here with all your legal talk acting like a lawyer so the only mistake I made was that I assumed you were a lawyer. Forgive me for making a mistake, we can’t all be perfect like yourself. TO ERR IS HUMAN, TO FORGIVE DIVINE
Heres another paragraph for you Sage: I think you making a big deal out of me saying court instead of court hearing is just completely senseless and childish none the less. If you can’t come up with something better than that you should just shut up.
Heres another paragraph for you Sage: If you think I care about being barred off this forum you are sadly mistaken. I welcome someone to bar me.....BIG DEAL. I will not clean up the way I talk on here so they can bar me for life, I don’t give a shit. Request it all you want, I hope your request is granted.
Heres another paragraph for you Sage: Its not my fault if you have a problem understanding words that are not put into paragraphs for you. The problem is that you don’t take time to understand anything other than what you want to understand. I thought it senseless to take my time and put everything into paragraphs because then you idiots would have just came up with something else to complain about that makes absolutely no sense.
Heres another paragraph for you Sage: Once again I don’t need you asking OUR LORD JESUS to do anything for me because I don’t trust your religion. Anyone with true religion would not act superior over his fellow man like you do. Maybe you have intelligence but flaunting it is an ugly thing. You know, regardless of what you think, I’m not stupid. I graduated on the A honor roll but instead of going to college I worked to help my parents because my mother had cancer. I could have went to college but I feel like I done the right thing and I have no regrets. You assume that because I know very little about legal issues that I know nothing well you go ahead thinking that way.
Heres another paragraph for you Sage: I think if I didn’t have inner peace, I would not have a happy, healthy family life but guess what, I do. I don’t understand how you can ASSUME I have no inner peace just because I speak my mind. I will continue to speak my mind because if I’m not mistaken, I have freedom of speech which allows me to do that. I really don’t care if any of you are offended by my language because if you go back through the comments you will see that Jerry, Mary, and yourself all offended me first. I was telling what happened to me and a friend of mine but I got called a liar by all of you. Everything I said was true but none of you would listen. So you see Sage I retaliate when I feel I need to. None of you had the right to call me a liar but you know what, I really don’t care. And as you will also see, the foul language never started until I got called a liar. I will handle things my way and not the way you people wish for me to. You speak of intelligent debates but when I’m called a liar I’m going to go off and like I said, if any of you are offended maybe you should think about that before you call someone a liar......especially someone you don’t know.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 03:33 AM
You’ve pretty much had your baptism by fire, Sick of Wal-Mart. Welcome to WMW.
Judging by your style I’d guess you have some chat/message boarding in your past. Although this is called a blog, the only blog is above the blue COMMENT bar. Down here, we comment on the blog or other comments so we’re really a message board. As such, you will recognize some familiar characters. Trolls, flamers, the whole nine yards.
I hope you stick around and remember, you can take or leave whatever parts you want. You’ll notice how good some posters are at sidetracking.
(You might want to pick up a few basic HTML tags.)
“There are a lot of issues here, but what they add up to is the end of the age of Wal-Mart,” contends Richard Hastings, a senior analyst for the retail rating agency Bernard Sands. “The glory days are over.”
Ken V in Texas
Tuesday, November 27 at 04:35 AM
You’ve pretty much had your baptism by fire, Sick of Wal-Mart.
Be sure and turn out the light when you leave!
Buh-bye!
Sick and tired of Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 04:41 AM
Sick of Wal-Mart in-
Don’t make the mistake of thinking ‘Sage’ is a Christian or represents the person, personality or identity of Jesus Christ. I have reviewed ‘Sage’s’ material here for most of this year and have found him to be a fraud peddling the not too subtle and subservient tunes of the WalMart worship hymnal.
WalMart/Edelman- We hire ‘war room’ frauds, shills, trolls etc to evade moral seriousness about WalMart on the internet.
Ron Paul wants to legalize currently illegal narcotics to the U.S. population.
Ron Paul for president~ Sage and Charles Manson
SanDiegoView in WalMart/Edelman are internet frauds at best
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:15 AM
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
WalMart- If only we could sell Afghani heroin on behalf of legitimate Islamic business men.
SanDiegoView in
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:30 AM
sick of your favorite expensive retailers and union grocers have gotten govt assistance when they built their stores and numerousother places have cheated on their taxes.funny you dont bitch about that.who the hell does walmart pout out of business bucko?they dont put anyone else out of business.the others put themselves out of business with their riddiculous assinine prices.if they want to stay in business then lower their goddam prices then instead of bitching about walmart.sick of how come you dont raise the same bs argument about dollar tree,big lots ,grocery outlet stores and the other low costs stores and retailers and their low prices killing the economy and putting everyone else out of business and ruining property values in the area?i am waiting for your answer on that one because most walmart haters cant answer that.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Tuesday, November 27 at 07:39 AM
“Go to SEC page and you can see Wal Mart’s balance sheet then come back and tell us what you saw, that will show us how much you know about business. “
A = L + OE
Anything else you would like to know Wallstreet?
“As for my potty mouth, its stupid assholes like you that bring that out in people so you should feel proud of yourself”
Now that’s a classic line of ownership if I have ever seen one.
mary in
Tuesday, November 27 at 09:25 AM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - I never called you a LIAR, I just said you may have misunderstood your options and the way the system works. You are the one who went off in a tirade about how I didn’t know how walmart works. Also, you are under a false impression, if you think I get paid by walmart to post here (I wish, I could use the money) and where I get my information.
You have a short fuse and should learn to control it. As for your having inner peace, I think they call that ‘Bliss’ and remember, ignorance is bliss.
I hope they don’t ban you, because you show the level of intelligence of the anti walmart people, “I feel like I done the right thing”, for example.
jerry in
Tuesday, November 27 at 12:17 PM
To Sick & Tired - I have nothing more to say to you other than I know you are one of the other idiots under another screen name.....GROW UP.
San Diego View - VERY NICE POST.
Matthew - First off, why is it that Sage runs his trap about me not using paragraphs but you don’t even know the english language and he says nothing about that. You don’t use caps, spaces, and you damn sure can’t spell. Also you used foul language so its obvious that you WM groupies stick together and its alright for you to use foul language. Your post is so terrible that I shouldn’t even acknowledge it....BUT I WILL. Why do I bitch about WM and not the others??? Well Matthew I feel its a general rule of thumb to go after the big dog on the totem pole. Why should I bitch about Target, K-Mart or any other retailer when WM is the main source of corruption in the retail business? Whats the percentage of horror stories for WM compared to the others? No I’m not saying they are all true but you idiots think they are all lies. We all have choices to make and my choice is to be anti-WM because I feel strongly in my convictions. Now my question to you Matthew. If you hate the other retailers so much, why are you on here instead of starting your own web site to hate on them? I mean you come on a WM web site to bitch about K-Mart, Target, etc, etc....WHY? Could it be that you are just another SHILLER (its a good possibility)? If you think WM has not put many small businesses out of business Matthew then your ignorance goes way beyond your inability to spell. Everybody on WMW being for or against WM knows without a doubt that WM has put alot of small businesses out of business. Now admitting you know that is another thing but you all know it.
Mary Shiller - You are a complete and total idiot. I guess thats about all I have to say about that.
Jerry - Yes you did call me a liar because I tried to explain to you what I was told by WM about the FMLA and you just wouldn’t have it. You ranted on about FMLA to the point of where I almost changed my ID to “SICK OF JERRY & HIS FMLA BS”. The thought never once crossed your mind that WM would do anything wrong or illegal. No its all me, I misunderstood everything that WM ever done or said didn’t I jerry? Well I guess when WM lied to try and keep me from getting unemployment I misunderstood that too.....NO WAIT, they were caught so I guess maybe WM misunderstood the laws governing the unemployment office. Somehow I’m sure you WM groupies will justify that for WM too. Or you will say I’m lying about it. As you can see, you groupies are easy to read, alot of us know what your next comments are going to be before you post it because its basically going to be something stating or justifying how great WM is and telling the rest of us we are either lying or misunderstanding everything. I will just go ahead and keep my impression that you are nothing but a low life SHILLER because you are and most of us know that. Now about my inner peace, it seems you are saying its ignorant to have inner peace, why is that Jerry? Are you jealous because you have none. If I had made thats statement about inner peace and bliss as you did, I would be catching tons of flack over it but I bet Sage, Mary or none of your other buddies say a word about you saying it. That was truly the most ignorant comment I’ve seen yet. If ignorance is bliss, you are the most blissful person I’ve ever talked to.
Now Jerry about my short fuse, you are about to see it get shorter. When I said “I feel like I done the right thing” I clearly stated that I did not go to college because my mother had cancer and I worked to help my parents out. RIGHT THING refers to me helping my parents not anything else. Now let me tell you what you son of a bitch, you may not care enough about your parents that you would have done that for them, but I happen to care about mine. You can say all you want about me or my hate for WM but this forum is not the place to put me down for helping my parents instead of myself. You want to discuss that issue with me then lets get together face to face and discuss it. You want to put me down for making that decision, then you should be banned from here you fucking little bitch. That just goes to show what I’ve been saying......YOU HAVE NO HUMAN COMPASSION. You care about 2 things in this world WM and yourself. The only reason you even care about WM is because they pay you to preach their bullshit all over the internet you piece of shit loser.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 01:44 PM
Sorry Mary wrong, just a hint did you look at the holding companies, can you see the fuzzy math that you hear about?
Wallstreet in
Tuesday, November 27 at 03:06 PM
Since this blog is so off topic, I will go ahead and answer a couple of points raised in the above various posts.
Sick of WM—there is no point in trying to have a dialogue with you, as you never objectively answer and come back with some other “gobble-de-gook”. I will agree with you only on one point: that is I also believe Matthew should clean up his words and as I stated to others, that language proves nothing. Regardless who starts it. In a neighborhood bar I once owned—there was a sign that had been there for years “Profanity is a weak mind trying to express itself” The adage is so true.
SDV—since you have reviewed my material and “have found me to be a fraud peddling the not too subtle and subservient tunes of the WM worship hymnal”.
Now for once please, please explain how I have been found to be a fraud (even by you). Give me one example. I will make a bet with you, if you can Iwill donate $l00.00 to WMW and if not you donate $l00.00 to a children’s charity of my picking. I challenged you once before and you slithered away.
Another bet if you want to make it—show me one quote of Dr. Ron Paul (running for president) that states what you quoted “Ron Paul wants to legalize currently illegal narcotics to the U.S. population”.
