Wal-Mart Reputation Problems Lead to Massive Image Overhaul

“Mona Williams” = Walmarts Pit Viper!

The Key Word here is “Image”.

Image: a popular conception (as of a person, institution, or nation) projected especially through the mass media

A lie is still a lie. Whatever “Image” they try to project and no matter how successfully.  A pig with lipstick is still a pig. And the economic policies of the US Government, that have allowed Wal*Mart to get away with it’s questionable (at best), predatory and immoral business practices are going to have to change. They are already changing on there own. No ammount of politicing and “image” upgrading can change the truth. Just peoples perception of the Truth.

“Image: a popular conception(as of a person)projected especially through mass media.”

“A lie is still a Lie” Whatever image they try to project & no matter how successfully”

And a Muslim extremeist who now claims to be christian is still a Muslim extremist.

And hiding history wont erase the 5000+ Americans they murdered.

Subject: Obama explains National Anthem

Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

‘As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,’ Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.’

WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.

He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking . We do not need a man in office that will not sa lute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for.

“He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED...."~Larry in USN WWII (Ret)

But the question here also is.....whose side is Walmart on?
China or America?

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Larry,
Here’s yer Reaganomics:

The proposal being crafted by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson that could amount to a $1 trillion taxpayer bailout of the mortgage industry.

Voo-Doo Economics.

Alex,
The American consumer, can get Walmart to answer that question very easily. STOP shopping there, Dont Shop there, Teach your kids not to shop there!

The liberals in power, should of listened to General Patton when they had the chance. Russia & China would not be a threat or problem today! And Walmart, if it was in existence, would NOT be allowed to do business with either country.

Instead they got tired of listening to him, and he died in a mysterious “Jeep” accident

Bobby,
Here’s your Clintonomics:

I dont usually cut and paste other people comments but here is a great explaination of how the Democrats are infact to blame for the current status of the economy.

1.  Almost all of the financial problems we see today are based on bad mortgage lending.  That would be lending money to people to buy homes who didn’t qualify for a loan.

2.  The Democrats, under Clinton, strengthened a government-created monster called the “Community Reinvestment Act.” This law was then used by “activists” and “community organizers” (like Obama?) to coerce lending institutions to make these bad loans ... millions of them.

3.  Now we see what happens when political “wisdom” supplants good loan underwriting.  When private financial institutions are virtually forced to make loans to people with a bad credit and job history .. this is what you get.  Enjoy it.

Big Tex in Rogers

Larry in USN WWII (Ret)
You mean the Democrats that wrote the contract with America? Larry how old are you? I don’t disagree on your view on Patton. But you keep posting Fabricated Bull Sh*t. See if six years ago I was blogging that Fanny Mae, and Freddi Mac were going to collapse and cost the tax payers perhaps trillions of dollars or destroy the nations economy. Well that was Bush trying to cut taxes for the rich and at the same time rebuild the economy after 9/11. The Math doesn’t work. You have to have a tax base. If you have been awake in the last year and a half you may have noticed a few cracks in the economy. Friend we’re in for a big screw up. Be glad if we even have an American Flag in another 10 years. Corporate America sold off your heritage and there ain’t no money to pay the tax bills.

Again, quit with the BS Obama stuff. It’s all fake. I live and work in Manhattan and lost plenty of friends in 9-11. Having read some of your nonsense, I can only figure that you are uninformed, senile, stupid or a liar. Which one is it.

Bobby: “ Having read some of your nonsense, I can only figure that you are uninformed, senile, stupid or a liar. Which one is it."Bobby~~~~~~~~~How about ALL of the above?

“Alex,
The American consumer, can get Walmart to answer that question very easily. STOP shopping there, Dont Shop there, Teach your kids not to shop there! ~Larry in USN WWII (Ret)

(Just like the American voter will get the answer they want?)

I guess that you don’t want to comment on a company that sells out America to the lowest bidder.
Larry if you ever get a chance watch the PBS/Frontline show “Is Walmart good for America?”. You will see WM actually going to court against American companies (that made big screen tv’s) and being in the importers corner.
Not very patriotic.

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J O N Q U I E R E
Q U E B E C
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Home of Walmart Worker Abuse

Speaking of “image” and perception vs. reality re: “Free Market"- a timely reminder of deja-vue,all over again-McCain and the Keating Five S&L;meltdown and taxpayer bailout:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"McCain Keating Five
One Crook Went To Prison, The Other Is Running For President”
What is the Keating Five?

John McCain and the Keating Five, What Every Voter MUST Know
Posted by Admin

During the 2000 Republican Presidential Primaries, Slate.com writer Chris Suellentrop wrote an excellent in-depth feature article about John McCain and his role in the Keating Five. This is a must read article for every American, especially for anyone who thinks John McCain is a hero.

Two Important things to know before you read the article:

1. John McCain admitted to intentionally filing false income tax returns to defraud the IRS by not claiming thousands of dollars in gifts McCain and his family received from Charles Keating and Keating’s company. Years later, when the IRS noticed Keating’s company had written off the gifts to McCain as business expenses, McCain fessed up and admitted filing false returns and made a “donation” to the U.S. Treasury to cover the amount he defrauded American tax payers. (Committing tax fraud is one of the least offensive things John McCain has done over his career, but this article just focuses on his role in the Keating Five, and the Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal of the late 1980’s-early 1990’s). McCain also leaked information about the Keating Five to the press multiple times in an effort to appear above the other Senators in the scandal. A 1989 Phoenix New Times article summed it up best with their title - McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five.

2. John McCain’s wife, Cindy McCain, along with her father, made a $359,000 investment in retail property owned by Charles Keating in 1986, a year before John McCain first met with federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Keating was later convicted on 73 counts of fraud, conspiracy, and other crimes. Years later, Cindy McCain sold her investment for $15,000,000.

For anyone not aware of the Keating Five, here’s a very simple summary:

Charles Keating owned a savings and loan in California. He was illegally using the money of his bank’s customers to give loans to himself and friends that they didn’t have to repay, and to speculate on risky real estate investments, which was strictly forbidden by U.S. law (and was one cause of the Great Depression).

When the feds found out what was going on and launched an investigation into Keating and his company, Keating called five U.S. Senators whom he had wined, dined, and lavished with hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations and personal gifts.

Keating asked the five Senators to tell the feds to bug off, and the five Senators, later known as the Keating Five, obliged, meeting with federal investigators twice and pressuring them to stop investigating Keating’s crimes. They bought Keating some time, but the feds didn’t give up and eventually Keating was nailed. The reason the feds were so persistent was because Keating wasn’t playing with mere chump change. Keating blew $3.4 billion through illegal personal loans and bad investments, and the FDIC had to reimburse Keating’s customers who had been ripped off.(Continued)

(Background Info - Keating wasn’t the only Savings and Loan owner who was committing fraud, 20% of the S&L;’s that failed during that three year period were found to have been caused by fraud and/or insider trading. The failure of the Lincoln Savings and Loan and other S&L;’s pushed the country into a recession, costing the U.S. government $126 billion dollars in FDIC insurance payouts to investors. All of this came to a crescendo during the first year of the presidency of George H.W. Bush, who pushed through the S&L;bailout plan to keep the economy afloat.)

When the involvement of the Keating Five was made public, a scandal erupted and the Senate Ethics Committee launched their own investigation into whether the Keating Five had violated Senate ethics rules. The other four Senators left office either immediately or within one term. John McCain was formally rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating, but because McCain accepted Keating’s gifts of travel and vacations to Bahama while McCain was a member of the House of Representatives (he served one term there before moving to the Senate), the Senate claimed they had no jurisdiction to censure McCain. (However the meetings to pressure federal regulators occurred during the first few months of McCain serving in the Senate in 1987, so that excuse doesn’t hold up)

John McCain then went back to the drawing board and re-invented himself as “the Straight-Talk Express” and the media gobbled it up. “Tax-Evading-Criminal” doesn’t sound as catchy as “Straight-Shooting-War-Hero”.

Ever since the scandal, when McCain lies today, it’s never questioned, because he’s a “straight talker”. The man has more skeletons in his closet than any politician in history. The Keating Five is just one bone.

