Wal-Mart’s Business Practices Still Dog Hillary Clinton

IF HILLARY WINS WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE’LL GET!

Clinton sold out to the insurance companies and to the Pharmaceutical companies! She has sold labor down the river with her views on NAFTA and CAFTA as well as the fact that she was on the board of the largest union busting company in the world, WAL-MART. She stood up for torture and an ILLEGAL war for OIL! She is NO friend of labor! Once a Goldwater girl......

When John Edwards stepped out of the race (even though that it was inevitable) I still found myself choking back my emotions. I pray that Edwards throws his support to Obama and they end up the party ticket. I know that Screwed by doesn’t think that this will happen, but I hope that he’s WRONG!

Being a union member and pro labor all my life I can’t and will not vote for Hillary in this primary. However, should she win the primary, she’ll have my vote against the REPUBLIPUKES.

Keep Your Eye on “The Republipukes,” Big D!

I think the Republicans would rather have their candidate square off against Hillary as opposed to Barack Obama.  Look for them to start attacking Obama big time

I’ve said it at least twice.  If Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, It’s over!  The next president will be a Republican.

Hillary Clinton:  A wolf in she’s clothing.

“If Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, It’s over!  The next president will be a Republican.” Screwedby.

I can’t argue that with you, but I can say that I hope for the sake of the working people of this country that you are WRONG! 

“ Hillary Clinton:  A wolf in she’s clothing.”

I couldn’t agree more! But I do think that she would be better than more of the FAILED Republipuke policies. I also believe that if she does become President she will at least make an effort to throw a few more bones to the working people of this country than say, McCain and defiantly more than that talking head Romney!

Speaking of Wolf in sheep’s clothing. How about that bastard Lieberman! I have been calling him a Republipuke for 10 years; he sure has proven my point lately!

All I can say is ,give her a chance. People change I know I did I was very much an anti union person at one time in my life and I changed. I am now a CUPE and very proud of that fact.
So who knows maybe she’s changed as well.

GO HILLARY - OUEEN OF THE DEMOCRAPS.

Yeah, but what about that news footage last night of Hillary showing her giving the SEIU ground troops a big hug?

Yeah, but what about that news footage last night of Hillary showing her giving the SEIU ground troops a big hug?

Big D: I think that would be the lesser of the two evils-she or the other side of the ledger(Republicans). Although with her corpporate ties to WalMart,I consider her virtually indistinguishable from the anti labor ,big business lobbyists and the party they service.Corporate canine lapdog training results in a lifetime of loyalty to their corporate masters,they never forget where the bones come from,nor bite the hand that has fed,or continues to feed them. Where has been any “barking back” at big business,SINCE Hillary has been a Senator? Where has been ANY effort to raise wages-correct me if I’m missing some info,I welcome it. I certainly will give credit re: Issues of health care.But, if she wants to be Top Dog,first she’ll need to muzzle Billand keep him on the porch.

Arguing with Hillary haters is a no-win situation (I know I’ve tried), but in this case the hate exceeds the logic of the situation.

1. It was over 20 years ago. People change, would you prefer they didn’t?

2. Hillary saw her mandate to work for the opportunities of women at Walmart. The video clip shows Sam Walton acknowledged this and claimed they would do better in the future. In other words Hillary had put something on the agenda that hadn’t been there before.

3. One (let’s face it token) board member can’t reform everything. She chose to focus on women’s conditions. So people are angry that she didn’t also focus on child labor and union busting? How many battles do you think one person can conduct at once?

4. Since she has left unions like the SEIU, with over one million members, have not made any progress with organizing Walmart or improving working conditions, yet you expect Hillary to have done something that this huge group hasn’t been able to do? Get real.

You don’t like Hillary, fine. But don’t try to blame her for all the ills of society. She’s not Wonder Woman.

I’ll cite an example from the other side. The religious right has made it a core requirement that abortion be banned. They have focused millions of dollars, voted for candidates who promised to “do something” and yet, after 30 years, abortion is still legal. What was the matter with DeLay, Gingrich, Bush and the rest of them that they didn’t deliver what they promised?

Were they lying about their intentions, or is it that social change doesn’t alway happen the way some groups would like? Or is it that since a majority of people are satisfied with the current situation there is no political power able to push through a minority position?

We can expect to see a similar situation with regard to Iraq “withdrawal”. No matter what the candidates say now, what they will do in the future will depend upon conditions at that time. If people want to hear promises that can’t be guaranteed then they are asking to be deceived. Just remember we still have troops in Germany and Korea, and it’s over 50 years since fighting ended.