Back up what you post. I will thank you in advance if you will or can.
The Sage in
Tuesday, November 27 at 04:58 PM
Is this the fortuitous time to resurrect my WalMart Watch (WMW)World’s Federation wrestling team( from the archives?Remember that one RDS,Duh Donald, Jerry Jacques,etc.)?Hey,we could have tag teams,and as a special added attraction- ladies’mud wrestling( Ken’s suggestion.) The grand finale could announce the results of the Sage vs. SDV “ smackdown “challenge. Folks, now we could sell tickets for this Davids vs. Go-lie-th event!!
ddrb in
Tuesday, November 27 at 05:15 PM
Sick of WalMart: If ignorance is bliss,Jerry has 3rd degree “blisters.”
ddrb in
Tuesday, November 27 at 05:21 PM
“Mary Shiller - You are a complete and total idiot. I guess thats about all I have to say about that.”
I know, I know Sick of Walmart. It’s truly hard to have any commen sense words to say when all i hear is profanity, while blaming it on others, in addition to the lies and half-truths and nonsense you speak of. But so is the life of a man living a life of hatred.
Wallstreet, the only “fuzzy math” I see is the crap that Sick of Walmart posts about how a DC MADE 1 BILLION DOLLARS IN A DAY.
mary in
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:16 PM
I just wanted to say that some of you really need to learn facts before you speak. I owned a small hardware store that was in my family for many generations and walmart put me out of business when they moved into my town. I’m not going to come on this site and put down anyone or anybody but facts are facts. I feel my prices were very reasonable and allowed me to make a profit which is a neccessity when owning any business.
I put myself in Gods hands and fortunately He has taken care of me so I am blessed but I still feel very strongly that walmart is not at all good for the future of our country
I don’t condone the use of foul language but I do support you ddrb, sandiego, ken v & sick of walmart.
Concerned Citizen in
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:30 PM
WalMart might have had a legal responsibility to communicate with these victims in a more timely manner so that their claim could be included in the settlement. By failing to do so, contributory negligence or something like that perhaps (I’m no lawyer) they make have by thier silence voided their contract with the victim. If she had known before the serttlement she could have included all the original medical costs in her settlement, so Walmart’s negligence is what prevented that. Just a theory. At the very least, WalMart sucks and I make it a point of avoiding going anywhere near there for anythign at all.
Bob Ross in Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:49 PM
Mary it is way too obvious that you are nothing but a shiller. As for common sense.....WHERE IS YOURS? You come on these forums and say what Wal-Mart wants you to say, you are a low life sell out. You expect me to be rational when you are sitting there calling me a liar............FUCK YOU ,YOU STUPID BITCH. I tell the facts and you tell what WM pays you to tell. You are weak and pathetic.
Full of hatred....who the hell are you talking about? I have plenty of love for this country and the people I care about. I don’t give 2 shits about your sorry ass or any piece of shit that just wants avoid the facts and call all the anti WM people liars. Big deal I use profanity but you think you are so much better when you are on here calling people liars. When you call someone a liar and you don’t know for a fact that they are lying, what does that make you?..................HYPOCRITE....Thats what.
Here’s my challenge for you little Miss Mary Know It All. Call WM DC #6017 in Seymour Indiana and ask them what their record sales for one day is. I will know if your lying Mary. Of course you can probably get the info from whichever rep is paying you to shill. Now prove me wrong and then call me a liar because I know the truth and you know only what WM wants you to know and tells you to say. I’m really anxious to see what you are going to come up with on this challenge. You will probably just avoid it altogether. If you do check it out you WILL find out I was not lying and then I’m sure you would never admit you were wrong. I mean after all, YOU would never be wrong would YOU?
One reason that I use profanity is that I think its hilarious that you idiots only concentrate on that. Its funny how easily you groupies forget about WM just so you can rant about my language. Its also funny that anyone who puts down WM on here is a liar. All the anti WM people are liars but you worthless shillers always tell the truth. Well hell, maybe you all should be made into SAINTS since you are so perfect. Better yet, make yourself a martyr for WM and jump off of a fucking bridge.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:56 PM
Good job Bob - Stay anti WM
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 06:57 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - Once again, I never said you LIED, I just said you don’t understand how the system works. I notice though, that you say walmart lies about everything.
And, as for putting you down about not going to college and helping your parents, nothing could be farther from the truth, I admire people who would do that. What I was commenting on was your use of the word ‘done’ in that sentence, instead of “did’, but, it went over your head.
You keep talking about compassion and humanity, but limit it to within our borders, I bet you have little compassion for people in other countries around the world and could care less if they are starving and have no jobs, as long as people here live the life styles that allow them to have all the comforts available. Then, you mention that I have a FRAIL GRASP ON THE BIG PICTURE (Eagles song), but it seems your big picture is of the U.S., while mine is of the Planet Earth. You claim we are losing jobs to foreign workers, yet, our unemployment is at a low 4.6%, (5% is considered FULL EMPLOYMENT). And, it seems your walmart job was okay, for 8 years, now walmart sucks. If they had put you on light duty, you probably wouldn’t be complaining at all and still working there.
And, the reason I care about walmart, is that I care about the ‘free enterprize system’ and customers making the decision as to if a business continues to exist or not. Just like those small businesses you care so much about, if they had provided the things that customers wanted, they would still be in business. Let walmart stand or fall, based on customer wants and you will hear nothing more from me. But, twisting the truth and making up falsehoods in order to get people to be against walmart, is just plain wrong. Who pays you to post here, WMW?
By the way, where did you get that Eagles album?
From “Long Road Out Of Eden” (Eagles), “Weaving down the American highway, through the litter and the wreckage and the cultural junk, BLOATED WITH ENTITLEMENT; loaded on propaganda and now we’re driving dazed and drunk”.
jerry in
Tuesday, November 27 at 07:53 PM
mary - Had Sick Of Wal-Mart said, “We moved $1 billion worth of merchandise out the door in one day”, he would get no arguement from me, but to say “they MADE $1 billion”, is the sticking point.
jerry in
Tuesday, November 27 at 08:05 PM
Jerry
1. I never said WM lies about everything but they do lie regardless of what your one sided mind thinks.
2. Where did I claim we are losing jobs to foreigners? I feel we are but I’ve never mentioned that. It is fact that all the foreigners and illegal immigrants coming into this country is raising the crime rates and taking some jobs away from Americans. If you say this isn’t so then you’re a fool. Four college students were just shot execution style a month or 2 ago.....BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. The terrorist attacks from 9/11 were by foreigners living and working in this country. Now if you support letting these people live in this country then thats sad and I’m sorry for you.
3. I worked at WM for 8 years....BIG DEAL JERRY. I’m really sick of hearing you say that, that has already been established. Would I still be working there if they had put me on light duty.....NO....but thats beside the point and another story which I’m not even going to go into with you people just so you can turn it into something it isn’t. WM done wrong by me and thats the way I feel. Nothing is going to change the way I feel. They have done other people wrong too and thats been proven in court. Yes I’m sure some employees are happy being employed by WM, good for them but they may someday get treated wrong as well, right now that remains to be seen until it happens.
4. Twisting the truth and making up falsehoods Jerry....isn’t that the same as lying?......but then you never called me a liar, once again you contradict yourself. You say what WM wants you to say to turn people on to WM. I state the facts in MY case and I don’t really care if anyone listens and turns against WM or not. WM turns people against them all the time by their own actions. Yes several people I know do not shop at WM anymore because of the way I was treated. Most of them are family and friends but I never asked one of them to stop shopping there.
5. I would never stoop so low as to be a shiller either for or against any company. I think its low life tactics and it should be made illegal.
6. You can bet your ass I never got my Eagles cd at WM. Thats not the only place to get it regardless of what WM or any ad says. If you think I would buy from WM you need to think again. Only you WM groupies and shillers would even bring up the question of where I got it and believe me, I knew one of you would ask, I’m just surprised it took so long.
7. Words from the DC manager Bob Tabeling at a general meeting with the employees....."I’m happy to announce that we broke the record for SELLS over a one day period. The day after Thanksgiving our building alone made over 1 billion dollars”. Now maybe you should call DC #6017 and tell them they are lying because thats basically what you are saying.
8. Its sad there are people starving in other countries, especially children but guess what Jerry......theres people starving right here in this country. Out of all the television shows I’ve seen about starving children I’ve yet to see one that is filmed in the USA. I have compassion for all people that are starving but I can’t see how we can help other countries and then just bypass our own country. Alot of the people in foreign countries just keep having children and those children suffer. Why don’t they use birth control? I see nothing wrong with any organization helping feed starving people but it should begin at home, right here in the USA. Why can’t these organization feed the starving here in this country?
Heres some lyrics for you Jerry and this song goes out to you, Mary and anyone else in your little group.
SEETHER - FAKE IT
Who’s to know if your soul will fade at all,
The one you sold to fool the world.
You lost your self esteem along the way.
Yeah.
Good god, You’re coming up with reasons.
Good god, You’re dragging it out.
Good god, it’s the changing of the seasons.
I feel so raped,
so follow me down.
And just fake it, if you’re out of direction.
Fake it, if you don’t belong here.
Fake it, if you feel like infection.
Woah, You’re such a fuckin’ hypocrite.
And you should know that the
lies won’t hide your flaws.
No sense in hiding all of yours.
You gave up on your dreams along the way.
Yeah.
Good god, You’re coming up with reasons.
Good god, You’re dragging it out.
Good god, it’s the changing of the seasons.
I feel so raped,
so follow me down.
And just fake it, if you’re out of direction.
Fake it, if you don’t belong here.
Fake it, if you feel like infection.
Woah, You’re such a fuckin’ hypocrite.
Woah, Woah
You’re such a fuckin’ hypocrite
Who’s to know if your soul will fade at all,
The one you sold to fool the world.
You lost your self esteem along the way.
Yeah.
Good god, You’re coming up with reasons.
Good god, You’re dragging it out.
Good god, it’s the changing of the seasons.
I feel so raped,
now follow me down.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, November 27 at 09:20 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - First off, I have no problem allowing foreigners into this country, as long as they are legal, think about it, unless you are an American Indian, your ancestors were foreigners. What I do have a problem with, is how the ‘bleeding heart’ liberals, seem to gloss over the term ‘illegal’ and demand that those immigrants be treated better than our own citizens, welfare, healthcare, driver’s licenses, etc., and forget all about deportation or arrest. But, it is my view, that if you give opportuntities for a better life in THEIR countries, they might just STAY there.