After reading the Slate article, ask yourself: if Obama or any other candidate had a scandal such as the Keating Five in their past, would the mainstream media never question it? Could any other candidate even have a political career after the Keating Five? For the other four Senators, the answer is no. And while Charles Keating went to prison for his role in the scandal, John McCain swept it under the rug and could soon be President of the United States of America.~~~~~mccainkeatingfive~~~~~~~NOTE: Is THIS the kind of experience I want in a President?Never!

NOTE: Is THIS the kind of experience I want in a President?Never!

So, “Google Gal” would rather go for the “lack of experience” guy...oh, well, it IS a free country to vote as one pleases…

Note to Larry:  No need to post all the conspiracy theory stuff (which in the Junior Senator’s defense is indeed “fabricated stuff")—there’s plenty of other “dirt”, out there (namely, the company he tends to keep).

bbrd: (namely the company he tends to keep)....Yes,McCain’s “company” is indeed questionable....to wit:~~~"The Berman and Ames article from the Nation cited above, The McCain-Follieri Love Boat:

John McCain has been hammering rival Barack Obama for being little more than a vapid “celebrity” and “elitist.” But The Nation has obtained a photo revealing just how star-struck a straight-talking maverick can become when offered the chance to celebrate his birthday aboard a yacht filled with celebrities--even if one of those celebrity types turns out to be an A-list con man.
...
During McCain’s visit in 2006 he celebrated with birthday cocktails and sweets aboard the Celine Ashley yacht. In the photograph, taken in Montenegro at the end of August, McCain is shown boarding the yacht ramp towards the smiling Follieri and Hathaway. Just ahead of McCain and shaking hands with Follieri appears to be Rick Davis--McCain’s top aide and now co-manager of his campaign, who accompanied him on the trip and advised the government of Montenegro. A few months after McCain’s yacht party, Follieri strengthened his ties to McCain’s orbit by retaining Rick Davis’s well-connected Washington lobbying firm, Davis Manafort, and offering Davis both an investment deal and help in securing the Catholic vote for McCain’s presidential bid.

Follieri, who posed as Vatican chief financial officer in order to win friends and investments, pleaded guilty Wednesday in a Manhattan district court to conspiracy to commit wire fraud, eight counts of wire fraud and five counts of money laundering. As part of the plea, Follieri admitted to misappropriating at least $2.4 million of investor money and redirecting it to foreign personal bank accounts that were disguised as business accounts.
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An even bigger mystery is how Follieri’s boat came to be docked in Montenegro on McCain’s birthday. According to a journalist in Montenegro, the yacht had been anchored there for several days before McCain’s arrival, and only sailed away after McCain boarded. According to Vijesti, locals were told that McCain was meeting “friends from Florida” on the yacht.
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According to the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, in January 2007 Follieri sent Rick Davis a packet of information on his companies Follieri Capital and Follieri Media, apparently hoping to get financing from Pegasus Capital Advisors, a hedge fund in Connecticut that Davis represented. “Follieri’s proposal to Davis had two dimensions to it--first, as an investment opportunity for Davis’s fund; but secondly, there was the political dimension, in which Follieri offered to help deliver Catholic votes to McCain,” said Claudio Gatti, a reporter for Il Sole 24 Ore, who investigated Follieri for eighteen months.

In February 2007, according to a recent article in the New York Daily News, Follieri retained Davis’s lobbying firm, Davis Manafort. According to the paper, “on Feb. 27, 2007, Davis Manafort partner Rick Gates signed a confidentiality agreement drafted by the Follieri Group.

John McCain is still freeloading with bigwigs, lobbyists and criminal influence peddlers in exotic and foreign seaside haunts of the wealthy. Sounds just like the Keating Five Scandal, where someone in McCain’s immediate personal orbit, in Keating it was his wife Cindy that got an unbelievable “financial opportunity” from the criminal con man and influence peddler (Keating) and McCain got the promised delivery of political support, huge contributions and vote delivery in the election he was engaged in. In Follieri, it is his best friend Lobbyist/Campaign Manager Rick Davis getting the big “financial opportunity” while McCain reaps the gain in campaign funding and delivery of much needed votes as he runs for the Presidency he craves at any cost. ~~~~~~~firedoglake~~~~~~NOTE: Rick Davis has stated that this election will NOT be about “issues”,but about personalities. Seems McCain has more personalities than Sybil,(or is it Sarah?)Anybody who caught Bill Maher last night heard Andrew Sullivan refer to MCCain as the biggest “celebrity hound “politico,ever!

Hey Larry!!!!
A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president.

Dick Cheney and the Bush administration were sued to ensure that presidential records are not destroyed.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under by the Presidential Records Act.

The Bush administration’s legal position “heightens the court’s concern” that some records may not be preserved, said the judge.

A private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is suing Cheney and the Executive Office of the President in an effort to ensure that no presidential records are destroyed or handled in a way that makes them unavailable to the public.

In a 22-page opinion, the judge revealed that in recent days, lawyers for the Bush administration balked at a proposed agreement between the two sides on how to proceed with the case.

Praise Jesus!~ God may be bipartisan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moo,Moo, Moo MoFu!

Speaking of images and ethics,a little update on Tom Coughlin,now that the details of his recent “settlement” with his former employer,WalMart,have been unsealed.~~~” BENTON COUNTY : Retailer to pay on suits for exec
By MICHELLE BRADFORD, Arkansas Democrat Gazette
September 18th, 2008
Part of the $ 6. 75 million retirement settlement Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is paying former company Vice Chairman Tom Coughlin is a cushion should he lose lawsuits by former employees who were part of his embezzlement scam.

A settlement order unsealed Wednesday in Benton County Circuit Court said $ 250, 000 will be held in a trust account for any judgments against him in the suits by Pasty Stephens and Robert Hey Jr.

Stephens and Hey were convicted of wire fraud for helping Coughlin steal roughly $ 400, 000 between 1996 and 2002 by manipulating Wal-Mart travel reimbursement and vendor invoices, prosecutors said.

Both are suing Coughlin, saying they did what he told them. Both cases are pending in circuit court.

If Coughlin wins the cases, the $ 250, 000 in the trust account is his, according to Wednesday’s order in the retirement benefits case.

Wal-Mart on Aug. 21 settled with Coughlin, 59, of Centerton, ending a three-year legal battle over a $ 17 million retirement package.

The former No. 2 at Wal-Mart argued he was due the $ 17 million, but the company said he voided his contract by embezzling and sued him in 2005.

In January 2006, he pleaded guilty in U. S. District Court in Fort Smith to wire fraud and tax evasion.

He paid a $ 50, 000 fine and $ 461, 218 in restitution and is serving 27 months of house arrest, to be followed by five years’ probation.

The retirement dispute was settled about an hour before jury selection was to begin last month.

Wednesday’s order also states $ 100, 000 of the $ 6. 75 million represents money Wal-Mart owes Coughlin for assisting in legal matters involving the company.

W. H. Taylor, an attorney for Coughlin, declined to discuss specifics, but said Coughlin testified or helped in cases that as a routine matter crossed his desk while he still worked at the company.

Coughlin retired in 2005 after 27 years with Wal-Mart.

The order states Wal-Mart agreed to pay an additional amount not included in the $ 6. 75 million that represents outstanding medical bills Coughlin had the day of the settlement.

Taylor didn’t know the amount Wednesday and Wal-Mart wouldn’t comment.

Spokesman Daphne Moore said the company is satisfied the settlement is fair and is ready to move on. The order also states that the settlement takes into account Coughlin and his wife’s total medical costs, which are estimated at $ 60, 000 a year. Coughlin is eligible for Medi-1 care in 6 / 2 years, and Cynthia Coughlin is eligible in eight years. He has a history of heart problems and diabetes and recently had double knee replacement.~~~~~~~~~NOTE: So, Coughlin paid only a $50,000 fine for stealing over a quarter mil,and WalMart sets aside a quarter mil gets for Coughlin’s payout in other lawsuits against HIM?

P.S: Interesting that the amount of doctor bills WalMart is to pay wasn’t disclosed.Why is it that I don’t think its the same plan that other WalMart employees have at THEIR disposal?

P.S. (Article via Wake Up WalMart)

Bobby-Which is it?

I tell you what it aint?

Unlike you , I am a natural born citizen of this great country. I am not a liberal Democrat with a head full of pipe dreams, fueled by cannabis. Or a limey transplant.

I am a Patriot, I chose to stand up for my country and preserve freedom.