Who Are You Trying To “Deceive,” robertdfeinman?

Are you trying to get us to believe that good, honorable, hardworking, Hillary took her position on the Wal-Mart board so that she could “reform” the company from within and that she would have accomplished more had she not been just a “token?”

No… Hillary was there only for what it meant to the political aspirations of Bill and herself.  Period!  If Wal-Mart was merely “using her,” it would make you wonder how she’d be used if she ever became the President of the United States.  I had a hard time just typing that.  It’s NOT that I don’t think this country is ready for a woman president.  It’s just not ready for that woman!

And yes, now that you mention it, she is “Wonder Woman.” I wonder what that woman really stands for?

rdf: Mr. Feinman I read your post on WOTW ,similar to your above post. I couldn’t agree with you more about rhetoric-Talk is cheap-but when the duplicitous double talk results in political policy that diminishes or disenfanchises the VERY people who put the candidate in power,the poltical rhetoric carries an expensive,reality price tag ,indeed., Example-G.W: Bush-I recall the “compassionate conservative position,no nation building ,campaign promises.Well,we know where that got ALL of us,now don’t we? I for one have been astounded at the deafening silence,the lack of outrage from the allegedly “moral conscience” driven voters over atrocities committed under his watch-is morality only about reproductive rights? I believe the adage to look at what they do,and what they’ve done and not believe everything they say ,or say they will do.I never have been a “Pillory Hillary” person,but it would be folly,IMHO, to not take a second look. I believe it has great merit to think that with her corporate and political entree to the ‘sanctum sanctorums’ of the world,she could have done more for the working class.I have difficulty with reconciling her as President,espousing our country’s positons and values,while her husband is out gathering $$$$ from others , for his foundation,whose values are (allegedly) in diamteric opposition to ours.(NY Times story about Bill and Candian mining exec and Uranium. )Now that would give a new twist to the old adage of saying one thing and doing another!

P.S. : One of the best series of articles re: Hillary can be found in the archives of the Village Voice.Ward Harvaky did an excellent piece in May,2000,entitled “The First Lady of WalMart”.( The Brian Ross ABC text seems almost verbatim from the Village Voice article,at least to me,IMHO.)

Screwed:
I already said it was pointless to argue with Hillary haters, but do you understand anything about how boards of directors operate?

You do realize that she was put on the board so that Walmart could garner favor with her husband, the governor. She could have just sat there and done nothing, but instead she took up a cause. Now what are you complaining about that she was appointed, that she tried to do something, or that she managed to do very little?

Boards of directors are window dressing, and especially at a firm like Walmart where the family owns a controlling interest. So would you have preferred that she turn down the job because of some moral principle?

The appointment worked both ways, Walmart is the biggest employer in the state, don’t you think it would be useful for the governor to have someone on the inside telling him what was going on?

Do you really think the Clintons were thinking of political aspirations 20 years ago? The idea that she would be running for president at this time was beyond belief, or even that he would run and win.

Some day someone will explain to me this visceral hate of the Clintons and especially Hillary. I just don’t get it. Does your world view require a villain that gets blamed for all the ills of society? Such simplistic views of the world is how we end up with racial, ethnic and tribal conflicts. People are hated for who the are, rather than for what they have done.

It’s an old story and it usually works. Look at the immigration issue. 3% of the population is being blamed for everything from low wages, to runaway medical costs, to “high” crime. Scapegoating people may make you feel superior, but it never leads to a realistic solution since the scapegoats are not the ones causing the problems.

Those who foster this attitude do get to benefit. While the working classes are battling each other they continue raking in the money.

rdf: Some people require a villain only by which to define themselves ,but also,by comparison, to deflect and dilute their own sins and indiscretions-i.e., “Well,I’m not as bad as so and so,” mindset.Your comment about dividing and conquering the working class reminded me of past references to plantation politics-( BTW,it was illegal for slaves to even learn to read .) WalMart has often been accused of possessing having a plantation mentality.Maybe,maybe not. But most assuredly ,corporate,elitist disdain for the working class in this country IS tantamount to hating people for what they ARE,rather than what they have DONE ,IMHO.

If It’s So Pointless, Why Are You Here Again?

“I already said it was pointless to argue...”

***so that Walmart could garner favor with her husband

***Boards of directors are window dressing

Way to state the obvious.

