Wal-Mart Wastes Food

I WORKED FOR WALMART FOR 13 YEARS AND I PERSONALY THROUGH OUT SHOPPING CART AFTER SHOPPING CART OF FOOD, BREAD MEAT CAKES ETC . WALMART IS AFAID THAT SOME POOR PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BUY AT THERE LOCAL STORE IN STEAD OF HELPING SOME ONE. IT IS A SHAME ,MAYBE IF LEE SCOTT WAS HUNGRY THEN PEOPLE WOULD GET SO HELP

They are afraid of being sued when someone gets sick, and who can blame them when they are everyones favorite target for a lawsuit.  Also not every grocer donates their food.  I work at another large chain and they always threw out there expired food too.

There are legal stopgapsi n place to protect merchants from potental lawsuits ,when donating food to charity or other veues.Walmart in all probability does this for tax write offs.

And this is a typical antiWalmart statement only this time by a disgruntled individual who is just too pissed off at Walmart to ever see what reality is like.  It makes no difference whether you are right or wrong in this world unless you have money.  If you have money then you must be bad and we must take it from you.  Typical antiWalmart crowd but what else is new around here.  What a sad bunch you antiWalmart crowd have become.

ddrb;

And, they don’t give tax write-offs for giving to charities, right? 

As for the stop-gaps, when it comes to lawsuits, stop-gaps become irrelevant to an emotional jury, bad food, is still what made the person sick.

And this is a typical antiWalmart statement only this time by a disgruntled individual who is just too pissed off at Walmart to ever see what reality is like.

A lesson in “reality” from someone so blind they can’t see the negatives of Wal-Mart. You’re not sad, Joe, you’re funny!

Here’s the gist of “disgruntled” douglas’s post....

WALMART IS AFAID THAT SOME POOR PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BUY AT THIER LOCAL STORE...

Sounds like the core prinicple of Wal-Mart’s business model: Buy from Slaves, Sell to Poor People. Care to challenge the reality of that?

That argument makes no sense though, if people are getting food from food banks they are not going to be buying it from Walmart whether Walmart is the one who donates it or someone else is.  As far as them throwing it away for the tax write off that really doesn’t make sense either since I’m guessing they would get a tax write off for donating it.  You know the whole charitable donation thing.

I would take meat,dairy products, bakery,etc.  back to the area thay came from and it would be marked down and thrown away.  All I could think of the people who starve and it could have been given to families in need.  I was told if it was put back in the cold bunkers it was cross contaminated and they could not have that in cases someone would get sick. Just because it was in a cart it was no longer good.  How does that grab you.

yea I can see it now.  Store takes back food from customer or locates expiring food then donates all of it to a local shelter or food bank.  Shelter or food bank then hands out free meals and food to people who need it.  Someone gets sick, and it may not even be the food that caused it, but has an “ambulance chaser” lawyer go after the food bank.  Realizing that the food bank has no money the lawyer looks to where the food bank got the food and sees Walmart on the source list.  Seeing MAJOR $$$$$$ talks client into sueing Walmart for causing the illness knowing it would never go to trial but instead settled out of court for alot of $$$$. 

Why, because as much as the lawyer knows he can’t prove anything, and knowing that Walmart doesn’t want bad press pointed their way, and even knowing that Walmart DONATED THE FOOD.  He does know that Walmart has alot of $$$$$ and he wants a cut of it.

Yea folks, it sucks because the poor and hungry could be helped more but in the legal society we live in it’s so much more difficult to help them.

You want to talk about the “negatives” of Walmart Ken?  Let’s talk about the “negatives” of our legal system that screw people and companies over every day.  This topic is a perfect example.

I see, that no one has even mentioned the fact that there is a reason that expiration dates exist in the first place!!  An expiration date is for the purpose of basically saying, THIS PRODUCT IS NO LONGER SAFE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION!!  If it were still good to eat, the store should still be able to SELL it!!  But, the reason they can’t continue to sell it, is because it no longer should be eaten and could make you sick!!  So, you people are saying that it is alright to give these products to food banks, knowing it is unfit and unsafe for human consumption, thus, ‘knowingly’ causing the possibility of making people sick, sounds like good grounds for a lawsuit to me!!

BTW:  How many lawyers are charitable enough to do these ‘class action’ cases PRO-BONO?