The only service you gave or are willing to give is lip service!This is the true sign of a coward. So tuck your tail back between your legs and run over to to your friends grave sights who gave the ultimate sacrifice, and pray for some of that courage.
I can only figure your a turn coat, a coward or a pot head-which is it?  All three!

Charlie Daniels vs. Obama

Guns and Church

Since I identify with the people who fall into Barrack Obama’s elitist description about people of faith who keep firearms I’m not very happy with Barrack Obama’s recent remarks.

He said something to the effect that us rednecks cling to our guns and our religion when we get frustrated and I would like to take umbrage to these remarks. My faith goes much deeper than his superficial explanation and I love my guns even when I’m not frustrated.

And I am not by myself. I was going to church and shooting guns before Mr. Obama was even born and come from a long line of good people who have been doing it for generations.

To me this latest Obama blunder only helps reveal the depth of condescension the far left wing of the Democrat party has for the folks out here in flyover country.

Mr. Obama’s remarks are insulting to a lot of folks. It’s kind of like Abraham Lincoln said, ‘God must love the common people because He made so many of them’.

His remarks make me think that Obama doesn’t know the people of this country very well. I’m sure he knows the jet set and the Hollywood bunch, the limousine liberals and the save the whales, kill the babies crowd, but does he think that the ordinary people don’t count? Does he think that they’re so stupid that they don’t know who he’s talking about when he says these things? Does he think their opinions aren’t important?
Apparently.

How can a man stand in front of America and tell people what he wants to do for them and have so little respect for a whole segment of the population?  In fact, a very large segment.  Does that mean that he would only represent the high-minded liberal ideals of the far left and ignore the rest of us?
What kind of Commander and Chief would he make if he doesn’t respect the very people who make up the lion’s share of the armed forces?

You may say I’m over reacting, but I’m getting sick and tired of him making these elitist statements and saying that he had been taken out of context or some other flimsy excuse.

After his wife’s remark about not being proud of this country and his pastor’s statements calling America the U.S.K.K.K.A. and his own statement about not wanting his daughter punished with a baby, it makes me wonder what kind of a man Obama really is and what kind of a President he’d make.

Would he be an antigun advocate pushing the effort to take the firearms out of innocent citizen’s hands? Would he not respect the religious beliefs of America, not taking them into account in his agenda?

I really don’t know much about the man and neither does America. He basically came from out of nowhere and as the facts come out little by by little, they don’t make a particularly confident picture. I have a great fear that if our military gets broken by another president, this time we’re not going to have time to fix it again and what that spells for America, I don’t even want to contemplate. Oh well, I guess I’ll grab my gun and go to church.

Pray for our troops.  What do you think?

God Bless America

Charlie Daniels

Are McCain’s handlers playing the wrong card?
By David H. Hackworth

John McCain is being hailed by the press as a “genuine war hero.” But is he a war hero in the conventional sense like Audie Murphy and John Glenn?
Or is his “war hero” status the creation of a very slick publicity campaign that plays on flag, duty, honor and country?

For sure, McCain has the fruitsalad a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars , two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service gongs.

On a purely medal count basis, he outweighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.

McCain’s valor awards are based on what happened in 1967, when during his 23d mission over Vietnam, he was shot down, seriously injured, captured and then spent 5 1/2 brutal years as a POW.

In an attempt to find out exactly what the man did to earn these many hero awards, I asked his Senate office three times to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. I’m still waiting.

I next went to the Pentagon. Within a week, I received a recap of his medals and many of the narratives that give the details of what he did.

None of the awards, less the DFC, were for heroism over the battlefield where he spent no more than 20 hours. Two Naval officers described the awards as “boilerplate” and “part of an SOP medal package given to repatriated (Vietnamera) POWs.”

McCain’s Silver Star narrative for the period 27 October 1967 the day after he was shot down to 8 December 1968 reads: “His captors… subjected him to extreme mental and physical cruelties in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes. Through his resistance to those brutalities, he contributed significantly towards the eventual abandonment…” of such harsh treatment by the North Vietnamese.

Yet in McCain’s own words just four days after being captured, he admits he violated the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors “O.K, I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.”

A Vietnam vet detractor says, “He received the nation’s third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason. He provided aid and comfort to the enemy!”

The rest of his valor awards issued automatically every year while he was a POW read much like the Silver Star. More boilerplate often repeating the exact same words. An example: “By his heroic endeavors, exceptional skill, and devotion to duty, he reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces.”

Yet McCain’s conduct while a POW negates these glowing comments. The facts are that he signed a confession and declared himself a “black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate.” This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press press were used as propaganda to fan the flames of the antiwar movement.

Accounts by McCain and other writers tell of the horror he endured: relentlessly beatings, torture, broken limbs. All inflicted during savage interrogations. Yet no other POW was a witness to these accounts.
A former POW says “No man witnessed another man during interrogations… We relied on each other to tell the truth when a man was returned to his cell.”

The U.S. Navy says two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism. But for the valor awards McCain received, there are no eyewitnesses, less himself and his captors. And they’re not talking.

Our POWs in Vietnam were treated appallingly. The Viets would either break a POW or kill him. POWs provided info beyond name, rank and serial number or they didn’t come back.

Based on these stalwart men’s horrific experiences, the Code of Conduct has been changed. A POW says, “Now the training is to give them something… don’t risk permanent damage to health, mind or body.”
McCain refused an early release. An act of valor? Three former POWs told me he was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he “just followed orders.”

McCain certainly doesn’t appear to be a war hero by conventional standards, but rather a tough survivor whose handlers are overplaying the war hero card.

David H. Hackworth died in June 2005, he was a much-decorated and highly unconventional former career Army officer who became a combat legend in Vietnam. Col. Hackworth received 78 combat awards — including a Distinguished Service Cross, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and eight Purple Hearts — during his 25-year military career which spanned the Korean and Vietnam wars..~~~~~~~~ NOTE:I’ll take David Hackworth’s opinions over Charlie Daniels’,anyday.

RE:Charlie Daniels~~~~~~~~~~Political statements

“The South’s Gonna Do It” had a mild message of Southern cultural identity within the Southern rock movement. Daniels was an early supporter of Jimmy Carter’s presidential bid and performed at his January 1977 inauguration.

“In America” was a reaction to the 1979-1981 Iran Hostage Crisis; it described a patriotic, united America where “we’ll all stick together and you can take that to the bank / That’s the cowboys and the hippies and the rebels and the yanks.” In contrast, “Still in Saigon” (written by Dan Daley) was an effective portrayal of the plight of the American Vietnam veteran ten years after the war; it was part of an early 1980s wave of attention to the subject, presaging treatments such as Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the U.S.A.” and “Shut Out the Light”, Billy Joel’s “Goodnight Saigon”, Huey Lewis and The News’ “Walking On A Thin Line”, and somewhat later Steve Earle’s “Copperhead Road”.

In 1990, Daniels’ country hit “Simple Man” was interpreted by some as advocating a pseudo-Biblical form of vigilantism. Lyrics such as “Just take them [rapists, killers, child abusers] out in the swamp / Put ‘em on their knees and tie ‘em to a stump / Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest,” got Daniels considerable media attention and talk show visits.

In 2003, Daniels published an Open Letter to the Hollywood Bunch in defense of President George W. Bush’s Iraq policy. His 2003 book Ain’t No Rag: Freedom, Family, and the Flag contains this letter as well as many other personal statements. During the 2004 presidential campaign, Daniels said that having never served in the military himself, he did not have the right to criticize John Kerry’s service record.[5] His band’s official website contains a “soapbox” page[6], where Daniels has made statements such as the following: “the topic de jour among the self proclaimed wise and elite these days,” regarding global warming, “In the future Darwinism will be looked upon as we now look upon the flat earth theory,” and “I am more afraid of you and your ilk than I am of the terrorists,” regarding U.S. Senator Harry Reid.~~~~~~~~~~~~NOTE: Looks like ole Charlie fiddles in whatever direction the political wind is blowin’ at the time.

In an attempt to find out exactly what the man did to earn these many hero awards, I asked his Senate office three times to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. I’m still waiting.