“So would you have preferred that she turn down the job because of some moral principle?”

YES!

“Do you really think the Clintons were thinking of political aspirations 20 years ago? ”

You mean to tell me the Clintons were planning to retire to a log cabin in Arkansas when his term as governor was up?

robertdfeinman,

Two fine posts!!

“unions like the SEIU, with over one million members, have not made any progress with organizing Walmart”

These people are so convinced, that they are RIGHT, they can’t fathom, that just maybe, even the employees of Wal-Mart, may not agree with them, so they tend to attack Wal-Mart as being the villian here!!

“Does your world view require a villain that gets blamed for all the ills of society?”

To people like Ken V. and Screwedby, this is true!!  They have stated many times, that their agenda, is not to ‘fix or repair’ what they consider a bad situation, but rather they want to ‘destroy’ the villian (Beast of Bentonville) and after that, attack the next ‘villian’ (Target) and ‘destroy them, until all ‘big box’ retailers have disappeared!!  When a person or group holds this agenda, they tend to find fault with everything their so-called villian does, whether it be positive or negative, it’s all the same to them, as neither promotes their agenda of destruction!!  Thus, they become agitators, instead of problem solvers, they are akin to those, who at a peaceful rally, throw rocks at the police or opposite side protesters, thus changing the rally from peaceful into a riot!!  They choose to ‘tear apart’, rather than ‘bring together’ and nothing gets settled in a positive manner under that senerio, because of their actions!!  They are the real “beasts”, who demand people to THINK like them and those who don’t are ‘evil’!!

RDS:

You certainly twisted my meaning!

What I meant by comparing Hillary’s (lack of) success in getting Walmart to treat women more fairly with SEIU’s similar lack of success was that it is very difficult to get things changed even when a lot of people are engaged in the effort.

If you think that the reason that Walmart remains non-union is due to the wishes of employees you are totally mistaken. You might want to check the record on how many times Walmart has been fined for labor violations, for example.

Right now the nation is going through another of the periods where business, the legislature and the courts all work against the interests of organized labor.

It’s not quite as bad as during the early part of the last century where the firms could call on Pinkerton men and the National Guard to break strikes (and heads), but all sorts of obstacles are still thrown in the way of workers.

Polls indicate that 60% of workers would join a union if they had the opportunity.

I don’t know what the goals of the others who say critical things about Walmart are, but as for myself and my fellow bloggers at The Writing on the Wal what we want to see is a more responsible Walmart, not no Walmart.

In case you don’t remember why Walmart is the focus, it is because they are the biggest, they treat employees and suppliers the worst, and getting them to reform would force their competitors to do so as well.

I don’t know what the goals of the others who say critical things about Walmart are, but as for myself and my fellow bloggers at The Writing on the Wal what we want to see is a more responsible Walmart, not no Walmart.

Maybe so on your part, RDF, but RDS was right on his quoting a couple of well-knowns, here who have made no bones about their desire—the demise of Wal-Mart...period.

Smart Move, robertdfeinman!

Notice how quickly robertdfeinman distanced himself from you RDS?  Smart move on his part!

For anyone who still wants to make a case for the timing of Hillary Clinton’s stint on the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, or who would like readers to believe that neither of the Clinton’s had “bigger political aspirations” between 1986-1992, consider this:

***Hillary Clinton sat on Wal-Mart’s board from 1986-1992

***Hillary Clinton was a highly regarded lawyer at the Rose Law Firm, which had represented Wal-Mart in several cases.  Why was her presence on the Wal-Mart Board not considered to be a “conflict of interest?” Certainly Bill Clinton knew what was going on!

***Former President Bill Clinton, speaks frequently to Wal-Mart’s current chief executive, H. Lee Scott Jr., about issues like health care and even played host to Mr. Scott in a private dinner at the Clintons’ home in July 2006.

***There was some media speculation in 1987 that Clinton would enter the race for the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination.

So the question remains.  Who was using who more, in the “cozy” symbiotic relationship between the Clintons and Wal-Mart?

robertdfeinman,

“You certainly twisted my meaning!”

I didn’t mean to make it sound that way, but, I was just adding to the example you had used!!

“If you think that the reason that Walmart remains non-union is due to the wishes of employees you are totally mistaken.”

That is not what I said, what I said, was that even if the employees didn’t want to join the union, the anti people here, wouldn’t believe it!!

“Polls indicate that 60% of workers would join a union if they had the opportunity.”