RDS

It’s Nick-in disguise! I missed posting here. I will try and stop back from time to time. At any rate, this is the typical Wal-Mart bashing post. Wal-Mart doesn’t give expired food to food banks? Oh, my! Let someone post here just what organized labor does with its’ billions in assets?

-How many food banks are supported by labor unions?
-Will the unions pledge to collect no more than $5 per year off Wal-Mart’s employees if they agree to a union? Surely, the union wouldn’t need more than $7.5 million per year to handle paperwork, should it?
-In fact, why do unions NEED that money at all? It’s not fair. We have starving people in America and these greedy unions have millions of dollars to give to Hussein Obama? Why aren’t they helping the poor? WAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Now, I am starting to sound like the Kool-Aid drinkers. The reality is, if Wal-Mart donates, they can be sued. When the give to charity, they are accused of trying to buy good publicity. When they don’t give, they are greedy.

Why won’t the union just say that the goal of this entire, $100 million smear campaign against Wal-Mart is to collect dues from 1.5 million US employees? That’s right, folks. Do the math:

1,500,000 employees. $50 initiation fee. $75 million to the union upfront.

THEN, say, $40 per month, per employee, in dues. This is $60 million per month, or $720 million per year in dues from Wal-Mart alone.

Out of this, let’s say that 25%, or $180 million, is actually spent on dealing with negotiations, membership issues, union wages and benefits. Where does the remaining $540 million (over $10 million PER WEEK) go? Perhaps to Socialist Democratic political candidates, where the UFCW has given more than 98% of their political contribution. Other areas in which we might see the money:

-$10 million for a “retreat and conference center” in Florida, complete with a golf course, hotel and fancy dining establishment.

-$6 million for a “training & education center”, which is a 14-room mansion in New Jersey.

-$54 million for “transportation costs” which will be a brand new Gulfstream 550 used by the leadership.

-A certain percentage to “consultants” for their hard work (ie. muscle).

And so on.

Like Hussein Obama’s Kool-Aid drinkers, most of the American people can be fooled. There are those of us, however, who can still think and reason.

We know the truth.

RDS--

“THIS PRODUCT IS NO LONGER SAFE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION!! “

Not quite.  It’s a sell-by date, not a consume by date.  You can safely drink milk for seven days past the date on the container. 

From what I’ve read, it really is a lawsuit issue.  They switched about two years ago due to concerns with being sued. 

First solution would be state by state statutes that protect charitible giving of food.  Unfortutately, I think states are going the othe direction.  There was a big deal in Minnesota a while back about the state food safety regulations effectively banning church potlucks.  I’m not sure how that one ended.

Second solution, and this is the one I would like to see, is for WM to just say ‘bring it on’ to the lawsuits and just give the food anyways. 

Finally, what about composting thown away food?  I don’t know a lot about composting, but wouldn’t this at least turn the food into something useful?

“It’s Nick-in disguise! I missed posting here. I will try and stop back from time to time....."~Nat

Hey Nick can probably only stop back time to time because he has to go to the library or the local internet cafe.
Anyway I guess we need to let Nick get back to his bulldozing technique where he thinks he is overwhelming us with information. Have another decaff Nick so you don’t get too wired for sound.

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Is there a best before date on all of the lead painted toys that Lead-Mart brought into North America? Walmart has been at the front of the line when it comes to forcing our products to be produced in China.

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Scott,

“Not quite.  It’s a sell-by date, not a consume by date.”

But, a ‘class action’ lawyer would be arguing that the foodstuff, was EXPIRED!!

Then, there is this point, something I know that the anti side doesn’t want to hear:  Wal-Mart is a “For Profit” business and every loaf of bread that is given away, is 2 loaves of bread NOT SOLD!!

I realize that the anti group HATES the idea that a company gets BIG and still tries to make a PROFIT, but, the fact is, that Wal-Mart is a ‘for profit’ business and not a charity!!  The anti group would like to see Wal-Mart become a welfare type charity that:

1. Hires ALL unemployed people at $20.00 an hour, with SUPER benefits,

2. Open their doors and give things away for free, to the poor,

3. Buy only American products, even though they are more expensive,

4. Make sure all suppliers are paid twice as much, so that they can do the same as 1 & 2 above in their businesses,

5. And, lastly, make a better profit than last year, while doing all of the above 4 things.

No business can sustain, using the suggestions given by the Anti Wal-Mart group!!