</b>Message to Mr. Hackworth and his little hack-ette:</b>

Tell you what, you get the living hell beat out of you every day for 5 1/2 years (that’s roughly 2007 days, give or take a few if the enemy happened to feel particularly “generous”, that day), and then you can discuss the merits of Mr. McCain’s service awards…

Chris Arndt

Hickory Daily Record (Hickory, North Carolina)

Sep 19, 2008

Letter to the Editor:

September 18, 2008 - It seems that the politicization of veterans for John McCain is acceptable. After all, he did serve his country and endure pain and agony and still overcame it in a personal narrative few can compete with.

It makes sense, then, for everyone to give him a free pass at using the flag, images of our soldiers and 9/11 at his convention and at campaign events as political messages of his strengths.

I, however, am not prepared to give him such a free pass.

McCain has earned our praise and respect. He has not earned the right to use the military as a political pawn for election. His support of the Iraq war, his voting records on important matters like the G.I. Bill and veterans hospitals funding, even his selection of Sarah Palin, trouble me. They especially trouble me as I am a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

I feel increasingly uncomfortable being used by his campaign to help attach the connotation of patriotism to his name. He supported a war from the beginning that was unnecessary and has failed to make anyone’s lives here any better. Americans will never have their lives improved by what we did in Iraq.

McCain also was apart of the machine to mislead Americans as to the intent and severity of this war, saying it would be a “cakewalk” and that we would win “very, very quickly.” Funny how he said last year he always knew it would be a “long and tough battle.”

He also voted against increasing the GI Bill to give veterans a debt and worry free opportunity at higher learning. Veterans 18 to 24 are more than twice as likely to be unemployed as their civilian counterparts, so for McCain to vote against increasing these opportunities is disappointing.

McCain criticized Bush for the Walter Reed Hospital fiasco while voting against increasing spending on veterans hospitals, including mental health facilities. Of Iraqi Freedom vets, 4,200 have died, tens of thousands permanently maimed and more than a third will suffer from some sort of metal trouble. Iraq vets commit suicide twice as much as the rest of America.

McCain thinks it’s better to keep taxes low on the richest Americans than provide adequate support to our veterans when they come home.

Then there’s Sarah Palin, who openly violated operational security when she declared to the world the specific date her son would be deployed to Iraq in her convention speech. Now the AP has followed her lead and disclosed who he is with and where he will be, even the specific job he’ll be doing. Track Palin, and his fellow soldiers will be less safe because his mother has followed McCain’s politicization of veterans.

When his entire campaign hedges on his military credentials, his actual record is disappointing.

I love John McCain for his service and is perseverance, but as a politician, he’s failed to lead for veterans’ issues.

Chris Arndt, Hudson, North Carolina~~~~~~~~~~Veterans for Common Sense~~~~NOTE: Well and beautifully said,sir.

NOTE: Looks like ole Charlie fiddles in whatever direction the political wind is blowin’ at the time.

Naaaahh—Country artists (with exception to the “Chicks” and anyone else who is trying to suck-up to the Hollywood elite to sell a few more records) are usually hard-core supporters of whoever is on the Republican ticket.

Most recently, John Rich (of “Big and Rich” and “Nashville Star” fame).

Face it, it’s a cultural thing (and yes, WM is at the heart of that culture, given its’ Ozark roots).

Why else do you think Mr. Screwed hosts those crazy CD-BBQs?

Because our homeland and very survival are once more at stake, the American people can’t afford to treat this new war against terrorism like they did Vietnam.
David Hackworth

Fighting terrorism is not unlike fighting a deadly cancer. It can’t be treated just where it’s visible - every diseased cell in the body must be destroyed.
David Hackworth

Fortunately, it’s still not too late to develop a comprehensive global strategy to eliminate our real enemy.
David Hackworth

Grunts on the line, where the enemy wants them dead, still goof off - even knowing that by letting their guard down they might die.
David Hackworth

If a policy is wrongheaded, feckless and corrupt, I take it personally and consider it a moral obligation to sound off and not shut up until it’s fixed.
David Hackworth

It’s human nature to start taking things for granted again when danger isn’t banging loudly on the door.
David Hackworth

Of course, it’s imperative that we stabilize Iraq and quickly reduce our armed role there.
David Hackworth

Our fumbling government’s response since Beirut - during both Republican and Democratic administrations - has been to cut and run, or to flat ignore this growing threat, apparently hoping it would go away.
David Hackworth

Our generals talk a good game about taking care of their grunts, and the majority of our Beltway politicians bay with moralistic fervor about how they, too, support the troops.
David Hackworth


That’s what supporting the troops is really all about - making sure American grunts get the right stuff!
David Hackworth

The old saying that war is a racket has taken on an even more shameful meaning.
David Hackworth

War is the ultimate reality-based horror show.
David Hackworth

Writing with you is the only thing that keeps me alive.
David Hackworth ~~~~~~~~~~~David Hackworth quotes

ddrb has no merit & shouldnt be discussing anything about veterans as she/he/it did NOT serve.

Of course the “conscientious objectors” all have some sort of mind boggling excuse. And we all know what they say about excuses & those that are full of them!

Cowards are poor excuses for human beings, IE: Bobby & Screwed.

All those two have, is their mouths- and the sh-t flows freely from them! Usually their mouths over run their tucked in tails

In Memoriam: David Hackworth
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

May 5, 2005

Col. David. H. Hackworth, 1930-2005
Legendary U.S. Army Guerrilla Fighter,
Champion of the Ordinary Soldier

by the Editors of DefenseWatch

Washington, D.C., May 5, 2005 - Col. David H. Hackworth, the United States Army’s legendary, highly decorated guerrilla fighter and lifelong champion of the doughboy and dogface, ground-pounder and grunt, died Wednesday in Mexico. He was 74 years old. The cause of death was a form of cancer now appearing with increasing frequency among Vietnam veterans exposed to the defoliants called Agents Orange and Blue.

Col. Hackworth spent more than half a century on the country’s hottest battlefields, first as a soldier, then as a writer, war correspondent and sharp-eyed critic of the Military-Industrial Complex and ticket-punching generals he dismissed as “Perfumed Princes.”

General Moore, the co-author of We Were Soldiers Once and Young, called him “the Patton of Vietnam,” and Gen. Creighton Abrams, the last American commander in that disastrous war, described him as “the best battalion commander I ever saw in the United States Army.”

Col. Hackworth’s battlefield exploits put him on the line of American military heroes squarely next to Sgt. Alvin York and Audie Murphy. The novelist Ward Just, who knew him for forty years, described him as “the genuine article, a soldier’s soldier, a connoisseur of combat.” At 14, as World War II was sputtering out, he lied about his age to join the Merchant Marine, and at 15 he enlisted in the U.S. Army. Over the next 26 years he spent fully seven in combat. He was put in for the Medal of Honor three times; the last application is currently under review at the Pentagon. He was twice awarded the Army’s second highest honor for valor, the Distinguished Service Cross, along with 10 Silver Stars and eight Bronze Stars. When asked about his many awards, he always said he was proudest of his eight Purple Hearts and his Combat Infantryman’s Badge.

A reputation won on the battlefield made it impossible to dismiss him when he went on the attack later as a critic of careerism and incompetence in the military high command. In 1971, he appeared in the field on ABC’s “Issue and Answers” to say Vietnam “is a bad war ... it can’t be won. We need to get out.” He also predicted that Saigon would fall to the North Vietnamese within four years, a prediction that turned out to be far more accurate than anything the Joint Chiefs of Staff were telling President Nixon or that the President was telling the American people.

With almost five years in-country, Col. Hackworth was the only senior officer to sound off about the Vietnam War. After the interview, he retired from the Army and moved to Australia.

“He was perhaps the finest soldier of his generation,” observed the novelist and war correspondent Nicholas Proffit, who described Col. Hackworth’s combat autobiography, About Face, a national best-seller, as “a passionate cry from the heart of a man who never stopped loving the Army, even when it stopped loving him back.”

Having risen from private by way of a battlefield commission in Korea, where he became the Army’s youngest captain, to Vietnam, where he served as its youngest bird colonel, he never stood on rank.

From the beginning his life was a soldier’s story. He was born on Armistice Day, now Veteran’s Day, in 1930. His parents both died before he was a year old and the Army ultimately stood in for the family he never had. His grandmother, who rescued him from an orphanage, raised him on tales of the American Revolution and the Old West and the ethos of the Great Depression. After the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, he got his first military training shining shoes at a base in Santa Monica, where the soldiers, adopting him as mascot, had a tailor cut him a pint-sized uniform. “At age 10 I knew my destiny,” he said. “Nothing would be better than to be a soldier.”