This may be true, but there are 2 problems with this:

1.) The turnover is so high, that by the time a vote would come, probably 50% of that 60% would have left the company, and

2.) Many of Wal-Mart’s employees, aren’t there for a long term career, ie: High School students, College students and eldery people, who may not care whether the company has a union or not!!

“as for myself and my fellow bloggers at The Writing on the Wal what we want to see is a more responsible Walmart, not no Walmart.”

We know this and that is why your posts are respected by most of the people on both sides of the issues!!  When a person, goes into looking at something with an ‘open mind’ and a clear respect for the ‘facts’, like them or not, rational debate will follow, but when a person goes into something with a pre-conceived mindset, he will only see the side he wants to see, I’m glad that you, for the most part, are ‘open minded’ enough to ponder both sides!!

“In case you don’t remember why Walmart is the focus, it is because they are the biggest, they treat employees and suppliers the worst, and getting them to reform would force their competitors to do so as well.”

First, I have to disagree with you on this point, they do not treat their employees and suppliers the worst, my grandson, worked at both Target and Wal-Mart and in his opinion, Target was worse than Wal-Mart, they paid less, and had less benefits!!  Next, to assume that the competitors would follow may not be true, because if they wanted to, like Costco, they could do so NOW and gain an advantage over Wal-Mart!!  Also, it is easier to deal with the smaller tasks first, so, a group like a union, would have an easier time organizing a smaller workforce and therefore ‘force’ Wal-Mart to either catch up or fall behind the others!!  Competition involves being the FIRST to do something ‘new’, not waiting for someone else to be the FIRST!!

RDS ,YOU SURE YOUR GRANDSON ISN’T ONE OF THOSE WHINNING CRYBABYS LIKE YOU CALL ALL THE OTHER WORKERS AT THOSE RETAIL STORES.

RDS:
Your points 1 and 2 are straight out of the anti-union Walmart play book. The skill of the anti-union professionals is to put out messages which sound plausible so that even those who might not object to unions in principle are disarmed.

If Walmart treated its employees decently, then maybe their wouldn’t be a high turn over, and maybe others besides who are not looking for a “longterm career” might consider working there as well.

Your own example of Costco shows this to be true. The chain has much lower staff turnover than its competitors and also has higher employee productivity.

The Walton family’s dislike of unions is not based upon any sound economic policy, its just a visceral reaction against anyone who might challenge their desire for total control. It’s about power not economics.

As I’ve said before, they can get away with shooting themselves in the foot because they have a controlling interest in the company.

Perhaps you don’t think going after the biggest firm fist is the best approach, if so take it up with Andy Stern. I should add that while the pressure continues on Walmart the labor movement is not standing still, they are making gains elsewhere.

You don’t hear about them because the press doesn’t report on union successes (or even standard labor news). The last newspaper to have a full-time labor reporter got rid of the position last year.

Robert

“Your points 1 and 2 are straight out of the anti-union Walmart play book”

And why do think this is? Could it be that Wal-Mart supplies him with arguments to make?

The fact is, RDS aka. Bob is a paid SHILL for the Wal-Mart! It’s that simple.

robertdfeinman,

“Your points 1 and 2 are straight out of the anti-union Walmart play book.”

And, they are in that playbook, because they are real and work!!  I have said before, that I am not anti-union or anti-labor, just anti the huge powerful unions!!  This is because they tend to want to push a company around and seek outrageous demands!!  They do this based on an adversarial model, the US against THEM concept, which causes constant fighting, instead of co-operation!!  This is the main reason, that Wal-Mart and most other companies resist unionization!!  Large unions tend to focus mainly on obtaining more and more each year for their members, regardless of the company’s financial health!!

You seem to be able to understand how an economy works and the relationship of wages to cost of living (the higher the wages in an area, the higher the cost of living) and you can also see the problems that are caused when cost of living exceeds the ability of ‘lower income’ and ‘fixed income’ people to exist there and they are forced to move to slum types of areas!!  One only has to look at the current housing problems, the higher wage areas have the highest problems and the lower wage areas have little to no problem!! And, the problems will not be alieviated by raising ‘low wages’, this will only add to the problem, unless higher wage earners remain stagnant until the others catch up and wages become more equalized!!

“You don’t hear about them because the press doesn’t report on union successes”

That is also, because most union successes are based on co-operative contracts and don’t involve ‘strikes’ or ‘labor disruptions’ which make the headlines!!  Unions work best when they work in a co-operative manner!!