I was not referring to you, when I said things about falsehoods and twisted truths, I was talking more about the articles here and people like Screwedby and SanDiegoView.
And, believe it or not, I don’t really care, but I don’t get paid by walmart or anyone else to post here and do not say what anyone wants me to say.
Now, as for the starving people here at home, it is my belief, that if we help the world population get better off, in the end, it will help ALL people to be better off. If people in other countries get the financial ability, they will be able to buy things from this country, so they can live the lives we all strive for. A rising tide, lifts all boats.
Now, lastly, I refuse to “follow you down”, my hopes and dreams have an ‘upbeat tone’, not a ‘negative tone’, I’m for ‘building up’. not ‘tearing down’. I know it’s a pipe dream, but I would like to see a world, where everyone gets along, no more wars, and people living in harmony, it may never happen, but, I’m willing to give it a try. Remember when we used to ‘hate’ the Russians and how much that cost our country?
And, as for terrorists, remember the Oklahoma City bombing, that was done by born and bred Americans.
jerry in
Wednesday, November 28 at 12:09 AM
Jerry in
Doggone why did you have to keep posting and then add the Oklahoma City bombing. Sorry but it was not all by the Americans that the media and government led you to believe. I remember reading the day it happened of the two far eastern men who boarded a plane and left OKlahoma.
Do you remember how fast the government tore the building down and how quick they put Timothy McVeigh to death and never completely revealed everything about this event. I don’t know if in our life time we will ever know the truth.
At the time it happened the Southwest Radio Church had a very interesting article and then it never appeared again.
One should never post information seemingly as fact when it might be or is false.
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 28 at 12:34 AM
My belief is that the Oklahoma City bombing did involve foreigners. Timothy McVeigh may not have even been guilty but if he was I’m sure he had some helpers from another country.
My wife is Cherokee so yes I understand that the indians were here first and I do not consider indians as foreigners so I welcome them to live in this country. I think the indians definitely got mistreated by the white man but like slavery, those days are long gone.
As for other countries, I don’t feel its my responsibility to make those places better to live in because its never going to happen. I mean look at the violence in those countries, thats all they do is kill each other. They are always at war over something and they are completely brutal. They seem to live for brutality such as beheading, burning people alive, etc, etc. Not to mention, alot of those countries are just terrorist breeding grounds. The cold hard fact is that we need to keep them out of this country so that we have a safer place to live and raise our children. That may seem harsh but its the truth. I mean keeping the foreigners out won’t by far make this country 100% safe but it would be a major factor in making this country a better, safer place to live. Then we have the street gangs that need dealt with, with an iron fist. I’m all for capital punishment when these gang bangers do a drive by and kill a child. They have no value for human life and no remorse at all. It should be a mandatory life imprisonment if you are caught with any kind of gang association but as it is, these gang members don’t care to serve a few years in the pen. Make it life and I bet they start caring. Too many gang members get away with murder, trafficking narcotics and weapons and other crimes too numerous to mention. Thats why laws should be passed outlawing the very existence of street gangs.
I’m not racist by no means but if these foreigners keep coming to the U.S we are going to see much worse times than we ever imagined. I’m sorry there countries are in such turmoil but as the saying goes “You can’t help those who won’t help themselves” and instead of even trying to help their own country, they migrate to the U.S. Sure theres some who try to make things better but not enough. Maybe it seems selfish of me to be more worried about this country but this is where my kids and grandkids are going to grow up to me, they come first.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 28 at 01:33 AM
Each of the men from 911 were here on expired visas. And nobody could locate them to send them back home. That’s why we need tighter controls on foreign visitors. We need to know what they doing and with whom and make sure their happy butts go home when they are done.
Those two from Okla City were from militias and hate groups like the Neo-Nazis which we are also trying to identify and stamp out as terrorist organizations.
Now onto the Mexicans. This is very simple.
They are crossing into our country illegally and helping others cross over illegally as well. With them come more drugs and crime in the form of gang activity. Not to mention the brothels that are popping up full of girls as young as 12 sold into sexual slavery. And then, when they’re caught they just disappear back into Mexico or where ever they came from. But wait, once the heat dies down they’re right back with a new name. They also destroy property like fences when they cross. This endangers livestock and ranchers’ livelihoods. But if you try to protect your land, you are the one in the hotseat. And it’s not even safe crossing over. Hundreds of people, especially children, die trying to do this from heat exhaustion and dehydration.
The illegals are not here to become citizens and to integrate into our culture. They are still loyal to Mexico. They also make no attempt to learn English. Why should they? We’re already changing street and store signs and making government paperwork in Spanish.
And because they are willing to work for less and in substandard conditions they destroy the economy and any hope we have of making employers adhere to safety regulations. Or to make them pay a living wage. They also do not pay taxes, but are the first ones in the welfare line or social security which they have never paid into. But let an American citizen ask for help and you’re told “So sorry, none for you”. And most of the money they make does not stay in our economy because they send it back to Mexico. Not to mention the strain they put on hospitals and schools because we have to pay to treat and teach people who are not supporting the very services they want to use.
Even alot of the ones that are here legally are snakes. I agree that the foreigners should stay in their own countries just we should stay in ours. We don’t need to fix their living conditions, they need to do that or at least show some effort.
P.W. Pasobrio in Texas in
Wednesday, November 28 at 01:48 AM
“Another bet if you want to make it—show me one quote of Dr. Ron Paul (running for president) that states what you quoted “Ron Paul wants to legalize currently illegal narcotics to the U.S. population”.
Back up what you post. I will thank you in advance if you will or can.
“Paul wants to legalize the sale of narcotics, contending that prohibition of drugs is ineffective. “Prohibition doesn’t work. Prohibition causes crime.” He believes that drug abuse should be treated as a medical problem, “We treat alcoholism now as a medical problem and I, as a physician, think we should treat drug addiction as a medical problem and not as a crime.” The Constitution does not enumerate or delegate to Congress the authority to ban or regulate drugs in general.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
Make American more Christian. Get high with Dr. Ron Paul and ‘Sage’. Lawlessness, Libertarian and lost.
Galatians 5: 19-21. The King James word ‘witchcraft’ is actually rendered for pharmacology abuse. Obviously you don’t really know the Bible ‘Sage’. Any Christian with the 2 Tim. 2:15 study and understanding knows you are a fraud.
Perhaps your adventures for WalMart in quibbling over the morality of their selling cigarettes. WalMart contributing to America’s lung cancer rate brought no objection from your so called ‘Christian’ credentials. Figures you are into legalizing drug use.
“Now for once please, please explain how I have been found to be a fraud (even by you). Give me one example. I will make a bet with you, if you can I will donate $l00.00 to WMW...”
Sage
Pay up.
SanDiegoView in Ron Paul wants to legalize narcotics
Wednesday, November 28 at 04:31 AM
sick of what a lame reason to bitch about walmart and not the others because they are the top dog?so its ok for costco to sell poisonous toys and put people at risk huh?wrong sick of walmart has not put anyone out of business.the other places put themselves out oif business with their refusal to be competetive and lower their assinine prices thats what you dont get.explain to me sick of why you dont raise the same fuss about dollar tree,big lots,and other low costs retailers and grocers putting others out of business because they take business away from your favorite stores.i wonder why you never bitch about that.oh thats right they are not top dogs thats why.your lame moron reason for picking on walmart.i have a right to be on here.if you dont like it.tough .i am not brainwashed by the govt and ufcw union sir unlike you.walmart is not the corruption leader bucko.its target,costco and the others that sell poisonous toys and cater to the rich...walmart has not put anyone out of business pal.whats so wrong about low prices pal?those places put themselves out of business not walmart buddy.the same crap from china sick of is sold at other retailers too you patronize sir for higher prices.you are too stupid to realize that.dollar tree,big lots and other lowcost places i dont see their low prices putting anyone out of business.the small businesses that sell stuff for unreasonable prices and refuse to lower them sir are to blame when they go under not walmart.i am not ignorant and stupid on that one unlike you on that.i am no shiller either.i know my shit unlike you buster.i worked for k-mart and they pay and treat their workers a hell of a lot worse than walmart has ever done.lower their prices small businesses need to sick of and dont blame walmart when people quit shopping at small businesses because they wont lower their prices sir.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Wednesday, November 28 at 07:16 AM
mv: Hey, Matt,how’s WalMart’s Bank de Mexico doin’ down soutth of the border,down Mexico way?? I haven’t heard of any Bank de Target,have you??Hecho in Mexico-Bank it with Bentonville!!
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 08:54 AM
P.W.Pasobrio and Sick of WalMart: Good Morning, If you gentleman want to see the future face of America,go type in Nafta corridor or Nafta superhighway into Google. The New American website has a superb online article called” Highway Robbery”. It is most excellent and worth a look see. WalMart ,incidentally, is a major player in the new superport being built on the Pacific side of Mexico, thereby rerouting cargo away from Long Beach,California-then trucking it through Mexico on the Nafta super corridor. The “Amero” isn’t far behind,folks. World Net Daily is also quite a knowledgeable and prolific source of info on these matters.
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 09:02 AM
I haven’t heard of any Bank de Target,have you??
The proper name is “Target National Bank”, which is the issuer of both Target’s in-store and Visa cards.
REDcard: Target® Visa® and Target® Card are issued by Target National Bank, an affiliate of Target Stores.
Best to come armed with facts before you start pouncing on people just ‘cuz you disagree with them, dd.
Store Watcher in
Wednesday, November 28 at 10:21 AM
To Matthew The Moron:
1. My first question is what in the hell are you mumbling about? It looks a bunch of chicken scratching.
2. No its not ok for any store to sell poisonous toys you retard and I never said it was so why don’t you make a meaningful point. Guess what stupid? All these stores put the toys on the shelves BEFORE they are recalled. Thats right Matthew, most stores don’t know the future, they don’t have a crystal ball to tell them the toys are going to be recalled so they do not put them on the shelves. Now if you want to argue with ME, why don’t you argue about something that I’VE actually mentioned which is not toy recalls. You do realize that even your precious WM has sold toys that put kids at risk right? So therefore you are putting down Costco and saying its ok for WM. What a hypocrite you are Matthew.
3. You saying WM has not put any small businesses out of business is like me saying you have common sense, its just not true. Hell you moron one poster on here even said WM put him out, can’t you read. OHHHH.....but he is probably just a worthless piece of shit because he wouldn’t (or couldn’t) lower his prices for the likes of you. You act like all small business owners are worthless because of their prices. You know some of them have their prices as low as they can go to stay in business and make a little profit but you just can’t comprehend that with your pea brain. You think they should buy something for $5 and sell it to you for $3....oh how stupid you are Matthew.