In Korea, where he won his first Silver Star and Purple Heart before he was old enough to vote. He was among the first volunteers for Korea and later for Vietnam, where he perfected his skill. “He understood the atmosphere of violence,” Ward Just observed. “That meant he knew how to keep his head, to think in danger’s midst. In battle the worst thing is paralysis. He mastered his own fear and learned how to kill. He led by example, and his men followed.”

Young officers in Vietnam and long afterwards, he presented an unforgettable profile in courage. “Everyone called him Hack,” recalled Dennis Foley, a military historian and novelist who first saw him in action with the 1st Battalion of the 327th Infantry in 1965. “He was referred to by his radio call sign of ‘Steel Six.’ He was tough, demanding and boyish all at the same time, stocky with a slightly leathered complexion. His light hair and deep tan made it hard for us to tell how old he was. He wore jungle fatigue trousers, shower shoes, a green T-shirt and a Rolex watch. In the corner of his mouth was a large and foul smelling cigar. As we entered the tent, he was bent over a field table looking at a map overlay and drinking a bottle of San Miguel beer.”

With Gen. S.L.A. “Slam” Marshall, he surveyed the war’s early mayhem and compiled the Army’s experience into The Vietnam Primer, a bible on a style of unconventional counter-guerrilla tactics he called “out gee-ing the G.” His finest moment came when he applied these tactics, taking the hopeless 4/39 Infantry Battalion in the Mekong Delta, turning it into the legendary Hardcore Battalion.
Within 10 weeks, the fiery young combat leader had so transformed the 4/39 that it was routing main force enemy units. He led from the front, at one point getting out on the strut of a helicopter, landing on top of an enemy position and hauling to safety the point elements of a company pinned down and facing certain death. Thirty years later, the grateful enlisted men and young officers of the 4/39, now grown old, are still urging the Pentagon to award him the Medal of Honor for this action. So far, the Army has refused.

He was presented the United Nations Medal for Peace.

As About Face was becoming a best seller, he returned to the United States to marry Eilhys England, his one great love, who became his business and writing partner. He became a powerful voice for military reform. From 1990 to 1996, as Newsweek magazine’s Contributing editor for defense, he covered the first Gulf War as well as peacekeeping battles in Somalia, the Balkans, Korea and Haiti. He captured this experience in Hazardous Duty, a volume of war dispatches. Among his many awards as a journalist was the George Washington Honor Medal for excellence in communications. He also wrote a novel, Price of Honor, about the snares of Vietnam, Somalia and the Military-Industrial Complex. His last book, Steel My Soldiers’ Hearts, was a tribute to the men of the Hardcore Battalion.

He was a regular guest on national radio and TV shows and a regular contributor to magazines including People, Parade, Men’s Journal, Self, Playboy, Maxim and Modern Maturity. His column, “Defending America,” has appeared weekly in newspapers across the country and on the website of Soldiers For The Truth, a rallying point for military reform. He and Ms. England have been the driving force behind the organization, which defends the interests of ordinary soldiers while upholding Hack’s conviction that “nuke-the-pukes” solutions no longer work in an age of terror that demands “a streamlined, hard-hitting force for the twenty-first century.”

“Hack never lost his focus,” said Roger Charles, president of Soldiers for the Truth. “That focus was on the young kids that our country sends to bleed and die on our behalf. Everything he did in his retirement was to try to give them a better chance to win and to come home. That’s one hell of a legacy.”

Over the final years of Col. Hackworth’s life, his wife Eilhys fought beside him during his gallant battle against bladder cancer, which now appears with sinister regularity among Vietnam veterans exposed to Agent Blue. At one point he considered dropping their syndicated column, only to make an abrupt about face, saying, “Writing with you is the only thing that keeps me alive.” The last words he said to his doctor were, “If I die, tell Eilhys I was grateful for every moment she bought me, every extra moment I got to spend with her. Tell her my greatest achievement is the love the two of us shared.”
. At a date to be announced, he will be buried in Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors.

Soldiers For The Truth is now working on legal action to compel the Pentagon to recognize Agent Blue alongside the better known Agent Orange as a killer and to help veterans exposed to it during the Vietnam War. ~~~~~~~~~~NOTE: And this is whom YOU would call a hack,bb?

Larry: I’ve got as much right to my opinion as you, and as much right to post it,too. After all,isn’t that what” fighting for our freedoms” is about? By your yardstick,Charlie Daniels oughtta just shut up,and keep fiddlin’-he didn’t serve in the military!Why should HE be discussing veterans affairs?Cause its good for CD sales?

NOTE: Looks like ole Charlie fiddles in whatever direction the political wind is blowin’ at the time.~~ddrb

Naaaahh—Country artists (with exception to the “Chicks” and anyone else who is trying to suck-up to the Hollywood elite to sell a few more records) are usually hard-core supporters of whoever is on the Republican ticket. ~~~~~~~~bbrd~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Daniels was an early supporter of Jimmy Carter’s presidential bid and performed at his January 1977 inauguration. ~~~~~~~Note:Was Jimmy Carter a Republican,too?

ddrb,

“By My Yard Stick”

You were not there, Ever! You can not relate -Ever!

Your opinion is worthless when it comes to veteran affairs.
Your an idiot to comment on something you know nothing of. ( you have no merit)

Stick to something you know,did,experienced & were physically there! 

It appears you know nothing -all you do is cut & paste articles written mostly by those that were NOT there.

Charlie Daniels- He’s a Patriot and loves his Country -unconditionally!

Your whining about others, as you always do here, is sickening. Thats the liberal Democrat thought process-"He/She did it, why cant I. Why cant I blame society on all my problems” “Why do I have to take personal responsibility”

Try your liberal B/S in a VFW, DAV, or American Legion Post-(if you even know what & where they are) bring screwd and “BOOBY” with you.

I’D love to watch !

Larry: I don’t know who in the hell you THINK you are ,or WHERE in the hell you actually you are, but NOBODY here died and appointed you in charge of this venue. Last time a checked there were neither Republicans,Democrats or atheists in the foxholes.Is this attitude the way you treated your fellow soldiers?

“I am not a liberal Democrat with a head full of pipe dreams, fueled by cannabis. Or a limey transplant......I am a Patriot, I chose to stand up for my country and preserve freedom.”
Larry in USN WWII (Ret)

Does this meant that Republicans (in the U.S.A) only defend their country and freedom? There were no Democrats ever present in any wars?  But wait. I think that I saw on 60 Minutes show years ago that most recruiting for the forces was from the poor (probably Democratic) areas. How can this be?

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I’D love to watch !

Me, too, Larry!

Disclosure: Like yourself and Kenbo, I’m a veteran, too.

Can’t wait to see how GG...er, I mean dd...digests that one.

ddrb,
I dont think anything- I know- I am a patriot and Veteran, I saw SIX years of combat action so that wind bags like you can spout of at the mouth without having a clue as to what their talking about. You got your freedom off the blood & backs of Veterans like me- show some appreciation and get off your high horse!

“Is this attitude the way you treated your fellow soliders”
ddrb

Absolutely not.  - Unlike YOU,---

They were/are Soliders, patriots and freedom fighters. They were THERE! They know.  And most of all, they LOVE their Country UNCONDITIONALLY!

YOU are none of these!

All that you contribute is your hot wind from a hot wind bag!
You know NOTHING about war or Veterans- your opinion is meaningless, worthless & without merit! So keep it to yourself! otherwise you look & sound foolish, senile & ignorant. (I’d say all three).

So just crawl back under your liberal rock and whine some more, maybe a pathetic “conscientious objector” will throw you a little “cheese”

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

1. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER THIS,
AS YOU OBVIOUSLY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF
THEM!

bbrd,
Thanks for the disclosure:

Salute to you, Vetrans and those that love this Country!

A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.” Tony Blair - on Why he loves America.

“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference
in the world. But, the Marines don’t have that problem”—Ronald Reagan

Larry: You attitude is a disgrace to your country and its citizens,many of whom have NOT served in the military,but support it with their taxes .You do NOT represent the military-you’re too busy representing your OWN bigoted self serving opinions.

Tony Blair was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and leader of the Labour Party. He resigned from the position in June 2007.