Big D,

“The fact is, RDS aka. Bob is a paid SHILL for the Wal-Mart! It’s that simple.”

And, then that makes you a PAID union SHILL, right?  Grow a brain and try to debate, using a good argument, instead of calling people names!!

RDS:
Please cite some examples of the all powerful unions. Unions cover about 8% of the private work force, where are they throwing their weight around?

Have you noticed the huge layoffs and givebacks by the UAW over the past decade? Is that the kind of power you mean?

I’ve got news for you Jimmy Hoffa is still dead and has been for a long time.

So which huge and powerful unions are we talking about here? I’ll wait…

...instead of calling people names!!

IMO, name-calling is a person’s last resort.

Glad to see you got the best of him, RDS :-)

I’m not anti walmart ,just the big ones.

robertdfeinman,

“Please cite some examples of the all powerful unions. Unions cover about 8% of the private work force, where are they throwing their weight around?”

It makes little difference that unions cover only about 8% of the private work force, to a company with a ‘closed shop’, the union holds power over 100% of that company, they could put that business ‘out of business’ if they chose to!!  That’s POWER!!

Now, you answer these questions:  The unions started back in the 1920’s, how come in over 80 years, they now ONLY have about 8% of the private workforce?  In 1979, it was 21%, why the big drop?

“Have you noticed the huge layoffs and givebacks by the UAW over the past decade?”

This is the end result to any ‘big’ union, for past sins!!  Once you push a company to the edge of bankruptcy, you end up having to have ‘givebacks and layoffs’, just to keep the business afloat and retain some of the jobs!!  In essence, the ‘chickens have come home to roost’ for the UAW!!  Notice how the non-union automakers are dominating the market now, wonder why that is?  (Oh, I forgot, it is ‘bad’ management in the unionized companies), I wonder why it is that the non-union plants don’t have ‘bad’ management?  Unions served a ‘good’ purpose at one time, eliminating a lot of abuses to labor, but, have since become a detriment to workers and companies trying to compete in the ‘global’ market, because they went too far!!  In the last 30 years, what major impacts have unions had on the situations of private sector labor?

Hillary, Obama, McCain, Romney… you can argue about who’s the best until election day but the good news is..

In 352 days Bush will be history! And he takes that slimeball Cheney with him!

“In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.” ~ H.L. Mencken

Hoe many other family members of your work for wm,I knew you had a hidden agenda.

Thats HOW

Did anybody happen to catch Anne Coulter’s appearance on Neil Cavuto late last week? She said she would back Hillary Clinton if John McCain wins the Republican national nomination!(I’m NOT making this up.) And then,she proceeds to rant and rave about the similarities between the voting record of McCain and Clinton. Folks,just when you think it can’t get more like the Twilight Zone,here comes la Coultergeist from her crypt!The interview,in it’s entirety can be seen on You Tube,or Crooks and Liars website. ( I wonder how well Manne’s books sell at WalMart?)

RDS:
You need to study your labor history. Unions started way before the 1920’s. If you are just interested in the US, the first big push was in the 1880’s.

You argue that unions did good, but then caused firms to fail because they became too powerful. How do you explain that the elimination of unions by US Steel starting around 1900 after it had taken over from Carnegie (who was unionized) just when the steel industry was growing the fastest and was most profitable?

Your ideology is so strong that it blinds you to current reality as well as history. If this makes you feel better having a scapegoat, good for you. Meanwhile things are getting worse for American workers and some of them are even starting to notice.

Why are 60% of workers interested in joining a union if it is such a bad idea? How come the EU economy is doing fine with a much higher rate of unionization?

Don’t bother replying, I’m bored. You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.

rdf: This may or may not be of interest to you,as you may have already read it, but I just posted the entire Huffington Post article entitled “Republican Class Warfare”,by Joseph Palermo,on the WMW thread above entitled,"Video on WalMart’s Union Busting,Discrimination Tactics.” The quotes from economist Robert Kuttner’s new book are extremely interesting,IMHO, and fit perfectly with the issues being discussed at hand. (Hope no one mistakes rdf for RDS, the initials are so similar.)

It’s Pretty Hard to Confuse RDS With Anyone Else, ddrb!

Ever since Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf died and John the Stutterer moved on, Howard Stern might still have some room on his “Wack Pack.”

I nominate RDS.

You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Hard to argue with that.

robertdfeinman,

“Unions started way before the 1920’s. If you are just interested in the US, the first big push was in the 1880’s.”