4.You ask the same stupid question in every post. WHY DON"T I PROTEST THE OTHER RETAILERS? I’ve answered it more than once, its not my fault if you can’t read and understand things clearly. You have yet to answer my question though Matthew and why is that? You are on here bitching about anti WM people instead of starting your on forum for being ANTI ANY RETAILER BUT WM. If you feel so strongly about the other retailers why aren’t you standing up against them? I will tell you why. Because you are a stupid shiller who stands for nothing.
5. I’m actually glad you are on here, we need a good laugh. I only wonder WHY you are on here and not out somewhere else protesting all the retailers you hate so much?
6. I’m brainwashed by the govt and unions....LMAO....thats hilarious. I’ve never belonged to a union in my life and I can’t stand the way our govt. runs this country. You calling anyone brainwashed is the pot calling the kettle black because you are definitely brainwashed by WM and thats very plain to see. What a joke you are Matthew.
7. You say that you worked for K-Mart and they treat their workers worse than WM does so its safe to assume that you either have or do work for WM. I mean the only way you can make that statement with any actuality is that you have worked for both places so you can compare them. So what is it Matthew, are you working for WM now or have you in the past?
8. I have the right to pick and choose who I am against Matthew and I choose......lets see......WM. Guess what retard, you have the same choice to make and you have chosen every retailer other than WM including all small businesses. My reasoning for hating on WM because they are top dog in retail corruption is not stupid unlike you. Think about it if you can think. Police, FBI, CIA, they set up stakeouts and stings to get the leaders in drug and crime rings. Now what kind of world would this be if the law only went after the drones and never even bothered with the top dogs? You see Matthew it is common sense but you have none so I don’t expect you to understand.
8. Just for the record, I never shop at most of the places that you imply so I’m not going to make false comparisons. I live in a very small town without a big retailer so I do most of my shopping in my town. I’ve never in my life shopped at Costco or Dollar Tree so I’m not even going to argue about those places. Big Lots I have shopped at but its been years ago. I do shop at Target and K-Mart sometimes and thats my choice.
9. Get some new lines Matthew you said the same things over and over in you last remarkably moronic comment. The message could have been 1/3rd of what it was.
10. You are the one brainwashed.....BY WM.....SHILLER.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:11 AM
Are they a bank,in Mexico??
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:11 AM
P.S. : I know that WalMart was denied a banking charter here in the US, and GE Capital handles their(W/M) Credit card services. I am intrigued about Target-but this is not a bank in the sense of loans and daily transactions,right?Only to service Target cards? When I’m not pressed for time,I will take your suggestion to look into this further. Thanks!
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:21 AM
Sick of WalMart (post 11/23 1:33AM) notice how much more intelligent your post read without the filthy words, and was more on target.
SDV (11/28 4:21AM) Again you do a spin on the subject. Wikipedia does not quote exactly what Ron Paul says in its entirety. This is what a poster wrote on their. Go to his library and read exactly then you “might” comprehend.
Witchcraft - pharmocology abuse—I don’t read the interpretation you posture in my Bible. Again you lie when you state that I said something about the morality of WM selling cigarettes. I might have posted it is their right to sell them or not sell them. Surely you do understand the difference between a right to do something and/or what is morally right (in one’s opinion).
I do not smoke and am against smoking, but you have a freedom to do what you want as to smoking. If a business want’s to ban it, that is their decision and they accept the consequences..
You have once again proved SDV that you are the fraudelent character as you only answer that which you want and give it an excellent spin to fit into your perception
You are correct in that the Constitution does not give to Congress the right to make regulations for drugs, etc.
(as this was reserved to the states)
Prove what I orginally posted and I will pay up. Actually I think you should pay up for you didn’t answer the main point in my post. How did you ever learn in school how not to answer something, then twist it. “Shall we all do the Twist”
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:22 AM
Sage in : Am I correc that you stated you once owned a tavern? If so, what was your position on smoking in your establishment?
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:56 AM
BTW: Is winning or losing a “bet” the criterion for donating to these poor souls? Isn’t gambling a no-no, like smoking and drinking??
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 12:42 PM
ddrb - It seems, that one’s opinion on whether smoking, drinking or gambling is wrong or right, depends on which ones a person engages in. If a person drinks, their opinion is, ‘It is okay’, no matter how many people get killed using it. Same thing with ‘illegal’ drugs, if a person uses them, their opinion is that they should be made ‘legal’.
Sick Of Wal-Mart - Ever notice that law enforcement spends more time on ‘speed traps’ than they do on rounding up gang members? There is MONEY in traffic tickets, but no MONEY in catching gang members. Also, ever notice that sentences are getting shorter through plea bargaining? And, that most people on ‘death row’, die from old age? People are not afraid of punishment anymore, because they can ‘bargain’ their way out of it and if not, they get 3 squares a day and live as if they were on vacation, only they can’t leave the resort.
jerry in
Wednesday, November 28 at 02:54 PM
I am intrigued about Target-but this is not a bank in the sense of loans and daily transactions,right?Only to service Target cards?
Correct, dd...but that doesn’t mean Tar-jay couldn’t open a traditional bank branch, if they ever had a desire to do so. They were already grandfathered their coveted ILC charter, which is the “foot in the door” that Reps. Gillmor and Frank feared WM was going after, earlier, this year.
GE Capital handles their(W/M) Credit card services
As well as those of Arkansas-based Dillard’s, JCPenney, and dozens of others.
Store Watcher in
Wednesday, November 28 at 03:17 PM
ddrb in—You are correct in that I posted that I owned a bar and yes we had smoking. Also sold cigarettes from a vending machine for 75 cents and at one time sold a few cigars (they later went out of vogue).
Personally as I previously posted I do not like smoking and since a lot of people didn’t, I had installed a large electronic air filtering system, plus and an ionic plate collecting system so that the air was very clean—I did not have complaints but compliments on the clean air. This cost money but it was worth it.
I am pro-life but can I personally stop a woman from having one—no I can only support programs that inform her as to decision making. Those that know me, will confirm that I am always “preaching” about the consequences of smoking.
My father died of lung cancer from smoking.
If SDV is reading and he is—now see how easy it is to answer a question? Try it sometime!
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 28 at 05:36 PM
Sage - Thanks for the compliment. I agree with you on the smoking issue, it is everyones freedom to do it. Personally I feel that smoking should be made illegal because it is a proven fact that the tobacco companies put addictive toxins in the cigarettes and to me thats no different than any other drug dealer. Myself I’ve never smoked but my wife does and I hate it. I’ve tried different medications to help her quit but she has no willpower so I’m afraid she never will quit. I’m not trying to offend any smokers because I put most of the blame on the tobacco companies but it would be nice to see everyone quit.
Jerry - Yes I agree, our legal system is a mess. I live in a small town and you would not believe the amount of drugs that are in such a small town. We are fortunate enough to not have street gangs and there is VERY rarely a murder here but we have had more than our share of teenage overdoses. One of our main problems is too many crooked police officers and several have been caught but theres more. My nephew is the captain of the police department here and he is in negotiations right now with the FBI and our state police to do an investigation of our city and county police departments. I’m all for stiffer penalties but its like my nephew says, in this town our courts like to let the repeat offenders out of jail so they can be arrested time and time again, thus our city keeps making money off of them. I’m sure alot of towns are the same way. As for the gang members, doing time gains them respect in most cases so they don’t care at all. Hell some of their initiations are doing time or killing someone regardless of who it is. It may sound cold but I myself would love to see a govt. task force that went around and eliminated gangs by any means necessary. A message could be sent that all gangs must be disbanded or they will face the consequences and if they don’t listen then do away with them.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Wednesday, November 28 at 05:47 PM
Sage in: Sounds like being “green and clean” was a win -win for everybody! I am familiar with negative ionization and its health benefits. Hope your investment provided rewards for all. Now, how about that little “ wagering” with SDV??(Personally,I love the scent of a good cigar!)
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 05:49 PM
Sore Watcher:If being armed (with the facts) is required prior to” pouncing”,according to your self appointed edict,Pouncemaster, it appears you are remiss in taking them to task for the the same infraction of which you allege me to be guilty. To what do I owe the honor of this singular attention?
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 06:06 PM
BTW: Your references to the concerns of Barney Frank and Paull Gilmor- Paul Gilmor(R.) passed away on September 5,2007-He was a representative of the 5th Congressional district of the state of Ohio.Prior to going to Washington,he served for two decades in the Ohio state senate. He was on many financial committees,especially dealing with consumer credit. Pouncemaster, if the deceased Representative Gilmor had misgivings about WalMart opening a full service bank-I would say it was worth listening to what that Republican had to say.Go to the home page of Writing on the Wal,and you’ll see a quote from him on the home page.
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 06:25 PM
Sick Of Wal-Mart - There is one big problem in this country, Congress and local governments keep making ‘new’ laws and don’t remove any. Everytime a ‘new’ law is made, that makes something against the law, that was legal before, it creates ‘new’ criminals. Take the seat belt law for instance, before there were seat belts, it was no problem not wearing them, but now anybody not wearing them, is a law breaker and thus, a criminal, doing something illegal. As for the drug thing, it doesn’t help one bit, that people like comedians glorify drug use for children to see, plus, because of the MONEY to be made off the sale of them, in some cases, even the police are involved in sales and distribution. The general public has become accustomed to their use as being acceptable.
I also think it’s funny, that the police can’t seem to catch the gang members, even though the gangs have ‘colors’ and they also can’t find the ‘illegal aliens’, even though they provide welfare and healthcare for them.
One more thing I think would help, is to make criminals serve their ENTIRE sentence, not get 20 years and eligable for parole after 3 years. I’ve even heard of cases where a person killed someone and got 20 years and was out in 7 years, how does that deter someone from killing people, to know they could be back on the street in 7 years?
jerry in
Wednesday, November 28 at 07:09 PM
THANK YOU to Sick of Walmart for your post to Matthew the Moron. He isn’t the brightest bulb. He actually seems perplexed as to why we would be targeting Walmart on a blog against Walmart. I wonder if he goes on WakeupWalmart and spews the same nonsense out of his mouth.
Plus he is wrong, as usual, other retailers like Dollar Tree do get their bad press for selling tainted items from China. Has everyone forgotten the toothpaste with antifreeze in it imported from China?