In January 2008, the Financial Times reported that Blair had agreed to become a part-time adviser to the global financial services firm JPMorgan Chase. The newspaper reported that Blair “will use his experience and contacts to provide political and strategic advice to the US bank and participate in some client events.” Blair resigned as leader of the parliamentary wing of British Labor Party in June 2007. While the fee for the position has not been disclosed, a New York recruitment firm suggested that it “was likely to be more than $1m (£500,000) a year.” Blair stated that he was looking at accepting “a small handful” of similar positions with other companies. “I have always been interested in commerce and the impact of globalisation. Nowadays, the intersection between politics and the economy in different parts of the world, including the emerging markets, is very strong,” he said.

Blair had been widely criticised from within his own party for championing the policy on Iraq of U.S. President George W. Bush. There is a general perception in the UK that Blair repeatedly misled the UK parliament and public in echoing the U.S. claims that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that invading and occupying Iraq was legal. As a result, some Members of Parliament have formed a group to call for IMPEACHENT hearings.

Further pressure was put on Blair in September 2004, during the UK Labour Party conference, when the London Evening Standard newspaper published details of a leaked Pentagon briefing paper, Operation Iraqi Freedom: Strategic Lessons Learned. The document reveals that in October 2002, the Pentagon finalized its Full Operational Battle Plan 1003V for the Iraq war, at a time when Blair was INSISTING that NO decisions had been made about whether to go to war.

Tony Blair is a member of the Fabian Society, the America APPG, and patron of the Foreign Policy Center.~~~~~~~Sourcewatch~~~~~NOTE: Intriguing that you would select Tony Blair for a quotation,considering his complicity in the “CONcerted"runup to the Iraq War; and now, Blair is a Divinity Professor at Yale, (WHAT IRONY),In addition to a global financial advisor for JPM-if that is still valid.( BTW, the Fabian society is a UK think tank aligned with the Labour Party,and was established as a SOCIALIST society ,FYI.)Gee, I wonder if GW will go teach religion after his departure from the White House?

Larry: You attitude is a disgrace to your country and its citizens,many of whom have NOT served in the military,but support it with their taxes .

Careful, girlfriend—you pick on one of us, you pick on all of us!

To paraphrase something JFK once said—what have you done for your country, lately?

(It’s a much bigger picture than just those in uniform and, no, your little stint on WMW doesn’t count, either)

For an idea of what influence the Fabian Society had upon American society,the following is of significance:~~~~~~~~~~

“In Reckless Hands: Skinner v. Oklahoma and the Near-Triumph of American Eugenics” ,by Victoria Nourse,demonstrates that Skinner also opens a window into a little-known chapter of American eugenics: how white prisoners at a hardscrabble prison in Oklahoma in the aftermath of the Depression ,led a sophisticated struggle to limit the practice of compulsory sterilization in the United States against poor white men in Oklahoma during the 1930s and 1940s and adds a new dimension to our understanding of class prejudices within the American eugenics movement.

Much has been written about the history of eugenics, but until publication of this book we knew little about how eugenic sterilization was used in prisons and against men, and even less about the views of its targeted victims.

At the core of eugenics was a belief in a central role of heredity in both determining and explaining social inequality. Influenced by 19th-century developments in genetics, medicine and public health, eugenics was not a crank science. At the height of its influence, support came from some unlikely ideological bedfellows. It was endorsed by FABIAN SOCIALISTS in England and racial scientists in Germany; linked to birth control and progressive economic reforms in Denmark, and to racial policies against itinerant gypsies in Sweden; an expression of Fascist ideology in Germany and Argentina, and of cultural hybridity in Mexico; and closely associated with the sterilization of those defined as “feebleminded” in Germany, the United States, Sweden and Denmark.

In the 1930s, Nazi Germany made eugenics an official state policy, first openly sterilizing hundreds of thousands of women, then secretly murdering many of its disabled and mentally ill patients judged leading “lives unworthy of life.” Until the onset of World War II, when selective murder turned into organized butchery, Nazi racial scientists were appreciated around the world, especially in the United States, where eugenics was dominated by RIGHT-WING hard-liners.

American eugenicists boosted “Anglo-Saxon” and “Nordic” types as the engine of modern society and promoted policies of apartheid to protect the “well born” from contamination by impoverished and mentally ill “degenerates.” Believing that social failure and success could be traced to “racial temperament,” its leaders advocated “positive eugenics” to increase the birthrate of privileged, white families, and “negative eugenics” to reduce the birthrate of groups considered a burden on civilization.

In addition to promoting Fabian, utopian visions of a brave new world and exploiting cultural anxieties about racial degeneracy, eugenic scientists were hands-on activists, campaigning against “miscegenation,” and in favor of welfare and immigration restrictions. Their greatest success in the United States during the first half of the 20th century was lobbying for the compulsory sterilization of 60,000 mostly poor women, considered “feebleminded” or “socially inadequate.”

But spurred by interest in the relationship between the new genetics and old eugenics, and by concerns about the misuses of science and medicine, a new generation of scholars is revising how we understand the timeline and scope of eugenics. ~~~~~~~~~~Alternet-June,2008~~~~~~NOTE: The ENTIRE review can be read at the aforementioned site.Other members of the Fabian Society were H.G. Wells and Bertrand Russell.Check out THEIR ideas for what society should and would look like!

I’m just trying to figure out how old Larry is. 6 years combat in WWII. The US declared War on Japan Dec.8 1941 & Germany on the 11th. The Germans Surrendered on May 7th 1945 and Japan on Sept 2nd -12th So that’s less than 4 years. Sombody help me out here.. From his post I’m pretty sure he fought on the US side…

ddrb,

Plain and simple: YOU and your kind are a disgrace to humanity!

Your liberal attitude is at the root to the erosion of what America stood & stands for.

If you dont Love this country LEAVE IT! Take that P.O.S. BOOBY & Screwed with you.

“If we ever forget that we’re One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.” ... Ronald Reagan

bb: Thanks for giving credence that posting the truth can be considered patriotic.And, BTW, some of us DON"T prostitute our personal and private patriotic efforts to score public praise or political gain. Its too intimate and personal for indiscrimant dissemination.

BOOBY,
here’s your help-
Being the limey you are, you forgot to factor in Korea.

ddrb,
There you go again letting the sh*t flow from the wind bag without knowing anything about veterans or their affairs!

I’m sure your husband/wife would appreciate the same attention you put into blogging B/S on here. It would probably go a lot further too.

Larry: I could say the same about you.

whine, whine ,whine- liberal- he/she did it why cant I. They got to do it why cant I.

your poor husband!

nag,nag,nag,nag!

now that I think about it he probably wishes/hopes you would spend all day and ALL night on the computer!

keep up your dialogue with anonymous the two of you are prefectly Paired!

Larry:That’s what John McCain’s financial advisor called ALL of us- a nation of whiners! You know,Phil Gramm, the architect of deregulating banks(GrammLeachBliley Act)-he oughtta know about whiners-he and the deregulated financial institutions created them! BTW, he had a lot to with Enron,too,coutesy of wife Wendy. Wouldn’t you like to hear the whining at THAT dinner table!

Their greatest success in the United States during the first half of the 20th century was lobbying for the compulsory sterilization of 60,000 mostly poor women, considered “feebleminded” or “socially inadequate.”
ddrb- speaking from- personal experience!

Larry: I think you have shown what you are made of-and its NOT the “right stuff”.I don’t believe you are military( you can’t even spell veteran, correctly). I don’t believe that anyone who served with either shipmates or fellow servicemen could ever harbor the hatred you do for those who are of a different race,color,or creed,as you do....especially if having served in combat together. I believe you have created a personna, thinking the military reference would wrap you in a veil of invincibility -a “pass” so to speak,when you unfurl your racially charged political diatribes. Think again…

Wow, calm down Larry. As far as I remember you’re on the anti-Wal*Mart side, yet you keep making this into some kind of political mumbo jumbo.... Which to a great degree it is. Thanks for filling in the blanks with the Korea thing. Now that I’m dead, it really doesn’t make that much difference. But I would hope that we can agree that America needs to come first. And I know, that you know just how great America is when it’s running on all it’s cylinders. I think that’s the root concern from all anti-Wal*Marters, even us dead ones. (I guess you could call me a Wal*Maryr). So lets all take a deep breath, let it out and tackle these Wal*Mart Wankers.

ddrb,
Whats wrong cutting & pasting one of YOUR articles and referring YOU to it, get to you?