RDS,

Don’t get me wrong, I think the whole situation is fouled up by lawyers. 
If it wasn’t for them, WM would still be donating all food to food banks.

I don’t think the situation is going to change, but I would like to see Wal-Mart say “ok, screw it, we’re giving the food away regardless of what the lawyers say,” and then fight every lawsuit that arises from doing so.

I’ve got a better idea.  How about Walmat say “ok, screw it, we’re giving the food away regardless of what the lawyers say” BUT have a waiver signed by the food banks that holds UCFW liable for any lawsuits.  Put up or shut up.  Walmart would certainly be doing their part in donating food.  Would the UCFW step up to the plate the assume all legal liabilities?

“disgruntled” douglas’s post....

Face it, “disgruntled douggie” must be pretty dumb to post his name and store number.

Anyone who has been around the block awhile (including resourceful WM managers), knows that WMW is usually one of the first 10 results that will appear when you run “Wal-Mart” on any internet search engine.

Either “douggie” is dumb, or, he is yet, another WMW fake for our reading enjoyment.

Either “douggie” is dumb, or, he is yet, another WMW fake for our reading enjoyment.

I’ll admit it’s hard to defend the intelligence of someone that stayed with Wal-Mart for 13 years, but....

I WORKED FOR WALMART FOR 13 YEARS...

It’s WORKED, bbrd, past tense. What “yet, another WMW fake(s)” have you spotted so far?

The thing is some of the food is bad and some of it is still okay for a day or two.  I see MASSIVE amounts of produce being thrown out.  It just gets dumped in the hole in the wall in the back (what we call the trash compactor).  A lot of this is because the people that order are idiots and order MASSIVE amounts of PERISHABLE food.  The manager in charge of produce at our job tries to still sell food that is bad and if it wasn’t for the night crew in produce it probably would.  Not to mention the fact that if wasn’t for them nothing would be properly rotated.  Apparently our store isn’t too concerned with a lawsuit.  I’ve actually seen stuff come from the warehouse with fungus on it.

People that go to food banks are people in need.  I mean, how many people go to food banks that don’t need to?  Do any of you?  It’s not like people are going to go “Nah, I’m not going to the store, I’m going to get day-old bread and bananas that are black instead for free.” Maybe there can be some kind of legal waiver, or whatever, I don’t know.  What I DO know is that Wal-Mart writes it off.  It’s just a shame that all that food gets wasted when there are people without any or without enough or who are reduced to eating, toxic, low-grade edible poison disguised as food with no real nutritional value.

By the way, the man’s name is BARACK Obama, NOT Hussein Obama.  You talk about “kool-aid drinkers” in one breath and then show that you are incapable of rational or original thought by repeating stupid, lame, wing-nut talking points.  Wal-Mart is becoming more and more of a monopoly daily.

Generic;

Seems like if it weren’t for Walmart, you would be one of those “people without any or without enough”.  If you consider yourself a ‘wageslave’, why don’t you quit and give one of those “people without any or without enough”, a chance to have a job, bet they would appreciate it more than it sounds like you do, it must be rough, being a ‘slave’.

...why don’t you quit...

If you understood the definition of wage slave you wouldn’t have to ask that question, Charles.

wage slave: noun - a person who works for a wage, esp. with total and immediate dependency on the income derived from such labor. ~ Dictionary.com

The “total and immediate dependency” is why a wage slave can’t quit.  Who knows, Charles, you may well be a wage slave yourself!

Ken V,

Using that definition, almost ALL working people are ‘wage slaves’, as they wouldn’t be working, if it weren’t for “total and immediate dependancy”!!

I don’t know Charles, what do you think the answer to that question is?  What would happen if I did that?  Read Ken V’s response.  I am grateful for having a job but that’s not the point, nor do I think that EVERYTHING about Wal-Mart is bad.  One thing I know is that I wouldn’t be able to count on Wal-Mart to donate food to the food bank that I would have to go to.

That’s exactly what it means RDS (unless you work for yourself, belong to some kind of cooperative, or are independently wealthy).  You might not agree with that assessment philosophically, but that’s the concept and that’s what I feel like.

Using that definition, almost ALL working people are ‘wage slaves’...

Not true. That’s the point. If you make enough money to ‘get ahead’, i.e. create a nest egg, you have a cushion against ““total and immediate dependency”, something completely unknown to a wage slave. You know, hand to mouth.