I’m sure there are blogs out there against other retailers and maybe Matthew should be posting on them if he feels so strongly against the unionized stores. Which is ironic seeing as he says he happens to work for a unionized grocery warehouse. I keep asking why he doesn’t quit his job and go work at Walmart. I mean he can afford to make less money since he shops at Walmart, right...lol?
Corgishepmom in Irrigon, OR
Wednesday, November 28 at 07:50 PM
Jerry in: If i may- As i said in an earlier post,"Fish rots from the head.” I am of the personal belief that children are basically deaf until 21 years of age. They have a far keener sense of vision-what they “see “makes a greater im pression than what you try to tell them. Hence, holding Presidents,CEOS, rock stars, crocked stars accountable is far more instructive BY EXAMPLE,than a “time out” in the corner-with their PC,Blackberry,WiFi,etc.,etc., I bring this up because it goes to the issue of accountability and acceptability. Where is the ultimate example in our political and civic arena? For God’s sake,the President couldn’t even pronounce the other attendees names yesterday!
ddrb in
Wednesday, November 28 at 07:55 PM
ddrb - I see the start of the downfall of our society, when Dr. Spock’s way to discipline children went into effect and parents started going to jail for keeping their children in line. Now, that said, I don’t believe in child abuse, but why is yelling at your child ‘mental abuse’, hurting their little egos. Watching children sassing back at their parents and claiming that “if you punish me I’m calling the police”, makes me wonder how we got that way. Funny thing is, Dr. Spock eventually admitted he was wrong, but that didn’t change things.
jerry in
Thursday, November 29 at 12:31 AM
Thank you Jerry for reminding me of yet another reason why I don’t like to shop at my local Walmart. Screaming, misbehaving little brats throwing tantrums because mommy won’t let them put this or that item in the cart.
Yes, this happens at other stores but less frequently as you see most of the Breeder Vans parked in front of the Walmart!
Walmart SUCKS! in Every damn town, USA
Thursday, November 29 at 02:31 AM
That is just WRONG.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 03:34 AM
Corgishepmom - You are very welcome and might I add, very nice post by you as well, thank you. Matthew is just a shiller, he says what he is told to say. Theres no other reasoning for his actions. Yes you are right, he wants us to come on a WM site and hate on Costco, Target, K-Mart and every other retailer in the USA plus all the small businesses. He is definitely a few cans short of a six pack and I’m sure it would be easier to converse with a dead frog. Keep up the good comments and take care.
ddrb - Great comment as usual. I agree with you, too many parents are using computers, cell phones, blackberrys and other technology to babysit their kids while they go out and do whatever. Whatever happened to the times of families actually sitting at the dinner table to eat together and have a family discussion? It really gets under my skin when music or a movie is blamed for a child committing murder but thats what the parents use for an easy way out. They would never even consider that just maybe bad parenting would have something to do with it. And sometimes I’m sure the kid did have good parents, but its not the fault of a song or a movie, that kid had mental issues in the first place. I prefer rock music myself and I know that it has received the most blame for violent acts by children but thats crap if you ask me. Hell look at rap music, its all about guns, drugs, gangs, and killing but you hardly ever see it get blamed for anything. Thats why I hated Tipper Gore, she was all about protesting rock music and she went after Kiss and AC/DC alot which I never understood. Satanic rock I can understand being protested but for some reason it never is.
Jerry - I agree, congress needs to make a step in the right direction which I don’t think has been done in quite some time. Personally I am against the seat belt laws because it just feels like we are being stripped of more and more of our freedom all the time. I think it should be up to each individual weather or not they want to wear a seat belt or helmet. Seat belts are safe for the most part but there has been deaths caused by them as well which is why we should have the right to make our own choice.
Comedy and rap music very much glorify drugs and drug use which wouldnt be as bad if kids didn’t have access to it but its everywhere and its easy for anyone to get. Its the same with video games. I’m an avid gamer and I like to be able to play games that are only for adults but I admit, its to easy for kids to get hold of these games as well. I’ve actually seen parents buying adult games for their children which doesn’t help matters in the least. I think alot of parents just need to monitor their children better and try their best to keep the children from getting adult rated material. It would be hard to do but possible.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 04:18 AM
...Breeder Vans
Funny, SUCKS!
...parents started going to jail for keeping their children in line.
Have you seen this?
Ken V in Texas
Thursday, November 29 at 04:32 AM
sick of i have a right to be on here.i come on here to stand up for what i believe in and put you walmart haters who are brainwashed by the govt and one selfish labor union ufcw.i stand upp to all the lies and bs you guysclaim on here like walmart puts everyone out of business.wrong the others put themselves out of business by their arrogant refusalt o lower their assinine prices.sick of is too stupid and dumb to realize that and pull his head out of his rear end.why dont i get my own bwebsite to pick on others?because i would rather be on here and put you misinformed folks in their place.sorry i am not short of a six pack pal you are.my stuff is the truth and you know it too.if home depot ,target ,costco or a high cost union grocer came to your town would you be opposed and scream about traffic and livability like you do with wm?of course not.anyone else even if you bring more dam congestion come on down.walmart stay the hell out.typical spoiled rich persons arrogant attitude you have which is why america and the economy are going to hell fast.sick of how about police stop writing so dam many speeding tickets and harrass the shitl out of the drug dealers and gang bangers and curse them out to their faces like they have never been cursed out before?by the way i am not a shiller just a huge walmart supporter and fan and am paid by no one.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Thursday, November 29 at 05:58 AM
Matthew:
Once again you write almost the same comment as you do every time. I would say that you were copying and pasting the same post over and over but this last one had even more misspellings in it.
Okay here we go:
1. Can you and understand things clearly???? If you can, you would know that I have NEVER been a member of any union and I do not back the way our govt. runs this country. You act like WM is our govt but guess what, THEY AREN’T.
2. Show me where I said WM puts EVERYONE out of business Matthew. You won’t find it because I said WM puts some small businesses out of business.....NOT EVERYONE. You not only spell terrible, you take things out of context as well. Of course I’ve noticed that about SOME (not all) WM supporters, they love to twist other posters comments around but you are the worst one for doing that.
3. Its not ASSinine, its asinine. If you are going to use that word in every single post you make, learn how to spell it.
4. You will never, ever put ANYONE in their place so get over yourself. Matthew you are too ignorant to put legos in place so I don’t know how you think you could ever put a person in their place. With your weak and senseless comments, its not going to happen.
5. You seem to be all knowing by saying your STUFF is the truth and I know it. Well Matthew get over yourself because theres only a few things that I KNOW about you and your ability to tell the truth is not one of them. You think all of us anti WM people are liars and you are always right. Has it ever occurred to you that you might be misinformed or that you misunderstood something? Maybe you are just a liar, I don’t know but something is definitely not right with you Matthew. You don’t work for the POSTAL SERVICE DO YOU (thats a shooting waiting to happen)?
6. Would I scream about traffic and livability???? Thats a new one Matthew, forgive me but I can’t find where I mentioned those things. Would you be so kind as to COPY my comment on traffic and livability & PASTE it into your next post because I just can’t find it. My issues with WM have nothing to do with traffic & livability, Matthew you’re so funny, have you ever thought of doing stand up comedy?
7. Would I gripe if Home Depot, Costco, Target or some high cost union grocer came into my town? Maybe, I guess it depends on weather or not I supported that business now wouldn’t it? I live in a small town with a very small crime rate so personally I feel that if too many big name businesses came into this town that the crime would probably go up. Its common sense that congestion and overcrowding would be a problem because like I said, this is a small town. We have a Dollar General Store, True Value Hardware, Jay-C, Ruler, Sav-A-Lot and several small businesses some of which have been here for as far back as I can remember even though according to you they all have high prices. We are getting a Kroger but personally I’m against that because I don’t like Kroger. You seem to think the main issue with everything is pricing. Pricing is not my issue with any of this. I admit WM has cheaper prices on alot of things but that doesn’t redeem them for the terrible things they have done. I don’t shop at our Jay-C store and I won’t shop at our Kroger because they are outrageous on their groceries. I do however shop at Ruler & Sav-A-Lot because they have very decent pricing and I would take the meat from Sav-A-Lot any day over Jay-C, Kroger and especially WM.
8. Thats funny, I have a rich persons attitude. Well Matthew I wish I had a rich persons bank account to go along with my attitude. Its just not fair, you are going to have the top 10 most ignorant comments all to yourself, come on Matthew give someone else a chance.
9. Yes I think the police should cuss out the gang bangers too Matthew. I mean can’t you see it, a cop strolls up to a gang member and calls him a dirty piece of shit s.o.b and what do you know, the gang member is REFORMED and going to church. Maybe you should take your idea up with congress, it just might work. Don’t arrest them, cuss them out. Maybe we all should just go up to them and cuss them out. Those of us who don’t get shot can keep stats on how many gang bangers we convert into good citizens. Okay Matthew get the ball rolling by being the first one of us to cuss out a gang banger. Make sure you video it so we can put it on the net for all to see, we will get more followers that way. I will be anxiously awaiting the video, go get em TIGER.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 12:39 PM
10. The problem with the drug dealers and gang members getting arrested has nothing to do with the police. They arrest them and the courts let them go. Thats an argument thats been going on for many years and unfortunately in alot of cases its true. There are some good cops out there who like to do their job but when the courts are letting these criminals free or just giving them a slap on the wrist, thats got to be very frustrating to these officers. My nephew is a cop and he is always upset because the courts let the criminals go. He arrested someone for drinking and driving one night and the next day the judge let him go. Well that night the same guy was drinking and driving again and killed a child, my nephew was devastated. Our courts need to start learning compassion for the good citizens and quit giving compassion to the criminals.
11. You never answered the question HAVE YOU EVER WORKED FOR WM?
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 12:39 PM
Ken V - Nice article, it shows how far society is going towards kids running the country. I think SanDiegoView and Sage might agree with what the Bible says about “Spare the rod and spoil the child”, I know that looking back, I’m glad my parents kept me in line and didn’t allow me to do anything I wanted.
I know a person who was put arrested and put in jail, because his daughter said he ‘hit’ her. He was told, “Kids don’t Lie”, gimme a break, 50% of what comes out of a kids mouth are lies. If something gets broken, ask a kid, who broke it and you will hear “Not me” or “I don’t know”. In the end, that person was exonerated, it seems he wanted her to do her chores, but she wanted to go play with her friends, so she called the police and told them he hit her.