I really Dont care what you think- or believe- Your opinion is worthless. My hatred is universal for anyone who puts this country down, in anyway. Spelling has nothing to do with it. Just another liberal spin. I know plenty of veterans who have problems spelling & reading, however our country accepted their service! I never claimed to be an English Proffessor.

As far as a Veteran, I’ve got the paper on the wall, Know where I have been and what I have done. I dont have to prove sh*t to anyone, especially the likes of you. I have earned the privilege to speak about veterans & Veteran affairs .

YOU, HAVE NOT!

What have you contributed to this country? Or society? Other than spewing your liberal garbage on here. (as bbrd would say your little (insignificant) stint on WMW doesnt count !)

My fellow shipmates were and are my comrades. To this day.

I will admit that Garbage like you, who runs off at the mouth without knowing what they are talking about disgusts me.
You contribute nothing to society or this blog. Just a bunch of cut & paste(s) that make you look ridiculous and most of all worthless.

Get a job, do something productive, even if it means spending some quality time with your husband. Even if you have to force yourself, you will appreciate it later.

Larry: I was under the impression that those who served in the military ,upon leaving the service, were of HIGHER character and caliber than when they initially went in. Your rhetoric is unbecoming to that of the military and represents the lowest,not the highest, that the armed services has to offer,or is capable of producing.( Ofcourse, there is always the possibility of psychological issues.)

Thats your problem ddrb YOUR always under an impression of one sort or another, Here are the impressions of REAL women and what they think about the American woman.

Top Ten Reasons Why American Women Suck

1) Selfish - to the point where they don’t know the difference between love of self and plain downright greed--and drilled into believing that whatever happens is the fault of whatever man is in their life because of the feminist crud drilled into them by the cadre of asexual closet cases called “therapists” who appear on “Ricki”, “Oprah” or other such electronic drivel

2) Deluded - into thinking they “deserve” a rich, model-handsome husband who will “take them away from all of this"--whatever the “this” might be--and leading to resentment when they discover that the universe does NOT revolve around them

3) Angry - ALL the damn time about things which are so far out of their control as to be nonsensical--and constantly wanting to “discuss” this mind numbing drivel ad nauseam

4) Psychotic - multiple personalities in the same woman - as “Nomad” put it in the “Star Trek” episode: “Woman...a mass of inconsistencies...”, and also when the feminist voices in their heads start with the regrets and victim acculturation

5) Worthless - anything that does not immediately resolve itself in her favor or to her benefit is meaningless to her, especially husband and family

6) Lazy - drilled into their head that they “deserve” a maid, nanny and personal slave to take care of every detail - and that their husband/boyfriend is REQUIRED to cater to their each and every mindless whim

7) Resentful - especially of other women who have things that they do not, in material, spiritual and esoteric senses

8) Greedy - to them, “housekeeping” means getting the house in the divorce (thanks to Zsa Zsa for that immortal line) and sucking the guy for every last cent, even if they had nothing to do with the building of the nest egg

9) Mindless - constant, irritating, idle prattle about topics they read about in some women’s magazine and then become instant experts--particularly pop psychology and the latest crap they see on “Oprah” or “Ricki”

10) Vain - believing that they are irresistible to everything in pants and therefore are allowed to behave sluttish and without any honor.

I think its safe to remove the word possibilty from the “possibilty of psychological issues”,in your case,"Larry".

Larry: What does this say about McCain,your candidate of choice, that he would choose a woman to be VP? Lots of those poison posts of yours above,sure sound a LOT like her,to me.

“poison posts”

I’d say ddrb is the queen of cut, paste & post the poison.

I’d also say those top ten reasons above. fit you to a Tee!

ddrb,

“What does this say about McCain,your candidate of choice, that he would choose a woman to be VP?”

Did you miss the part of Larry’s post, that talked about REAL women?

As for his 10 reasons, the reason you have a problem with them, is because YOU recognize that you fit the descriptions of all 10!!

RDS,
She read it, but chose to ignore it.
Then put a Liberal Spin on it to fit her screwed up whacked out- liberal thought process!

And AMEN on that, she does fit the descriptions of all 10- to a tee!

Pathetically, American women have been brainwashed into thinking that giving love and respecting men is somehow evil and wrong. No matter, American women can wallow in misery as much as they want. I will happily and respectfully court my Latin girlfriend and let independent and unfriendly American women enjoy their cats. - - - By LatinasOnly

Well, I suppose next thing you will be calling in Sarah Palin’s favorite witchdoctor ,Bishop Thomas Muthee from Mombasa, Kenya to do a ritual,like he did on Palin.( Just for your information,a video of him doing his incantation on Palin is on Huffington Post.) Talk 2 Action ,a religious website, has extensive info on this “witchdoctor” and the churches with who he is affilated.It’s called Third Wave.

Wasilla Assembly of God, where Sarah Palin attended until 2002 and continues to visit, and Juneau Christian Church, where Palin attends when in residence at the capital, have close links to major leadership and organizations in this movement.  The use of Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare to expel territorial demons is facilitated by Spiritual Mapping and then intercessory prayer and fasting.  The World Prayer Center in Colorado Springs developed by Wagner and Ted Haggard houses the computer systems for organizing the prayer intercessors as well as the Spiritual Mapping media. ~~~~~~~Talk to Action~~NOTE: I think most here are familiar with Ted Haggard from a few years back. It involved being exposed for hiring a gay prostitute and methamphetamine,in addition to being relieved of his MEGA church in Colorado Springs by ,after repeated denials of his guilt to both the media and his sizeable congregation.

ddrb,

“I think most here are familiar with Ted Haggard”

And, I think most here are also familiar with (Obama’s) Rev. Wright!!

RDS: Wright is NOTHING like Muthee,nor does his church engage in either the theology OR the practices of Palin’s and Muthee’s New Wave religion. Here’s some MORE info:~~~~~~~~~~~~The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form “Joel’s Army” to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.

While segments of this belief system have been a part of Pentecostalism and charismatic beliefs for decades, the excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General Council of the Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000. The beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of ‘strategic level spiritual warfare’ to expel territorial demons from American and world cities. Worship includes excessive charismatic manifestations such as hundreds of people falling, ‘slain in the spirit,’ and congregations laughing(Holy Laughter) ,jerking, and shrieking uncontrollably.

In early 2008 an outbreak of those phenomena commenced at the palatial former ministry estate of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, recently bought up and restored by prominent Third Wave author and leader Rick Joyner’s Morningstar Ministries. The (spiritual) “breakout” lasted for many weeks and was publicized in an extensive collection of video footage available on YouTube. Healing services in the Third Wave movement claim to heal the sick and injured through methods that in some cases can appear bizarre - including, as in recent cases involving Todd Bentley, the patient being head butted or kicked by the anointed healer. Recipients of such “spiritual” or miraculous healing make a wide range of astonishing claims - to have been cured of life-threatening illnesses, had joints repaired or replaced, been given gold teeth or gold fillings, regrown stunted limbs and even had deformed skeletal structures straightened and reshaped. Worldwide mission efforts of the movement are built around the idea of combating witches, warlocks, and generational curses, which prevent churches from being able to take root.

Thomas Muthee visited Wasilla Assembly of God and gave 10 consecutive sermons at the church, from October 11-16 2005. As both Palin and Wasilla AoG Head Pastor Ed Kalnins have attested, Thomas Muthee ‘prayed over’ Sarah Palin and entreated God to “make a way” prior to Palin’s successful bid for the Alaska governorship. Muthee made a return visit to the Wasilla Assembly of God in late 2008. Thomas Muthee’s Word of Faith Church is featured in the “Transformations” video which details an account on how Muthee drove “the spirit of witchcraft” out of Kiambu, Kenya, liberating the town from its territorial demonic possession and enabling a miraculous societal transformation.
The Third Wave, also known as the New Apostolic Reformation, is a network of Apostles, many of them grouped around C. Peter Wagner, founder of the World Prayer Center. This center, which was built in coordination with Ted Haggard and his New Life Church in Colorado Springs, was featured in an article by Jeff Sharlet in Harpers, May 2005, “Soldiers of Christ.” Sharlet was one of the first to write in the secular press about the World Prayer Center which is often referred to by those familiar with the Third Wave as the ‘Pentagon for Spiritual Warfare.’ It features computer systems that store the data of communities around the world, mapping out unsaved peoples’ groups and spiritual mapping information for spiritual warfare. Wagner has his own group of about 500 Apostles in his council and each of these Apostles has ministries under their authority, sometimes hundreds or thousands. Recently various networks of Apostles came together to form the Revival Alliance. Leaders of the Revival Alliance including Rick Joyner of Morningstar anointed Todd Bentley whose Lakeland Healing Revival has recently been a controversial topic in the Evangelical world.