Ken V,

Now I’m confused again, Generic Wal-Mart Wageslave says, “That’s exactly what it means” and you say, “Not true.”!!  The problem with your definition, is that it implies that there are many workers that can’t save ANY money (create a nestegg), or get ahead!!  But, the fact is, whether or not a person can save some money, depends on their spending choices, ALL people should be able to save money for their future, with ‘good’ money management!!  I know enough ‘poor’ people, to know that the reason they are ‘poor’, is not because they don’t make enough money, but rather, because they have a tendancy to NOT be very good money managers!!  Fast food and tavern nights are a big part of their budget, which could be put into savings if they chose to!!  Also, ‘delayed gratification’ is something they have a problem with, everytime their money supply ‘exceeds’ their bills, they tend to treat themselves to things they usually can’t afford normally, rather than use it to pay down high interest bills or put it in a savings account!!  That’s why most of them are referred to as the ‘un-banked’, who use payday loans services, lay-a-ways, and money orders to deal with their monthly finances!!  One only has to go to “feed the pig.com” to find out how to better manage money, if they choose to and then DO IT!!  You wouldn’t believe how much money ‘poor’ people WASTE!!

...Now I’m confused again...

Boy, are you!

ALL people should be able to save money for their future, with ‘good’ money management!!

You can’t manage what you don’t have. To quote the old Jimmy Dean song… “another day older and deeper in debt”.

All you wage slaves out there, stop buying food and start a 401K.

Give me a break.  Half the people that I work with that are poor smoke.  That’s at least $35 a week or close to $2000 a year.  That would make a nice nest egg.  Also pretty much all of them go out drinking on their days off and have no problem dropping 50-100 at the bar each weekend.  That adds up quite a bit as well.  There are also many other bad financial decisions that they make.  I had one guy talking about how he and his wife went out and spent a bunch of money because they had $700 left in their checking account that month after they paid their bills.  That is the mentality of the majority of Americans today.  Gotta spend everything they get for bigger and better things.  IF you don’t like your job it is your own fault.  I don’t think there are any laws against you looking for a job while you are employed, and then quitting your current job once you have found a better one, or a different one since most these people are never happy and think the grass is always greener.

That is the mentality of the majority of Americans today.

A little pompous sounding, don’t you think?

“If we don’t take steps to reconnect productivity growth and living standards, eventually the vast majority will feel little reason to support an economic system that’s failing to return a fair share of the growth they themselves are creating.” ~ Jared Bernstein

I explained what I meant by wageslave - I can’t speak for anyone else.  Also, for your information I have a hard time saving money because I don’t make a lot.  However, I AM good with money, barely spend anything on myself and try to save what I can.  I can be downright cheap when I want to - it’s just a matter of knowing what to be cheap with and what not to.  Also, I have tried to find another job in the past and tried to get ahead and am currently looking right now.  Your ideas are simplistic and self-righteous.  As Ken V points out you can’t save what you don’t have.  It’s true that a lot of poor people make poor financial decisions but so do people with money.  In fact, some people with a low income are masters of stretching their dollar and if you put a lot of people who are accustomed to living better into that same situation they wouldn’t know WHAT to do.

Anyway, regardless, I am still a wage slave in my opinion (I’m a hard worker, too by the way) and I would be if I quit and worked for anyone else because I don’t own my own business or work for myself, barely own anything, and don’t belong to a cooperative of any kind, hence the name.  Feel free to agree or disagree but I can’t make it anymore clear.

Also, I know that Wal-Mart wastes food which was the original topic.  Hope that clears everything up.  Have a nice day.

I explained what I meant by wageslave - I can’t speak for anyone else.  Also, for your information I have a hard time saving money because I don’t make a lot.  However, I AM good with money, barely spend anything on myself and try to save what I can.  I can be downright cheap when I want to - it’s just a matter of knowing what to be cheap with and what not to.  Also, I have tried to find another job in the past and tried to get ahead and am currently looking right now.  Your ideas are simplistic and self-righteous.  As Ken V points out you can’t save what you don’t have.  It’s true that a lot of poor people make poor financial decisions but so do people with money.  In fact, some people with a low income are masters of stretching their dollar and if you put a lot of people who are accustomed to living better into that same situation they wouldn’t know WHAT to do.