So, it was over 120 years, so that makes it even worse!!

“How do you explain that the elimination of unions by US Steel starting around 1900 after it had taken over from Carnegie (who was unionized) just when the steel industry was growing the fastest and was most profitable?”

That is because the unions were in their infant stages and were not making outrageous demands, the steel companies were growing because of the industrial revolution and the high demand for steel!!  The fact that the union was eliminated shows that the company probably foresaw the future!!

“Your ideology is so strong that it blinds you to current reality as well as history.”

And, your ideology does the same to you!!  Sometimes, people are blinded from the real outcomes of events, because of “Political Correctness”, it’s not easy to take the unpopular side of an issue, whether the ‘facts’ are on your side or not!!  If you are dealing with working people, is easy to bash rich people and industry as being ‘evil’ and therefore the ‘root’ of all their problems and to show that you support the same ideals that the working class does, like support for unions and being anti-business, wins favor with them, true or not!!  But, as they say, “The proof is in the pudding”, if unions are so popular, why is membership declining, shouldn’t it have soared over the past 120 years?

“Why are 60% of workers interested in joining a union if it is such a bad idea?”

If 60% of Wal-Mart’s employees really want a union, it is easy for them to get one, here’s how:

1.) Have a group of employees ask for union representation,
2.) Have those 60% sign cards,
3.) Have 51% ‘vote’ YES during the election!! (With 60% for it, that should be no problem)!!

Simple isn’t it!!  What you really have, is 60% of the people agree with the WISH for higher wages and better benefits, but really wouldn’t be willing to put an effort into going after union membership!!

“How come the EU economy is doing fine with a much higher rate of unionization?”

How many common workers are making the equivalent of $65.00 an hour (wages and benefits) in the EU?  What does the average ‘retail worker’ in the EU make?

“You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.”

Tell that to the others here, because ‘facts’ can be manipulated, by popular opinion!!  Example: Take someone who drinks liquor, if you asked them if drinking is ‘bad’, they would disagree with you, even if the facts of accidents, divorces, fights, law violations and crime are presented to them!! The same applies to people who use drugs!!  It is very easy to claim, that the ‘other side’ is WRONG and is to blame and ‘make up’ facts to back it up!!

The Proof Is In the Postings!

“it’s not easy to take the unpopular side of an issue, whether the ‘facts’ are on your side or not!!” ~RDS

But somehow you always manage to do it, RDS...whether the “facts are on your side or not.” I just call that STUPID!

Screwedby,

In YOUR opinion and perception!!  Manipulated ‘facts’ are not ‘facts’ at all in reality!!

What’s Your Definition of “Reality,” RDS?

“ ‘facts’ are not ‘facts’ at all in reality!!”

Yeah, but your definition of “reality” is anyone’s guess.

<i>“You’re traveling through another dimension—a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That’s a signpost up ahead: YOUR next stop: the Twilight Zone!

Screwedby: A journey to a wondrous land sounds far more enticing than a trip to NW Arkansa,IMHO, and in others’ opinion also ,it seems. To wit-travel over to the thread entitled “Misconceptions from Lee Scott’s Speech”,page 4 of blogroll,last two entries.

Screwedby,

“That’s a signpost up ahead: YOUR next stop: the Twilight Zone”

Then, I stop and turn around, I don’t care to enter YOUR dimension!!  The signpost also reads: Home of Tom Boese!!

Still Trying, Huh?

Still trying to get on a first name basis here, Robert Springer of Springdale, Arkansas? (RDS) Your point would be what?

Bob, you should not try to “out” people on the web. What do you think Gloria would think about you doing that? BTW do you still live @ ??15 He??????? st. there in Springdale?

I would suggest that you stop and think REAL hard before you try to out people on this or any other site, you may get OUTED yourself, but good!

Big D,

First, I just made reference to Tom’s name, which HE HIMSELF used to post under and he and others have made reference to my name many times!!  I have never posted his girlfriend’s name, nor his address!!  He is only being given what he himself has gave!!

You are the one that is out of line here, just like JOE was!!  But, I guess I should expect NO LESS from you!!

BTW: I had no problem with what he said about me, until you stuck your Big N (nose) into it!!

RDS: Here’s hoping that you or yours have not been adversely affected by the deadly tornadoes early this A.M. ,that have wreaked so much havoc.(If I’m not mistaken,the tornadic activity would have been AFTER your 12:49 A.M. post.)