Sick Of Wal-Mart - Single parent households, doesn’t help either, I’m a firm believer that it takes 2 parents to raise a child correctly. It is hard for a mother to raise a boy or a father to raise a girl, because men and women are different and it’s hard to understand the other sides point of view. Kids need to be able to see both sides, male and female, to become whole.
jerry in
Thursday, November 29 at 12:58 PM
We are getting a Kroger but personally I’m against that because I don’t like Kroger. You seem to think the main issue with everything is pricing. Pricing is not my issue with any of this. I admit WM has cheaper prices on alot of things but that doesn’t redeem them for the terrible things they have done. I don’t shop at our Jay-C store and I won’t shop at our Kroger because they are outrageous on their groceries. I do however shop at Ruler & Sav-A-Lot because they have very decent pricing and I would take the meat from Sav-A-Lot any day over Jay-C, Kroger and especially WM.
Jay-C and Kroger are one and the same (as are a couple dozen others).
Store Watcher in
Thursday, November 29 at 01:00 PM
Great post again Sick!
And to Matthew, my husband and I and other people in my area were not thrilled when Home Depot came to this area. We actually tried to buy a new diswasher there and the twit helping us kept screwing up the order and then another employee f’ed up and ordered the wrong item from the warehouse. After nearly an hour of waiting for them to get it right we said screw it and went to the local Sears they have in town.
You know what, we did end up paying a bit more for that dishwasher but the transaction was done in a matter of minutes! Sometimes paying less isn’t worth it when you have to deal with incompetence. My husband acutally prefers going to ACE Hardware over Home Depot and paying a bit more just so he can speak with someone who knows what the hell they are talking about.
Corgishepmom in Irrigon, OR
Thursday, November 29 at 07:22 PM
“My husband acutally prefers going to ACE Hardware over Home Depot and paying a bit more just so he can speak with someone who knows what the hell they are talking about. “
And that in a nutshell is how you beat Walmart and all of the other “big box” stores. Don’t try to compete on price but on some other competitive advantage like service, location, convenience, heck even better lighting in the parking lot. This is business 101.
mary in
Thursday, November 29 at 08:01 PM
I agree Jerry I think both parents in a childs life is a big factor and alot of the times effects the outcome of the child. I’m very much against child abuse but I consider spanking and child abuse two very different things. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with spanking a child for disciplinary reasons and sometimes thats what they need. I feel very fortunate that I have been married to the same woman for 24 years and our daughters were always well behaved. Some children are way out of control and grounding to their rooms where they have all the latest technology just isn’t going to work.
Store Watcher - Yes I know Jay-C & Kroger are one and the same. The Kroger is actually being built in adjoining building of the Jay-C store so I don’t know if its going to be left as two separate stores or if it will just be a Kroger which would make more sense.
Corgishepmom - Thanks and another great post by you as well. You hit the nail on the head by saying “Sometimes paying less isn’t worth it”. I’ve tried to preach that point myself but to no avail and Matthew for one will never understand that. I’ve never shopped at Home Depot myself so I really don’t know how they are. I prefer to shop at our True Value Hardware and locally owned lumber yard so I really have no reason to go elsewhere.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 08:23 PM
Corgishepmom - Meet Mary, the female version of Matthew. And can’t you imagine if we did argue any of those points she mentioned, then all the WM supporters would make up more reasons to call us liars and say we are wrong. It makes entirely no difference what point we argue with any of them, we ar always going to be wrong according to them.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 08:28 PM
Sick of Wal-Mart… “you had me at hello"…
“I agree Jerry I think both parents in a childs life is a big factor and alot of the times effects the outcome of the child"… AGREE
“I’m very much against child abuse but I consider spanking and child abuse two very different things"… AGREE
“Theres absolutely nothing wrong with spanking a child for disciplinary reasons and sometimes thats what they need"… AGREED
“Some children are way out of control and grounding to their rooms where they have all the latest technology just isn’t going to work"… AGREED
“The problem with the drug dealers and gang members getting arrested has nothing to do with the police. They arrest them and the courts let them go"… AGREED
“here are some good cops out there who like to do their job but when the courts are letting these criminals free or just giving them a slap on the wrist, thats got to be very frustrating to these officers"… AGREED
I can keep going but you get the point. I don’t argue with you for the sake of arguing. So oh how wrong your statement is when you say “It makes entirely no difference what point we argue with any of them, we are always going to be wrong according to them”.
There are definetely some things we agree on, but not all of them. The one thing no one can ever label me on is a “follower to the Walmart bible”. Many times these arguments have nothing to do with Walmart. You could call it Store A and the discussion still stands. Like I said before I could give a Rat’s A$$ about Walmart. What I want is to protect the US culture that has made us the greatest country in the world.
mary in
Thursday, November 29 at 09:16 PM
Well nice post Mary except for one thing. I meant no matter what points we argue about WM, we anti WM people will always be wrong or called liars. My fault for not clarifying that but I thought since you were talking about retailers there would be no clarification needed. I said you or anyone else would or would not agree or disagree with me on the other subjects we have been discussing.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Thursday, November 29 at 10:33 PM
Sick of Wal-Mart, now where have I called you “wrong” or a “liar” on every point about Walmart??????????? You are 100% wrong on your assessment.
What people have to start remembering on this site is the pro-walmart crowd is not 100% behind Walmart. i see alot of dumb stupid things they do and I certainly won’t defend those actions. I also see alot of good. You will NEVER see me “lock, stock and barrel” behind them. As I said in my previous post… I could give a Rat’s A$$ what happens to them. It’s the capitalistic society we live in that I defend.
Everyone talks about how bad Walmart is but it truly boggles my mind how they criticize Walmart when Walmart is so much better than other places in terms of pay, benefits and opportunities. Ask the “mom and pop” stores what they offer in terms of wages and benefits. Heck, ask Target what they offer. I’ve seen enough information that tells me Walmart is extremely competitive for the industry. This “love fest” with anti-Walmart is just pure bunk.
Mary in
Thursday, November 29 at 11:12 PM
i agree with you mary.what do the mom and pop stores pay?obviously not well enough to have a career there and make a decent living.corgi did you go to public hearings in your town when home depot wanted to build and raise the traffic,safety and livability issues you alway raise when walmart wanted to build?i highkly doubt you did.folks raise the same traffic safety and livability issues next time fred meyer,target,home depot,kohls and union grocery stores plus strip malls and large shopping malls are built.but of course we wont hear the same opposition garbage and nonsense we always hear when walmart wants to build.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Friday, November 30 at 02:14 AM
I don’t live in the town where the Home Depot was built as it is two towns over from me. However I have gone to community meetings in my own town, but we really don’t have these issues as my town doesn’t even have a single traffic light or many businesses to speak of. We basically have two taverns, the Shell Mart, a post office, schools and city hall. What was once our grocery store has remained vacant for three years now.
And the Home Depot is off HWY 395 in Hermiston and have to say their nearest neighbors are a Cinema, grocery store and Marlette manufacturer. Any homes would probably be at least 1/2 mile behind the store and there are railroad tracks in between. Mainly an industrial area and business area.
Now by contrast on the opposite side of HWY 395 there is the Walmart Supercenter that sits smack dab in the middle of some neighborhoods. One side street of older homes has a lovely view of the parking lot about 25 ft away. And a neighborhood of newer homes and apartments gets a view of the back of the store. But in all fairness I believe that particular neighorhood went in after the store.
Corgishepmom in Irrigon, OR
Friday, November 30 at 03:36 AM
Hey ‘Sage’, where is the hundred you owe?
The Case for Drug Legalization
by Ron Paul, MD
www.totse.com/en/drugs/legal_issues_of_drug_use/ron_paul.html
“Urban street crime, which terrorizes millions of Americans, is largely the creation of the U.S. drug laws. That alone is reason enough for legalization.”
Dr. Ron Paul
Another bet if you want to make it—show me one quote of Dr. Ron Paul (running for president) that states what you quoted “Ron Paul wants to legalize currently illegal narcotics to the U.S. population”.
Back up what you post. I will thank you in advance if you will or can.”
The Sage in
Tuesday, November 27 at 04:58 PM
“Now for once please, please explain how I have been found to be a fraud (even by you). Give me one example. I will make a bet with you, if you can I will donate $l00.00 to WMW...”
Sage
“SDV (11/28 4:21AM) Again you do a spin on the subject. Wikipedia does not quote exactly what Ron Paul says in its entirety. This is what a poster wrote on their. Go to his library and read exactly then you “might” comprehend.”
“You have once again proved SDV that you are the fraudelent character as you only answer that which you want and give it an excellent spin to fit into your perception.”
“Prove what I orginally posted and I will pay up.’
The Sage in
Wednesday, November 28 at 11:22 AM
Does being a Panamanian swamp weasel also make you a little welcher ‘Sage’?
From Romans 13: 13-14
13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Let us make provision for getting America loaded with Ron Paul. After all it was “Dr.” Timothy Leary as another earlier Libertarian clown.
“Good laws have their origins in bad morals.”
Ambrosius Macrobius
SanDiegoView in 'Sage' owes WMW a C note
Friday, November 30 at 06:01 AM
Mary I never singled you out and said you called me a liar on everything I said about WM but you did call me a liar more than once about things I know to be facts. Well I should say things I was told by WM so if its lies, its lies I was told by WM. But it is true that we anti WM people will be called liars by someone no matter what point we argue.
As for WM’s pay, benefits, and opportunities, some of that isn’t as great as you think. It was a common complaint when I worked about outsiders being brought in as manages and supervisors instead of promoting within. It was always told to us that promotions would be for the employees who really wanted it but that was a right out lie. Yes there was a few promotions from within but several were not and some people actually quit because of that. The benefits were decent but could have been better. I’m just saying that with the money WM makes, their benefits should be the best and they aren’t. There are much smaller businesses that don’t even come close to WM’s profits that have better benefits. Like I said though their benefits are decent. The pay is alright, I had no complaints with that. Their treatment of employees is in alot of cases very inappropriate and no I’m not saying that just because I feel I was treated unfairly. I’ve seen others treated unfairly as well and believe it or not, thats a common practice at WM.
Matthew - How the hell can you even compare these little mom and pops stores with WM. How much money does WM bring in yearly Matthew? How much do mom and pop stores bring in yearly Matthew? How the hell do you think these small businesses could ever pay what WM pays? You are all about the money Mathew and some things are just more important than money. Heres some facts for you Matthew:
* Over 100 million people shop at Wal-Mart per week in the U.S.