Anyway, regardless, I am still a wage slave in my opinion (I’m a hard worker, too by the way) and I would be if I quit and worked for anyone else because I don’t own my own business or work for myself, barely own anything, and don’t belong to a cooperative of any kind, hence the name.  Feel free to agree or disagree but I can’t make it anymore clear.

Also, I know that Wal-Mart wastes food which was the original topic.  Hope that clears everything up.  Have a nice day.

Ken V: You guys forgot to include the cost of medicine as a reason for poverty,and medical bills. Hey,cut out your meds and food,and start a savings account-buy some WalMart stock! LOL....

Generic: The only way some of these jokers can ever stand taller, is on the backs of their fellow men (and women).. DON’T feel you have to justify yourself to these individuals -this is THEIR only chance to create the illusion of superiority themselves.

Correction: That should have read-"-this is THEIR only chance to create the illusion of superiority FOR themselves.”

Maybe if the gov quit giving soc sec to people that can already live very well on their income,even those losers that claim they earned it,but don’t need it. They are the ones sucking the soc sec dry. Raise the start age to 75.

I know, I would make a lot more if my insurance didn’t cost so much.  The bad thing is you can’t drop it or switch to a cheaper plan once it’s locked in until next “open enrollment” which is a year after choosing it.  The cost went up and I should have dropped it when I had the chance but certain other financial situations changed so that’s a huge chunk out of each paycheck.  I also have a little taken out of each check for stock.

I know that I don’t have to justify anything to anyone but sometimes you have to let people know that they’re superiority is all in their heads and that they’re full of it.  Hey, I know, maybe Wal-Mart should donate some of that food that they’re wasting to their workers so that they can save money.

Dave,

Notice how when trying to defend ‘poor’ spending habits, Ken V. and ddrb mention giving up food and meds, while disrgarding smoking and drinking!!  Guess smoking and drinking are ‘Necessities’ and the only way a person can save, is to give up food and meds!!

Alice,

“Maybe if the gov quit giving soc sec to people that can already live very well on their income,even those losers that claim they earned it,but don’t need it.”

Gee, a person pays into a fund for 45 years and because they end up a ‘loser’ who can afford it, they should give that money to all the ‘winners’ who are broke, right?  Nice thinking and shows where your mentality lies, you must be one of those ‘winners’ who want to latch on to the ‘losers’ money, because YOU didn’t do what was needed to becomer one of those ‘losers’!!

RDS: Where in the hell do you see in my post that I am defending people spending money on smoking and drinking?Show me where I said that-YOU CAN’t,cause I Didn’t!I would like you to show just where Ken defended those habits,also.....there are plenty of people on fixed incomes who can’t afford both food and medicine....and they don’t smoke or drink!

ddrb,

And, you show me where I said that you and Ken defended smoking and drinking!!  What I said, was that you “ mention giving up food and meds, while disrgarding smoking and drinking”!!  People on fixed incomes, who can’t afford both food and medicine, need to find a way to get more income, not just sit around with their hands stretched out!!  Thing is, how did these people get to that position in the first place, usually by making ‘bad’ choices in life, and who’s fault is that?

Tell me something, if a person didn’t save for the future when they were young or EVER, what do they expect, to be rolling in dough when problems come up later in life?

One other thing I forgot to mention before, is that many of those people’s meds, include WEED, METH, and COKE, which can eat into your budget quite fast, so I can see where they might have a hard time affording food!!

You can try to pretend, that people don’t smoke, drink or do drugs and those things DON’T cause problems, in your fantasy world, where people just have ‘bad luck’, but, I’ve seen it happening all the time here in the ‘real’ world!!

It all seems so simple! You Wal-Mart associates don’t need a union. All you need is to get off “WEED, METH, and COKE” and financial security is yours!

RDS, you are a piece of work.

I understand people for a short time being a “wage slave,” but people expect other people to make their lives better.  That is the problem with all the well fare and government handouts; people have a sense of entitlement and don’t expect to have to work their way up or change anything to improve their status.  If it is so terrible get a second job for a while save up some money and go to college.  There are quite a few fields that you can get into that pay good money with only a two year degree.

Ken V,

Here is what I know first-hand, I used to drink and lived paycheck to paycheck, always being behind, mainly because my mind focused on what party I was going to on the weekend, instead of doing my job, not to mention the days off because of a being sick from a hangover!!  When I stopped drinking, and focused on getting ahead, my life changed and I was able to retire at age 60!!  You can call that ‘stupid’ and think that drink and drugs don’t affect people lives, but I just happen to think you are wrong!!