Wagner’s top leaders often conduct spiritual warfare campaigns against the demons that block the acceptance of their brand of Christian belief, such as ‘Operation Ice Castle’ in the Himalayas in 1997. Several of their top prophets and generals of intercession spent weeks in intensive prayer to “confront the Queen of Heaven.” This queen is considered by them to be one of the most powerful demons over the earth and is the Great Harlot of Mystery Babylon in Revelation. (The “Great Harlot [or ‘whore’] of Mystery Babylon” theme also figures prominently in the sermons of Texas megachurch pastor and Christians United For Israel founder John Hagee, former endorser of John McCain’s 2008 presidential bid.) Wagner and his group also claim that the Queen of Heaven is Diana, the pagan god of the biblical book Ephesians and the god of Mary veneration in the Roman Catholic Church. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Huff Po

RDS: If Reverend Wright had been performing incantations and spelols over Barack Obama,ON VIDEO, or made the OUTRAGEOUS claims that Muthee has-and this Third Wave movement do- the main stream media would have ended Obama’s bid LONG ago. Speaking of “slutty” behavior,(Larry’s diatribe on American women) there is sworn testimony ,revealed this week, that Ms.Palin was conducting an adulterous affair with her husband’s business partner,some years back. I don’t know about you, but if this is the best that America has to offer up as a candidate,and this is an example of McCains judgment in selecting a VP, we’re in FAR bigger trouble than just the WallStreet debacle.God help us all, because the Repubes and their ilk certainly won’t.

Correction: That should read “spells” ,in the first sentence.

ddrb,

ALL religions have ‘weird’ practices, when being judged by another religion!!  I used to think it was ‘weird’ that my CATHOLIC friend, couldn’t eat meat on fridays!!  The acts of Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert, weren’t exactly what I would call normal for a ‘man of God’, just like the ‘molestations’ in the Catholic Church!!

“there is sworn testimony ,revealed this week, that Ms.Palin was conducting an adulterous affair with her husband’s business partner,some years back.”

If adultry was a reason to keep people out of the government, you would have to kick out about 1/2 of the current members!!  Remember Bill Clinton, or Ted Kennedy or JFK, to name a few?

Speaking about Ted Kennedy, did you notice during the debate tonight, John McCain mentioned about Ted being in the hospital, while Barack Obama, said nothing about it?

RDS: I noticed MANY things about the debate last night. Perhaps Obama DIDN"T pander about Kennedy like McCain did, BECAUSE Ted had already been released,(according to SEVERAL news sources) ,and was planning to watch the “debate” from the comfort of his OWN home. Too bad McCain never once mentioned the patient who is presently on life support----the middle class.

RDS: If its fair to judge Obama and his former pastor-with whom he has severed ties with Wright’s church,btw, it is more than fair to judge Palin who still is affiliated with these sects-and the political implications of that church’s beliefs upon national interests. Not to mention that her husband is a member of a secessionist sect in Alaska that promotes Alaska secede from the USA.

Todd Palin, The Former Secessionist, Suggests Alaskans Are Not Americans
- September 17, 2008 -

There’s been a lot of talk about Sarah Palin’s ties to the Alaskan Independence Party which the McCain campaign has been trying to minimize. In fact, for seven years, her husband, Todd, was a member of the fringe political party that advocates secession (he left in 2002, which happens to be the year his wife ran for lieutenant governor). But during last night’s (9/16/08) interview with Greta Van Susteren, Palin’s husband Todd explicitly distinguished “Alaskan families” from “American families.” It was a jarring suggestion that they’re not all part of the same country.

Palin responded, “I think they look at us as another Alaska family, that adapts to job situations and enjoys Alaska. So they can relate to us. You know, we’re just another family that, you know, juggles kids’ busy schedules, juggles jobs, and still has fun doing all that stuff. And so, you know, there’s, there’s lots of Alaskan families that do that and then really there’s a lot of American families that do the same.” ~~~~~~~~Newshounds~~~~~~~NOTE: Alaska,according to Sarh’s Third Wave beliefs is allegedly going to be the new Peomised land for"believers" in the end times. And this is an example of John McCain’s judgment as a VP candidate?

Palin spouse was member of states’ rights party
Todd Palin was twice registered with the Alaskan Independence Party

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Wed., Sept. 3, 2008
ST. PAUL, Minnesota - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states’ rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Sarah Palin herself was never a member of the party, according to state officials.

Todd Palin’s party affiliation emerged Tuesday as the latest issue confronting the McCain campaign as it prepared to introduce Gov. Palin to the Republican National Convention.

The McCain campaign on Tuesday forcefully worked to tamp down questions about Sarah Palin’s association with the Independence Party and with former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan that were being raised by Democrats, Internet bloggers and even Independence Party officials.

Voter registration records and past news reports, however, show Palin never registered as a member of the Independence Party, and backed Steve Forbes’ presidential campaign in 2000, not Buchanan.

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Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000. Some members of the party have advocated secession from the United States.

Sarah Palin registered as an independent
Voter registration records show Sarah Palin registered in May 1982 as a member of the Republican Party and has not changed her affiliation. Todd Palin has been registered undeclared since 2002, Fenumiai said.

Palin did address the Alaskan Independence Party’s state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks.

“Your party plays an important role in our state’s politics,” she said in the video, which is posted on the party’s Web site. “I’ve always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well.”

Obama spokesman Bill Burton objected to Rogers’ accusation of a smear. He pointed to comments by Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, who told ABC News that Palin and her husband, Todd, belonged to the party in 1994.

Obama advisers and surrogates have linked Palin to conservative former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan. An Associated Press story from Alaska, dated July 17, 1999, stated that Palin, then the mayor of the small town of Wasilla, was wearing a Buchanan button during a Buchanan visit to Alaska.

Buchanan or Forbes supporter?
But in a letter to the Anchorage Daily News a week later, Palin wrote: “When presidential candidates visit our community, I am always happy to meet them. I’ll even put on their button when handed one as a polite gesture of respect. ..(?). The article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla.”

A week after that, the Associated Press reported that Palin would serve as a co-chair of Forbes’ campaign.

Buchanan himself told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews last week that Palin “was a brigadeer in 1996 as was her husband ... They were at a fundraiser for me, she’s a terrific gal, she’s a rebel reformer.”

McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb disputed Buchanan’s claim, saying Palin supported Forbes in 1996 as well.

Still, the Miami Herald this week quoted an e-mail from Obama Florida spokesman Mark Bubriski that stated: “Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.”

More from msnbc.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ddrb,

“If its fair to judge Obama and his former pastor-with whom he has severed ties with Wright’s church,btw, it is more than fair to judge Palin who still is affiliated with these sects”

What does Ken V. always say about using the “they all do it, so it’s okay”!!

“Not to mention that her husband is a member of a secessionist sect in Alaska that promotes Alaska secede from the USA.”

“Todd Palin, The Former Secessionist”

Which is it, “her husband is a member” or “her husband, The Former member”?  Better ask Bill Clinton, what the words IS and FORMER mean!!

Which is it, “her husband is an American ” or is “her husband an Alaskan ”?  Better ask Todd Palin, what the words IS and FORMER mean!!

But during last night’s (9/16/08) interview with Greta Van Susteren, Palin’s husband Todd explicitly distinguished “Alaskan families” from “American families.” It was a jarring suggestion that they’re not all part of the same country.

Palin responded, “I think they look at us as another Alaska family, that adapts to job situations and enjoys Alaska. So they can relate to us. You know, we’re just another family that, you know, juggles kids’ busy schedules, juggles jobs, and still has fun doing all that stuff. And so, you know, there’s, there’s lots of Alaskan families that do that and then really there’s a lot of American families that do the same.” ~~~~~~~~Newshounds~~~~~~