* Wal-Mart opens a new store every two-business days.
* Wal-Mart expands to one new country per year.
* With $160 billion in revenues, Wal-Mart’s yearly income surpasses IBM and Microsoft—combined.
Now tell me Matthew how can the little mom and pops stores compete with that? You need to quit making stupid comparisons and come up with something new because all of your posts are the same. It seems you have some sort of vendetta against small businesses and its really just plain stupidity. In a small town like mine, small businesses is what keeps the town going. You know its probably not easy to run a small businesses and alot of the people that do are good people just trying to get by. Some of them do struggle to make it. I can’t believe you are comparing them with WM. I will take the small businesses over WM any day. And you know Matthew, with what WM brings in yearly, they could even pay more than what they do pay and you being all about the money should know that.
I see you started using a dictionary Matthew so I will at least thank you for that........THANK YOU.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 30 at 08:03 AM
Heres some more facts for you Matthew. This is how great your wonderful WM is. Oh and these are proven too so don’t call me a liar. I find the last one very funny. WM won’t sell a music cd containing vulgar language but they will sell the video games from the Grand Theft Auto series. For those of you who don’t know about these games, they contain drug use, intense violence, prostitution and tons of profanity. Here is the ESRB rating for these games:
ESRB Rating Mature: Content Description: Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs
Taken from a news article:
The critical and commercial success of the Grand Theft Auto video game series has not been without controversy; the explicit content in these games has resulted in the game’s subsequent removal from many retailers’ shelves.
WM did not remove these games from their shelves and they have other mature rated games as well. Now doesn’t that seem hypocritical? They will sell EXTREMELY mature rated video games but not a music cd containing a little profanity. Thats funny.
* Wal-Mart offers health care packages to full-time workers, but the cost is too expensive for most employees.
* Full-time employees are paid between $6 and $7.50 per hour and on average take home less than $200 dollars per week.
* The turnover rate is so high that Wal-Mart hires nearly 550,000 workers—or half of its workforce—each year.
* Wal-Mart is ranked last among retailers in charitable contributions.
* 85% of Wal-Mart’s merchandize is purchased overseas, some of it from Third World sweatshops.
* Hundreds of musical artists must create a second “clean” recording in order to have their CDs displayed in Wal-Mart.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 30 at 08:34 AM
Sick of WalMart : Good afternoon! To quote Jerry, just an observation,I don’t recall ever,since I’ve been posting here,such a vociferous “Mary” commentary! It is really a revelation,that “Mary-go-round"(according to Sick of WalMart), should have such a Mary -come-round!Is this the kindler,gentler love fest,,Anne Coulter wannabe of previous posts??Maybe this is her,she,its idea of detente??I am exceedingly leery of this eleventh hour of conciliation, however timely the appropriateness of the season.
ddrb in
Friday, November 30 at 04:49 PM
Sorry ddrb, I haven’t changed one bit but maybe you are finally opening your eyes to the facts (doubt it though) vs. the rhetoric and lies you’ve been spewing around here. I especially like the one where you are telling people that only Walmart pursues subrogation cases. Now that was a good laugh!
mary in
Friday, November 30 at 05:52 PM
Mary in: I have honestly tried since I first began blogging here this past summer,to be a forhtright and a fair poster. I have noted ,in the short time I have been here, a patter and pattern in practice among certain personalities on this blog. It has been a one note chorus,one flat note,out of tune, and out of time, when it comes to the WalMart Worship Choir; with special ,very limited,solo performances by Mary Anne Coulter,the combined efforts of RDS,Bob,Duh Donald,and he whose name is Legion! I have no recollection of telling anyone where WalMart is the only corporation who pursues subrogation cases. Will you please show us where I said that??Mary, I do not understand why you seem so threatened by me when you repeatedly accuse me of no credibilty,and have discounted me as incapable of any mental acuity above an amoeba!I don’t understand your fear-after all, you never seem to feel or be offended by Matt Vantress,and never demand the level of accountablity from him that you mercilessly seem entitled to demand of others.Can you explain your selective enforcement?
ddrb in
Friday, November 30 at 06:20 PM
ddrb - I haven’t much to say right now except.....AMEN BROTHER.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Friday, November 30 at 08:23 PM
Wow Sick of Walmart, you need to do some more reading. The comment about “Walmart is the only corporation who pursues subrogation cases” was directed SOLELY at ddrb who stated the EXACT sentence on another thread started today.
As far as being “threatened” by you, you couldn’t be FARTHER from the truth. I don’t back down from a challange, especially when I know the facts will back me up. As far as Matt Vantress goes, I would suggest the anti-walmart crowd follow my lead in just ignoring him. I don’t even take the time anymore to read his posts.
ddrb, nice to see you as the follower again!!!!
mary in
Friday, November 30 at 11:15 PM
Mary in: Please tell me which thread where I have allegedly said to quote you-"the EXACT sentence.” Where exactly did you say that was??
ddrb in
Saturday, December 01 at 02:48 AM
Mary in: “I don’t back down from a challenge,especially when the facts will back me up.”....Well,your backside is hanging out,uncovered,and very vulnerable on this one. In an effort to discredit me,you’ve been hoisted own your own petard,Mary. The thread you are referring to, “WalMart...sparks remarks”,dated Friday morning contains a sentence similar to what you have unequivocally attributed to me. That was Wallstreet’s commentary,and not mine. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT,MARY,BEFORE CALLING ME A LIAR!!Who’s spewing lies now,Mary??
ddrb in
Saturday, December 01 at 03:25 AM
What I want is to protect the US culture that has made us the greatest country in the world.
I’d be interested in how you’re measuring greatness. GDP?
The Mugging of the American Dream
On the eve of George W. Bush’s second inauguration The Economist - not exactly a Marxist rag - produced a sobering analysis of what is happening to the old notion that any American can get to the top. With income inequality not seen since the first Gilded Age (and this is The Economist editors speaking, not me) - with “an education system increasingly stratified with fewer resources than those of their richer contemporaries” and great universities “increasingly reinforcing rather than reducing these educational inequalities” - with corporate employees finding it “harder...to start at the bottom and rise up the company hierarchy by dint of hard work and self-improvement” - “with the yawning gap between incomes at the top and bottom” - the editors of The Economist - all friends of business and advocates of capitalism and free markets - concluded that “The United States risks calcifying into a European-style class-based society.”
The Anti Wal-Mart Movement has an underlying motive of returning to the “US culture” that created the greatest country in the world, not what we have now.
Ken V in Texas
Saturday, December 01 at 04:21 AM
You are absolutely correct ddrb. I appologize for referring to you when it should have been Wallstreet.
mary in
Saturday, December 01 at 07:47 AM
Mary in: Calling someone a liar isn’t a practice I feel comfortable indulging in. You, on the other hand, have and never have had(since I"ve been here),ANY hesitancy at hurling that insult on a regular basis. Indeed,in earlier posts you said your intention was to show” what a fraud you are,ddrb”. Well,when pointing the fraudulent finger at me,your other three fingers are pointing back at you,the REAL fraud,Mary. You would do all here a favor if you slacked off of your offensive habit of conitnuously impugning others’ posts as lies, just because your either too lazy or too deficient in vocabulary to come up with new terminology.As I said,one note and one tune-a dull drumbeat,over and over,and over.I think you owe a lot of bloggers here an apology for your” Liar,Liar” comments!
ddrb in
Saturday, December 01 at 10:25 AM
Ken V in Texas: Kudos to you, sir! That was one fine post,Master King-you reign supreme!
ddrb in
Saturday, December 01 at 11:11 AM
ddrb, I absolutely mispoke when I metioned your name instead a Wallstreet. That was wrong. But here’s BIG difference between you and me ddrb.. I call a “spade a spade” when i see it but I also admit where there is fault. You on the other hand seem to live in denial when hit with the hard questions. I’m not so sure you’ll ever admit when you are wrong. So try and look as hard as you want for any mistakes I make because they will be few and far between, but it usually doesn’t take me long to find problems with some of your posts.
As for the insults… are you kidding me?!?!?!?! Take a good look in the mirror.
“JOE in: Are you referring to dufASS Donald?”
“Ken V: Perhaps we could have an informal contest to rename “RDS”. My two faves are Donald Duck-’cause he’s a quack; Humpty Dumpty- ‘cause he’s cracked . A cracked,cracker quacker. “
“BTW:Ken,Thanks for “linking” my post up!Perhaps “Typhoid Mary” might gain some insight from the above mentioned article-is she now out of quarantine?”
“y in: Perhaps your 3:16 A.M. post denotes who’s “smoked” up, “
“JOE in: Mud wrestling,eh? No doubt that’s Mary’s natural habitat-she’d have home court advantage-oink,oink!! “
mary in
Sunday, December 02 at 10:29 AM
Mary in: You have proven the point I made earlier, Mary. Inventiveness, and humor are quite different,in their context, than the ease and facilty with which you feel entitled to call people liars on a regular basis. It is your standard issue ,stock and trade, one size fits all response! Your cavalier attitude to people’s intelligence and integrity, by the continued use of that offensive four letter word-LIAR- says a great deal more about you than it does aboout the many others you have repeatedly attempted to impugn. Mary,your obsession with “defrauding “and” truth” reeks of Freudian projection to me.( Be fair, you gotta admit, a couple of my comments,in self defense, are pretty inventive.)
ddrb in
Sunday, December 02 at 11:55 AM
BTW: You didn’t just misspeak about me upthread, you went on, post after post,carrying YOUR lie about me-starting on Friday,and carried on for several, smug arrogant,repugnant, LYING posts. But ,you did fall own your own sword, falling a l -o-n-g way down from the v-e-r-y high and mighty perch of your “ivory tower!”
ddrb in
Sunday, December 02 at 12:06 PM
I’ve been posting here for more than a year and I think 227 comments may be some sort of record!
Boo ya!