Think about this:  If you spend $20 a week on drink or drugs, and put that money in a savings account instead, starting at the age of 20, after 45 years, you would have $46,800.00 plus interest or roughly $50,000.00!!  And, while that is not a fortune, it’s better than having a ‘bad’ liver at age 65!!

...I used to drink...

I’m sure your personal confessions are the hit of AA meetings, RDS, but not every wage slave is a dry drunk.

As usual, you project your own circumstances onto others.

Apparently ALL low-income workers are alcoholics or drug addicts or both and if they would just kick their addictions then they would be able to have lots of money to save.  Now, excuse me while I go down my fourty of malt liquor and smoke my cocaine-laced joint while shooting up crystal meth mixed with heroin and ecstasy (I hope that it’s good stuff - I spent the rent and food money on it - as well as my extra disposable income that I should be saving and investing with).  I sure wish someone would come and give me a handout to buy more of it - it’s not like I work for a living or anything.

Think rds s renters can afford to save money,while lining his pockets ,of course they are just dumb, because they aren’t as smart as rds. With him it is all about me,me,me.

Okay, all you people are right, NO one smokes, drinks or does drugs, it’s all an illusion and these problems don’t exist!!  Guess the government is spending millions of tax dollars on the “War on Drugs” for nothing, on a fantasy!!  Denial, is a sure sign of addiction, “Drinking is a problem?, I have no problem drinking, I do it all the time”, is the great excuse!!

And, NO, not ALL ‘poor’ people do drugs, smoke and drink, but, the majority of them do!!  But, they DO all make poor financial decisions, if the didn’t, they wouldn’t be ‘poor’!!

POP,

NO, It’s NOT ALL about ME, it’s about the MILLIONS of people who somehow manage to exist without HELP and their hands out forever!!  I was just using first-hand experience to explain something!!

As far as lining my pockets from my renters, fact is, I LOSE money every year off my rentals and if it weren’t for the ‘bad’ housing market, they would be up ‘For Sale’ tomorrow!!  Buy a duplex yourself and see how much YOU make renting it out, if it weren’t for equity building, NO one would rent out an apartment building!!

RDS: “But, they DO all make poor financial decisions, if the didn’t, they wouldn’t be ‘poor’!!”....Tell that to the folks who invested in Enron,or who invested in pension plans that went bust-where does fiduciary trust and personal responsibility diverge?

Of course people drink and do drugs (which is why the “war on drugs” is a fantasy and why prohibition didn’t work) but people from ALL social classes drink and do drugs and for some people it isn’t the CAUSE of not having enough it’s a symptom of it (although we both know that it’s a perpetual cycle).  However, it’s absurd to just say “People are poor because they get drunk and high and or they make poor financial decisions.” Of course that’s the case with some people and that’s the point - SOME people, not all.

Generic: Touche! And just think,with WalMart being the TOP purveyor of alcohol in the country,why would WalMart WANT to see alcohol prone people to stop buying their booze form WalMArt or Sam’s? When have you EVER seen a no smoking or no drinking reference in the Save More .Live Better. WalMart ads?

“Tell that to the folks who invested in Enron”

Investing a large portion of your savings in the company that you work for IS a bad financial decision.  If your company gets into trouble, you’ll be out of a job and lose your retirement, and the government bails out most pension plans.

How come no one touched my comment about getting a second job for a while and saving money and going to school.  I know you want to be able to make millions without putting in any effort, but apparently some of the better paying jobs require at least some schooling.  I want to hear the excuses why it isn’t possible.

Actually, I’ve been thinking of getting a temporary second job for a while to either pay off some debts or save a little bit or both and/or buy some stuff that I want.  I work with several people on my shift that work two jobs out of necessity.

Thanks Dave, anybody with half a brain knows that you don’t put ALL of your ‘nest egg’ in one basket!!

Gerneric,

Good for you!!  You will find out, that debt grows, like a snowball rolling downhill, but savings grows like a snowball being rolled uphill!!  The larger debt gets, the more INTEREST you have to pay out, and, the larger savings gets, the more INTEREST you get PAID!!  Which do you choose (choice), to pay more interest or get more interest?  You’ll find, that it is easier having your money work for you, than to have to work for your money and smarter working with your brain, than your back!!