Ken V in Texas
Sunday, December 02 at 02:55 PM
“Inventiveness, and humor are quite different,in their context, than the ease and facilty with which you feel entitled to call people liars on a regular basis”
Did you by chance make fun of your friends or classmates when growing up? Was it OK because it was “inventive and humorous”? Is that the standard you live by? As for the “one size fits all” I guess that also applies to anyone who is pro-walmart… they must be “shills"… they don’t know what they are talking about… their loyalty to the “beast” blinds them. As that what you mean? And for liars “on a regular basis"… do a little homework and tell me where I have called people “liars” and that it’s proven I’m wrong. As a matter of fact just see how many posts where I’ve used the term “liar”.... there are VERY few and far between.
mary in
Sunday, December 02 at 03:28 PM
Mary in : Speaking of grammar school and classmates,that’s exactly what your childish tantrum,here on this particular post,sounds like!!!(BTW, No I didn’t,but I’d bet you were as selfish,smug, and arrogant,with a false sense of entitlement THEN, with your classmates, as YOU are today on this blog!!)
ddrb in
Sunday, December 02 at 03:51 PM
So who’s having the childish tantrum? You better take a look at the last 24 hours of your posts. As for the “humor” you show, I guess you lost those good kindergarten basics of life as you make fun of people today.
mary in
Sunday, December 02 at 04:34 PM
Ok Mary, I have a challenge for you. Show me where you have called people liars and you have been proven right? See it goes both ways. You HAVE indeed called me a liar and my comments were about situations I myself experienced so I would just like to see how you can prove you are right and I’m a liar.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, December 02 at 04:43 PM
Sick of WalMart: Hope you brought enough food and drink to sustain you for the long,long wait, for HER reply, Sick of WalMart!!
ddrb in
Sunday, December 02 at 05:07 PM
Oh I’m sure she will reply but waiting for her to prove me a liar, now thats a different story. I’m stocking up on food and drinks now.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, December 02 at 05:42 PM
Sick of walMart: So am I-figure it might be kinda hard to find Easter candy,though!!
ddrb in
Sunday, December 02 at 05:50 PM
Sick of WalMart: Think the midnite oil’s gonna be burning late into the wee hours of the A.M. over at the Shill-Mill ,tonight?
ddrb in
Sunday, December 02 at 07:58 PM
Oh yeah I’m sure it will be ddrb. I can’t believe Matthew hasn’t graced us with his presence in a few days but I’m also thankful for that. I’m sure he is writing everything down that he is told so he can on here and make an explosive comment. It will cause an explosion of laughter anyway. Well I’m off to work, don’t have too much fun on here tonight ddrb. Have a great night.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Sunday, December 02 at 09:50 PM
Hey ‘Sage’-
No need to cut and run because of the hundred you owe WMW. If it makes you feel better about losing a bet, send it to the Shanks in the donation section.
“He that giveth unto the poor shall not lack: but he that hideth his eyes shall have many a curse.”
Proverbs 28:27 (From the Bible. That book thing you never open and read or really understand ‘Sage’)
WalMart/Dr. Ron Paul- Cheap drugs and no taxes for the wealthy. That’s the ticket.
SanDiegoView in
Monday, December 03 at 02:37 AM
Oh mary-
“And for liars “on a regular basis"… do a little homework and tell me where I have called people “liars” and that it’s proven I’m wrong. As a matter of fact just see how many posts where I’ve used the term “liar”.... there are VERY few and far between.”
mary in
Sunday, December 02 at 03:28 PM
“I couldn’t have phrased it better myself when putting label to SDV. And that’s in addition to the PURE OUTRIGHT LIES that he spreads.
mary in
Thursday, November 22 at 10:39 AM
Peddling another deceitfully worded ‘loan product’ as ‘integrity insurance’ from your personal account of moral bankruptcy will never improve your standing mary. You must want to change as a person and admit to being a sleaze propagandist before any real moral fiber can take root in your conscience.
WalMart/Edelman/mary- We call it ‘health insurance’ but conceal legal and financial scams as a fraud to evade issuing real health insurance to the unsuspecting policy holding suckers. Collecting premiums on a health care policy involving risk taking and actuarial tables of probable health events and paying a claim upon the event is health insurance. We don’t want to do that. Our lawyers are still trying to figure out who to blame and suit against for MS, influenza and leprosy under the ‘subrogation’ deep pockets theory and ‘health care’ loan quagmire. And as for business philosophy modeling for the rest of America… WalMart leads the way in telling the Shanks to go to hell.
SanDiegoView in
Monday, December 03 at 03:32 AM
Sick-of-Walmart, I have only had 2 issues with you (other than your vulgar language of course).
1. “you do realize that some Wal-Mart warehouses have made over 1 billion dollars in one day don’t you?”?????
“Jerry once again you are so very wrong. Well I guess you have never worked for Wal-Mart, thats obvious. Wal-Mart has their own warehouses which are called Wal-Mart Distribution Centers and yes moron they do make money”
hm… I just took a look at the 2007 Walmart Annual Report. They broke down their net sales into 3 seperate categories: Walmart stores, Sams Club and International. The 3 added together make up 100% of the 344B in net sales for the fiscal year. Strange thing is I never did see Wal-mart Distribution Centers in that list, probably because THEY DON’T MAKE MONEY!
2. “Sick of.. as for your “friend”.... did he have a contract with Walmart? Did Walmart violate the contract? This is Business 101 folks. Either your friend was dumb or your story is like swiss cheese full of holes.”
Still stick to my story there.
You can start eating now.
mary in
Monday, December 03 at 10:06 AM
Ken V in Texas: I cannot thank you enough for that upthread link to “The Mugging of America”,by your fellow Texan ,Bill Moyers. I personally consider this to be an early Christmas gift to this blog! Mr. Moyers is even more eloquent and insightful than usual-and that’s saying a lot. I will cherish this article,and when my “dancing with the devils “ becomes tiresome or demoralizing, I will refer back to Moyer’s words ,gather up my courage,and take yet, another, whirl on the” ole” dancefloor!
ddrb in
Monday, December 03 at 11:59 AM
Mary - I gave the DC # and managers name for any of you to call. Like I said, I stated it as it was put to 1200 employees and I was still called a liar. The general manager must be the liar because HE said our building made 1 billion dollars in 1 day which at that time was a new DC record.
As for my friend, what WM did to him was WRONG no matter what anyone says. No matter if there was a contract or not (which there was). And the main reason I even told about my friends situation is to prove how WM treats people, not to hear legal options or BUSINESS 101 mumbo jumbo. The whole point got diverted into legal talk. Regardless of legal options, contracts, business 101, the point is WM cheated a very nice guy that has done lots of business with them before. He did not deserve to be treated that way by WM or anyone else. Thats what our society is coming to, SEND IT TO MEXICO AND GET IT DONE CHEAPER. I think the biggest reason I hate WM is because of their lack of morals, family values, and human compassion which is something they preach, something they are suppose to be all about. Well I’m here to tell you, they are very much hypocrites because they stand for none of these. They preach it falsely to gain trust but coming from them, its lies and I can’t understand why people can’t see that. I can’t understand how anyone with the the values I listed above could back a company such as WM.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Monday, December 03 at 12:48 PM
get a life sick of you are a disruntled former walmart employee who i am sure was let go for obvious reasons.you get fired from a company for good reasons9 times out of 10.obviously you didnt do a very good job and its obvious to me that you were very lazy and were let go for doing such a poor job.so you are pissed off at wm because of their alleged mistreatment of you which i dont buy based on your condescending attitude.so you get on here and bald face lie and talk out of your rear end on the conditions going on there which i can tell you in the thousands of times i have shopped at wm sorry pal i never observed them.you are just one bitter person get over it.other companies have treated their workers far worse and have paid far less than wm ever has.you accuse wm of cheating someone?would you bitch and holler if target,costco,macys,bi-mart or others did the same thing?of course not.all you walmart haters are sore losers.good i hope wm keeps on kicking the others rear ends with their low prices.and dont give me the bunk about china either.every place else you shop at buys and imports from china too.they just sell at higher prices.it just appalls me that you all on here are too fricking stupid and are not smart enough to realize that.where did you get your education at folks?your iq is very poor.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Tuesday, December 04 at 06:45 AM
get a life sick of you are a disruntled former walmart employee who i am sure was let go for obvious reasons.you get fired from a company for good reasons9 times out of 10.obviously you didnt do a very good job and its obvious to me that you were very lazy and were let go for doing such a poor job.so you are pissed off at wm because of their alleged mistreatment of you which i dont buy based on your condescending attitude.so you get on here and bald face lie and talk out of your rear end on the conditions going on there which i can tell you in the thousands of times i have shopped at wm sorry pal i never observed them.you are just one bitter person get over it.other companies have treated their workers far worse and have paid far less than wm ever has.you accuse wm of cheating someone?would you bitch and holler if target,costco,macys,bi-mart or others did the same thing?of course not.all you walmart haters are sore losers.good i hope wm keeps on kicking the others rear ends with their low prices.and dont give me the bunk about china either.every place else you shop at buys and imports from china too.they just sell at higher prices.it just appalls me that you all on here are too fricking stupid and are not smart enough to realize that.where did you get your education at folks?your iq is very poor.
matthew vantress in gresham oregon
Tuesday, December 04 at 06:45 AM
Calm down matthew. These people are here out of a mature respect for others and a concern for this country dabbling in the narcissistic and dangerous excesses of capitalism without moral boundries. They respect other retailers more than you do and desire a balanced approach to putting walmart in the grave. Sort of a Kervorkian methodology and response to business insanity and hick defenders of the walmart faith. It is actually rather humane when you think about it.
Soupy Sales in
Tuesday, December 04 at 07:13 AM
Matthew - Damn did you have to post that eyesore twice? You are definitely not one to come on here talking about the education of other posters because its obvious you have no education. Yes Matthew, I am lazy, thats why I worked there for 8 years and won awards for production and employee of the month, you are such an idiot. You never did answer my question Matthew? HAVE YOU EVER WORKED FOR WM? Its just not right to some of the comparisons you are making unless you have worked there. And if you think WM is so awesome, why don’t you work there? For the last time Matthew, this is a WM site so I’m not going to come on here and bitch about other retailers, your ignorance knows no boundaries. And if anyone is on here telling lies Matthew it is definitely you. I think you lie so much about WM that you believe yourself and you have lost all perception whats reality and whats illusion. Your comments are just senseless and for the funny thing is that even though these comments are typed, yours is hardly even legible. All you are worried about is pricing Matthew and the situation with WM goes way beyond. Its obvious that you care nothing about people or this country because all you preach about is WM being cheaper. Well you are right they are cheaper.....ON MORALS, FAMILY VALUES, AND HUMAN COMPASSION. And yes Matthew they are even cheaper on alot of their prices so that suckers like you will succumb to them like the fools you are.
Sick of Wal-Mart in
Tuesday, December 04 at 10:45 AM
Comment Policy
WalmartWatch.com reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to remove or refuse to post blog comments.